Topic: Dwarf Patrol - Dawn's little brothers and sisters

I knew that would work you lovely man !! I was referring, of course, to Steve (Tap) Tappington and Ken (The Claw) Clawbrook .... President and Vice President of the USD .... The 'Unreasonably Small Deckchair' Society, Keep up the good work you stalwart you........ Kamikaze Jim

Thanks for that post BoyBrewer...... I see someone from our very LMA has already modelled a 1/4 scale one, has anyone seen it fly Jim

There was a bloody huge one built by a guy in the LMA some time back. Ken

back to the PV8... i have this excellent 1/10th scale plan to work from..... courtesy of john sizer, sams and a tenner...

but ain't this one cute though... it's even smaller than the PV8, ans is the one and only PV7, the grain kitten...

both the kittens, in model form but same scale...

Stuey Bristol scout is a small plane. at 1/2 scale it is smaller than my bristol fighter at 3rd. at 1/2 scale the scout has 11 ft ws and 9 ft fuse. so drop that to 3rd scale and it would be easy transport especially since the  wings are 3 peice. I was going to do it until I got commissioned to do this 1/2 scale pfalz fighter so the scouts on back burner for now. BTW 1/2 scale sout has a 26" cowl ))))

This manic headlong dash for smaller and smaller 1/3rd ww1 A/C puts me in mind of that classic ode "AN ODE TO A FLOH"               Little fleas have smaller fleas upon their backs to bite em.And smaller fleas have smaller fleas, so on ad infinitum. So good people we arrive at the smallest WW1 A/C up till now the winner being the Sopwith Bee. Unless, unless of course somewhere lurking in the archives there is one we dont know about YET. My choice is the British flying bomb, but I do know the Germans were mucking about with mini gliders round about then.Storage doesent seem to be a problem, Putting them on the mantlepiece in the living room seems the best bet. :laugh: Ken  ;copper;

This manic headlong dash for smaller and smaller 1/3rd ww1 A/C puts me in mind of that classic ode "AN ODE TO A FLOH"               Little fleas have smaller fleas upon their backs to bite em.And smaller fleas have smaller fleas, so on ad infinitum. So good people we arrive at the smallest WW1 A/C up till now the winner being the Sopwith Bee. Unless, unless of course somewhere lurking in the archives there is one we dont know about YET. My choice is the British flying bomb, but I do know the Germans were mucking about with mini gliders round about then.Storage doesent seem to be a problem, Putting them on the mantlepiece in the living room seems the best bet. :laugh: Ken  ;copper;

..but. where is the evidence that the bee flew during WW1.... in the absence of that, then the PV7 is our smallest.. 

Stuey Bristol scout is a small plane. at 1/2 scale it is smaller than my bristol fighter at 3rd. at 1/2 scale the scout has 11 ft ws and 9 ft fuse. so drop that to 3rd scale and it would be easy transport especially since the  wings are 3 peice. I was going to do it until I got commissioned to do this 1/2 scale pfalz fighter so the scouts on back burner for now. BTW 1/2 scale sout has a 26" cowl ))))

My 1/3rd scale is still at the cutting ribs stage but it will be done one day.  What happened to the thread ref 1/3 scale radial cowled being produced?

26" dia cowl eh!!   now there,s a challenge   

  cj

My 1/3rd scale is still at the cutting ribs stage but it will be done one day.  What happened to the thread ref 1/3 scale radial cowled being produced?

nice though it is, it will still be 98" when done and a little big for the dwarf patrol methinks..

88" maximum wingspan is my self-assumed maximum...  Didn't say how many wings tall though did i! 

After discussing the DP thing I decided my Scout will be for me, no show stuff I'm not interested but would be nice to take to warbird meets.  Like you say Stuey a bit big bit I don't plan on it being my hack being taken to the field (wherever that will be in the future  ) every weekend.

Here you go Stuey



A Martin Kitten, note the retracting u/c

And the Floh



Steve

Thats AWSOME  I'd just love to see on of those farting around the sky   

Thats AWSOME  I'd just love to see on of those farting around the sky   

The floh is my next buildd after the Kitten, so hands' off you people... 

that Martin Kitten, i believe, was a 1919 development. It seems strange that the Eastchurch Kitten was lost in shipment to the US and then Martin bring out a similar model the very next year.  named the KITTEN

Love the ailerons... 

The Martin Kitten is a US design

Do you have the datafiles?  

Steve

The Martin Kitten is a US design

Do you have the datafiles?  

Steve

  no...

The Martin Kitten is a US design

That was my point, we ship our kitten over to the US, it get's lost, Martin brings out their US Kitten a year later...

That was my point, we ship our kitten over to the US, it get's lost, Martin brings out their US Kitten a year later...

Amazing eh 

I'll sort out the files

Steve

This is mad, and did fly in WW1... And that's 4 metres full size.. 

Rate of Climb: 1000 metres in 1/4 hr.
Span: 4 meres.
Total length: 3.8 metres.
Over all height: 2.4 metres.
Weight in flying trim including pilot: 230 kilos.
petrol consumption per flying hr: 2 gallons.

This mad, and did fly in WW1... And that's 4 metres full size.. 

Rate of Climb: 1000 metres in 1/4 hr.
Span: 4 meres.
Total length: 3.8 metres.
Over all height: 2.4 metres.
Weight in flying trim including pilot: 230 kilos.
petrol consumption per flying hr: 2 gallons.

So am I right in saying a full third scaler would measure...... 52" wingspan, 50" length and 32" height?

 

Given a third scale pilot will be  (are Italians generically smaller ) 22" tall this has got to be a laugh.....

Hope to be building something from July 2009...

. It seems strange that the Eastchurch Kitten was lost in shipment to the US and then Martin bring out a similar model the very next year.  named the KITTEN

Love the ailerons... 

Been contacted by the grandson of a gentleman who actually worked on the Eastchurch Kitten whilst it was at Kent. He sent me this picture taken by his grandfather......

Are you going to draw up plans and build one?

Are you going to draw up plans and build one?

 
Steve

Are you going to draw up plans and build one?

I already have the plans drawn at 1/3rd scale..... It's the "and build one" part that's difficult!

I know what you mean I have very little drive at teh moment although have been thinking about a Miles M20, 2WW warbird and no retracts 

I already have the plans drawn at 1/3rd scale..... It's the "and build one" part that's difficult!

Will the Triplane beat the Floa and the Kitten then Stuey?   

Alan