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« Reply #30 on: January 08, 2004, 07:09:58 AM »

The actual retract unit would sit in the centre section. However, the ply mount would sit partly in the outer section. I am hoping to tackle this job starting tomorrow so I'll stick a few pictures on. I have had to wait a few days as I  was sent the wrong retracts - rated at 6.5lb. These were replaced without quibble I have to say.
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« Reply #31 on: January 09, 2004, 14:42:58 PM »

I have now cut out the foam for the undercarriage. I am going to make slightly larger mounting plates which will extend into the outer wing by 15mm and will be angled forward by 5 degrees to bring the wheels a bit further forward of the CoG. They will be well epoxied into place and have 1/4" doublers on the back to give the screws more purchase. I will also use the wheel wells to route the aileron servo leads through the centre section.

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« Reply #32 on: January 16, 2004, 13:54:41 PM »

Oh Door Mat..... It looks as if the retracts need to move out by 15mm and thus into the outer wing panel.  I hade taken the cylinder/piston/lock  off the retract unit to allow me to move it about. When I fitted it back the Tyre fouls the cyclinder.

Need to move the brackets out and use a longer leg. :(
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« Reply #33 on: January 16, 2004, 20:56:33 PM »

To get the leg into the correct position, i.e. almost on the join line, I have fitted the unit partly into the outer panel. This should give approx the correct leg length to scale. Although looking at my scale drawings we require a 3 1/2"wheel. I tried this, but it did not look correct, so am sticking with the 3".
Be careful of the alignment, retract unit to wheel well as when retracted the axle will angle forward. I started off with a straight line - unit to centre of well, this did not work as the wells are quite tight on the wheels.

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« Reply #34 on: January 20, 2004, 13:28:01 PM »

Here are the outer wing panels. One tip to sand and slots for the joint braces to cut. Then part off the ailerons and face with balsa. When the wing is joined I will be able to see more clearly where to cut to move the retracts outwards.

The old adage "measure twice, cut once" applies here as when marking out for the ailerons I got one wrong. Measured it all again before cutting and found the mistake!

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« Reply #35 on: January 23, 2004, 20:16:57 PM »

Now I've joined the wing panels and fitted the retract units. I had to move them out a further 12mm in the end to allow the tyre to clear the air line. They now sit on the joint line. I have made some dummy legs to get the length right before cutting the sprung ones.
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« Reply #36 on: January 23, 2004, 21:08:59 PM »

looking good Steve.....looking good.
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« Reply #37 on: January 24, 2004, 21:51:00 PM »

This is the first time I've slotted all the bits together to get a general picture - everything seems to line up OK.

The next step will be to fit the radio gear and retract valve/cylinder into the fuselage. Need to give it some thought about CoG and keeping the weight forward. When that's done I can fit the radiator, blend in the cowl, modify the decking to fit the canopy and fit the stringers.

Starting to look like a Hurricane.....

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« Reply #38 on: January 25, 2004, 08:27:42 AM »

looking good slip. Why not mount the air tank for the retracts on the wing to save making more connections when assembling the model? Of couse it depends how much room you have in the fuze. Cheers  Ringo
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« Reply #39 on: January 27, 2004, 18:22:39 PM »

I did think about mounting the u/c stuff onto the wing but decided against it - risk of transit damage etc.

After fiddling about decided on the layout below. I didn't want the cylinder rattling around so I made some brackets which hold 2 servos as well.
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Just the charge valve to go in, will have to make a bracket for this. The battery will go under the tank and the switch will go inside as well.

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Next is to connect all the control runs.
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« Reply #40 on: February 02, 2004, 19:50:08 PM »

Ah ....back again. 75 hrs at work last week!!  Anyway, carried on with the radiator for a bit today. Made a dummy radiator/oil cooler out of 1/8" balsa and aluminium mesh and carved an intake mouth as the plastic one didn't fit.

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Just needs a final sand to shape. I'm not sure if I should cut the door and set it slightly open, I'll have to think on that.
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« Reply #41 on: February 25, 2004, 21:55:18 PM »

'Long time no hear' - Slip - I'm missing your regular updates.  Are you working to hard at the moment?
Hope to hear from you soon.
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« Reply #42 on: February 26, 2004, 13:06:57 PM »

I have been a bit preoccupied with work and family just lately, I put the Hurri on hold for a bit. I've also been clearing up all the battle damage on models from last year so I've got a few to start the season with. I'll be back onto the Hurri in a week or two.
  The Germans bought our company in November and we were told yesterday that there will be many redundancies so I may have more spare time than anticipated.
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« Reply #43 on: February 26, 2004, 15:30:42 PM »

Good to hear you'll be back on the Hurri build as and when time permits. Best of luck with your job situation.
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« Reply #44 on: May 15, 2004, 19:17:54 PM »

Ah well, back at last. Pretty much finished on the build side now and fully covered / primed. Just started the camouflage today. The solartex has gone a bit baggy but a blast with a heat gun should sort it out.

