Topic: The D130...

Of course I haven't forgotten mate
Been practicing flying mode2 too

Ha ha good one Clayts... I have a mode 1 tx that I can set up for it as well. Just need to get around to it. Then you can have a go on any of my stuff.

Z

It is amazing to consider the range that the phrase 'RC Glider' covers. One of those tip joiners weighs the same as the first 15 planes in DLG event.
Amazing work. You look at the 130" span and think that it's not much bigger than an F3F and then you see the wing thickness, the fus size...
Remarkable. And it looks right somehow in the way that the 160 didn't - although that is probably in retrospect. Anyway fingers crossed for some good wind for Joe.

+1

Congrats, Joe, on another winner.

Maybe it should come with a poerful model heli, to transport it up our slopes.
Unless of course Clayts offer is universal....

Just downloaded the D130 video from YouTube. At 380mph it doesn't even look like its out of third gear. And stable? It looks like it has training wheels on.   

The Incredible Dynamic 130" Sailplane - 381mph Maiden

It only takes a Kinetic 3 laps to do that speed

The trash talk has started so its game on for the 2011 season.   
Any interest in running a book on the UK record by the end of the year?

It only takes a Kinetic 3 laps to do that speed

         Not on its maiden it did'nt 


                           Bob

The trash talk has started so its game on for the 2011 season.   
Any interest in running a book on the UK record by the end of the year?

What, on whether it will be more or less than half the US record?

Has anybody DS'ed a seriously large slope like Snowdon? Or with the wind backwards on the Wrecker?

What, on whether it will be more or less than half the US record?

Has anybody DS'ed a seriously large slope like Snowdon? Or with the wind backwards on the Wrecker?

hehe Yoyo ya cheeky chappie! it's already way more than half the US record! although granted that isn't exactly aiming very high 

Still, no need for talk... When she arrives we'll see 

Z

         Not on its maiden it did'nt 


                           Bob

  Depends what you are classing as a maiden.

Thanks for all the positive comments guys. This prototype needs more wind to get going. It was only blowing about 40mph for the maiden. A good 50+ should push it up into record speeds. Im building a lighter version that will go better on the light days and can be ballasted up for the record conditions. Stay tuned, we are just getting started with this model.

What, on whether it will be more or less than half the US record?

Has anybody DS'ed a seriously large slope like Snowdon? Or with the wind backwards on the Wrecker?

Go for it YoYo!
(And let us know how you get on )

As a note... I did a few laps with my RaceM Ultimate on the Back of Wrecker when the wind was on the Wrecker. Only managed 3 as that was back when I was just starting DS and I was even more rubbish than I am now. But there's definitely a shear and a kick. Terrifying slope to DS though - not for the faint hearted!! Sometime I'll do it again. A D80 would probably tear it up.

Z

Seem to remember that Mike Young DS Shane Biddlecombe's Ocelot on the BotW with some success. The front and back sides are so far apart (300m?) that it's probably more equivalent to a backside only slope rather than a ridge - but with the advantage of launch and height gain from the distant front side.

Steve

Just a note to you all - if anyone wants to get in on the incredible offer that Joe has put together for the D130 on the first batch, then you need to get in touch with me before the end of the week.

To recap, the offer is this:

D130= $2500
Build = $0 (yes Joe will build it for you for free on this batch only)
Batteries x 2 = $60
Servos = $700
Switches x 2 = $30

Total= $3290

You can take as much or as little of the above as you like. Obviously, going with the full package enables Joe to do the full build for you, which is for free!

Likely the price of a D130 going on from this batch will be somewhere between US$3000 to US$3500.

This is a good time to get in on one.

Payment plan available (sort of)  ! Just call me on 07595 417 727.

Z

and to give you an idea of the install... this is Joe's using the Hitec 2.4 system.


gEAR iNSTALL 003 by Sloperacer, on Flickr


gEAR iNSTALL 006 by Sloperacer, on Flickr


gEAR iNSTALL 035 by Sloperacer, on Flickr


gEAR iNSTALL 021 by Sloperacer, on Flickr


gEAR iNSTALL 026 by Sloperacer, on Flickr


gEAR iNSTALL 030 by Sloperacer, on Flickr


DSC04442 by Sloperacer, on Flickr

Bit of news on the D130... Joe has built another to refine his layup schedules prior to taking the tools out to the factory.

He has built a set of carbon joiners as well - these take 5lbs out of the weight of the model alone. But with the revised tail layup, and the use of balsa/ carbon laminates for the shear webs etc as per production models, these one comes in at 26lbs all up. That's a way down from the prototype at 43lbs with the aluminium joiners. However, he's likely to put a little more structure back into the production units, so he's expecting an all up for the proddy ones of 30lbs. Should be good for those thermic DS days on Rushup 

Still, though, given that the prototype got away no trouble in 40mph at 43lbs, this should work beautifully.

Zim

Easier to carry as well    looking forward to seeing yours flying soon 

Tom

Going to need serious moral support to chuck this puppy off!

Let us all know where and when, i def need to see the maiden !
Any idea where its first flight will take place? I presume it will be a BIG hill 

He has built a set of carbon joiners as well - these take 5lbs out of the weight of the model alone.

So by switching from alloy to carbon for the joiners he saved.. about the weight of my Acacia III. which is hardly a lightweight floater in it's own right.

I'm starting to see why this costs so much. It's the postage.

Going to need serious moral support to chuck this puppy off!

Can see it launching & DSing N.B.P. at (as you say) a thermic & blowy RE day, & rather better elsewhere.
But landing in less than about 25k might be a challenge?
Looking forward to the Zim demo with, no doubt, lots of support from the fraternity.

