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Level 4 => 3D Printers => Topic started by: paulinfrance on February 11, 2020, 16:45:35 pm

Title: 3 d look alike pilots
Post by: paulinfrance on February 11, 2020, 16:45:35 pm
So with all these cheap printers, :co  is no one on this site got a scanner or is capable of scanning photos to print look alike pilots ,; :study:
Title: Re: 3 d look alike pilots
Post by: flynn on February 12, 2020, 10:27:10 am
3D scanners do exist. The last time I had a go at one the results were 'less than perfect', and I decided that life was too short to persist with it. You would be better off 3D printing a pilot with a flat face and cutting up a photo to stick on it.......
Title: Re: 3 d look alike pilots
Post by: paulinfrance on February 12, 2020, 10:44:28 am
A shame it's stopped, this is one of our locals, Alain FERROUL.jpgFerroul_Alain.jpg
Title: Re: 3 d look alike pilots
Post by: itsme on February 12, 2020, 10:55:39 am
my mate is in the late stages of printing an EDF Super Sabre. It has all the detail you could wish for, is VERY light and super strong. Even the retracts, wheels, everything are printed. Its around 5 feet length. I dont see a pilot would be any problem. Its just getting the files.
Title: Re: 3 d look alike pilots
Post by: paulinfrance on February 12, 2020, 11:31:32 am
The images that I posted were from a firm that scanned photos,,
Title: Re: 3 d look alike pilots
Post by: pooh on February 12, 2020, 14:11:42 pm
A pal of mine had a 3D professional quality scanner, snag is it cost about £20K as I recall...

but it would scan a full-size car in sufficient detail to make a copy!
Title: Re: 3 d look alike pilots
Post by: paulinfrance on February 12, 2020, 14:40:11 pm
Quote from: pooh on February 12, 2020, 14:11:42 pmA pal of mine had a 3D professional quality scanner, snag is it cost about £20K as I recall...

but it would scan a full-size car in sufficient detail to make a copy!

My mug isn't that big, but maybe as ugly,,

I have seen in model shows where they scan objects including faces and cut ? them out of resin blocks,resin.png

 I asked him if he would scan me and sell me the file, but it didn't interest him,, ( typical French )
Title: Re: 3 d look alike pilots
Post by: ace on February 14, 2020, 14:58:38 pm
At the Nationals "Scale me down" did me and am very happy with the result. Only seem to have a facebook page and no website.
Not 3d printed, could be etched with a laser from a solid block ?. Very light and hard.  :af
Title: Re: 3 d look alike pilots
Post by: Pat M on April 03, 2020, 07:44:58 am
What about Real Model Pilots...........http://realmodelpilots.co.uk/epages/54b61a4d-8f75-4f18-8833-03c2078eb64e.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/54b61a4d-8f75-4f18-8833-03c2078eb64e/Categories/Category3
Title: Re: 3 d look alike pilots
Post by: paulinfrance on April 03, 2020, 09:07:30 am
Quote from: Pat M on April 03, 2020, 07:44:58 amWhat about Real Model Pilots...........http://realmodelpilots.co.uk/epages/54b61a4d-8f75-4f18-8833-03c2078eb64e.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/54b61a4d-8f75-4f18-8833-03c2078eb64e/Categories/Category3


 Thanks, I just rang him he is VERY helpful ( it is so nice to hear a helpful Englishman ) I will be sorting some out with my modelling friends,,
Title: Re: 3 d look alike pilots
Post by: paulinfrance on April 08, 2020, 09:15:26 am
Pilot size.jpgHelp,,, I am not getting much movement from them in their mails,,

So can we cut to the chase ?,,,

Is it possible to see a picture of the front of pilot, N° 2305 and just make a head and shoulders of it,

Head and neck 'A' 6cm

Shoulders 'B' 3cm

Giving a total of 9cm.

Then I can always trim the body off to fit in me planes,

I can't give him an accurate scale size as my planes sizes are as follow,,

ME 109 1/6th scale, head and shoulders 7cm
P 40  1/7th scale  Head and shoulders 9cm
P 47 1/1.75 scale  Head and shoulders 8cm

I want an unpainted one,

 Has anyone got a picture of this one , and sizes please ?.
Title: Re: 3 d look alike pilots
Post by: paulinfrance on June 08, 2020, 13:54:09 pm
Well a bit slow but I eventually the two ( same size ) Pilots  arrived today, :'' I don't think that they really look like me ( spot the major difference  :o  ) but they are nice looking,  and the quality of the painting is exceptional. what do you think ?.
enclosed the original picture sent .Paul  1-2048.jpgDSC00582-2048.jpgDSC00585-2048.jpg
Title: Re: 3 d look alike pilots
Post by: meharibear on June 08, 2020, 14:18:53 pm
A perfect likeness if you ask me!
Title: Re: 3 d look alike pilots
Post by: THE BLACKBIRD on June 08, 2020, 15:08:07 pm
The pilots got his own teeth ;D
Title: Re: 3 d look alike pilots
Post by: paulinfrance on June 10, 2020, 10:41:38 am
He wants £80 for the file  :-\

 so maybe a mould ?. :study:
Title: Re: 3 d look alike pilots
Post by: paulinfrance on June 11, 2020, 16:36:03 pm
That's it, I bought the silicone to make a mould, anyone interested ?,
or do I just ramble on on my own in my workshop ?.Pilot for moulding.jpg
Title: Re: 3 d look alike pilots
Post by: PDR on June 11, 2020, 17:55:27 pm
Why would I want an ugly old codger like that in my models? It would scare the lift demons away!!

