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Reply #800
Offline Geoff N wrote Re: DS-UK Speeds... on January 23, 2012, 00:18:04 AM
Yes I would  be very interested in a fuz. I'll send you a PM.  I'll post some pics when the GC  is back back together. Its very rough and ready more of a proof of concept. Doing some measurements with jpg's from the video suggest that the max speed was about 100mph and I feel there is  more to come in  better conditions.


Reply #801
Offline deckit wrote Re: DS-UK Speeds... on January 23, 2012, 01:04:30 AM
Note the g/f DC did not far off 300 today.


Reply #802
Offline cambrad wrote Re: DS-UK Speeds... on January 23, 2012, 10:21:19 AM
Note the g/f DC did not far off 300 today.

Er..........whats the g/f DC graham???


Reply #803
Offline Zim wrote Re: DS-UK Speeds... on January 23, 2012, 11:16:21 AM
Nice one Geoff!

Chris - it's "glass-fibre Daisy Cutter".

Carbon isn't much stronger than glass. It's just stiffer. Kevlar is stronger than either, but more difficult to laminate.

Z


Reply #804
Offline deckit wrote Re: DS-UK Speeds... on January 23, 2012, 11:54:00 AM
Daisy cutter pic & details of lay-up, etc:

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1035372&page=36


Reply #805
Offline deckit wrote Re: DS-UK Speeds... on January 24, 2012, 18:10:17 PM
Could be a decent day at RE tomorrow........


Reply #806
Offline cambrad wrote Re: DS-UK Speeds... on January 25, 2012, 10:43:27 AM
I had considered coming over G but forcast showed wind direction could be S/w.

Quick question, when the wind is a s/westerly has anyone tried launching from the usual spot to gain height then walked higher up to Lords seat???  On google earth the very steep backside appears to be at right angles to a oncoming s/w ? I know its quite flat on the top up there but it might work and that severely steep backside could produce good results with more ground clearance in a circuit. $%&


Reply #807
Offline Zim wrote Re: DS-UK Speeds... on January 25, 2012, 12:19:34 PM
I had considered coming over G but forcast showed wind direction could be S/w.

Quick question, when the wind is a s/westerly has anyone tried launching from the usual spot to gain height then walked higher up to Lords seat???  On google earth the very steep backside appears to be at right angles to a oncoming s/w ? I know its quite flat on the top up there but it might work and that severely steep backside could produce good results with more ground clearance in a circuit. $%&

Hope you try it mate - I've often had the same thought but been too lazy!

Z


Reply #808
Offline cambrad wrote Re: DS-UK Speeds... on January 25, 2012, 17:34:52 PM
Think i should have tried RE today, still showing 30mph peak at the mo, and bang on southerlies.
Never mind got a bit of good frontside action with the Dynamics on our local slope.

Did anyone venture up to RE today?


Reply #809
Offline deckit wrote Re: DS-UK Speeds... on January 25, 2012, 20:17:21 PM
Hi Chris:

Shame you didn't come up to RE as it was a very pleasant day & you would have enjoyed it, although almost predictably (reflecting the MO's caution after the Oct 1987 storm debacle....) the wind was weaker than forecast.
Sufficient for cruising rather than fast cruising.

FTD was KS' D40 with 149 mph.
Failing to make 150 cost him a round of drinks at the usual old hostelry on the way home.....

His D60 would have gone rather faster, of course, but on its release from the bag it was evident that some of the span-loading lead in the wing was slopping about, so strictly no-go.

Ironically, while KS was buying a round in the pub, it was evident from the clouds overhead that the wind had picked up considerably. Typical!

Ron (Broughton) was the only other flyer. His Zipper went round v.nicely.

Barely any walkers, so almost no DSing disturbance.


Regarding SW'lies; in a true SW'ly there's barely any lift on the front at RE (even over the frontside "bowl" near the trees), so you'd be lucky to nurse your plane up to Lord's Seat.
It might be possible to launch frontside beyond LS & then drop-in back at LS but, so far as I'm aware, no-one has tried it.

Needs someone to have the energy to try it.


Reply #810
Offline cambrad wrote Re: DS-UK Speeds... on January 27, 2012, 11:11:45 AM
Graham
I would be willing to have a walk up to LS next time im in the area if the wind does swing around to more s/w. Would be very interested to see if it would work, the backside appears to be as steep as PYF but i have only seen pics........but would love to actually get up there and check it out for real  :D

Thanks for the report on your day at RE by the way, sounds like you had a pleasant afternoon.

On another note there seems to be little interest on the ds forum lately, appears to be the same 3-4 people posting which i find strange as the forum  gets lots of hits every day, and we have had lots of wind over the last month ???

