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This story is like the one about Chicken Licken going to tell the king that the sky is going to fall down and soon all of the annimals are going to tell the king that the sky is falling down.What do Cisco care about 2.4GHz? They produce network switches and routers not liitle boxes that we use in the corner of our houses.I do agree though that JR/Spektrum should issue a statement to clarify the situation and put an end to all this hearsay.Phil.
http://webapp.etsi.org/workProgram/Report_Schedule.asp?WKI_ID=27760Working Group approval due 15 October, Public Enquiry runs 24th December to 23rd April 2011, lots of other stuff..... goes to vote August 2011, votes counted 12th October 2011, Standard published 26th October 2011.Until then, it's speculation.
JR and Spektrum will not stop production as the ETSI regs has no effect on the US/Rest Of The World market, it's just us Europeans that suffer....
Which I think is exactly the case In point here I could doWith a new transmitter but i' not prepared to shell out in new equipment until we know where we stand. Watching with interestNasa
I totally agree and JR/Speki are doing themselves a marketing dis-service by keeping stum, I am allready looking at other options (FrSky modules etc)
They really don't seem to be getting the message though. It must be affecting people's buying decisions and the manufacturer/distributor could do a great deal to reduce that uncertainty by recognising the problem and stating what their plans are for dealing with it.
Not really much because most people don't know about it. If they were to go out of their way to tell everyone then they'd probably have a bigger problem. What if their plans for dealing with it (if they even have one) are to just abandon DSM2 or to keep selling the RXs for just another couple of years or anything else which business circumstances might dictate and which people might not like? They would just shoot themselves in the foot possibly over nothing at all.
I'm not in the least bit surprised that they aren't making statements like that on the basis of some highly speculative possible future change in legislation.
So, essentially it looks as if you're saying that if there is information that might prevent folks making buying decisions that might lock them into a dead end, and the manufacturer, being aware of that, chooses not to reveal that information, and does not comment on the steps that they would take to mitigate against that, then you're okay with that?I can't believe that to be the case Mark, so perhaps you are just stating that you are not surprised that they would not make an announcement, rather than actually supporting the not making an announcement. You're not supporting that though, right? You don't feel that the manufacturers actually owe some sort of clarification to their customers?
Correct.I had a DSMJ module that came with the pre-production 11X which naturally I had to open up It is the same hardware from what I could see.
Why do you say that ?
So, essentially it looks as if you're saying that if there is information that might prevent folks making buying decisions that might lock them into a dead end, and the manufacturer, being aware of that, chooses not to reveal that information, and does not comment on the steps that they would take to mitigate against that, then you're okay with that?
Actually, hasn't it been reported and the tests shown that the DSM2 system has a flaw, in that it can on boot up, choose its two frequencies so that they are right next to each other? This meaning that, if interference is in a small 'blanket' that covers the tiny bit of the spectrum that these 2 frequencies occupy, that the DSM2 system is then completley stuffed. It would appear that this can happen at any time, due to the DSM2 system randomly choosing its 2 frequencies out of any that are clear at the time of bootup and doesn't actually try to seperate them by a good margin. I would assume that the law of averages says that this wont happen very often, unless you are very unlucky of course.Now, I have only read this, I haven't tested it, but I have had ummm, issues in the past that were totally unexplainable. Its possible that you could use DSM2 for the rest of your life and never get this situation arise, but if its true, its also possible that this could happen any time you switch on. Anyone else know anything about it?
Actually, hasn't it been reported and the tests shown that the DSM2 system has a flaw, in that it can on boot up, choose its two frequencies so that they are right next to each other?
An output from a spectrum analyser was posted by Mpx which showed the two selected frequency bands 40Mhz apart.Steve
This thread is for discussion of the issue mentioned not a x is better than y slanging match
What I mean is that should DSMJ be acceptable and DSM2 be banned, then Horizon UK (being a subsid of Horizon Hobbies) will have access to the necessary tools to upgrade from DSM2 to DSMJ in house in the UK.As MacGregors isn't owned by HH or JR, then it is very unlikely that Horizon will give us the necessary and JR won't be allowed to give us the necessary. The NDA that was on the table was extremely limiting in what it would allow MacGregors to do in the 2.4 GHz market.Horizon cannot control what is used in Europe (although I am sure they would love to have that under their control).How this would pan out is unknown, perhaps an exchange ? I just don't know...
Ah, so Horizon could update the Spektrum equipment to DSMJ but JR could only sell new DSMJ equipment?