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    « Reply #30 on: October 11, 2007, 15:09:25 PM »
    Those of you who are putting one of these together and are considering larger engines than suggested (2 x 91 four strokes).
    Please bear this in mind, the prototype was flown on two RCV 91CD's final weight 22lb, one recently test flown in the States powered by two RCV90SP's final weight 22.5lb. You are not allowed to view links.
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    It does not need much more power than this, if at all, bigger engines add more weight and the extra weight is not in the ideal position on this warbird(should be as far forward as possible).
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    « Reply #31 on: October 11, 2007, 15:20:07 PM »
    Quote from: pylon on October 07, 2007, 22:10:33 PM
    Will inspect mine and get back to you.
    Cheers Richard.

    wel, and the results of the inspection?

    Shame really, gone off glows totally and would only consider petrols so guess this project's out now...
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    « Reply #32 on: October 11, 2007, 18:06:08 PM »
    martin is right, but, in all fairness, i would not rule out the zenoah 20 lekky ignition,   could be made for the thing
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    « Reply #33 on: October 11, 2007, 22:49:32 PM »
    Here's how the ZG20 should look like, head on:
    http://www.rc-flight.com/catalog/images/Photos/IMG_4437x.JPG
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    Some pieces goes out:
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    Engine mount and bolts, carb insulation block and choke extension

    and some go in instead:
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    Carb intake bend

    This will reduce the engine's width on that side from 106 mm to only 73 mm.
    Now the engine will fit almost completely inside the TigerCats cowling. Only the exhaust and the ignition plug cap will have to go outside.

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    « Reply #34 on: October 11, 2007, 23:32:08 PM »
    i didnt know they had a carb bend,  wheres it avilable from?
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    « Reply #35 on: October 12, 2007, 01:21:06 AM »
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    « Reply #36 on: October 13, 2007, 20:01:02 PM »
    Well, I still think I shall be putting 2x Zenoah 20 in mine. I do not think the extra weight will be a problem. I do like that snazzy z bend!!!   It will be intresting to see how the two engine configurations compare in overall weight and flight performance.  Game on!  Whistle   Richard.
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    « Reply #37 on: October 13, 2007, 21:51:49 PM »
    Hi Rich, I was speaking to Phil, one of the swiss resellers on Friday and he's fitted 2x 170 triples in the cat without cutting the cowls. Still tempted?  Evil

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    « Reply #38 on: October 13, 2007, 22:01:35 PM »
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    « Reply #39 on: October 14, 2007, 20:03:16 PM »
    Quote from: Syms on October 13, 2007, 21:51:49 PM
    Hi Rich, I was speaking to Phil, one of the swiss resellers on Friday and he's fitted 2x 170 triples in the cat without cutting the cowls. Still tempted?  Evil

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    « Reply #40 on: October 18, 2007, 13:52:38 PM »
    any you lot out there know if the tiggy cat had fabric covered rudder/elevators.....or were they skinned with Ali?......before i start with this kit need to do some research.....looked on the net...found some picky's but not that clear......

    reading some of the other reports on this build.....the supplied maybe slighty heavy?......making them from balsa/solatex will be lighter......if that were the case..

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    « Reply #41 on: October 18, 2007, 15:47:20 PM »
    Looks like aluminium in this picture: You are not allowed to view links.
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    « Reply #42 on: October 18, 2007, 15:50:50 PM »
    does look that way i must admit......
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    « Reply #43 on: October 18, 2007, 15:54:46 PM »
    Sorry Dave, two of my ref books are in Polish and the "In Action" book doesn't mention it, it doesn't look like fabric in the pics but as they are small it's difficult to say

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    « Reply #44 on: October 18, 2007, 16:07:38 PM »
    thanks for looking steve....phil might know.....where are you phil Whistle
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    « Reply #45 on: October 19, 2007, 13:00:44 PM »
    On the only full scale I've seen it was aluminium.
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    « Reply #46 on: October 19, 2007, 13:05:38 PM »
    thanks....selleri.....i won't change it then...build it as it comes out of the box...only with hidden linkage ::cc
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    « Reply #47 on: October 19, 2007, 13:57:17 PM »
    now phil says fabric........oh dear here we go......anyone else :cig

    maybe it's an excuse to go too DX tomorrow
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    « Reply #48 on: October 19, 2007, 14:34:26 PM »
    lol, I wouldn't bet any money against Phil but could it be related to what mark of plane you have? 

