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6 Servo Glider and 6 Channel Tx
« on: August 08, 2017, 16:31:31 PM »
Afternoon All,

I've picked up a Pelikan Pike Electric V Tail Gilder, but my JR  X2610 handset is only a 6 channel. Is there anything I can do with the set up to maximise what I have?

Thanks Martin
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Re: 6 Servo Glider and 6 Channel Tx
« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2017, 17:13:19 PM »
Connect the motor ESC to the switch controled channel, use a "Y" lead (with reverser on one servo) for the flaps. Connect the flaps to the normal "motor" channel.
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Re: 6 Servo Glider and 6 Channel Tx
« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2017, 19:41:03 PM »
Good solution Patmac, that's exactly what I do when I fly my Multiplex Cularis with a Spectrum DX6i transmitter.
Unfortunately I wrote off my original Cularis and I'm now in the process of building a new one.
This time I will make sure I don't inadvertently put a park flyer receiver on board when going looking for and finding thermals!  :banghead:
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Re: 6 Servo Glider and 6 Channel Tx
« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2017, 20:28:51 PM »
Connect the motor ESC to the switch controled channel, use a "Y" lead (with reverser on one servo) for the flaps. Connect the flaps to the normal "motor" channel.

Thanks, daft question but how does that work with the controls? Does the switch then enable the motor on / off ?
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Re: 6 Servo Glider and 6 Channel Tx
« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2017, 20:36:49 PM »
Yes, all you doing is using the motor to climb to height to go gliding  :af so it's just like having an onboard Hi-Start/Bungee. On my electric gliders I have the motor control on a slider and crow braking on the stick.

Hate to say it, but if you keep buying gliders like this, you may soon be needed a radio upgrade.......................... :''


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Re: 6 Servo Glider and 6 Channel Tx
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2017, 20:50:01 PM »
Yes, all you doing is using the motor to climb to height to go gliding  :af so it's just like having an onboard Hi-Start/Bungee. On my electric gliders I have the motor control on a slider and crow braking on the stick.

Hate to say it, but if you keep buying gliders like this, you may soon be needed a radio upgrade.......................... :''

The 6 ch Tx has served me well for my hanger but I agree an upgrade is needed!
So my next question is how many channels do I need for my Pike? I want to have crow braking and maybe full camber?
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Re: 6 Servo Glider and 6 Channel Tx
« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2017, 22:06:08 PM »
The 6 ch Tx has served me well for my hanger but I agree an upgrade is needed!
So my next question is how many channels do I need for my Pike? I want to have crow braking and maybe full camber?

Minimum 7 channels, but check the radio does all the required mixes. I had a Futaba FF6 radio and when I needed 7 channels I went with a MPX Cockpit Sx (35mhz) which led to me buying a full house glider as I could then do the aileron-flap mix, full camber and crow braking  :D


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Re: 6 Servo Glider and 6 Channel Tx
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2017, 16:13:22 PM »
Update:
With my 'fleabay find' a JR X-378 handset I have got 2 x flights on the Pike with flaps or crow braking as options for landing and all is well!

The handset has a full span aileron option to move the aileron and the flap together, however when I play about with this I can't get the flap to move in sync. with the aileron, altering the % mix value only results in the flap being too shy or too proud.
Any ideas?


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Re: 6 Servo Glider and 6 Channel Tx
« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2017, 17:33:38 PM »
My solution when I had your problem was to put the model together in the back garden and spend a sunny afternoon sitting in the sun trying out various settings until I had it cracked - and you need a beer alongside as well!  It worked for me!  ;D ;D ;D

Regarding the number of channels, I originally had 8 + 1 channels on my Robbe Futaba FC18 but when I went for large scale gliders, I found that I needed more, so I bought a Futaba 14SG and now I've used up all of those on my latest model, an ASH 25Mi. I could really have done with the 18 channel jobbie, but another 400+ for 4 extra channels didn't compute for me so I had to be creative with combining channels.

I have ailerons, speed flaps and brake flaps and I can switch those in progressively via a three position switch and can go from just outer aileron to full span movement - it looks quite good on a 23 feet wingspan model!

For landing I have put the airbrakes, crow setting and brake flaps on the throttle stick and that allows me on a high approach to hang everything out, put the nose down and it's rock steady on the way down terminating with a nice flare at the bottom.  :af

Have fun setting up your model, it'll be worth it!
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