Topic: Weston 2010 even less to wait now !!

Top show that as usual was well organised. Just a few thoughts

 - Not the same without Mickey shouting!!
 - Full size displays were awesome - how the hell that glider did the loop that terminated in a gap between and below  2 trees i dont know... 
- Slots were on time and never cut short - Mickey take note..
- Great food and drink in hospitality tent.
- must listen to myself when trying to take off 1/3 scale pup in 90 degree crosswind..i.e DONT!!
-Where was the Scale stuff and BIG stuff? For me there was just too much aerobatic displays - Most were awesome but there were some really boring stuff in there - too high/ too basic /too far away /too small - THIS IS NOT A CRTICISM OF SHOW ORGANISERS - I fully realise that you can only put on displays if the pilots register and turn up!!
- DB Rocks!
- the pair of synchro helis was brilliant  - HTF they remember that routine without a caller stuns me p.s I hate helis..
-Best display for me....got to be the Bishop's Hawks - awesome as usual...

Book me in for next year!!

Jez

cracking show loved it
the spit was just up from where we camped, one of our boys was in the cr&pper below it at the time  
i can see why the spotter took his eyes off, your rarely needed so end up watching other things, full up and throttle is just wrong tho.
funny enough i'd already been told about this guy on the friday evening, shocking flying standard on a large aerobat only ended when a pictulary rough bit of flying ejected the ignition battery out the front  

on a sadder note we have to announce that mid air molly has taken out her last victim ( the mustang in the shot with the F4U )
just one of those mid airs, you can see your getting close to someone, but to do anything would cause the crash, we both turned into the pyros and the quicker molly on the inside bit off the mustangs tail getting caught up in the fin herself they both piled in.
molly died an ace that being her 5th score and remained solid and reliable to the end, you'll be sadly missed.  

that done with, gezz just too many good things to all mention, ali brilliant as per norm, the dawn patrol did an excellent job given the wings, one poor guy found a tree, the young lad with the heli was pretty good, but he's rubbish with a cougar  

so what was the total for overlander losses over the weekend ?   

Quite a few lol

Oh God...

Mid air Molly is dead.........RIP...

Cant u include a bit of her balsa in ur next model so the spirit lives on???

Jez

cracking show loved it
 the young lad with the heli was pretty good, but he's rubbish with a cougar  

lol now that was funny and AJ took the mocking in good humour

BB

Hey Phil,  good to meet you Saturday night.

on a sadder note we have to announce that mid air molly has taken out her last victim ( the mustang in the shot with the F4U )
just one of those mid airs, you can see your getting close to someone, but to do anything would cause the crash,

What was the advice you gave me - just fly like they are not there, don't worry you won't hit them     Still, sorry to hear she's gone, she had a good life though.

the young lad with the heli was pretty good, but he's rubbish with a cougar  

I presume you are reffering to the excellent 20ft long flight on Sat evening followed by an embarrassing 20ft walk to retrieve the kit of parts!! What happened, it looked to me like he simply threw it onto the floor!!???

yup, threw right handed and didn't get back to the stick quick enough 

What was the advice you gave me - just fly like they are not there, don't worry you won't hit them   Wink  Still, sorry to hear she's gone, she had a good life though.

so i did, but even tho they looked close you still can't do much because chances are your not close till you do avoid them
given the size difference i couldn't quite tell where i was, but once he turned in i had to as well and then it's just which line your both on.
if i had more thinking time i could of chopped the throttle and dropped back, but all the time you get is "wow, thats close, their going to hit"
the advice still stands tho, unless your at the back of the circuit banked over where its easy to work out where you all are, passes up the strip you take minimal avoiding action unless it's clear and easy.
sudden movement cause crashes and could lead to the debris doing something other than crashing straight up the strip safely.

tis one of those things i'm afraid.

I presume you are reffering to the excellent 20ft long flight on Sat evening followed by an embarrassing 20ft walk to retrieve the kit of parts!! What happened, it looked to me like he simply threw it onto the floor!!???

Adam Law? Cougars (or indeed any RC model) don't tend to react properly when you have the ailerons reversed 

Adam Law? Cougars (or indeed any RC model) don't tend to react properly when you have the ailerons reversed 

  Oooh Bu99er

Andy Johnstone not Adam

Great weekend, considering what it takes to organise an event like this I would say it ran like clockwork 10/10 and again Steve had managed to organise the weather.

Most ofthe swap meet stuff was way overpriced,but my mate sold a katana with St3200  and full set of metal servos for £150,( a bargain)he sold a Flair Swallow  within 5 mins of the thing opening on sat morning, and a seagull models space walker etc.

I ended up buying a graupner typhoon edf jobbie for £50,0 and ifs someone off here..... er does it fly?

Very nice weekend, and whoever got the 1 week in spain hol for £200.00 , well done.

 as one of the very few , or so it seems , who was not a participating pilot , I would just like to say personally and on behalf of our club , and there was at least 50% of our members there , it was as usual a super show .
we all enjoyed it and will be back next year .

thanks lads

Stig

well back from weston  knacked think i may have sun stroke  many thanks to all the pilots and helpers  that attended the show flying was fantastic to many to thank you all did Weston proud ,this was by far our best Weston ever  it seemed a lot more work this year and harder maybe we are getting to old ,
Steve 

the thanks are due to you and the gang,  long may you prosper,     and yes,  it does get harder the older you get,     i am aching like an aching thing,    

From a punters perspective, me and Netty enjoyed our day out immensely! 

