Topic: What to do when it rains....Go into the workshop an start on the next project

Car was loaded ready for a days flying, went inside to make sarnies for  lunch, came back out to the car with flight bag....it was raining...sod it.
So into the workshop:-
Next on the list is a refurb of my Telos.... some of you might remember the build thread, an then the big fire an the Telos was salvaged.
I had put it away an intended to clean it up, repaint it an fly it again. I got it out a couple of weeks ago and horrors the heat had started to delaminate the wing skins (1/64 ply over 200gm carbon)....not worth cleaning. The decision was made new flying serfaces were needed, off to see the Timinator, he cut me a nice new set of cores. Today I started on it, wings are now bagged with PU glue using 1/64 ply, not going to use carbon this time, going to try an keep it light,
Some photos of the fire damage

Photos of the cores an the old wing

I will take some photos of the bagged wings tomorrow, Rocket Ronnie came around today an watched/helped with the bagging, I think he was impressed how quick they can be done using PU glue.
I think such a futuristic fuz needs some special tips on the wings...watch iths space

Just went out the shop, a photo of the skinned wings

Hi Brian,

I don’t know how you manage to find the enthusiasm for all this building, but keep it up.   

After talking with you & rocket the other week I realised it must be eight years since I skinned a wing, long overdue for the next one so got some new templates made.

Just put it in the bag, my first time with PU, will have to see what it looks like later tonight.

This is just a test so made with white builders foam and some very old obeche  veneer, all a bit crappy.  Where do you get your 1/64” ply. I need some long sheets for the proper wing.

Beenie

Hi Brian,

I don’t know how you manage to find the enthusiasm for all this building, but keep it up.   

After talking with you & rocket the other week I realised it must be eight years since I skinned a wing, long overdue for the next one so got some new templates made.

Just put it in the bag, my first time with PU, will have to see what it looks like later tonight.

This is just a test so made with white builders foam and some very old obeche  veneer, all a bit crappy.  Where do you get your 1/64” ply. I need some long sheets for the proper wing.

Beenie

Hi Dave, building is better than watching Carp on the TV, also I get cheap toys that way 
1/64 ply came from model shop in Wakfield, next to Morrisons. Only sizes they have are 1'x4' £20 a sheet. Tuckers has just got some epoxy board/sheet same thickness, a lot cheaper an I think you can get it bigger than 4'. Might be the way to go.
Keep up the good work an enthusiasm

Well it rained again today, got to the slope late morning, Ronnie an I had a fly for about 10 mins, then it started, we sat in the shed until 2pm, then got soaked walking to the car.
Ended up in the workshop :-
Cut out the servo bays, then laminated some wing tips 1/4 balsa outsides, with a filling of 200gm carbon an 1/32 ply. These are now a basic shape ready for fitting
Some photos

Showing how the tips are recessed into the wing ready for epoxy

Rain again today...so into the shop...faced up the servo bays with 1/64 ply, stuck the tips on. Cut myself some hardwood leading edges an stuck them on...waiting for the epoxy to dry...next a lot of sanding.

With our weather you project will be finished sooner than you think.

With our weather you project will be finished sooner than you think.

Might well do...rain again today. Great for modeling not much good for work in the garden.
 

Rain again today....so....
Got my little plane out and attacked the tips an leading edges, a quick sand down after that- sorted an looking good.
Used a hot wire on the foam for the servo leads
Then made up a small compression block for the wing retaining bolt, cut out a couple of holes to fit an joined the wings together.
Whilst waiting for that epoxy to dry, removed all the old paint off the Fuz, using Ldil best thiners.
Added wing joining tape with laminating epoxy...needs 24 hrs to go off. Might have a bit of a rest from it tomorrow, think SHMBO has some jobs lined up for me 
Some photos

Making sure the wings didnt move whilst they were joined, an the stripped fuz.

Not much done this eve, Club night. I did manage to glue in the front wing retaining dowles before I went. Next to glass the wings.

I've been a tad slow on this for the last couple of days SHMBO has had me working  .
I have added some filler between the new wing and the Fuz to get a good fit (different foil) I've sanded it down now ready to glassed the wings.
There will be another delay to this project as a flap horn on my Vector came adrift today (hangar rash)   :banghead:even though the wings were in the bags. So that will need to be fixed next

Finished the SHMBO project today (roof on one of the outbuildings) so managed to glass the bottom of the wings, need to speed this project up.

Wings glassed, Ailerons cut out an faced with 1/64 ply, wing cut out also faced.
Whilst waiting for the wings to dry I started to make the mechanism for the all moving canard.
Next make up the servo mounts in the wing servo bays, should be able to make a start on that tomorrow.

Wings finished an ready for some paint...Just blown over one side with a light coat of primer filler.

Started on the canard...boxed in some 4mm sq tube in balsa for joiner tube, marked up the foam cores an cut to fit joiner tubes. Cut an shaped some 1/32 end ply plates, then glued up with epoxy
some photos
Dry fit to test, then drying an taped to bench

Canard bits in the vac bag at the moment sticking the ply to the cores 

Things have been getting done. Canard halves and fairings have been finished and glassed, drying at the mo.
There was a need to move the canards so I came up with an idea...square drive shafts, with square joiners (sq carbon tube with a steel rod insert through it)
I have installed sq brass tube in the canard halves (4mm inside) and made up an actuating jig out of epoxy board and some bearings, lots of playing about to get it right.
I needed a control arm to move the tube, so I made one out of an old hinge.
Some photos of the actuating jig

The control arm

The jig installed

More photos tomorrow of the canards an fairings when the glass is dry.

