Topic: Inter Pylon Team Race contest at Nats 2010

Ok chaps I know it's a little early but I thought I'd start getting something organised.
A few years back we used to run a Pylon open 1/2a mini goodyear team race open to all the pylon entrants and any one else that fancied a crack. Rules were simple. Any plain bearing 1.5cc diesel engine. Any 1/2a mini goodyear model or own creation of similar dimension. Pete Odell will be CD, anything that doesn't comply will be stamped on.

All the races will be held at the back of the tent area over the grass.

More info to follow.

Nice one J.

I happily accept the position of CD / model crusher! 

Owd

What line length you running.

We will be along with one, not sure who will fly and who will pit though, I would like Paul to fly as you lot will do about twice the distance once he stakes his place dead in the centre of the circle.

Baz

Not sure what you are saying there 

Paul

It does not matter much, as chances are they will all be no shows  

If them little guys do show up, they will be at a severe disadvantage against two 18 stone pilots!

Baz

 Motor will be a plain bearing PAW1.5. I will look into line length but normaly 42.5 foot would be required to keep some tension on these lightweights

Control Line!  Cool!  Haven't done that since I was 14!  And won't be doing it for a while now, as I snapped my achilles last week! 

Happy Christmas everyone! 

Ouch Pat, How did you manage that?

Hi Mate - Playing Squash!  Made a great noise when it snapped!  Don't think the popping of champagne will ever have the same appeal!

Will it be anything goes in the inner circle 

Can we have electric or is it just for proper engines and what plans are you using J to build from.

Paul

No electric, last time you raced electric it was too stressful.

At least with an IC engine we can blame any issues on some outrageous tuning idea of mine

Baz

Paul, anything goes in the middle! I have a plan some where for the sweet vee. Do you want a copy?

Baz, thats the spirit, lots of tuning may win or just a plain reliable motor, but where's the fun in that. 

Cheers J I would like the plan please.

Need to practice as C/L is not my thing and iam not allowed to fly a Lever

model to destruction until I pass the flight test 

Cheers J I would like the plan please.

Need to practice as C/L is not my thing and iam not allowed to fly a Lever

model to destruction until I pass the flight test 

You just hold the handle on these and get dizzy. I have had a bit of a challenge from some other member of the Pylon fraternity that at the moment would like to remain anonymous.

Justin

You got a scan of that Swee Pee plan or just the original?

Remaining anonymous is probably how they will stay until some time on the Monday afternoon of the Nats!

Baz

sweet vee was a double plan in the aeromodeler !! think the stinger was on tother side  I would like a copy Justin  I have a paw 1.5 and a pit man who made the world final in combat 

Smash

Is your pitman the pilot from the World Combat finals or the 'pitman'?

Baz

I think he must be referring to the F2e runner up a few years back robbed by russian Judges??

Thats the spirit Chas I built the stinger as well. I have scaled down 'Ole blue' as well from the Howard plan open goodyear jobbie. May fly a bit better, I'll let you know Well, scaled up as it's from a mag.

Smash

Is your pitman the pilot from the World Combat finals or the 'pitman'?

Baz

He was the pilot  But he is a good pitman too 

I think he must be referring to the F2e runner up a few years back robbed by russian Judges??

Thats the spirit Chas I built the stinger as well. I have scaled down 'Ole blue' as well from the Howard plan open goodyear jobbie. May fly a bit better, I'll let you know Well, scaled up as it's from a mag.

Yep it was a few years back now Justin lol
I built a Stinger aswell !
My first ever model plane was the "el Bandito" by Jolly Roger kits  Can anyone remember that model ??

Owd

What line length you running.

We will be along with one, not sure who will fly and who will pit though, I would like Paul to fly as you lot will do about twice the distance once he stakes his place dead in the centre of the circle.

Baz

Sorry Baz been out of circulation for a few days & just seen your post. Got a sneaking feeling we went as short as 35ft. Mick (Ar Kid) Illingworth would know, as his winning model is probably still in the loft with its lines attached!

Have a good Xmas

Pete

I think Mini goodyear is standard half A length, 13 metre something 42 foot something. I'll have a look.