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« Reply #45 on: May 15, 2004, 19:51:20 PM »

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Nice to see you back online. Have put mine on hold until I have finished a couple of old type aerobatic models.
Like you have covered with Solartex, in my case only the rear of the fuz. the front I glass clothed. Got the Springairs working after remachining the valve, which was faulty. Meet you in the air over Kent (or somewhere)

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« Reply #46 on: May 15, 2004, 20:15:14 PM »

Just love the "washing basket" stand.....very tendy  Cheesy
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« Reply #47 on: May 20, 2004, 15:02:45 PM »

The washing basket was the nearest thing to hand but has now found a new use - I just have to convince the missus of its importance !  Cheesy


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« Reply #48 on: May 20, 2004, 20:44:14 PM »

Hi another Warbirds Hurricane coming on, RIP Great Planes RV4 in bin liner behind.
 Chobham Common claimed another victim last weekend. RV4 had given 2 seasons good flying till I screwed up the approach..or was it a glitch..It was a great plane to fly, but the tail was fragile if it nosed over
Re Richard Wills & Warbirds, I've had great service from him, I was complaining about leaking Eurokit retracts, which I hadn't bought from him & he sent me a new central controller unit with a note to pay him if it solved the problem, which it did. Fantastic service Smiley
The Hurricane isnt a "plug & play" type kit, yes it does need a bit of fiddling but it sure looks enough like a Hurricane  for me & I'm enjoying the build.  
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« Reply #49 on: May 27, 2004, 11:48:22 AM »

Slipstream - any idea of the weight of the Hurri so far and have you had to put much lead in the nose?

I'm trying to decide what engine to fit to mine which is part built. It will have to be a 2 stroke for economic reasons.
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« Reply #50 on: May 27, 2004, 12:58:29 PM »

I've left the plastic moulded exhausts that came with the kit and carved a set from balsa. Painted them black to start with but they didn't lookright so repainted them after asking for advice.

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I haven't weighed it or balanced it yet, still got a few things to make like u/c doors. I also have to paint the markings, add a little weathering and fuel proof it all. I'll post the weights etc when its done.

The engine I am using is an ASP 0.61 FS which cost about £105 from Just Engines, give them a ring and see what they advise, they do a 2 stroke ASP for around the sixty quid mark.

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« Reply #51 on: May 29, 2004, 16:39:34 PM »

Here's the instrument panel, drawn in paint shop pro, cut out and pasted onto a balsa panel and overlaid with thin plastic sheet. The instrument holes were  masked off and the plastic sheet painted matt black.

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« Reply #52 on: June 01, 2004, 18:14:00 PM »

Finally decided which of 605's aircraft it would be  UP-U

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Painting the roundels - I cut circles from card and used these as templates to mark the wing, then using Humbrol enamels fill them in by hand. OK if you have a steady hand.

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« Reply #53 on: June 05, 2004, 17:32:58 PM »

The door in the radiator housing opens to allow access to the wing retaining screw and then can be closed or left part open

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99% finished now. Just about to be stripped, lightly weathered ( this was to represent a nearly new a/c )  and fuel proofed. The problem I have is that I can't seem to get my hands on any Flair matt fuel proofer in an aerosol. Should I do it in satin finish ?  I think the matt looks better but once its had a few flights and sprayed oil around would it wind up as a satin finish anyway. Dry weight is 7lb, I still have the u/c doors to add, fuel proofer and the engine silencer so I reckon about 7 1/2 lbs total.

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« Reply #54 on: June 05, 2004, 19:41:23 PM »

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You mention Flair spray fuel proofer. Don't know what others think but two or three of us have had bad experiences with it. I've gone to either one part Humbrol or Aerocote with more success.

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« Reply #55 on: June 05, 2004, 19:56:14 PM »

Stuart,

I have used Flair fuel proofer quite a bit without any problems, until now. I specifically want a matt finish and they haven't got any in stock.  Does the Humbrol / Aerocote come in aerosols ?

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« Reply #56 on: June 05, 2004, 20:09:02 PM »

Not in aerosols. We either use spray equipment or a sponge. Surprising how good the sponge is, even with gloss.

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« Reply #57 on: June 05, 2004, 20:13:27 PM »

Well done, the hurri is looking good. You seem to have kept it very light compared with the RCME review (9lbs). Did you take any special lightening measures? How much lead was needed in the nose for balance?

Looking forward to hearing how she flies in the near future!
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« Reply #58 on: June 06, 2004, 07:31:50 AM »

I have yet to balance it, will do that last of all. I have moved the engine forward by 1/4 " and extended the cowl to help a little with balancing. When it's done I'll give a final weight although I think it won't exceed 8lbs. The RCM&E review model weighed 7lb and apparently needed 2lb of lead to balance it bringing it up to 9lb !!
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« Reply #59 on: June 06, 2004, 10:18:39 AM »

Steve ,
You have made me feel a lot better about my LA7 as I thought I had got it badly wrong when it finally weighed in at 7lb 14oz. For my money I like a satin finish as I  think the matt doesnt look quite right on the smaller scale models.
The Hurri does look superb though.
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