:)

PDR
Title: Re: 3 d look alike pilots
Post by: FlyinBrian on June 12, 2020, 08:00:57 am
Why would I want an ugly old codger like that in my models? It would scare the lift demons away!!

I had one of these done a few years ago at, IIRC, the Nats. Mine is also unused for  that very reason.
Title: Re: 3 d look alike pilots
Post by: paulinfrance on June 12, 2020, 08:42:41 am
Quote from: FlyinBrian on June 12, 2020, 08:00:57 amWhy would I want an ugly old codger like that in my models? It would scare the lift demons away!!

I had one of these done a few years ago at, IIRC, the Nats. Mine is also unused for  that very reason.

A friend had one done and I expected it to be as good,,

as posted earlier,,
Title: Re: 3 d look alike pilots
Post by: paulinfrance on June 13, 2020, 13:35:47 pm
I made the mould yesterday I measured 450ml of liquid to fill the 'box = 750 gms of siliconePilot silicone pouring.jpg[attach id=252991]

 I used my fret saw to chase out the bubbles.
Title: Re: 3 d look alike pilots
Post by: paulinfrance on June 14, 2020, 08:30:04 am
I cut around the silicone unevenly to make it easier to match up and it came out well,the liquid mix it yourself is the price of gold dust  :-X ,so I have looked around at pu in spray cans but it is difficult to find what is real brown pu,  the last lot I got was  white crap :-\  (is that politically correct ? ), I have some old polyester resin and microballons so I will try that out.mould cut in half.jpg
Title: Re: 3 d look alike pilots
Post by: PDR on June 14, 2020, 09:05:16 am
Good stuff!

At the risk of teaching you to suck eggs - make sure your "polyester" is actually casting resin not laminating resin (ie resin for doing fibreglass). Laminating resin has a lot of accelerator in it to help it get hot enough to boil off the styrene solvent in thin films, and if you let it cure in thick lumps it goes into thermal runaway (either catching fire or forming a charred lump) because it can't dissipate the heat. Casting resins have much less accelerator in the mix. 

PDR
Title: Re: 3 d look alike pilots
Post by: paulinfrance on June 14, 2020, 11:29:28 am
Quote from: PDR on June 14, 2020, 09:05:16 amGood stuff!

At the risk of teaching you to suck eggs - make sure your "polyester" is actually casting resin not laminating resin (ie resin for doing fibreglass). Laminating resin has a lot of accelerator in it to help it get hot enough to boil off the styrene solvent in thin films, and if you let it cure in thick lumps it goes into thermal runaway (either catching fire or forming a charred lump) because it can't dissipate the heat. Casting resins have much less accelerator in the mix. 

PDR

Yes thanks I do know, but the information is relevant for beginners,, so I didn't do a 'hot mix',, :co
Title: Re: 3 d look alike pilots
Post by: paulinfrance on June 14, 2020, 18:27:25 pm
Old resin  ???  so after 2 days of curing it was still a bit sticky, :embarassed:  so polyurethane moulding resin ordered this evening.
Title: Re: 3 d look alike pilots
Post by: paulinfrance on June 17, 2020, 14:39:22 pm
Two pilots.jpg[/attach]Well Micro balloons and a bit of FG mulch to keep it together isn't the way to go, I have ordered some Polyurethane moulding foam,, meanwhile I will be painting them,,
Title: Re: 3 d look alike pilots
Post by: paulinfrance on June 19, 2020, 08:24:06 am
I took the crunch and lashed out 18€ on a kilo of Polyurethane moulding resin,, A good decision, first one out of the mould with the mould 'flash' and cleaned up.pilot cleaned up.jpg
Title: Re: 3 d look alike pilots
Post by: paulinfrance on June 21, 2020, 17:55:44 pm
I would like to announce the retirement of my P 40 Pilot, he did a stunning job braving the enemy French pilots ( an easy job ) and downed a few of there planes, even in my absents the 4th Seagull D 520 went in yesterday in our club,,  ::)
However not an easy pair of boots to fill, but I will do my best,,  :uk: P 40 pilot.jpg
Title: Re: 3 d look alike pilots
Post by: PDR on June 21, 2020, 18:27:22 pm
Your P40 pilot has the character appearence of a former Lightning F6 pilot - and indeed one who has had to eject from  a lightning F6. You can always tell - their legs are cropped off just above the knees...

PDR
Title: Re: 3 d look alike pilots
Post by: meharibear on June 21, 2020, 21:38:57 pm
Similar to the navigator in a Canberra then?
Title: Re: 3 d look alike pilots
Post by: PDR on June 21, 2020, 21:59:38 pm
They've nothing to complain about - they're much better of than the radar operator in a Sea Vixen's coal hole...

PDR