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    « Reply #150 on: March 28, 2007, 21:58:57 PM »

    Hi Dennis, Cliff, Thanks guy's, My camera finally packed up for good, so we are getting a new one, should be here by the end of the week Smiley I've been doing a little bit in the cockpit, nothing too special but hopefully will be able to post some sharper close ups soon. DIY is still interfeering with any decent stint of modelling Roll Eyes But the plan was to bash out as much as i possibly could during the winter months and hopefully be left alone during the flying season Azn

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    « Reply #151 on: March 30, 2007, 16:38:50 PM »

    My new camera turned up today, so I've been playing with it. It certainly is a lot sharper, these are all taken hand held but capture the detail a lot better than the old one Smiley

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    « Reply #152 on: April 01, 2007, 20:53:48 PM »

     Walts,
        Your enjoying your new camera!  Cheesy
      What can I say....a sharp, well built, a excellently finished Hurricane....it"s a credit to you  Smiley

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    « Reply #153 on: April 01, 2007, 23:05:21 PM »


        Your enjoying your new camera!  Cheesy
     

     Grin Grin Grin Grin
     Got nothing better to do at the mo' Cliff. I don't want to start something new until this one is finished, I've got a one track mind if you know what i mean , and I'm just waiting on the paint.

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    « Reply #154 on: April 04, 2007, 09:48:55 AM »

    Superb quality build mate, very smooth and sharp. Love the switch idea. Might have to steal that to lock the canopy shut on mine!!

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    « Reply #155 on: April 05, 2007, 14:20:19 PM »

    Hi' walt it's about time you got some colour onto that bird i'm waiting to fly it.
     Cheesy Roll Eyes cool
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    « Reply #156 on: April 05, 2007, 18:46:44 PM »

    Cheers Ian, Be my guest, after all I've nicked enough ideas off of your Hurri build mate Cheesy


    Hi' walt it's about time you got some colour onto that bird i'm waiting to fly it.
     Cheesy Roll Eyes cool

    Hmmm...........................In that case Dad, the complition date has been rescheduled for some time after you've been put safely away in your new home Evil Evil Evil Wink

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    « Reply #157 on: April 07, 2007, 21:59:12 PM »

    Hi Walt
    what home would that be.  there's not a place with door strong enough to keep me in. How do you like the cat.

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    « Reply #158 on: April 08, 2007, 10:40:30 AM »

    The Catalina's great the little thumb nail pic doesn't really do this 108" beast justice though cool cool Wink
      Have a look here for another Catalina rebuild thread by Dennis, Loverly smaller version you might be interested in.
         
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    « Reply #159 on: April 26, 2007, 20:56:14 PM »

    Walts, that is the most incredible rendition i have seen of my Humble kit. When you consider how dull the magazines have become with endless reviews of Artfs where the most anyone can say is "the spinner could be of better quality"etc, here is a real build that is enthusing so many people.
    Its like a great novel , that none of us can put down.
    There are some exceptional modellers on this forum , but this is especially exciting for me .
    Two quick questions though.
    Your labrador Jack , seems to have lost interest. Is this general to the breed?
    About two pages back , I noticed you had a small salt and pepper pot to hand .
    Are they an ancient building aid? Or do you manage to get so much done by dining and building on the same table.
    Or ........., and be honest with us all here,
    Have you eaten Jack?
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    « Reply #160 on: April 28, 2007, 14:07:28 PM »

    Hi Richard,
              So..................you've worked out my elaborate work shop is really the family dinning table embarassed I think the salt & pepper pots are the wife's Union Jack, as long as they stand she retains sovereignty and reminds me that my models are only visitors.
     Jack is still with us and still helping out, he likes to hoover the floor of any balsa i drop. I just have to be careful not to drop an important small part of the model, otherwise i have a long wait to get it back Whistle

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    « Reply #161 on: June 03, 2007, 19:57:33 PM »

