Topic: Feibao Jets: F5

Hi folks,
This is my new F5 from the Feibao kit range. To me this is a stunner  The overall quality is very good and the scale cockpit is ace. I will fit a Wren 160. I have not fitted all the drop tanks(4) yet.

 I may start a build thread if I knew how to put pictures on easier lol.
Cheers Richard.

Velly niiice

Ian

Nice Richard,

Must be good to pull Redders on to the Jet forum!!

oooooooooh.. Subscribed.... 

Sweeeeeeeeet!   

Hi Richard, looks great 

Could you do me a favor if you have time? Would you mind posting pictures of the ordnance you received with the kit as well as the pylons.  Phil has just started to paint mine and I was going to start making the tooling for the pylons and ordnance but if the FB stuff is accurate I'll just order it from AceJets, will save me weeks of hard work.

Many thanks and looking forward to watching your build.

Cheers, Alex

Nice. Please do a "build" thread.

Hi Alex,
Ordanance and pylons as requested:

These are very good quality like the rest of the kit.

I recommend anybody looking for a jet kit consider the Feibao range. These are excellent value for money and appear to be of higher quality than some others.
contact Martin at Acejets.(pm me for his number)
Cheers Richard.

Thanks Richard 

Do the wings have pylons for those drop tanks?

yeah........Martin is a good bloke to deal with.

The Skymaster wings have 4 sets of threaded inserts buried into the bottom skins if that's of any use Alex...............(same in the tips for the missile rails as well)

Phil

Hi Richard, pretty looking model, and yes I would like to follow your build

BUT, RICHARD S. BUILDING JETS it's like Ali going over to train sets

On a serious note, after reading about Colin Strause's experience in the latest RCJI, I'd give that airframe a thorough inspection, these far eastern company's seem to be a bit hit & miss with the glue gun from what I've read

Other than that Good luck chap, looking forward to it

On a serious note, after reading about Colin Strause's experience in the latest RCJI, I'd give that airframe a thorough inspection, these far eastern company's seem to be a bit hit & miss with the glue gun from what I've read

A problem that crops up from time to time is that they have not glued the spars to the skin along their entire length and that unglued section becomes a potential failure point.  The manufacturers generally rely not on good fitting parts as those can require fettling which takes worker time, but a huge gap which will be filled with glue, and sometimes the glue doesn't bridge the gap at some points.  It is not only on the cheaper far eastern jets, my AD F-100 wing had a section of a couple of inches length where the gap had not been bridged.  Get a mirror on a stick and a torch and search as far down into the wing (and tailplanes too if possible) to look for gaps, and pour in suitably thickened epoxy if needed.

The Skymaster wings have 4 sets of threaded inserts buried into the bottom skins if that's of any use Alex...............(same in the tips for the missile rails as well)

Thanks Phil I'll look into it...

Its imperative a firm positive control check is made with this sort of set up i.e. lock the stab in place and twist it by hand there should obviously be no give.  It's something I've always done on flying stabs similar to the F5's.  If it gives in at this stage it won't survive long on the air.

All glue joints and spars look okay to me  
Been doing the task of planning and installing all the airlines for the doors and airbrakes on fuselage trying not to forget one. . Once that done will start on all the servo leads. Trying to get as much done whilst the fuz is in 2 halves. It will be a pain to move around when in one lump
Cheers Richard.

Rich

Any photos you have of air ram placements for the inner door and speed brakes would be V useful........don't see the point in trying to reinvent the wheel on the one here if you're example of a prooven setup.

Cheers

Phil

Here you go Phil.     I will call you in the morning. (please pm your number)
Cheers Richard.

Lovely....thanks Rich (PM sent)

Phil

Just been making up the fuel tanks. Done a fluid measure, can't believe it the 2 tanks hold 4.2 lts. Thats more than my L39. Thats good cause I can now use a bit more throttle
Cheers Richard.

Thats good cause I can now use a bit more throttle
Cheers Richard.

For most people 4.2 ltr's would probably be 5:30 minutes safe,
in your case it will probably be 4:30 minutes.  
But please don't change.  

I am looking forward to Os on Sunday.  

Regards Phil G.