Photos of the canards an fairings. The fairings are not load bearing, just there so that the canards have a flat surface to work against. Since the photos I have sprayed them with primer filler

Computer started to play up before I posted these.

An update...all sprayed up.
Canards working ok....fitted a standard size digital servo
Silicone hinges on the ailerons drying at the mo.
Need to add some colour to the top side, bottom finished.

Sevo driving the canards

  Brian that is truly inspirational.
I wish I could do things manually as well as that.
I would love to see this fly in person. it is an odd looking model, and I don't think pictures do it justice.
Is the canard Strong? ie would you fly it anywhere or only where you know you have unobstructed landings like un-tufted grass.

congrats on another good build, and thank you for sharing it on this quite form.

Brian that is truly inspirational.
I wish I could do things manually as well as that.
I would love to see this fly in person. it is an odd looking model, and I don't think pictures do it justice.
Is the canard Strong? ie would you fly it anywhere or only where you know you have unobstructed landings like un-tufted grass.

congrats on another good build, and thank you for sharing it on this quite form.

Thanks for the complement. Its nice to know that others are interested.
Yep the canards are strong, when I used to fly it before the fire I used to fly at most of the local slopes, never had a prob.
The beauty of the canard is that you can slow it down so much for landing, it doesn't stall that easily.
The down side is that its near impossible to loop it.
I drew up a paint job design for the wing and Fuz this evening, but I have run out of mask film. Will get some tomorrow, then throw some more paint at it

That's a terrific looking machine Brian. It looks good just standing still. Having now seen your other designs fly, I'm really looking forward to being around when that one gets chucked off Tinkers. .. ..

Ro.

Thanks, silicone hinges on the ailerons turned out ok. I'm going to cut the masks for the top colour this evening, an spray tomorrow. Then its only to fit aileron servos, rx, battery an some church roof to ballance.
Should make its maiden on the weekend 

Just back in from the workshop....Drew an cut masks, took less time than I thought. I sprayed the canards an started to spray the wings, then rattle can ran out, not a prob thought I....until after giving the can a good shaking, started on the spray....Different colour a light orange came out instead of the day-glo orange  ...lots of shaking an still the same colour  ....back to Halfords tomorrow for a replacement can. All I hope is that the film mask wont start to lift.

Some photos... the Day-glo doesn't come out very well in the photos, but will give you an idea of the design. Second photo is the part sprayed 2 colour wing 

Hey Brian
What day glow orange are you using?
Never seen any at our local small Halfords. the reference would be good.
I don't like orange, but find it very practical on a model.

Hey Brian
What day glow orange are you using?
Never seen any at our local small Halfords. the reference would be good.
I don't like orange, but find it very practical on a model.

Will photograph the can tonight an get reference number

Hey Brian
What day glow orange are you using?
Never seen any at our local small Halfords. the reference would be good.
I don't like orange, but find it very practical on a model.

Hi, couple of photos of the Orange Day-glow rattle can, can't see any reference

Went an got a new can today, mask didn't lift so did the spray job.....But when the paint was dry an I lifted off the film,it left most of the sticky stuff on the wing...I have spent most of the evening cleaning it off, what a pain
I have sprayed it all over with clear lacquer, just need to outline the orange with a permanent marker, to improve its definition. Hope you all like the paint job
couple of photos of where I'm at...

Very Nice Brian ,
                  You wont miss that flying around , Ive had to put my Sunny's on 
                                         Always an Impeccable Job Mate 


                                     Bob

Bob thanks for the kind words 

Aileron servos installed an connected, I need to make up a battery pac an ballance the toy....then its off on its maiden....this weekend if the wind gods are with us 

Looking good Brian

One thing though, in England we normally finish the word "And" with a "d" 

Hello Boys - I'm BAaaaaaaaaaaack!

Tim

Whose PC died on Saturday 

Blimey Brian!  You certainly turned the volume up to eleven on that one eh? .... 

I think she looks the business. .... 

Ro.

Looking good Brian

One thing though, in England we normally finish the word "And" with a "d" 

Hello Boys - I'm BAaaaaaaaaaaack!

Tim

Whose PC died on Saturday 

Getting fussy Tim  oh and Ta for the looking good 

Blimey Brian!  You certainly turned the volume up to eleven on that one eh? .... 

I think she looks the business. .... 

Ro.

Nice an bright 

Its finished ready for the maiden 

Looks great ,best of luck 

Looks great ,best of luck 

Thanks.
 Had a little play with it in the workshop today, because I wasn't happy with the canards....There was some slop. I decided against using the carbon joiner and opted for a square brass one, less flex. I then soldered a piano wire rod inside the brass tube to give it some strength, there was still some slop, I cured this with some cyno...sorted.
Adding this extra weight in the front resulted in decreasing the lead required to obtain the CoG to 10gms.
Build in lightness thats what I say.
A photo taken outside today trying to show the Orange in its true Day-Glo colour....camera refused. Must read the manual

Took it to the slope yesterday, cameras were ready, plugged it in ...dead. Thought it might have been the battery. In the workshop discovered nowt wrong with battery, dead RX... :banghead:bu**er it was a new spectrum RX. Took one out of another toy an now all working again.
Big prob, today its light rain and mist, so no flying. 

Hi Brian Friday afternoon is looking perfect for a maiden
I'll be there for 2 ish
Ronnie

Hi Brian Friday afternoon is looking perfect for a maiden
I'll be there for 2 ish
Ronnie

Hi Ronnie, sorry mate can't do it, Have to pick boys up at 3:15. Hope for Saturday