Topic: For those that think japanese transmitters have loads of menus

I dont want to hijack the other thread but there was this post from BrianB

I guess the biggest difference for a Fut/Jr user attempting to adjust something on an Evo would be the way the menus are structured. With an Evo you go directly to where you want to be without scrolling through menus you don't want. Plus there is more than one way to implement adjustments on an Evo, and that could cause confusion to "non" users.

I dont understand the menus I dont want?

I switch on the TX and it looks like this.....



If i want to reverse a servo I click the list button once and use the roller to scroll to the reverse switches function...



I click once then scroll to the reverse switch i require.  The switch names are automatic and vary depending upon what functions you tell the tx you have in setup.



Pressing the enter button gets back to the main screen.

Is it possible to to get any simpler?

CM

yes, turn transmitter over, remove battery case, flick switch

Don't even try to prove a point mate, they are as bad a Jehovah's witnesses. You might as well bang your head against the wall

try inviting a plex user to your field, it confuses the hell out of them 

This is the problem with "my TX is better than yours" Clive, we get used to the TX (and menus) we use and anything else is odd/difficult to get your head around, you just have to accept that those that choose different to you will always wonder why you can't understand them?......

Andy..........

My old 9Zap was excellent, 3 button pushes and you could be in any parameter you wanted. I do find the DSX9 tedious and limited in comparison but it supports DSM2 @ 2048.

on my Dx6i to get to the servo reverse you, press the scroll button, which brings up the adjust list, you then scroll down to the set up list and select, then you scroll down to the reverse list and select, then scroll to the servo you want to reverse and select then change the direction and select. Then hold down the scroll button to go back the main screen.

My old 9Zap was excellent, 3 button pushes and you could be in any parameter you wanted. I do find the DSX9 tedious and limited in comparison but it supports DSM2 @ 2048.

I loved my zap too, superb programming (you know what they will tell us now!) and on sheer number of buttons its a winner! shame mine went tu and started binning my models lol

CM

I've been biting my tongue for a little while now .... but now I feel I need to let it all out!

I've been following the "New Profi" threads and quite rightly some folk getting excited about it.  I have to say though, to me it looks cheap and rather tacky and plasticky for what is a pretty expensive radio when all's said and done.  I presume you have to love Multiplex with an almost blinkered approach to everything going on around you to appreciate its finer points but frankly it leaves me cold as Ice.

I do like some of the technology and "nice little touches" but it looks to me like they've developed a sleek, shiny sports car and are doing everything possible to make it look like a truck!  Even in "thumbs mode" it looks like a block of plastic to me and I fail to see anything aesthetically pleasing about it but, then again, beauty must be in the eye of the truck driver I suppose.

If it floats your boat, good luck to ya but I think if I were Multiplex I might just give the technology to the Italians or Japanese to apply some styling to it!

There I said it.  Sorry chaps but I couldn't praise the emperor on his new clothes any longer.

I've been biting my tongue for a little while now .... but now I feel I need to let it all out!

I've been following the "New Profi" threads and quite rightly some folk getting excited about it.  I have to say though, to me it looks cheap and rather tacky and plasticky for what is a pretty expensive radio when all's said and done.  I presume you have to love Multiplex with an almost blinkered approach to everything going on around you to appreciate its finer points but frankly it leaves me cold as Ice.

I do like some of the technology and "nice little touches" but it looks to me like they've developed a sleek, shiny sports car and are doing everything possible to make it look like a truck!  Even in "thumbs mode" it looks like a block of plastic to me and I fail to see anything aesthetically pleasing about it but, then again, beauty must be in the eye of the truck driver I suppose.

If it floats your boat, good luck to ya but I think if I were Multiplex I might just give the technology to the Italians or Japanese to apply some styling to it!

There I said it.  Sorry chaps but I couldn't praise the emperor on his new clothes any longer.

And as a MPX user, I'm inclined to agree with you entirely Wiz. The thing is; so far is the software appears to me at least to be very vague and not an advancement on the P4000 (Lets's ignore the EVO for one minute; as the software in those is different again to the 4k)

The craving for a replacement to the much admired (by those who used it) p4000 was much anticipated. MPX like all other manufacturers have kept their cards close until very close to it's public airing. MPX don't seem to have actually said what it can do, or more importantly how it does it; saying only that the current software is work in progress (suggesting to me at least that if the response thus far is negative on the few snippets is concerned, they may re-write it).. But how can  anyone reach an informed opinion unless they do say what it can do and how it can do it? More importantly; can they absolutely say with certainty it's as good as or better than the P4000, which the hype implies it is replacing. If it's not as good ( read:any switch/lever/doofer can operate any mixer(s) that in turn can operate any channel or combination of all the lot, plus all the parameters that can be introduced) then they've shot themselves in the foot. They might have been better off not suggesting it's a p4000 replacement, and instead a totally new model, and distance it from the past line ups. Only my opinion, and hopefully I will be proved entirely wrong.

Doc: re: servo reversing.... menu...digi adjuster turn to servo (1-7)...turn to either centre (%) travel (%) or reverse (0 or 1) click, exit, job done. (MPX tx  )

Well, if you want complicated, try a Fleet Omega.
Mike

I've been biting my tongue for a little while now .... but now I feel I need to let it all out!

I've been following the "New Profi" threads and quite rightly some folk getting excited about it.  I have to say though, to me it looks cheap and rather tacky and plasticky for what is a pretty expensive radio when all's said and done.  I presume you have to love Multiplex with an almost blinkered approach to everything going on around you to appreciate its finer points but frankly it leaves me cold as Ice.

