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Reply #80
Offline SteveBB wrote Re: Repairable? on December 01, 2011, 12:57:11 PM
You're seriously into this crash and repair game aren't you? I thought I had some mileage, but you make me look as if I'm only messing about.  :ev

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Reply #81
Offline pilot_jimbo wrote Repairable? on December 01, 2011, 13:16:58 PM
You're seriously into this crash and repair game aren't you? I thought I had some mileage, but you make me look as if I'm only messing about.  :ev
You fly, you crash. @@@@ happens.
Might as well try and get em back in the air.
As I get more experienced, the models get added ballast, which helps.
Tbh the acrostar and psycho were probably too good/fast a plane for my ability at the time. Pity as they are both excellent planes but very different in their own right.
It's a learning curve.

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Reply #82
Offline pilot_jimbo wrote Repairable? on December 01, 2011, 14:00:17 PM
Here she i ready for gluing.

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Reply #83
Offline pilot_jimbo wrote Repairable? on December 01, 2011, 18:43:27 PM
Pic would help.
Two carbon bandages, for the two breaks. Will place on outside of fuze.

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Reply #84
Online satinet wrote Re: Repairable? on December 01, 2011, 18:44:41 PM
would a carbon rod work rather than a snake?


Reply #85
Offline pilot_jimbo wrote Repairable? on December 01, 2011, 19:25:49 PM
Maybe. What linkages would you suggest? I'd need some way to attach the piano wire end to tje carbon rod. 3mm?

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Reply #86
Offline pilot_jimbo wrote Repairable? on December 01, 2011, 21:45:05 PM
First break is bandaged. Used lam epoxy and the pipe provides the internal strengthener. Looks pretty straight from where I am.

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Reply #87
Offline pilot_jimbo wrote Repairable? on December 02, 2011, 10:00:34 AM
Second break is bandaged -see pic.
Will leave both now for a 24hr cure.
Next job, redo the push rods, need to source suitable items.
I also need to start getting a daily newspaper, I'm going through it fast.

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Reply #88
Online satinet wrote Re: Repairable? on December 02, 2011, 10:07:36 AM
Second break is bandaged -see pic.
Will leave both now for a 24hr cure.
Next job, redo the push rods, need to source suitable items.
I also need to start getting a daily newspaper, I'm going through it fast.

I was just thinking of say a 5 or 6mm piece of carbon tube with a rod glued in and a clevis on the end. Depends what the bell crank looks like. Obviously you need as a straight run from the servo to the bell crank.



Reply #89
Offline chrispy wrote Re: Repairable? on December 02, 2011, 10:13:08 AM
You may be familar with this method which I have found works fine:

http://www.windandwavemodels.com/Repair.html


Reply #90
Offline pilot_jimbo wrote Repairable? on December 02, 2011, 10:22:55 AM
Thanks chrispy. That is an interesting way to repair. Nice one. I'll try that on my next fuz break (hopefully not for a while).

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Reply #91
Offline pilot_jimbo wrote Repairable? on December 02, 2011, 10:24:44 AM
I was just thinking of say a 5 or 6mm piece of carbon tube with a rod glued in and a clevis on the end. Depends what the bell crank looks like. Obviously you need as a straight run from the servo to the bell crank.
I'll take a look at the run after the cure. Can't do much more today so will head over to the pimple for some big air --- not ----

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Reply #92
Offline pilot_jimbo wrote Repairable? on December 03, 2011, 09:08:20 AM
Well, psycho is now avaiailable in
Carbon layup. :)

It's come out well. Epoxy is quite thin and smooth. Almost good enough to paint straight on.

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Reply #93
Offline pilot_jimbo wrote Repairable? on December 03, 2011, 15:59:42 PM
Wings are sorted. Have gone with new red/black/white go faster livery.
Here she is.

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Reply #94
Offline pilot_jimbo wrote Repairable? on December 03, 2011, 16:03:30 PM
As a special treat she is having a new coat of shiny white too.

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Reply #95
Offline pilot_jimbo wrote Repairable? on December 04, 2011, 16:30:28 PM
Paint finished. Need to sort out the linkages now.

