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[nasa_steve]

very tempted by this one what scale is the robin incidentally 1/3rd???
regards
nasa

[kinverflyer]

Steve
You had better be quick, they are stunning, this one is powered by a Laser 180. Currently being flown in Northern Ireland

[DB P7966]

One finished Model.

Details.

ZDZ 50cc with 20 x 8 Menz Prop
9 x Servos
SM Batt Packer
2 x 6v Rx Batts
1 x Ing Batt
2.4 Ghz Rx

All up weight 20lbs

Requires exhaust to be made by Just Engines and then test flight

[kinverflyer]

One finished Model.

Details.

ZDZ 50cc with 20 x 8 Menz Prop
9 x Servos
SM Batt Packer
2 x 6v Rx Batts
1 x Ing Batt
2.4 Ghz Rx

All up weight 20lbs

Requires exhaust to be made by Just Engines and then test flight

Requires two things and exhaust and a pilot, stunning looking plane.

[nasa_steve]

hi guy's i did ask earlier but noone answered what scale is the robin ???anybody ??
nasa

[shogun]

Steve

It's close to 1/4 scale, the full size being 27' 4" (328-inches).

Stewart

[nasa_steve]

cheers shogun just what i needed
regards
nasa   

[nasa_steve]

one more question then i'll get me coat i take it from your reply kinver that these robins maybe going off production is that right or are you just running out of UK stock??
regards
steve

[alan c]

the robin will be back in stock,    there is a delivery due in jan/ feb, colour blue,

[apache]

Hi Steve,

 In Australia we have been told by the importers about the new ones coming next year but not sure of date

Apache

[apache]

g'day DB,

Would sure like to see how you did the front wheel assembly when you have time

Cheers Apache

[DB P7966]

Hi Apache,

Sorry, forgot you asked earlier.  I will strip down wheel assembly tonight and take some pics.

Regards

DB

[nasa_steve]

hi apache
   i'm in the UK hence why i asked about uk stock. your ausy ones would come direct i'd imagine
regards
nasa

[Neilly]

Hi All,

DB, does the Robin nose wheel assembly look similar to that of the Cirrus?

Robin 2160 Build Thread

TTFN,
Neil

[DB P7966]

Hi Neil,

Yes me old son.

I was geting a pic of the assembly ready to put on.
Regds

DB

[DB P7966]

Firstly can I ask why some of the threads are being removed

Hi Ian,  Sorry mate will not be attending, I have built 4 planes in the last two months and I really need to sort out my work shed.

Shall be starting on the F190 tomorrow once Ive cleaned up.

Amyway back to the Robin. ::cc

Pics of the wheel Assembly, hope they are what you wanted.   If not let me know as I still have it apart.

Regards

DB

[DB P7966]

The pics

[Neilly]

Hi DB,

Slightly different than the Cirrus. Is the steel rod that goes in the top of the machined ali centre part? If there is you could have problems. I keep bending mine & not through heavy landings. Slight ruts in the ground & it just bends & bear in mind the Cirrus is only 12.75 lbs. & the Robin is a lot heavier. The first landing I did I managed to drop the nose wheel straight into a rut, which twisted the nose wheel under the fuz (fortunately I was flying without the cowl on, so no other damage apart from stress cracks in the rear fuz). Another flight the grub screws came loose & the wheel spat turned, but didn't cause a problem on landing - just no steerage. The other problem I've had is the wheel spat itself - needs to be higher because it clobbers the ground if the nose wheel goes into a rut & basically springs the aircrafts nose into the air - no laughing matter when this happens just as the model is about to rotate & kangaroos into the air!

So, the remedies - drill out & re-tap the grub screw holes, in the aluminium shaft, so you can fit larger grub screws. Looks like the steel rod is probably shorter on the Robin than on the Cirrus so you might get away with it. Raise the height of the nose wheel spat. It might not be scale, but it'll save you repeated repairs on the wheel spat.

As I've said before - if the Robin flies half as good as the Cirrus, you'll be really pleased. I'm having a new complete nose wheel leg being machined, which should stop the above problems. If you do have a problem with the nose wheel leg let me know & I'll have words with my mate.

TTFN,
Neil

[DB P7966]

Hi Neil,

Thanks for that.  Once I have the exhaust made, I can then weight the plane and see how much weight is sitting on the nose wheel.

Cheers

DB

[alan c]

IT WASNT REMOVAL, it was housework,     too much donkeying around in the swear word checker,   better now, isnt it?

[DB P7966]

NO,  it was also humor.

There was nothing offensive to any one or thing. A bit of fun. 

If it gets as bad as this, might as well sign off.

[alan c]

ONLY DOING MY JOB WAYNE,   sorry pal,    but i had an IM about what is a donkey,  so thought a sort out was in order,   its not your fault, its an over sensitive word checker,  this section of the forum is looked at from all over the world, its important to me for those lookers to get an accurate fix on what is a good thread about the robin,        helps sales, helps the company look more professional,      this, and several other messages, will self destruct in 24 hours

[apache]

Hi DB,

Thanks for the photos, helps a lot. If you could I would like to see how the shaft that goes into the strut and up into the nose gear mount looks. The one I've got appears to be to short, in the manual it shows a collar top and bottom of the mount, mine is not long enough to allow this. Niel's input has been very informative also.  Good luck with the model it looks a winner, guess we will hear how it flies.

Cheers Apache

[DB P7966]

Allan,  If you read the threads as they came out and my explanation of how they did, it only made you chuckle for a bit.  This would not make this web site or the Company un professional.

If you are worried about how the thread looks then when you read Ian's, it makes it look as though Ian is calling me a Donkey.  And I know Ian would never do that to me, would you Ian

We British have to keep a stiff upper lip. As they say.

[alan c]

oops,  missed that one,   not any more it doesnt 

keep up the good work Wayne,  Its apreciated

[DB P7966]

Hi Apache,

See if these are any good to you.  I shall dig my Manual out and try and see what it looks like in there.
Anyway, let me know mate.

DB

[DB P7966]

Hi Apache,

Looking at page 6 and 7, it does show two formers. This is not the case regarding supplied hardware.

You should have a solid peace as in the one in my photo.
The steering arm fits between top and bottom and the shaft which is about two in long goes through and it then leaves you with about 10mm for the leg to fit on.

Hope this helps.  Let me know

DB

[Neilly]

Hi DB,

That nose wheel leg looks far superior to that of the Cirrus. I would still get rid of those small grub screws & go for something a bit bigger - 3mm perhaps, so you can nip 'em up real tight.

TTFN,
Neil

[apache]

Hi DB,

Yes it is the same as I have, except the arm has only one side to it, I was going to use a steel wire rod direct to an extra servo for it. I was thinking of using a longer piece of steel to go through the mount so I could put a collar on the top, may help it from working loose and falling off. Niel's idea of putting larger grub screws in might also be the go. These have been great photos.

Happy New Year    Apache

[DB P7966]

Glad to be of service.

All the best
DB