We saw some brilliant models, some excellent flying, bought lots of goodies, met lots of friends.  What more could anyone ask of a show?

tim

Aye wonderful weekend,lovely atmosphere,lovely weather Carp wind direction and I think the DP did wonderfully well coping with it especially on the sat were they seemed to be fighting it all the way,took a lot of courage to get them up and sadly there were a few mishaps but to see most of them up again sun was the highlight of the show for me,and the young lad flying the triplane deserves a bit of a mention for one so young standing next to "old man "Redshaw did'nt seem to phaze him,and  the two Hawks flown by Messrs Bishop,what can we say.
Two questions
1 Have Kens shoes dried out
2 Are we having a collection to keep Jez in props
Thanks to all the gang
John

2 Are we having a collection to keep Jez in props

John

You can go off people you know......but actually I could do with prop sponsorship!!

Jez

Try Keeping Alex in props for his T Link foamy.... Satuday night took care of three props, within 2 hours.

Peter

not many vids on youtube yet? 

got me piccys up on photobucket
http://s109.photobucket.com/albums/n54/cornishcactus/Weston%202010/

That Jet Ali is holding wont win any points in the looks department!

it kinda grows on you, in the same way an orca whale looks quite nice

Believe it was a "Wrong model" issue (as in not flying your own model).

Anyway, a great w/e again and a massive thanks to all the organisational team, it was a superb effort from start to finish .............and for once the TJD team lost more than the FunFighters in that last pyros slot (second photo above of F4U landing taken at the end of that slot with the orange smoke still going strong).

Pete

The pyro slots were great but a few were lost. The mustang in the pic was not part of the tjd team. He was on his own and joined the slot! Bet he wishes he hadn't. We only actually lost 2 models in the pyro slots. One on Saturday and one on Sunday. Both times the tree jumped out and grabbed them.

Considering the amount of models lost throughout the weekend we got off very lightly. Big heavy warbirds and crosswinds don't mix but none were lost thankfully, just a couple of bent undercarriages. The first turn over the tree's was very disconcerting to say the least. jets and models with excess power weren't effected of course but many others were

Sorry, I stand corrected - easy mistake 
(great crash though!  )

Pete

On a safety note, can someone explain why certain 'show' pilots were allowed to fly Jet Turbines at high speed towards the public then either turn or pull up when the BMFA clearly state 'No turn should terminate with the aircraft on a heading towards the spectator enclosure'?

Is it one rule for one and not another?

it ended up turning away, so the turn isn't terminated towards the crowd is it

we could all just do sedate left hand circuits if you find that entertaining. 

anyone note the first moaning took 3 days this time, a new show record 

Griff - at some point on any given circuit an a/c will be on a heading towards the crowd line even a figure 8 will have it..

Only by flying straight lines with a reversal will it be avoided...

Now that would be dull to watch!!

Jez

Only by flying straight lines with a reversal will it be avoided...

Now that would be dull to watch!!

Jez

Not in a DP slot with 15 up it wouldn't 

Steve

Griff - at some point on any given circuit an a/c will be on a heading towards the crowd line even a figure 8 will have it..

Only by flying straight lines with a reversal will it be avoided...

Now that would be dull to watch!!

Jez

And even the reversals would need the roll to be away from the crowd....

Was thinking more in terms of large turbines flying through the gap area of the two large Oak trees in the centre directly towards the spectators before pulling up or around.

Clip on of those babies and where do do think the aircraft would likely end?

You guessed it.

Figure of eights can have the intersection exiting either towards the public or away which in fact most did as in the bombing run.

Griff - at some point on any given circuit an a/c will be on a heading towards the crowd line even a figure 8 will have it..

That is inevitable - and just as true at a full sized air show.

The BMFA handbook says (from memory) that no turn should END with the model pointing towards the crowd. In your circuit example, should the model failsafe during the final turn it will continue turning to some extent as the the control surfaces will go to neutral. Even on a model with significant dihedral it will take some time for the model to cease turning.

If it were to failsafe in straight and level flight towards the crowd there would be a much higher chance of an accident.

There is no 100% safe answer apart from putting the crowd in a cage!

There is no 100% safe answer apart from putting the crowd in a cage!

I'd say some pilots and some of the crowd at weston needed going in cages anyway !!

massive thankyou to all the pilots  that flew at weston this year realy safe flying and a  well run flight line form Andy and his team
BMFA was on site sunday and gave the show a thumbs up with no issues
see you all next year
steve

Only 358 days to go until Weston Park 2011.

Great weekend, well run. If you go only to one show a year, go to this one.

Final curtain call: Thread closed. 

Thread closed. 

oh no it isn't.........

Was thinking more in terms of large turbines flying through the gap area of the two large Oak trees in the centre directly towards the spectators before pulling up or around.

Clip on of those babies and where do do think the aircraft would likely end

we can see the gaps, you can't, you can tell far in advance if your going to make it, infact it's even easier doing it towards yourself because you can have a large straight run up as you'll find Ali doing, he'll rarely do it the other way with the jets because it's not as safe, not turn from the flightline in as the funfighters do.

if you clip a tree, it'll end up around 30-40 feet infront if your unlucky, so still 40 odd foot short of the pilot and  another 50 to the crowd

just found this shot on our club website from steve w


more here, just scroll down the main page, a few shots of mollys last flight too www.rcflyers.net

Hi Steve,

Firstly as I said to you after your display with Matt, gets better each time you go up, keep it up and well done to you both

This will be my only show of 2010 due to going in Hosp for back Op which will take me out for a year , I had 4 great days, sat with my mate on Sunday evening with a nice glass of wine, many thanks to all who played a part to make such a great weekend

Steve, can I come next year

All the best

DB