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Offline Vulcan Bomber wrote . on July 18, 2009, 17:54:50 PM
Last Edit: October 28, 2009, 21:30:02 PM by Vulcan Bomber
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Reply #1
Offline Winchweight wrote Re: Cosford 2009 Question on July 18, 2009, 17:56:46 PM
Just got home. It was great!  :colm:

The highlights?

THE VULCAN!!!  :uk:

And the flypast by the Miles Magister (full size) with the 1/2 scale model next to it. Very cool  :af

A400M - Grizzly!

Reply #2
Offline Walts wrote Re: Cosford 2009 Question on July 18, 2009, 18:43:10 PM
 

Will it be worth going tomorrow ?
VB

I hope so!........As a mate phoned me out the blue thismorning and asked if I fancied keeping him company on the long drive up there, so It looks like I'll be going after all!........alarm clock is set for 4am :o :)


Reply #3
Offline Neilly wrote Re: Cosford 2009 Question on July 18, 2009, 21:02:57 PM
Hi Walts,

Hope you give us a shout & say hello. Can't miss me - I'm the tall git with the big camera getting in everyones way :embarassed: :nananana:

TTFN,
Neil

Neilly's Flickr Page. All pictures are available as large prints or canvas.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/60833437@N08/

Reply #4
alan c wrote Re: Cosford 2009 Question on July 18, 2009, 21:16:47 PM
awsome day,    met loads of forumites--unlike weston,    good mix of flying,   few gaps,  Vulcan was AWSOME,   nice formation from airliners through the ages,   dawn patrol did well in the wind    couldnt open the show though, SO WE DID   kings cup team stepped up,     later DP did tapp proud, but one of the pups went in hard,    looked salvagable, but badly damaged,   jez mended worse with his though,     big all metal beaver, that sounded awsome, was an early casualty,   dont know what happened, but a wing was bent,        they where the only 2 casualties,   not bad at all really,  show as a nice, laid back day,  PLENTY pf trade, and some cracking grub joints--trying the lincoshire sausage factory tomorow :P :P

old warden sent up a trio of vintage planes,   bucker bestman, krick bent wing thingy, and the magister,  the latter proceeded to fly in formation with its half scale model version    looked superb,   all done with adequate separation,        no vulcan sunday,  but calmer weather,    wind forcast down the runway,  so everything should get off the floor,    the pilots did well today,  the wind away from the trade was high,   bearing in mind the expense invloved with the models, i take my hat off to them,         looking forward to sunday,  the atmospheres great,         come and say hello on the YT stand, and see what cash bargains we have on selected stock :)  some to big to transport, and will have to posted!!!


Reply #5
Offline SWM wrote Re: Cosford 2009 Question on July 18, 2009, 21:27:36 PM
Sunday 2006 was great
Sunday 2007 was a washout but at least LMA didn't charge entry fee
Sunday 2008 - got charged an entrance fee but because of strong winds which were 90 degrees crosswind,  a large number of the planes had gone or weren't  flying

Sunday 2009.  - forecast is 14 degrees,  and showers.   

Will it be worth going tomorrow ?
VB

I made it to Cosford last year as a 'Punter' and really enjoyed it. I hope every one has had a good time.

The weather wasnt great here in the North today, I went to spend some money at SWM late on Saturday and I was told the shop had been very busy - which was not expected as Cosford was on. Usually when a show is on it can be slightly slower in the shop than a usual Saturday.

Tommorow would have been my day of choice, but if I'm going anywhere its the Electric Fly in at Chester. Its such a shame it clashes with Cosford, but its local and Chris Martindale will be there flying his large WM Extra EP , which I have yet to see in  the flesh and Lindsay Todd might be there with his Melting and other models. I would like to see that too. So all the best for Cosford tommorow, pity I cant be there - the next major show I might make on my 'Tramper Mobility Scooter' will be Woodvale all being well.

I just logged on to see what Pics there were of Cosford, none? unusual....I expect I'm early!

LOL

Steve



I love all things Radio Control, so much it hurts.

