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Re: *NEW* HobbyKing EFX Racer
« Reply #40 on: October 07, 2014, 07:32:45 AM »
I'd love to see it up against a Gonzales  :study: :study:

I still have the motor and esc from mine  :)

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Re: *NEW* HobbyKing EFX Racer
« Reply #41 on: October 07, 2014, 20:53:09 PM »
I'd love to see it up against a Gonzales  :study: :study:

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I didn't realise you'd built a Gonzo!  The thought had crossed my mind to draw a fuselage around the 4S 1800 battery pack, then slap a low wing on the bottom of it.

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Re: *NEW* HobbyKing EFX Racer
« Reply #42 on: October 07, 2014, 22:57:02 PM »
The HobbyKing Rare Bear will show it a clean pair of heels. ;)


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Re: *NEW* HobbyKing EFX Racer
« Reply #43 on: October 08, 2014, 13:31:12 PM »
anyone thinking the only thing wrong with the EFX was it's release date?? probably 2-3 months late.
it could of been this summers huge seller, like the old days of shows where everyone you saw had the odd shaped box of a pico jet tucked under their arm.

their gonna sell more than they can ship over, but i feel they missed out on the "craze" oppertunity
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Re: *NEW* HobbyKing EFX Racer
« Reply #44 on: October 08, 2014, 17:19:28 PM »
Yup.  Mine should arrive tomos - just in time for the sh!te w/end weather that's forecast!


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Re: *NEW* HobbyKing EFX Racer
« Reply #45 on: October 08, 2014, 17:47:20 PM »
test fly down ours, looking sunny and 10-15 mph for the weekend
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Re: *NEW* HobbyKing EFX Racer
« Reply #46 on: October 08, 2014, 19:21:24 PM »
They've sold out of the yellow ones.........  :'(


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Re: *NEW* HobbyKing EFX Racer
« Reply #47 on: October 08, 2014, 20:12:31 PM »
And thanks to this thread I have just ordered a red one!
Will be ready to go on Sunday if the weather is ok :xx

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Re: *NEW* HobbyKing EFX Racer
« Reply #48 on: October 08, 2014, 21:16:49 PM »
Good man Diz, I assume cuff won't be far behind
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Re: *NEW* HobbyKing EFX Racer
« Reply #49 on: October 09, 2014, 11:18:25 AM »
Personally I don't think HobbyKing have done too bad with the release date of the EFX as both the international and European warehouses are completely out of stock with minimal red versions available in the UK. However, If you check their web site you'll see that more yellow ones are in transit to the European hub so it seems they're restocking fairly quickly. Considering when it was first made available I would say it's been a roaring success, just like the Durafly 'Das Ugly Stik', which I also have. ;)

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Re: *NEW* HobbyKing EFX Racer
« Reply #50 on: October 09, 2014, 13:08:33 PM »
think you missed the last line of my post about the release date  :''
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Re: *NEW* HobbyKing EFX Racer
« Reply #51 on: October 09, 2014, 13:53:24 PM »
Any chance one of you good chaps who has one of these might find the time to measure up the battery compartment or post a pic of or both  :-*  :)

I quite fancy getting the airframe only version and seeing what it will take  :ev

But no point if there's not the battery space

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Re: *NEW* HobbyKing EFX Racer
« Reply #52 on: October 09, 2014, 15:47:59 PM »
Good man Diz, I assume cuff won't be far behind
He won't get one Phil............it has a propeller  :ev

I am relying on it being delivered tomorrow so I can assemble and test it whilst I am in covering w/e sim work on Saturday.  Then I'll be able to get up North Cliffs on Sunday before lunch; forecast I have just seen giving overcast with 5kt easterlies in the morning.
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Re: *NEW* HobbyKing EFX Racer
« Reply #53 on: October 09, 2014, 16:17:35 PM »
have a look on hobbyking at the 40c 3 cell Zippy pack. that fits snug with around 20mm spare length in the bay. however if you can drop the height by about 3-4mm you can then push it into the motor mount ( same dimetion as the older 20c 3 cell Zippys ) which gives you another 10mm or so.

as for what it'll take we've already had flutter on the 4 cell version, probably from the floppy undriven side of the elevator, an easy fix.
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Re: *NEW* HobbyKing EFX Racer
« Reply #54 on: October 10, 2014, 20:25:44 PM »
Got mine yesterday and assembled it last night.  The fit and finish is really good - wing is impressively stiff. 

Minor niggles:

1. Hatch doesn't fit neatly (which detracts from the good fit of everything else)
2. Ball links = PITA.  It was easier to unscrew the balls, press them in separately, then screw them back on the horns.  Next time HK, press the balls         in and just give us the screws in a bag - much easier.
3  Aileron linkages are very clumsy - I'll be replacing these with something a little more refined and adding a fairing over the top.
4. 4S LiPos + leads are a very tight/awkward fit.

After setting it up last night, I powered up with a fresh LiPo at the field today and found the elevator servo had gone solid.  (looking on the bright side, at least it didn't happen in the air...)  Swapped the rods over (rudder on the duff servo, locked off) and flew.

I managed to run through 3 batteries between showers.  The 1800 LiPo gave 3 minutes at full bore; the 2000's about 5 mins using the throttle.It flew very nicely but I didn't feel it was going particularly fast.  HK's 'doppler' App clocked it at 105mph average.

TBH I've got to say I'm a bit underwhelmed (but the duff servo has probably coloured my judgement).  Jury's out on 'keeper'.