I starting to think we might of bitten off more than we can chew. Could this be Barrie in second place.

http://www.bmfa.org/nationals/2009/cl/MGYResults.pdf

Whilst looking for a PAW 1.5 to mangle on ebay I stumbled on this. 1 bid already at 250 for an old IR?
Model Racing Engine on eBay (end time  30-Dec-09 13:12:46 GMT)

I would put good money on that being Keith Read selling the IR engine, judging by the smell of bull.

Baikanor (the smell is getting over whelming), Ravel Ibragimov (manufacturer of IR engines) was a small time operator as far as I know. In fact none of the engine guru's know where he sprung up from, so Baikanor is very unlikely.

The mini goodyear results were not me, I think that guy is called Brian Lever.

Baz

OK chaps I can't find me sweet vee plan :( but I have got a copy of the Polecat08 that every man and his dog uses. I have also spoke to this Gentleman as he is just round the corner from me.


http://controlline.org.uk/phpBB2/files/mikenorthlist_209_423.pdf

shall we just play by the proper mini goodyear rules?

Yes just run to the BMFA rules then I will not have to ask any more questions.

Someone edited my post about Keith Reads engines! it does not accurately reflect what I was meaning now!

Baz

The mini goodyear results were not me, I think that guy is called Brian Lever.

Yep Brian Lever and Brian Waterland I know them well  

Ps... I think its the swear filter that alters your posts baz

Yep Brian Lever and Brian Waterland I know them well  

Ps... I think its the swear filter that alters your posts baz

yes that will be it, I reasoned that the Mod. Zim was most likely salvating over some composite glider, and I did not think Justin had the Mod's rights so it must have been some auto feature.

Talking about removing things from the forum, what happened to the First Person View section? by a mercy it seems to have disappeared!

Baz

Talking about removing things from the forum, what happened to the First Person View section? by a mercy it seems to have disappeared!

Probably gone to the same place as the Overlander section, wherever that is?

Stu

yes that will be it, I reasoned that the Mod. Zim was most likely salvating over some composite glider, and I did not think Justin had the Mod's rights so it must have been some auto feature.

Baz

LOL Baz - you're right - it is the swear filter, which is a mystery to me! And you're also right about the composite glider - there's something arriving from the US today which is very saliva-worthy!

Hope you had a good Xmas mate and all the best for the New Year.

Z

Probably gone to the same place as the Overlander section, wherever that is?

Stu

Stu

Don't know about overlander, but I have had the misfortune to stumble upon the FPV board, it got moved right to the top of the general discussion page.

Baz

What is the wing span on a mini goodyear model ?

I don't think there is a wing span as such, the models are to be 1/12 scale if that gives some idea.

Rules are here http://www.bmfa.org/publications/rulebooks/files/Ru09-cl2.pdf

Stu

Thanks stu

You what I will be building in the travel lodge next week 

Morning Boss,

Hope you had a pleasant Christmas.

It doesn't look too good for that date we had at Shawbury but we are having a get together on Saturday at my field where there will be some home made soup, fresh hot buttered bread and what looks like some good weather.

You and Nige are invited if you fancy it.

Stu

Thanks Stu

I call you later

Plans arrived today so made a start. wing and tail plane done. Span is about 19 inch. Should go well on a little plain bearing paw

Models built ready for some glass cloth. Hopefully give it a wang round in a week or too. I know Baz isn't about anymore but If anyone see him, ask him if he wants a copy of the plans, same for anyone else. Just PM me.

Ta CK

Those that PM'd me, plans are in  the post today. Not heard anything from the mighty F3d fraternity? Are they worreid they will out 'tuned' by the club2000 boys?
MR Jones?

As usual were { F3D } are just getting on with it.   

Our talking will be done at the event during the lapping of you lot .

Already got the wing mould finished ?

Oh sod it there i go talking like you again 

Seeing as you are participating in C2000 this year, you can freely talk S**t rather than 'just get on with it'

There's a rumour going around that a certain 'band of brothers' may well still have there 1992 winning model from the last interclass comp. Powered by a Chinese Silver 'sparrow'