For most people 4.2 ltr's would be probably be 5:30 minutes safe,
in your case it will probably be 4:30 minutes.  
But please don't change.  



Regards Phil G.

I will have you know I only fly my L39 half to 3/4 throttle most of the time and can manage 6.30mins with 3.5lts on a good day LOL  I think this F5 though Phil will be a bit more slippery though and I will have to use throttle management wisely
Richard.

Copy of motivation pics for you taken in the Swiss Alps 

Excellent pictures as usual Lozza.

What a bootiful  aircraft the F5 is,
very under modelled in my opinion.


Regards Phil G.

Lozza.. those pics are awesome!!

I seen them in the same place when i was skiing a few years back.. watching them in tight formation flying underneath me in the valley was something else.

Just for your information richard.. the take of speed on the model is quite quick.  This is due the real aircraft having an extenable noseleg to change the angle it sits at.. obviously the model doesnt have this

Chris

Thanks for the motivation Lozza, ace pics

Thanks Chris I may sit my noseleg on blocks to raise the nose a little to aid take off
Cheers Richard.

read on RCU donkeys ok that a bloke from the states done that and says it worked a treat.. a piece of 1/4 ply would probably do the trick.

We have a nice long runway so arent too bothered. but we have also went through two sets of tyres 

Chris

Hi folks,
Just a close up of the Scale cockpit . this just simply drops in.
Cheers Richard.

I will have you know I only fly my L39 half to 3/4 throttle most of the time and can manage 6.30mins with 3.5lts on a good day LOL  I think this F5 though Phil will be a bit more slippery though and I will have to use throttle management wisely
Richard.

I agree, Unless it is excessively heavy 4.2 litres with good throttle management should give you a lot more that this. I had about this volume in my Eurosport and set my timer at 8.5 minutes. Mostly I fly with a mixed throttle setting but some days I fancied a brains out day and gave it a damn good thrashing. I never ran dry. The best idea is to leave your timer as normal and the empty your tanks into a measuring jug to see how much you have left. Then you can get a better idea of how long you really have until Bingo time.

Added all the ceramic blanket and heat tape for protection ready for the 160 to be installed.

Nice job Richard, did the heat blanket come with the kit? as I need to purchase some for some of my F15 airframes.

Vince.

Coming along there Richard.  

...did the heat blanket...

I think you just made up a new product line mate!  

You can get blankets from the globetrotter > http://alshobbies.com/shop/lookupstock.php?pc=6344

Thats where mine came from:   Al's
I purchased my high temp tape from Tapes Direct in Bedford.
Richard.

Great airplane!

Here's a pic of mine. I get 5 minutes of flight with a Jet Central Rhino dial back.

Jed

Ooooooh, lights and 'chute, NICE

Can these toys be fitted to yours Pylon?

Ian.

Thats where mine came from:   Al's
I purchased my high temp tape from Tapes Direct in Bedford.
Richard.

That's the first time I've seen any mention of high temp tape Richard, so thanks for the info.  I'm new to internally-mounted turbines with a tailpipe. 

Is the aluminium tape applied directly on the fuselage skin inner surface, with the ceramic blanket wrapped round the tailpipe (presumably secured with a few loops or a spiral wrap of wire ??) or is there a layer of ceramic blanket beneath the alumn foil? 

If the latter, how do you secure the ceramic blanket to the fuselage?

My next jet will be all-wood with a MW44 exhausting through a Wren single-wall tailpipe, and I've been pondering the heat insulation requirements.  So any help will be very much appreciated 

Thanks

Gordon

I used Evo stik in an aerosol to stick my ceramic blanket to the fuz, then covered with my high temp self adhesive aluminium tape. This was purchased from Tapes Direct in Bedford.
Cheers Richard.

Thanks Richard   

Great airplane!

Here's a pic of mine. I get 5 minutes of flight with a Jet Central Rhino dial back.

Jed

Very Nice Great choice of scheme if I may say so.

Very Nice Great choice of scheme if I may say so.

Thanks,
Jed

Making good progress now. Fitted all the hardware to the wings tonight.

Looking good mate, I do like the F5
I look forward to seeing it fly.

Regards Phil G.