Reply #6
Offline Walts wrote Re: Cosford 2009 Question on July 18, 2009, 22:16:53 PM
Hi Walts,

Hope you give us a shout & say hello. Can't miss me - I'm the tall git with the big camera getting in everyones way :embarassed: :nananana:

TTFN,
Neil

hello Neil :)
       I'll be looking out for ya' we met at Hendon a few years back, I'll probably be wearing the same old A2........just with a bit more belly showing this time ;D
 good to here today went well Alan, ........and perhaps more relevant for me, that tomorrow is looking better :af I'll say hello, and try and track down that hairy fella again too :ev  along with a few others I haven't seen for a while.

Walts.

 


Reply #7
Offline Shane L wrote Re: Cosford 2009 Question on July 18, 2009, 22:31:10 PM
Well NO piccies yet so I have me batteries on charge and a 20 minute drive tomorrow to get some on here ! :af

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Shanes Photos

Reply #8
Offline Pup Cam wrote Re: Cosford 2009 Question on July 18, 2009, 23:02:41 PM
I didn't make it today in the end but going tomorrow :af

If you see a short bloke with a Shuttleworth Polo shirt and an LMA cap it may well be me so do say hello.

Alan

Terrain avoidance is your responsibility ......

Reply #9
Offline Winchweight wrote Re: Cosford 2009 Question on July 18, 2009, 23:08:45 PM
Hi WW,
I would have loved to go today to see the Vulcan bt couldn't make it, and I hear it's not flying tomorrow.

How was the rest of the show ?

Cheers VB

Pretty darned good actually. Some very determined and professional dsplays. No-one semed unduly perturbed by the crosswind. I like Weston Park, but I'm afraid this year Cosford trounced it on content and just general slickness (it's a word :'') with a full and largely uninterrupted flying programme. No real trade bargains as far as I saw, and definately fewer punters, but overall a proper job.

Well done the Cosford organisers.

A400M - Grizzly!

Reply #10
alan c wrote Re: Cosford 2009 Question on July 18, 2009, 23:26:39 PM
well   we had lots of clearance bargains,   but, for some, not cheap enough,  how about us knocking 70quid off a 4mtre scale glider, only to be asked will you take less??   GRRRRR,   4mtr glider, for 139quid????  we also have other bargains,  just ask,  you never know!!   cash only these though :)   we have lots of new kits coming next week,  so older stock is going,    fancy a twin?  never been a better time to dig deep,  i had the new B25 out today,  what an awsome thing,  and for £350 too!!


Reply #11
Offline Winchweight wrote Re: Cosford 2009 Question on July 18, 2009, 23:30:26 PM
Don't be offended Al, as I said none I saw, not that there were none. I have no doubt there were some I just didn't see them. Guess I'm not in the market for a 4m glider or B25 tis all. :af

A400M - Grizzly!

Reply #12
alan c wrote Re: Cosford 2009 Question on July 18, 2009, 23:36:06 PM
offended?     no way,  just trying to show that there where some bargains,  but, seeing as our gear is high-end,  not all will support this,    but we had some cheapys too!!


Reply #13
Offline Winchweight wrote Re: Cosford 2009 Question on July 18, 2009, 23:39:22 PM
Fair enough. Goood show though. Would've like to see the SeaVixen fly..  :''

A400M - Grizzly!

Reply #14
alan c wrote Re: Cosford 2009 Question on July 18, 2009, 23:42:37 PM
me too ::)  but Dave, the developer, and pilot is away,  it will be at other events, 


Reply #15
Offline Winchweight wrote Re: Cosford 2009 Question on July 18, 2009, 23:43:19 PM
Will it fly at Green Acres?

A400M - Grizzly!

Reply #16
alan c wrote Re: Cosford 2009 Question on July 18, 2009, 23:52:48 PM
Last Edit: July 19, 2009, 07:59:03 AM by alan c
i wll find out if its going to be there,   let you know when i know :)

« Last Edit: July 19, 2009, 07:59:03 AM by alan c »

Reply #17
Offline tim hooper wrote Re: Cosford 2009 Question on July 19, 2009, 07:14:15 AM
Had a great time!

I was working on the pay-lanes for a couple of hours,  then happily watched the displays and browsed for bargains.  Met up with lots of old friends and caught up on goings-on.

High point had to be the Vulcan!  Left me all misty-eyed ......