    Early Thunderbolts had fabric covered control surfaces but later had aluminium.

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    maybe it's an excuse to go too DX tomorrow

    I think you are some months too late for that...   last I saw of that cat it was heading west after take off from BIRK.
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    « Reply #49 on: October 19, 2007, 14:59:01 PM »
    blast......i knew a cat had left........never mind.....maybe find some info books etc
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    « Reply #50 on: October 19, 2007, 15:04:40 PM »
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    « Reply #51 on: October 21, 2007, 21:56:32 PM »
    Just been on the rc universe forum on F-7F tigercat page 21 and seen the saito 170's in the cowls!!  It also appears that all the models flown so far come out at similar weight, whether using Rcv 91's or Zenoah 26. If you have to have loads of lead upfront you might as well have engine weight etc. I think I will go the Radial route now. She will sound ace ::cc
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    « Reply #52 on: October 21, 2007, 22:21:30 PM »
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    « Reply #53 on: October 22, 2007, 16:55:19 PM »
    Have I misread the building instructions, or are the gear doors (mains) not functional, and that you are supposed to hack some appropriate opening to let the oleo and wheel pass through?

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    « Reply #54 on: October 23, 2007, 23:31:25 PM »
    Quote from: thescaleman on October 18, 2007, 13:52:38 PM
    any you lot out there know if the tiggy cat had fabric covered rudder/elevators.....or were they skinned with Ali?......before i start with this kit need to do some research.....looked on the net...found some picky's but not that clear......

    reading some of the other reports on this build.....the supplied maybe slighty heavy?......making them from balsa/solatex will be lighter......if that were the case..

    cheers

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    « Reply #55 on: October 24, 2007, 00:07:20 AM »
    Quote from: kinverflyer on October 11, 2007, 15:09:25 PM
    Those of you who are putting one of these together and are considering larger engines than suggested (2 x 91 four strokes).
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    It does not need much more power than this, if at all, bigger engines add more weight and the extra weight is not in the ideal position on this warbird(should be as far forward as possible).

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    More food for thought: here is a pic of a KMP Tigercat, equipped with two Zenoa G-26s. Model can be found on RC Universe, has completed two successful flights. Recently replaced the G-26 powerplant in my Balsa USA 1/4 scale Fokker D-VIII with a tired Enya 120FS   Whistle result-the Enya flew the D-VIII very well. IMHO, the G-26s definately will not overpower the KMP Tigercat!
    BTW, same engines mounted in the KMP Bearcat have only the plug wire emerging in the bottom cooling opening.
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    « Reply #56 on: October 25, 2007, 23:04:24 PM »
    Going back to original intention, putting Zenoah 20's back in!!!  Just bought another plane!!!!  Whistle more expence     also got reservations about fitment of R170's within cowls and relibility,  compared to Zenoah's. Plus 2x R170 is £1100.00!!!!  Spoke to Glen models thinks the Zenoah 20's would be a better bet than 26's.  Start building next week. ::cc    Richard.
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    « Reply #57 on: October 26, 2007, 06:34:58 AM »
    NOW  what have you brought  :laugh:
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    Quote from: greyfly on October 26, 2007, 06:34:58 AM
    NOW  what have you brought  :laugh:

    HuhHuh?? Whistle Whistle Whistle Whistle Whistle Whistle    Richard.
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    Look at That!!!! Got to crack on now!
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