I do like some of the technology and "nice little touches" but it looks to me like they've developed a sleek, shiny sports car and are doing everything possible to make it look like a truck!  Even in "thumbs mode" it looks like a block of plastic to me and I fail to see anything aesthetically pleasing about it but, then again, beauty must be in the eye of the truck driver I suppose.

If it floats your boat, good luck to ya but I think if I were Multiplex I might just give the technology to the Italians or Japanese to apply some styling to it!

There I said it.  Sorry chaps but I couldn't praise the emperor on his new clothes any longer.

If they had put the software into a Jr style case with the layout and the sticks 10 years ago then lets just say I would have been an MPX tx owner for 10 years.

CM

Wiz your thoughts are the same from pretty much every non MPX user I know. We all appreciate what their radios are capable of, but I never did believe in the old adage of "you don't look at the mantelpiece when you're poking the fire"

Agreed.

I think the concept of fitted cupboards on a TX could catch on, one on each side and a built in sandal rack and you have somewhere to keep your beard clippers, copies of the watchtower and somewhere to keep your spare footwear, every M*l*i*l*x users dream transmitter then. Especially if they add a bit of wood vaneering!!      The software is purely secondary! 

If they had put the software into a Jr style case with the layout and the sticks 10 years ago then lets just say I would have been an MPX tx owner for 10 years.

Doc - if you can't work out how to reverse a servo on an Evo I'd stay well clear of a P4000 because you'll NEVER get to grips with it!

PDR

Doc - if you can't work out how to reverse a servo on an Evo I'd stay well clear of a P4000 because you'll NEVER get to grips with it!

PDR

Gawd tedium tedium.... you know theres nothing I have never been able to get to grips with, if i had one I would probably be the best profi programmer there has ever been 

Once you know that you need to go into servo calibrate to reverse a servo I imagine its very easy!

CM

Ive never got my head around multiplex programming.... god you have to go to the' servo button' to reverse a servo and to switch the transmitter off the 'on/off button'.!! 

Ive never got my head around multiplex programming.... god you have to go to the' servo button' to reverse a servo and to switch the transmitter off the 'on/off button'.! 

That maybe so, but i look at Sachin Tendulkar and i want an adidas cricket bat.  I look at phil mickelson and i want callaway golf clubs, i look at Ronaldo and I want Nike cricket boots.  I look at ali maxin his jets and i want a top of the range spectrum shiny tranny.  I look at a glider guider flying f3f with a profi 4000 10 flight phases 8 launch modes and grip and ping and I think.... Christ i'm bored, why have i walked up this hill in the cold to watch this Carp! 

Come on then chaps, lets get some profi programming photo's up!

CM

i look at Ronaldo and I want Nike cricket boots. 

CM

 

i look at Ronaldo and I want Nike cricket boots.

   Even I know he's a Racing Driver.................. 

That maybe so, but i look at Sachin Tendulkar and i want an adidas cricket bat.  I look at phil mickelson and i want callaway golf clubs, i look at Ronaldo and I want Nike cricket boots.  I look at ali maxin his jets and i want a top of the range spectrum shiny tranny.  I look at a glider guider flying f3f with a profi 4000 10 flight phases 8 launch modes and grip and ping and I think.... Christ i'm bored, why have i walked up this hill in the cold to watch this Carp! 

Come on then chaps, lets get some profi programming photo's up!

CM

I think you've mixed up two different classes there Doc... Slope and flat field, winch launch..and slope isn't boring if it's done with gusto..Flat field isn't really (for me) spectator fodder, but very satisfying for those who do; catching thermals (scale ships) and flying for longer than ten minutes , and then having to refuel.

I think you've mixed up two different classes there Doc... Slope and flat field, winch launch..and slope isn't boring if it's done with gusto..Flat field isn't really (for me) spectator fodder, but very satisfying for those who do; catching thermals (scale ships) and flying for longer than ten minutes , and then having to refuel.

I'd go along with that. I did a lot of sloping back in the early 80s, but I have to say that as a participant sport thermalling was always more intense and more challenging - watching every little movement of the aeroplane to decide whether it's lift or sink, looking for signs of good and bad air, fighting my way back up to specked-out heights from 50 feet etc. The first time I broke the 60 minute barrier from a bungee launch was a real rush. If I was to sink back into the depravity of gliderism I think it would be with DLG (F3K), which has to be the purest form of flying.

But I also agree that as *spectator* sports the flat-field gliding classes make drying paint need a warning for those of a nervous disposition.

PDR

If I was to sink back into the depravity of gliderism I think it would be with DLG (F3K), which has to be the purest form of flying.

PDR

Do it,, go on Pete, do it... Resistance is dielectric...I mean futile.

DLG (F3K), which has to be the purest form of flying.

PDR

Never - F/F gliders are the purest - no interference from humankind once they are set free.
Mike.

Never - F/F gliders are the purest - no interference from humankind once they are set free.
Mike.

"There is no god but F/F - and DLG is its prophet"...



But I'd suggest that DLG is the purest form of flyING, whilst FF was the purest form of flight

PDR

I loved my zap too, superb programming (you know what they will tell us now!) and on sheer number of buttons its a winner! shame mine went tu and started binning my models lol

CM

LOL I love the story of how the 9zap went tu - truly great! Come to think of it - they're probably no good for coastal fliers in that salty sea air 

As for me, I have to say that I agree that there is nothing that comes anywhere near JR's case quality and feel of stick. By far the best by a mile. But I also have the feeling that the programming on the A9 has a lot more to offer than I have to date been bothered to find out.

Z

i don't like JR and Spekkys feel of the stick, i don't want to feel it.
i can actually feel the precise engineering that went into making it such a snug fit and i don't like that

"There is no god but F/F - and DLG is its prophet"...



But I'd suggest that DLG is the purest form of flyING, whilst FF was the purest form of flight

PDR

Agreed!!
Mike