I took the SO along with me and helped her to chose a nice aileron trainer for herself to learn on.  Got some gentle discounts, and came home contented.

tim


I never finish anyth

Reply #18
Offline slopetrashuk wrote Re: Cosford 2009 Question on July 19, 2009, 08:15:54 AM
No comment on the commentary?
Unintentionally funny as it was....
The highlight for me as the announcement  "If anybody has any good Beaver video's to please take them to the LMA stand"!
 ;D

At one point the guy with the VOX microphone was nestled in with the pilots of the Lancasters etc and EVERY swearword was broadcast to the paying public!

Perhaps it's time to admit the mistake and bring back DB

My 2p donated to the Vulcan....
Awesome.

Andy

Everyone is entitled to my opinion.

Reply #19
Offline SWM wrote Re: Cosford 2009 Question on July 19, 2009, 08:44:03 AM
Sunday, I got a text from Chris Martindale - he was flying at Cosford yesterday with his WM large E.P Extra. The electric model with more power than a 60 cc Petrol Engine! He was going to fly at Chester today, but I think he's staying at Cosford. The weather here is aweful. Windy and raining! I'm not sure what Chester EFI will be like or even if I'm going to bother going at this point.

Or Cosford? The weather..Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Steve

I love all things Radio Control, so much it hurts.

Reply #20
Offline fly-navy wrote Re: Cosford 2009 Question on July 19, 2009, 17:02:10 PM
VB stop at home next year,what a difference today was compared to yesterday,spent most of day dodging monsoon's,I say monsoon's not rain. :D :D
Ban him next year chaps :ev :ev
Good to meet up with so many formorites over the weekend even if it did cost me beer :co
Thank you Mr Ivanovich for letting me mug you,haven't stopped drooling over it yet,ready to give it MOT and get wind under it's wheels,thanks buddy :af :af :af
There really was some awesome models there and had a wonderful weekend even though VB put the mockers on today.
John

Now that I am older I thought it was nice I seemed to have more patience,turns out  I don't give  a sh*t

Reply #21
Offline nasa_steve wrote Re: Cosford 2009 Question on July 19, 2009, 17:30:37 PM
No comment on the commentary?


Perhaps it's time to admit the mistake and bring back DB

My 2p donated to the Vulcan....
Awesome.

Andy

andy as far as i was aware colin "the aviator" hammond was the lma'a spokesman not DB

nasa_steve

Reply #22
Offline The Stig wrote Re: Cosford 2009 Question on July 19, 2009, 17:53:41 PM

 bargains ??  my mate got a brand new MDS 28 for £3.00 !   Mr Sheep will be cross .

and commentary ,  Vulcan with reheat ??

a brilliant show ! excellent ! super .

Stig


Reply #23
Offline fly-navy wrote Re: Cosford 2009 Question on July 19, 2009, 18:05:47 PM
You can't blame me John - My priorities got changed by SWMBO and I spent the day in my garage painting skirting boards, watching the rain here too.

I've been trying to get my 80yr old father to Cosford for a while now but cold and wet isn't good for his health,  I need a year when the sun is shining.  Lets hope Sunday 2010 is a good one  :af
All is forgiven then VB,now who can I blame????
I know The Sheep for going home last night and not stopping for today ;D ;D

Now that I am older I thought it was nice I seemed to have more patience,turns out  I don't give  a sh*t

Reply #24
Offline nasa_steve wrote Re: Cosford 2009 Question on July 19, 2009, 18:14:35 PM
hi stig
   apparently there was a vulcan although so it seems a test bed with reheat fitted but i only found this out after about 30mins internet research. i must say i thought the Vulcan had reheat and i've seen it loads of times especially back in the 80's at west malling and biggin hill back then. so i suppose the commentary could be forgiven
nasa

nasa_steve

Reply #25
Offline JohnP wrote Re: Cosford 2009 Question on July 19, 2009, 18:26:17 PM
   apparently there was a vulcan although so it seems a test bed with reheat fitted but i only found this out after about 30mins internet research.

Would that have been the Vulcan that was used as a testbed for the Olympus engine for Concorde?

Remember, up is up, and down is down.  Except when inverted - when down is up, and up can be very expensive

Reply #26
Offline SWM wrote Re: Cosford 2009 Question on July 19, 2009, 18:28:41 PM
bargains ??  my mate got a brand new MDS 28 for £3.00 !   Mr Sheep will be cross .

and commentary ,  Vulcan with reheat ??

a brilliant show ! excellent ! super .

