Author Topic: Chester Goon (Read 15451 times)

Mudders · « **on:** March 05, 2011, 21:04:55 PM »

Aye up folks,

I am quite taken with this aircraft, does antone know of a plan, 1/3 - 1/2 scale would be perfect. I have had a google but not much joy apart from a peanut scale paper offering.

Cheers
Muds

CF-FZG · « **Reply #1 on:** March 05, 2011, 22:23:35 PM »

Hadn't seen that one before Mat

It'd look real nice at 1/3 scale - go well with my Pete, (when it gets built

)

steamysheep · « **Reply #2 on:** March 05, 2011, 22:24:48 PM »

'tis all i can find too...

http://www.airracinghistory.freeola.com/aircraft/Chester%20Goon.htm

Norfolk'n'Good · « **Reply #3 on:** March 05, 2011, 22:56:23 PM »

Oooooohh now I like that very unusual with retracts would possible be a booga to land with that narrow track.

idigbo · « **Reply #4 on:** March 05, 2011, 23:07:44 PM »

Ooooh, aint this purdy NOT!!
Me thinks the tundra tailwheel is a bad idea though

Ian.

steamysheep · « **Reply #5 on:** March 05, 2011, 23:17:00 PM »

Quote from: idigbo on March 05, 2011, 23:07:44 PM

Ooooh, aint this purdy NOT!!
Me thinks the tundra tailwheel is a bad idea though

Ian.

Wow, that 3 view is enough to draw up a good plan at 40 to 50% scale, what you think muds...

Mudders · « **Reply #6 on:** March 05, 2011, 23:53:25 PM »

Tis mate, but I would struggle to do it!

I might give it a go if I can't find anything ready scaled

steamysheep · « **Reply #7 on:** March 06, 2011, 14:37:54 PM »

Quote from: Mudflap on March 05, 2011, 23:53:25 PM

Tis mate, but I would struggle to do it!

I might give it a go if I can't find anything ready scaled

Hay, Mudflapperons..... I would be happy to spend some time developing that on a drawing board if you want, with your input on the construction detail we could have some plans to whatever scales you wanted knocked up over a weekend....

Mudders · « **Reply #8 on:** March 06, 2011, 18:50:22 PM »

Thanks Stu

Sounds like a good plan to me

Will be in touch

steamysheep · « **Reply #9 on:** March 06, 2011, 19:01:22 PM »

Love to help on this one... I have a better recordat drawing than I do buidling at the moment....

Perhaps Charlie C wil do the dangly bits too....

steamysheep · « **Reply #10 on:** March 07, 2011, 11:52:50 AM »

Now. If the full size is wing span at 18 ft. 6 in...

At 40% scale (or 2.5 to 1) would give a very reasonable 89"

steamysheep · « **Reply #11 on:** March 07, 2011, 11:55:03 AM »

At 40% scale (or 2.5 to 1) would give a very reasonable WINGSPAN 89"

AND A LENGTH OF 98"

Mudders · « **Reply #12 on:** March 07, 2011, 12:21:46 PM »

Looks like we're on

I like a challenge

steamysheep · « **Reply #13 on:** March 07, 2011, 12:54:40 PM »

So did Art Chester, he was killed in the Goon when it flicked rolled around a Pylon!

Mudders · « **Reply #14 on:** March 07, 2011, 13:28:54 PM »

I read he died as a result of a high speed stall, but I confess I don't really know what one of those is

.

Just out of interest Stu, What does it work out at 33%?

Muds

steamysheep · « **Reply #15 on:** March 07, 2011, 14:02:00 PM »

Quote from: Mudflap on March 07, 2011, 13:28:54 PM

I read he died as a result of a high speed stall, but I confess I don't really know what one of those is .

Just out of interest Stu, What does it work out at 33%?

Muds

33% is 73" span, 81" long...

How about 50%..... 111" Span and 123" long...

Spider Pig · « **Reply #16 on:** March 07, 2011, 14:02:23 PM »

That tail wheel is a ground handling aid, I think.

Mudders · « **Reply #17 on:** March 07, 2011, 14:25:13 PM »

Quote from: stueysheep on March 07, 2011, 14:02:00 PM

33% is 73" span, 81" long...

How about 50%..... 111" Span and 123" long...

That was my initial thought, but I can't be messin around with an over 40 scheme, especially for an unknown airframe/design.

Shall we stick to 40%?

steamysheep · « **Reply #18 on:** March 07, 2011, 14:49:55 PM »

Quote from: Mudflap on March 07, 2011, 14:25:13 PM

That was my initial thought, but I can't be messin around with an over 40 scheme, especially for an unknown airframe/design.

Shall we stick to 40%?

yes will do. When do you wanna book space on the Sheepy Drawing board, or you wanna go digital?

rcfanuk · « **Reply #19 on:** March 07, 2011, 15:19:14 PM »

Digital, then if you need to ajust the size it's easy

Steve

Mudders · « **Reply #20 on:** March 07, 2011, 15:30:05 PM »

Quote from: stueysheep on March 07, 2011, 14:49:55 PM

yes will do. When do you wanna book space on the Sheepy Drawing board, or you wanna go digital?

Is digital an option? Can you do CAD stuff stu? Might have to go 50/50.
Still need to sort the U/C details $:-\$

Norfolk'n'Good · « **Reply #21 on:** March 07, 2011, 15:56:08 PM »

Stuey if you can CAD I would very much like a days tutorial to get me started and I don't mind putting my hand in my pocket and shedding silver. I can read as much as I like but take little in but if I'm shown.......... different matter

Charlie C · « **Reply #22 on:** March 09, 2011, 19:07:53 PM »

Quote from: stueysheep on March 06, 2011, 19:01:22 PM

Love to help on this one... I have a better recordat drawing than I do buidling at the moment.... Perhaps Charlie C wil do the dangly bits too....

