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Surprise, surprise

Started by Michael_Rolls, November 17, 2017, 14:28:17 pm

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Michael_Rolls

I;m sure that we all remember how scrapping paper tax diss was going to save the DVLA money - £10m a year according to the Guardian, £5m a year according to the Telegraph. One small problem. As many people, including myself, forecast the number of untaxed vehicles would rise. Sure enough it - apparently it has tripled, representing a loss to the Exchequer in excess of £100m per annum. Doesn't sound too bright an idea - but then, it was dreamed up by politicians.
As I understand it, you can't tax a vehicle that isn't insured. Does the reverse apply? If so that means a lot more unisured drivers on the road.
Mike
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SteveBB

You don't need either tax or MOT to insure a vehicle. But if a police car equipped with ANPR pings it, the cop will know if it has any or none of them.  All three (plus the name on the V5) are stored on the police data base.
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Michael_Rolls

Steve
Thanks for that. Hopefully those who decide to dodge tax will at least take out insurance. ANPR is fine as far as it goes, but it does depend upon where you are. Up here I could drive for hundreds of miles without any danger of seeing a camera, either fixed or in a police car, and I assume that the same must be true in other rural areas.
Mike
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itsme

Quote from: Michael_Rolls on November 17, 2017, 19:22:58 pm
Steve
Thanks for that. Hopefully those who decide to dodge tax will at least take out insurance. ANPR is fine as far as it goes, but it does depend upon where you are. Up here I could drive for hundreds of miles without any danger of seeing a camera, either fixed or in a police car, and I assume that the same must be true in other rural areas.
Mike
Exactly what we said at the time Mike. They don't live in the real world. I think.in an accident third parties would be paid but you can kiss your comprehensive insurance goodbye. You won't get paid.

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Michael_Rolls

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itsme

I think I mentioned originally that I used to see community police officers going around council estates I was working on checking tax discs and calling in trucks to remove untaxed vehicles. Now they are relying on ANPR cameras in police cars (who really dont have the time anyway) to pick them up, just avoiding the ANPR in towns means you are unlikely to be caught. I would have though that smart motorways or any average speed camera would spot these and send a fine through the post, but I have not heard of this happening.

Kevin Fairgrieve (NSS)

Here is a little game we play at work.

A vehicle pulls up outside. Note the registration.

Then go to https://vehicleenquiry.service.gov.uk/

You may or may not be surprised at the results.

Kev


itsme

Quote from: Kevin Fairgrieve (NSS) on November 18, 2017, 09:12:34 am
Here is a little game we play at work.

A vehicle pulls up outside. Note the registration.

Then go to https://vehicleenquiry.service.gov.uk/

You may or may not be surprised at the results.

Kev
Love it. All the ones in our street are ok. I'm going to be a right busybody now.... :ev

paulinfrance

Quote from: Kevin Fairgrieve (NSS) on November 18, 2017, 09:12:34 am
Here is a little game we play at work.

A vehicle pulls up outside. Note the registration.

Then go to https://vehicleenquiry.service.gov.uk/

I just had a dig around on Google and put in some older car Numbers, and they don't seem to work, as does my French ones, so
on Holiday in Britain next year i will come over in my French numbered car and F***k the Police !

You may or may not be surprised at the results.

Kev
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Andy J

I've bought 2 secondhand cars though dealers since the 'new' system was introduced neither have asked for my insurance certificate, prior to the 'new system the dealer needed my insurance details to tax the vehicle.
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