Stig

Bargain, thats cheaper than any ornament doorstop I've seen.

 ;D

Joking apart the 28 ran quite well when I tried one. I thought it was a good motor for the money ( around £28 at the time). Ripmax were selling them off cheap. £3.00 is just amazing.

I take it there was just the one? If there was a few 100 at £3.00 I'd have them :)

The export market  :D

Steve

I love all things Radio Control, so much it hurts.

Reply #27
Offline nasa_steve wrote Re: Cosford 2009 Question on July 19, 2009, 20:05:33 PM
hi john
this is what i found although its on wikipedia

XA894 flew with five Olympus engines, the standard four plus an underbelly supersonic Olympus 320 fed from a bifurcated intake starting just aft of the wing leading edge and inboard of the main intakes, in a mock-up of the TSR2 installation. This aircraft was burned out on the ground on 3 December 1962.[13] Another five Olympus Vulcan was B.1 XA903. The test engine was a 35,080 lbf (156.0 kN) Olympus 593, the type used in the Concorde, mounted underbelly in a mockup of a single Concorde nacelle. The first flight was on 1 October 1966 and testing continued through to June 1971.[14]

In April 1973 XA903 flew with an underbelly Rolls-Royce RB.199 turbofan destined for the Panavia Tornado. It was mounted in what was essentially one side of a Tornado, including reheat and thrust reverser.[15]

apparently i think the olympus 302 had a "single ring reheat" maybe someone in the know might be able to shed more light.
steve

nasa_steve

Reply #28
Offline The Stig wrote Re: Cosford 2009 Question on July 19, 2009, 20:15:36 PM
 there was only one MDS  :( :(, and Alan who bought it, was in his prime a Rolls-Royce, well actually at Bristol Siddeley,  Olympus Developement engineer , so he knew abit about reheat  :)

and yes it was the 593 Concorde engine ,slung under the Vulcan  
Both engines could be seen in the museum , totally different beasts .

I worked on the " other supersonic  thing " that hung under the Vulcan , well its engines actually !

stig


Reply #29
Offline slopetrashuk wrote Re: Cosford 2009 Question on July 19, 2009, 21:23:31 PM
andy as far as i was aware colin "the aviator" hammond was the lma'a spokesman not DB
Nah. Colin Hammond has only done it recently since DB announced his partial retirement.
I flew at cosford since the mid 80's and DB was the man. Funny as hell and eminently professional. Not like that gibberish over the weekend. Well intended or not.

Factual inaccuracies, freudian slips, bad language and gibberish. If this is the showcase make a show of it. Not worth the few quid they saved IMO.

Andy


Everyone is entitled to my opinion.

Reply #30
Offline nasa_steve wrote Re: Cosford 2009 Question on July 19, 2009, 21:36:48 PM
that would be all the years i've done Cosford as i've only ever known it to have Colin Hammond as a commentator. i do prefer colin but many prefer DB.
    incidentally i was pretty sure what they thought they had saved by doing their own commentary, they have lost in the professional approach the likes of colin and db bring to the table.
nasa

nasa_steve

Reply #31
alan c wrote Re: Cosford 2009 Question on July 19, 2009, 21:39:19 PM
Colin was not available,  dont know about DB, but he is getting a bit old now,   it needs another face on the circuit, 


Reply #32
Offline Vinceyboy wrote Re: Cosford 2009 Question on July 19, 2009, 23:04:24 PM
Last Edit: July 19, 2009, 23:27:54 PM by Buckerboy
Colin was not available,

It was not the case that Colin was not available, he had a falling out with the LMA over them buggering about and not confirming what shows he was doing, so in the end he told them to poke it, and resigned from doing their shows, but he will be doing Hastings shows and fly-in's, and the Nats Showline.  :af

« Last Edit: July 19, 2009, 23:27:54 PM by Buckerboy »
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Reply #33
alan c wrote Re: Cosford 2009 Question on July 19, 2009, 23:12:17 PM
Then---Colin was not available?


Reply #34
Offline Vinceyboy wrote Re: Cosford 2009 Question on July 19, 2009, 23:34:07 PM
Then---Colin was not available?

Well you could put it like that Alan,  :''  but as I understand it, he has resigned from doing anymore of their shows, and it was stated at one of the AGM's that they would never employ DB again, so where they go from here is anyone's guess,  $%&


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