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Level 1 => RC Flight Chatter => Topic started by: e-flite_rules on August 13, 2019, 11:03:47 am

Title: Recommendations pls for an electric powered trainer
Post by: e-flite_rules on August 13, 2019, 11:03:47 am
I'm looking to buy a communal trainer for our club.  Our current ones are most antiquated and use something called glow engines for power.

We need to move into the 21st Century and get something that newbies can identify with - electric.

I'm thinking 3S 2200 mAh. 

I like foam as it's tough and easy to repair.  However balso is still an option.

So recommendations please!

Thx C
Title: Re: Recommendations pls for an electric powered trainer
Post by: paulinfrance on August 13, 2019, 11:18:04 am
It sounds like you want to go back to childhood, battery powered plastic toys,,

Are you looking for a powered glider or a real plane ?,,,
Title: Re: Recommendations pls for an electric powered trainer
Post by: Gaspin on August 13, 2019, 11:53:20 am
Why would you not purchase a Wot 4; easily the most mentioned model on here in the last 15 years. Either foam or the real thing they all fly great.
Title: Re: Recommendations pls for an electric powered trainer
Post by: RobC on August 13, 2019, 14:23:57 pm
Yes, a Wot4 foamie or a Riot.  Me?  I'd go for the Wot4 out of the two.  If you went up to 4S 3-4000 then you get up to conventional wood trainer type power.  My ARTF Wot 4 flies a treat on 4S so I'd imagine any 40 size trainer would do just as well on that size pack.
Title: Re: Recommendations pls for an electric powered trainer
Post by: PDR on August 13, 2019, 15:29:28 pm
A great model, but not really suited to a basic trainer IMHO. I'd avoid the foamy route because it will probably look tired very quickly, and someone will be forever repairing the U/C after those early "what do you mean 'flare'??" landings. Personally I'd build a good old Super 60 and put a cheap 5s setup in it. Bigger size = more weather-tollerant = more flying, more robust etc etc.

PDR
Title: Re: Recommendations pls for an electric powered trainer
Post by: itsme on August 13, 2019, 17:37:08 pm
For foam, the ST Models Discovery is the best I have seen. Built up trainer kits seem to have gone crazy in price lately. The best ever trainer was the Irvine Tutor, not sure if they are still available, and would require a 4s setup.
Title: Re: Recommendations pls for an electric powered trainer
Post by: SMF on August 13, 2019, 17:55:31 pm
ST Models Dicovery.
Title: Re: Recommendations pls for an electric powered trainer
Post by: PDR on August 13, 2019, 19:54:12 pm
Meant to add - there's a chap at our field learning to fly with a Seagull Arising Star, converted to electric with (I think) a 4s4000 setup, and it behaves just like the Yamamotos of the golden era. It's big enough to fly in most weathers and its traditional wooden structure is very robust. I see it has a smaller brother (the Seagull Jumper) which looks similar, and should be just as effective on a 3s3000 setup with (say) 400watts.

If I was looking to teach someone up to solo standard that's the sort of thing I'd choose. The foamies have their place (I love my wot4 foam-e as a general hack), but too many basic training accidents would just shred it and that could be terminal for the interest of a newbee.

PDR
Title: Re: Recommendations pls for an electric powered trainer
Post by: itsme on August 14, 2019, 08:19:45 am
Quote from: PDR on August 13, 2019, 19:54:12 pmMeant to add - there's a chap at our field learning to fly with a Seagull Arising Star, converted to electric with (I think) a 4s4000 setup, and it behaves just like the Yamamotos of the golden era. It's big enough to fly in most weathers and its traditional wooden structure is very robust. I see it has a smaller brother (the Seagull Jumper) which looks similar, and should be just as effective on a 3s3000 setup with (say) 400watts.

If I was looking to teach someone up to solo standard that's the sort of thing I'd choose. The foamies have their place (I love my wot4 foam-e as a general hack), but too many basic training accidents would just shred it and that could be terminal for the interest of a newbee.

PDR
The Discoveries are not too bad in the longevity area, they are used at the RCHotel as a trainer, as well as a general sports model, and seem to withstand a lot of abuse. I am very impressed with those, and they fly on a bog standard 3s. I agree they do look a bit battered quite quickly.
Title: Re: Recommendations pls for an electric powered trainer
Post by: Marcol on August 14, 2019, 19:14:21 pm
ST Discovery all day long
Title: Re: Recommendations pls for an electric powered trainer
Post by: ATSA2 on August 14, 2019, 22:06:21 pm
FMS Super EZ...foamie, but very tough...
Title: Re: Recommendations pls for an electric powered trainer
Post by: Gaspin on August 16, 2019, 09:49:38 am
On reflection, you could buy two HK Tundra's ready to go for the price of one the above lot. Cheap, stable and electric, try it with the u/c off for the first few goes and on a 4s set up.
Title: Re: Recommendations pls for an electric powered trainer
Post by: itsme on August 16, 2019, 11:06:19 am
Tundra is more expensive than the Discovery.  :co https://www.servoshop.co.uk/index.php?pid=RIPASTM110&area=Aircraft it is also a more complicated model, with flaps and struts, not ideal for a first trainer.
Title: Re: Recommendations pls for an electric powered trainer
Post by: FrankS on August 16, 2019, 23:40:52 pm
We've had 2 newbies gain their A certs with the HK Tundras, surprisingly robust and repairable, undercarriage is quite forgiving. Flaps are not really required.