Sorry peep's I missed this one.

Gimme a drawing and I'll sort it.

CC

Mudders · « **Reply #23 on:** March 09, 2011, 23:10:19 PM »

Quote from: Charlie C on March 09, 2011, 19:07:53 PM

Sorry peep's I missed this one.

Gimme a drawing and I'll sort it.

CC

Lol, a drawing

Cheers Charlie, I think I'll have to design it from scratch, I just have a few photo's for reference, once the plans materialise, I should be able to work out something

Mike Deans · « **Reply #24 on:** March 10, 2011, 09:31:24 AM »

Hi,
This may be of some small interest, but very nearly at the end of the "article" is a three view of the "Goon".

Mike

http://www.fiddlersgreen.net/models/aircraft/Chester-Goon-Racer.html

Mudders · « **Reply #25 on:** March 10, 2011, 12:41:55 PM »

Thanks Mike,

I have that one and I think we'll be using that as a basis to draw up the 'biggy'! It seems best as it has the most stations to scale from

Mud

Greg_S · « **Reply #26 on:** March 10, 2011, 13:09:18 PM »

Beautiful aeroplane, mud will you be doing a build thread

Greg

Norfolk'n'Good · « **Reply #27 on:** March 10, 2011, 13:13:16 PM »

Quote from: Greg_S on March 10, 2011, 13:09:18 PM

Beautiful aeroplane, mud will you be doing a build thread

Greg

I hope so

I could almost be persuaded to build one myself as long as it comes out under 20kg and have a 3W75 that could be taken from my Little Toot that may suit.

Mudders · « **Reply #28 on:** March 10, 2011, 13:22:53 PM »

Quote from: Greg_S on March 10, 2011, 13:09:18 PM

Beautiful aeroplane, mud will you be doing a build thread

Greg

I would think so, but it probably won't be anttime too soon, I got loads of existing projects to get done first

Mud

steamysheep · « **Reply #29 on:** March 10, 2011, 22:14:38 PM »

Quote from: Norfolk'n'Good on March 07, 2011, 15:56:08 PM

Stuey if you can CAD I would very much like a days tutorial to get me started and I don't mind putting my hand in my pocket and shedding silver. I can read as much as I like but take little in but if I'm shown.......... different matter

Hi Shaun.... Not yet able to CAD... but willing to learn. May do a half and half here, use pencil for most of it but use cad or profili for the 'foils as they are all reducing in all diections...

Mudders · « **Reply #30 on:** March 10, 2011, 22:26:28 PM »

Did you print off a drawing yet Stu?

idigbo · « **Reply #31 on:** March 10, 2011, 22:28:11 PM »

Following ou phone conversation, looking at the 3 view, I wouldn't reduce the number of ribs Flapp, there aint that many in there anyhoo

Ian.

Mudders · « **Reply #32 on:** March 10, 2011, 22:37:42 PM »

Quote from: idigbo on March 10, 2011, 22:28:11 PM

Following ou phone conversation, looking at the 3 view, I wouldn't reduce the number of ribs Flapp, there aint that many in there anyhoo

Ian.

Fair doos, was just a thought, having looked a bit closer, I think I can manage 20

steamysheep · « **Reply #33 on:** March 10, 2011, 22:38:44 PM »

Quote from: Mudflap on March 10, 2011, 22:26:28 PM

Did you print off a drawing yet Stu?

Just stepped off the train Muds...... will have some grub and then looksee.

Mudders · « **Reply #34 on:** March 10, 2011, 22:52:34 PM »

I printed it out in A3, that gives me a drawing with a w/s of 9", 40% of the fullsize is 90" (can you see where I'm going here) so I have a 1/10 scale drawing of the final model size (this is the drawing with 4 fus stations btw) so scaling for the final size drawing should be quite straight forward (but I'm probably missing something here, I struggled to this point!)

Mud

steamysheep · « **Reply #35 on:** March 10, 2011, 22:55:16 PM »

Quote from: Mudflap on March 10, 2011, 22:52:34 PM

I printed it out in A3, that gives me a drawing with a w/s of 9", 40% of the fullsize is 90" (can you see where I'm going here) so I have a 1/10 scale drawing of the final model size (this is the drawing with 4 fus stations btw) so scaling for the final size drawing should be quite straight forward (but I'm probably missing something here, I struggled to this point!)

Mud

all you need to do now is get a 1/10 scale drawing of a Z62 and see how it fits!

Mudders · « **Reply #36 on:** March 10, 2011, 23:01:44 PM »

Thats easy, tony clarks catalogue has dimmed drawings, just downloding it now

Mudders · « **Reply #37 on:** March 10, 2011, 23:18:49 PM »

Hmm, wont fit, I'll have to look for a slimline jobby to suit.

Anyone got any thoughts on a suitable airfoil section to use?

Mud

steamysheep · « **Reply #38 on:** March 10, 2011, 23:23:22 PM »

http://www.mvvs.cz/docMVVS/MVVS58.pdf

Mudders · « **Reply #39 on:** March 10, 2011, 23:31:32 PM »

I found a super scale drawing, but the res is not good, have a look..

http://www.daisey-designs.com/nx13688/goon/goon.htm

Mud

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