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Reply #96
Online satinet wrote Re: Repairable? on December 04, 2011, 16:47:28 PM
what i meant by a carbon pushrod is a hollow tube with a clevis extender or pushrod (etc) glue in to both ends. The clevis attaches to the hole in the bell crank. Pretty simply, but pretty effective.


Reply #97
Offline pilot_jimbo wrote Repairable? on December 04, 2011, 16:59:25 PM
Do you mean put a snake in the tube? Or the whole rod moves. I may go with a snake I got a good tip for attaching them today.

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Reply #98
Online satinet wrote Re: Repairable? on December 04, 2011, 17:06:11 PM
There whole rod moves. Common way of moving a crank. Works fine.


Reply #99
Offline Yoyo wrote Re: Repairable? on December 04, 2011, 17:06:36 PM
Do you mean put a snake in the tube? Or the whole rod moves. I may go with a snake I got a good tip for attaching them today.

The way it was done in my FFish was the whole rod moving - literally just a hollow rod going the length of the plane, with a short length of threaded pushrod glued into each end for fittings. In the FFish it was the full length of the fuse long, servo arm to elevator horn, unsupported. That was with a 4mm rod with a 2mm hole, and it was plenty strong enough. When it finally piled in nose first, the inertia of rod+elevator shoved it forward hard enough to bend the front pushrod to a 'U' shape but the rod and joints were still solid.

Needless to say there was no slop at all from clevis to clevis (with locknuts fitted), it was only in the clevispin/horn hole and from the servo itself.
 

Oh, hang on - it isn't 'fly it like you borrowed it, land it like you stole it', is it!
So that's where I've been going wrong...

Reply #100
Online satinet wrote Re: Repairable? on December 04, 2011, 17:18:18 PM
I would glue the clevis at the hidden end.


Reply #101
Offline pilot_jimbo wrote Repairable? on December 05, 2011, 13:43:55 PM
Well I had a look around for some wire inside pushrods. Holy cow. 8.99 a pop. I can forget that. So I'm going to repair the old rod with an epoxy/brass sheath and some old sheathing I had lying about.

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Reply #102
Online satinet wrote Re: Repairable? on December 05, 2011, 16:55:28 PM
well it is only the elevator...........  :P


Reply #103
Offline pilot_jimbo wrote Repairable? on December 05, 2011, 17:24:00 PM
Yep. Well I need rudder as well so it's 2 off. Plus 8 quid postage since tje won't bend up. Forget that.

Piano wire, brass tube and epoxy worked well. I'll use tje magnet on side wall tip to position tje snakes then epoxy them to tje fuz sides at intervals down tje fuz. Using old sheaths from old plastic snakes.

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Reply #104
Offline pilot_jimbo wrote Repairable? on December 05, 2011, 19:16:29 PM
Dry run Done. Will epoxy/cyano tommorrow.

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Reply #105
Offline pilot_jimbo wrote Repairable? on December 07, 2011, 15:23:19 PM
Carbon Psycho is ready for maiden.

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Reply #106
Offline pilot_jimbo wrote Repairable? on December 10, 2011, 14:52:23 PM
Pic of the tail end. Will tape it up to minimise drag a bit.

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Reply #107
Offline pilot_jimbo wrote Repairable? on December 12, 2011, 09:33:47 AM
15mph SW. Can feel a re-maiden coming on at the pimple with the psycho.

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Reply #108
Online satinet wrote Re: Repairable? on December 12, 2011, 10:06:27 AM
Pic of the tail end. Will tape it up to minimise drag a bit.

I would put the cut out back on and glass it.


Reply #109
Offline pilot_jimbo wrote Repairable? on December 12, 2011, 10:49:30 AM
I reckon she must be about 6-8 oz heavier.
Should be even quicker and stop like she's hit a barn door with flaps on.
When are you swopping over to mode 1 so I can have a go on the Vxe? You started on it yet?

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Reply #110
Offline pilot_jimbo wrote Repairable? on December 14, 2011, 15:24:23 PM
Well I'm chuffed. Remaidened the old girl today. Wind abt 25mph.
Pleased to report she flew the dogs. Straight as a die, faster, yet once crow was deployed, it was a revelation. She stopped dead, nose dropped slightly and she just nudged down into the slope.
Roll rate also unaffected. Thermal flap still an escalator.
Sweet.

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