     :( Hi thought I'd just commemerate the demise of my housebrick oops no a typo Warbirds Hurricanne and RCV 91. Fatal mistake of pulling a tight turn at under 100ft on Chobham Common this morning, gravity was still switched on...Photos are from last week showing recommended launch technique, no way would it do an RoG on our patch, so heave ho off the side of the hill & hope airspeed kicks in before you run out of air space. Once in the air it was OKish but the RCV91 was going 3/4 throttle all the time.
    Nothing against Warbirds kits, got the La7 & it flies beautifully on an 80 f/s & Richard W was helpfull whenever I spoke to him but the Hurris just too heavy with half a ton of lead in the nose to get the CG anywhere near sensible.
    Interestingly there was a YT Hurri with a 120 F/S up at Chobham this morning but that's got a much longer nose than the Warbirds Hurri seemed to fly OK but wasn't exactely teararsing around even on a 120  Smiley

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    « Reply #162 on: June 04, 2007, 10:10:38 AM »

    Hi Bugs,
         Commiserations on your Hurricane, It certainly looked good whilst it was flying! As a matter of impending interest did you weigh it before you flew it? I've got a feeling mine will end up heavier Undecided

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    « Reply #163 on: June 04, 2007, 15:26:55 PM »

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    Must admit I didn't weigh it but it was know as the "brick" on Chobham Common, had to pack several layers of lead ballast at the front of the cowling to get the CG right, it did do a RoG once when a tuffet of grass at the end of the strip gave it just the necessary bounce to get into the air. Funny I don't think it mentioned this issue in the RCME review article....
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    « Reply #164 on: June 04, 2007, 21:29:53 PM »

    Mine came out at 10.5Ibs.  Luckily I had a nice grass strip.  Flew lovely and scale like on an SC80FS, but really could of done with more power. I had to fly it at full throttle all the time (it was better on a 61 2 stroke).   It's retired for now, was planning on an RCV91CD, but ideally I think I need to copy some of Walts ideas and put the Hurri on a diet.  One day it will return to the sky.
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    « Reply #165 on: June 05, 2007, 10:18:41 AM »

    I've just weighed the components of mine - dry weight is coming in at 9.5lb.  Good news is that it looks like balancing without any extra weight.    I'll try and use my cheap digital camera to take some snaps.   JimO
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    « Reply #166 on: June 05, 2007, 13:03:39 PM »

    Sounding good JimO,
         It'll be nice to see your progress 
    I intend getting back on mine once the GAD Lancaster is out the way, Never been able to concentrate on two things at once Roll Eyes

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    « Reply #167 on: October 05, 2007, 17:10:00 PM »

    Hi all,
         i can't believe it's been exactly 3 months since i last posted on this thread Shocked But i did build & fly the GAD Lancaster in the mean time so it wasn't wasted time Smiley
    Any how I've managed to rekindle my interest and now want to get it finished! I've sprayed the three main camo colours with WBC paints. This really is a lovely drop of gear, once cured i wire wooled the whole airframe with 'oooo' gauge w/wool, used wet in soapy water, and it really gives the paint a worn look. I intend to try my hand at some weathering techniques on this one, and will be rubbing back to reveal some 'metal'...........i hope Undecided before adding a wash.
    The canopy is just rested on at the mo' but i taped up the frame lines, then painted it first green then aluminum then green again, and have tried to give it a worn look with wire wool before removing the masking tape. Incedentally, this canopy was the rough test piece that Richard gave me, and was so fuzzy you couldn't see through it at all! So thanks to everyone for the tips given else where on using Johnsons floor wax to build up coats and get it reasonably clear
    Next job is to make some paint masks for all the markings. I've ordered a couple of meters of Metamark masking vinyl thanks to reading the info posted by Lozza on the YT Hurri thread. Don't suppose she will send me a whole roll of the stuff by mistake like Lozza received though Cheesy
    Any how here's some pic's, i was quite pleased with the way some of the detail shows through the paint Smiley

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    « Reply #168 on: October 05, 2007, 17:28:58 PM »

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    « Reply #169 on: October 06, 2007, 21:13:34 PM »

    Thanks Phil, As it could be awhile before i receive the Metamark film with our postal strike threatening to delay post around a week. It gives me chance to ask a question. In the past I've hand painted my roundels using a paint compass and filling in by brush, the results can be a bit lumpy and streaky if lots of coats are required to achieve coverage. So i intend to cut all the roundels & lettering from the Metamark film and spray on the markings using the WBC roundel paints i already have. Am i right in presuming i would lay on the outer circle mask and spray the outer colour first. Then when it's cured lay on a ring to cover it and spray the middle colour before covering that and spraying the red finally. Or is there a better way to go about it???