Obviously getting time of work could be a big issue for many,......oh, and timing the holiday to coincide with ideal ds conditions >:(


Reply #811
Offline cambrad wrote Re: DS-UK Speeds... on January 27, 2012, 11:15:48 AM
Would  be nice if some of you lurkers could post  occasionally and keep the threads going?
Anyone keen to try ds for the first time? Get in touch, maybe arrange to meet up on a slope for a bit of guidance :af

Not from me of course, i mean someone who knows what they are doing ;D ;D ;D


Reply #812
Offline Hot Air wrote Lord's Seat on January 27, 2012, 11:49:54 AM
Hi Chris

A few years ago, when my life was dull and boring  :'' (before my exciting DS adventures began) I took a light foamie to the slope in front of Lord's Seat. It is quite a long way from front to back on that part of the hill but decent mouldies like your D60 would cover the ground with little fuss and if for any reason you had a hickup down the back and didn't have enough speed left to punch out to the front again, the top is laminar flow with a huge area of nice soft grass to land in.

Having said that I just looked at Google Maps terrain view (showing the contours) and the front of the hill in the area you're considering faces SSE so it wouldn't give any useful lift in a SW. As Graham pointed out, lift on the front at RE gets terrible once the wind veers beyond SSW. Somewhere beyond about 200 degrees the lift just switches off. Further along the hill towards Lord's Seat the slope faces more E so would surely be even worse. It's such a shame because we are in real need of a decent SW site in this area.

Don't let me put you off trying because if it did work we'd all be stoked and forever grateful but I would suggest going with the attitude, prepare for the worst and hope for the best!

Cheers

Steve

He who dies with the most toys wins

Reply #813
Offline cambrad wrote Re: DS-UK Speeds... on January 27, 2012, 12:09:42 PM
Thanks for that steve, pm sent.


Reply #814
Offline deckit wrote Re: DS-UK Speeds... on January 27, 2012, 12:56:19 PM
Chris,

There isn't as much DS activity as in recent years, for a number of reasons.

For one, those intent only on pursuing speed find it gets expensive, too expensive for some.

The survivors tend to be those who are also keen on DS cruising.

Though the latter doesn't produce much of interest to anyone else, so postings are infrequent.

And of course there are two forums taking almost all DS traffic, where once there was one.








Reply #815
Offline deckit wrote Re: DS-UK Speeds... on February 03, 2012, 20:27:18 PM
With Jools, heading for RE tomorrow morning.
Hope some more venture out.
Bring a sledge, just in case.


Reply #816
Offline wdeighton wrote Re: DS-UK Speeds... on February 04, 2012, 18:46:55 PM
Good to see you Graham and Jools.


Reply #817
Offline deckit wrote Re: DS-UK Speeds... on February 04, 2012, 20:35:50 PM
And you, Will.

Good to get some laps in.

Unfortunate Steve arrived just as snow stopped play, but we had a good compensatory session at the pub :)


Reply #818
Offline wdeighton wrote Re: DS-UK Speeds... on February 08, 2012, 23:50:06 PM
Ds hasn't died, but it left the country today.
Thanks For 21% Oxygen.
You where a breath of fresh air for the PD DSers and will be missed!


Reply #819
Online Yoyo wrote Re: DS-UK Speeds... on February 09, 2012, 00:06:58 AM
The survivors tend to be those who are also keen on DS cruising.

I wasn't going to ask, but since this thread has woken up again... WTF is DS Cruising? Sounds like something done in deserted car parks late at night...
 

Oh, hang on - it isn't 'fly it like you borrowed it, land it like you stole it', is it!
So that's where I've been going wrong...

Reply #820
Offline deckit wrote Re: DS-UK Speeds... on February 09, 2012, 01:25:36 AM
Hmm, why would anyone cruise a deserted carpark? :''

It's just a reference to those who are happy part or all the time to DS without seeking to break a record.





Reply #821
Offline deckit wrote Re: DS-UK Speeds... on February 14, 2012, 18:53:23 PM
Damn; top conditions at MS tomorrow, planned to go with Jools, but now we've both got work commitments >:(

First time in over a year there's been a decent genuine NW'ly.

Hey-ho, next time.......


Reply #822
Offline Zim wrote Re: DS-UK Speeds... on February 14, 2012, 20:59:27 PM
Nice one G - good to hear that you're keeping the slopes warm for the rest of us!

Z, who really needs a JW60...


Reply #823
Offline deckit wrote Re: DS-UK Speeds... on February 15, 2012, 00:04:49 AM
Are JW60 kits not available?

I might be persuaded to part with my untouched JW60 DS kit; though I long ago promised Jools first shout if I decided not to keep it.

(I have the DSS kit too; but the DS version is just as good for the adventurous given it's only a matter of slotting in some additional carbon rods).


Reply #824
Offline cambrad wrote Re: DS-UK Speeds... on February 15, 2012, 13:57:00 PM
Damn; top conditions at MS tomorrow, planned to go with Jools, but now we've both got work commitments >:(

First time in over a year there's been a decent genuine NW'ly.