Had a bit of a Skype session with Joe last night, with him showing me the latest builds including the radar set up. Really heartening. Firstly, with the radar setup in there, the AUW empty will be around 34-35lbs. A bit part of this is due to the fact that with the radar horn in place, the nose weight is all carried only about half way between the wing and the front of the nose. So it needs quite a lot to balance. But the really cool thing is that it is all carried on a tray.

So I'm planning on making up two tray options - the first one will carry the radar and all the schizzle etc - as on the pics earlier in this thread. Also that setup carried the batteries under the wing. The alternative tray system will carry just the noseweight and batteries as far forward as possible, with no onboard radar. I'm hoping that this will allow me to get the model ready to fly closer to 30lbs. I'm pretty keen to fly it as much as possible, and of course the only way to guarantee this in the UK is to be sure that it will work in light conditions as well as heavy ones. So on days when there won't be any big speeds, I get to fly my model as much as possible to ensure that I get a good feeling with it and then when the speeds look like they might come on a bigger day, get the radar in there and don't have to point it at anyone when trying to get a lick on.

And here's the really cool piece of news - Joe's friend who is helping him with the radar thing looks to have come up with a low cost emitter (well under $400) which will read to well over 500mph. They are trialling it now. At the moment the D130 onboard radar system is a stripped out Stalker Pro II, which of course is the thick end of $1200 and especially considering that the install necessitates putting several pounds of lead right behind it just waiting for a shitty landing, needs careful thought and a deep breath before hitting the buy button.

The quality of the factory models so far looks superb. Can't wait. Not long now. Scheme-wise I'm thinking to just keep it simple - predominantly white, with the outer big stripe in bright orange, and the inner stripe in black. Underside, black stripes on white. Should work ok. Apparently visibility with a D130 isn't really an issue no matter what the scheme

Z

PS Oh and if they get some wind over there soon it should get interesting pretty fast, as there are now three very very good pilots with D130s ready to go - Bruce Tebo, John Buxton and Joe Manor. 500 is going to drop soon I think!

how do the install work with two switches, back to the topic?

Hey Tom

Basically it's just as it looks. Two switches, which then split into two output supplies each and then plug into the rx. So the plug in pattern to the rx is surface/power/surface/power/surface/power/surface/power/surface.

When I changed my D80 to Spektrum I ditched the Mpx battery backer circuit as I was changing the receiver and  just have the batteries plugged into two ports on the rx. Seems OK. I believe that Will's D80 runs a similar system since he built it, so it seems quite proven.

Z

Hey Tom

Basically it's just as it looks. Two switches, which then split into two output supplies each and then plug into the rx. So the plug in pattern to the rx is surface/power/surface/power/surface/power/surface/power/surface.

When I changed my D80 to Spektrum I ditched the Mpx battery backer circuit as I was changing the receiver and  just have the batteries plugged into two ports on the rx. Seems OK. I believe that Will's D80 runs a similar system since he built it, so it seems quite proven.

Without seeking to hijack the thread, just to mention FWIW that while it appears to be OK to plug two identical batteries direct into an RX, it may not be wise to deliver power in similar manner via regulators.
Something to do with high voltage spikes produced by servos which battery/ies act to dampen, but can only do so with direct connection to the RX.


Z

True enough Graham. All the servos used by the D130 are Lipo voltage, and so the 2 cell Lipos used in this install all run straight through unregulated.

Cheers!

Z

Can't wait for my D130 to arrive after hearing the comments at around 7:20 from Alex! Congrats to him btw - we need to get back up there with the colonials for sure.

New NZ DS Record 11/11/11

Colonials, Zim, what could you mean?
 

Fingers xed for the lads across the pond - Friday is apparently looking good for them... 4 x D130 ready and waiting with 3 of California's best pilots!

Z

Expect I'll be fun DSing at the same time (timezones apart), but also await news with much interest.

Hopefully, there'll be K100s too, for an initial performance comparison.

Expect I'll be fun DSing at the same time (timezones apart), but also await news with much interest.

Hopefully, there'll be K100s too, for an initial performance comparison.

I think that the chap who will give us the answer on that one is Bruce Tebo, as he has K100, K130 and D130. Also an extremely talented pilot apparently. Interesting times ahead!!

Z

When is yours due?

Joe is waiting on good conditions to wring out the two models from the first factory production to be sure that he does not want to amend the construction in any way i.e. he wants to go well over 400 with them and really wring them out with some pulls etc.

Once that happens, if Joe feels that it's all good, then the next batch gets made, and mine's in that. We're looking to Friday for this to happen, with a little luck 

Z

Hey zimbo,has that beast arrived yet mate?,we all need you to save uk ds

No but it's not far off mate. I'm an extremely unlikely candidate to save DS - I could barely put a circle together the other day at HH!!

But I heard a little birdie tell me that you had ordered up a K100? Then I see you selling the Opus and I'm thinking, what's Abbo got up his sleeve? C'mon mate, let us in on it!!

But anyway, yeah, I'll need to get out and do a bit of flying over the next few months before I'm in any kind of a position to try and go fast again. Been quite a long time away from flying regularly, and I'll tell you what mate, it REALLY really shows!!

Z

Quick update on this... Joe's received the shipment with my model in it. Going to be a while coming over though as he has to build two of the models in this delivery to come over in the same box. So it's looking like I'll receive it towards the end of May/ early June. But I've seen it on Skype - looks good - happy with the scheme!

Z

Joe's building them?
Whatever, I'd like to be there when they venture into the back.