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    « Reply #170 on: October 07, 2007, 14:11:54 PM »

    Thats the way I do it....................only down side if is you do put a blue down 1st, the white can take several coats, and you can end up with a slight ridge on the white edge. I did the Skyraider stars and bars this way, and the white covered well in (IIRC) about 3 coats over the insignia blue.......if you give the edges a light rub with a flatting pad once cured, it removed the ridge quite well, and gives good results. It's a lot more 'long winded' to mask each individual colour so you have no colour overlays....................each to their won really.

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    « Reply #171 on: October 07, 2007, 15:31:42 PM »

    Thanks Phil,
     I'll give it a go when the film turns up. several sprayed coats has got to look better than several brushed coats

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    « Reply #172 on: October 08, 2007, 11:11:30 AM »

    Wow, Amazing service from Metamark. Ordered Friday turned up thismorning currier service!

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    « Reply #173 on: October 08, 2007, 12:05:26 PM »

    Walt

    Just looked at my ref copy of AP 2656A covering 44/45 and the markings for a Day Fighter (Fighter Command) were:

    Wing upper roundel Type I
    Wing upper roundel Type II
    Fuselage roundel Type III

    Fus roundel dimensions were, in inches Red 12", White 16", Blue 32" and Yellow 36"

    The Fus codes were generally
    Port A/C letter, roundel, Sqn Code, Sbd: Sqn code, roundel, A/C Code
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    I'll get the type I/II dimensions for you after lunch 

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    « Reply #174 on: October 08, 2007, 12:26:58 PM »

    Thanks Steve, very useful info The other thing i wanted to know is are the roundels in the same position on each side of the fus. I know on the Lancaster they were staggered to accommodate the code letters. Also is there a specific distance in from the wing tip for the wing roundels, or is it just a matter of eying it up?

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    « Reply #175 on: October 08, 2007, 12:36:22 PM »

     Hi Walts,
                    Very interested in the "Metamark" film...have you any links to it?
                     Hurri"s looking great 

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    « Reply #176 on: October 08, 2007, 12:50:36 PM »

    Cliff, thanks mate,
       The Metamark film was first mentioned by Lozza on the YT Hurri thread. He asked for a sample and got a whole roll of the stuff for nowt! No such luck here, I got a few inches more than the 2m i paid for, although i did get a bit excited at the size of the box initially Evil What i didn't count on was the currier costs! Should have bought a whole roll to make it worth it, still they might send normal post if you ask.

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    « Reply #177 on: October 08, 2007, 13:30:54 PM »

    Walt's it was easier to scan it than rewrite it, here's the info:

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    Seems it varies as to type of aircraft and aircraft role

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    « Reply #178 on: October 08, 2007, 16:57:22 PM »

    Thanks again Steve, I'll have to read that a couple of times to get it to stick. You are a mine of information mate

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    « Reply #179 on: October 10, 2007, 10:10:02 AM »

    Had a bit of a disaster trying to spray the fus roundel yellow, my fault. The rear fus was covered in Sig coverall which has quite an open weave, which i thought was well sealed with dope. But the yellow went on with lots of pit holes in it, and only got worse with another coat. I had the same problem when spraying the camo colours but only on the rear fus, i thought I'd managed to seal it all by rubbing back and re-coating as the second attempt at the camos went on well.
    Basically i lost my bottle to carry on and have gone back to my old trusty paint compass, I'll still use the Metamark for code stencils though and brush them on (this seems to fill any holes in the weave better)
    The paint compass, apart from giving a perfect circle also leaves a slight ridge to paint up to that can be wire wooled down after the paint has cured.

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