Hey-ho, next time.......
Couldnt make MS today because i had a midday mortgage meeting, they rang at 11.30 to say it had been cancelled.
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!
Too late in the day to set of now, and XC currently showing 25mph down there. Gutted :'(


Reply #825
Offline ridgerage wrote Re: DS-UK Speeds... on February 22, 2012, 12:44:20 PM
Now Then Chris , whats this mortgage stuff , you moving  nearer to RE? ;D

Gareth.


Reply #826
Offline cambrad wrote Re: DS-UK Speeds... on February 22, 2012, 18:57:26 PM
Been a while stranger, thought you had packed it in !
A move to the PD would d be nice, certainly better than round here, but unfortunately its just renewing the mortgage policy :embarassed:

Will be heading up that way tomorrow for a crack at a new Pb, not sure the conditions will provide enough drive though, if not will be good just to get a few circuits in and sharpen up the old reflexes !


Reply #827
Offline deckit wrote Re: DS-UK Speeds... on February 22, 2012, 20:17:17 PM
Can't now join you tomorrow, but hope you have fun & leave with all planes intact from that devilish place.

Was thinking I might get time to maiden the M60 with a brief flight at BC on Friday, but see the latest forecast has turned wet. >:( :banghead:


Reply #828
Offline cambrad wrote Re: DS-UK Speeds... on February 22, 2012, 21:04:36 PM
Shame you cant join us G, taking vid camera so hopefully get some footage.

Weather looking very promising at the mo, hope it stays that  way:xx


Reply #829
Offline wdeighton wrote Re: DS-UK Speeds... on February 22, 2012, 21:09:18 PM
Not that I can get out to play tomorrow, but where are you planning on going? Doesn't seem PB good to me, but maybe light cursing.
If you do go good luck.

Will


Reply #830
Offline deckit wrote Re: DS-UK Speeds... on February 22, 2012, 23:20:14 PM
HH, Will.
It's a decent WSW-W.


Reply #831
Offline cambrad wrote Re: DS-UK Speeds... on February 22, 2012, 23:22:38 PM
Not that I can get out to play tomorrow, but where are you planning on going? Doesn't seem PB good to me, but maybe light cursing.
If you do go good luck.

Will
Depends how high your current Pb is Will  :D


Reply #832
Online Spoons wrote Re: DS-UK Speeds... on February 24, 2012, 10:54:42 AM
With out trawling through this thread, is there a table of DS pb's ?
I would just be interested to see what model has done what by whom here in the UK !
Thanks
Jon

Today Matthew I am going to be wing section MH32.


Reply #834
Offline deckit wrote Re: DS-UK Speeds... on February 24, 2012, 19:10:36 PM
Where's the over 60s category?   ::) :ev


Reply #835
Offline cambrad wrote Re: DS-UK Speeds... on February 24, 2012, 20:38:59 PM
Anyone know what the UK foamie record is?
There are a couple of models on there which have names i dont recognise, homebrews i presume.

Deckit, what speed did you get with the HP 60?


Reply #836
Offline hobster wrote Re: DS-UK Speeds... on February 24, 2012, 20:58:13 PM
Mark Southall went 200 with his Reaper

reaper ds extreme 200mph skirrid uk


Reply #837
Offline deckit wrote Re: DS-UK Speeds... on February 24, 2012, 21:27:45 PM
Anyone know what the UK foamie record is?
There are a couple of models on there which have names i dont recognise, homebrews i presume.

Deckit, what speed did you get with the HP 60?


154, Chris.
As pictured:
http://www.rcspeeds.com/aircraftdetails.aspx?AC=103

But that speed (standard build) broke the dragspars, so it no longer flew-on-rails.
Now repaired, but awaiting re-covering.

But I'm sure a DS modified one would go very much faster, possibly 200.
Beautiful plane:)



Reply #838
Offline Hot Air wrote Re: DS-UK Speeds... on March 01, 2012, 10:20:53 AM
Hello from Dubai!

I hope you guys are getting in some flying. Any flying is better than none.

No flying to report here from the desert (yet) but I have clocked a few good looking ridges. I also intend to try my reaper for a few laps behind a big desert style sand dune for a laugh.  My planes are here but my Tx is on a ship somewhere enroute (didn't have room to pack it within our air freight allowance). Whilst I'm going through a few months of training I won't find time to explore and fly anyhow but I'm very encouraged to have visually seen some strong potential for DS here.

Cheers all!

Steve

p.s. check the forecast. They have a 10 day forecast here and from what I have seen so far they are correct. Sorry, couldn't help it (DSMan, UK's fastest 60+ pilot will be able to translate degrees F to anyone who needs it). Mostly 25-30 C

He who dies with the most toys wins

Reply #839
Offline hobster wrote Re: DS-UK Speeds... on March 01, 2012, 14:13:52 PM
Hey Steve, great to hear from you. Sand dune DS sounds like fun.




Sunny and windy, have you found a new DS Mecca?

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