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Re: *NEW* HobbyKing EFX Racer
« Reply #55 on: October 10, 2014, 20:57:46 PM »
you can get a 4 cell 2200 nanotech in it
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Re: *NEW* HobbyKing EFX Racer
« Reply #56 on: October 10, 2014, 21:07:12 PM »
I just got the Zippys they had in stock because in another feat of logistics, HK managed to run out of LiPos as they ramped up their stocks of EFX.  Anyway, it's reasonable to assume that any LiPo meeting the wider spec (i.e. 4S 1800mAh) should fit.


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Re: *NEW* HobbyKing EFX Racer
« Reply #57 on: October 10, 2014, 21:34:44 PM »
in respect to your stiff balls.... you did note the links have a large side and a small side didn't you?? they only push in from one side.
it'd be nice if the aileron and servos horns actually lined up, but it's good enough to work ok.   

the hatch latch does need a trim wih 4s to let it sit right. being tidy with the wires when you plug in also helps
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Re: *NEW* HobbyKing EFX Racer
« Reply #58 on: October 11, 2014, 15:56:54 PM »
in respect to your stiff balls.... you did note the links have a large side and a small side didn't you?? they only push in from one side.
it'd be nice if the aileron and servos horns actually lined up, but it's good enough to work ok.   

the hatch latch does need a trim wih 4s to let it sit right. being tidy with the wires when you plug in also helps
Interesting point.  I snapped them on in the orientation they came out of the box.  Some certainly snapped on easier than others.  All the more reason for HK to snap the balls in place and bag the screws for us to install.

Re hatch, I intend to trim and line with thin ply or a couple of 'starbucks' sticks - the hole in the underside is another weak point.

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Re: *NEW* HobbyKing EFX Racer
« Reply #59 on: October 11, 2014, 17:06:17 PM »
Well mine didn't turn up today so change of plans and back to my trusty e-flite Sea Fury for the time being.  However, it does mean that I'll be able to incorporate any lessons identified by you chaps when I do get to rig it  :af

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Re: *NEW* HobbyKing EFX Racer
« Reply #60 on: October 11, 2014, 17:22:58 PM »
Is the plane 1, 2 or 3 piece?  ie does the wing come off for the transport and is the wing itself 2 part?

BTW From what I can see/read it looks like the "kit" version is just as built as the PNP one except for the addition of the ESC, motor & servos.  Not forgetting the stickers!  Anyone actually have the kit version?

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Re: *NEW* HobbyKing EFX Racer
« Reply #61 on: October 11, 2014, 18:55:21 PM »
The wings remove with 2 screws. It is one piece.
The tail will 'unclick' and remove with a bit of fiddly faffing.

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Re: *NEW* HobbyKing EFX Racer
« Reply #62 on: October 11, 2014, 19:09:29 PM »
Thanks,

If it doesn't have them already I'll try and install some blind nuts into the fuzz rather than rely on tapped holes into wood.  They're not exactly robust against frequent assy/disassembly.

As for taking tail off.....  I think not!  That'll be glued firmly in place.

Ordered the kit 10 minutes ago.  So it should be here Thursday ish.  Which'll mean Friday by the time I've collected it from the ParcelForce depot where it'll end up.  That's the one 12 miles away rather than the one that's just down the road.  Don't ask me how ParcelForce work that one out!

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Re: *NEW* HobbyKing EFX Racer
« Reply #63 on: October 11, 2014, 19:56:36 PM »
No need to glue the tail feathers IMHO, the mechanical 'click' together design is fine. They are captive nuts for the wing fitting, which also work fine. It really is surprisingly good quality for a HK jobster  :af

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Re: *NEW* HobbyKing EFX Racer
« Reply #64 on: October 11, 2014, 21:14:12 PM »
once on the plane i was surprised how easily the tail unclicked, so it's glued.
i also need to reduce my elevator still further, inner hole next, full elevator sees the loops resemble 50ps as the wing stalls, makes a hell of a noise tho as the air flow unattaches from the wing!!

tho those disappointed so far, pay close attention to your c rating. i've got a new 40c 3 cell pack and it'll keep up with a 20c 4 cell. i tried my year old 25c pack today and it wasn't great, i then tried a 20c pack which i had considered to be my best in my other toys, i thought it was flat.
i did get 6 good mins of sport flying tho.

this thing sucks amps, make sure you can supply them
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Re: *NEW* HobbyKing EFX Racer
« Reply #65 on: October 12, 2014, 00:45:42 AM »
The 2000 4S I used were 45C, brand new first flights in this plane.  I assume more is to be had if you can get the recommended 65C Nano-techs.

I found the tail halves needed some effort to get apart, so have no fears for them staying together on the plane.  If you find them coming apart then maybe you hadn't pushed them fully home?  I'm keeping mine demountable, because if it ain't a keeper, it has to go back in the box...

PS - throws per manual.  Motor is relatively quiet - most noise appears to be airframe and a few patches and fairings may help that
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Re: *NEW* HobbyKing EFX Racer
« Reply #66 on: October 12, 2014, 13:02:30 PM »
first couple of flights on my pack wern't much either, they need to be woken up it seems
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Re: *NEW* HobbyKing EFX Racer
« Reply #67 on: October 12, 2014, 13:33:53 PM »
Fo sho

I'm steeling myself now to deal with HK's warranty/returns procedure.  (They want a video of my non-working servo...)

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Re: *NEW* HobbyKing EFX Racer
« Reply #68 on: October 12, 2014, 15:12:26 PM »
I've been very fortunate so far in my sixty odd dealings with HobbyKing, entirely hassle free.  But my favourite was when they asked someone for a photo of the items that were missing from their parcel.  ;D

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Re: *NEW* HobbyKing EFX Racer
« Reply #69 on: October 12, 2014, 21:27:06 PM »
I'm steeling myself now to deal with HK's warranty/returns procedure.  (They want a video of my non-working servo...)

send them  a photo  ;D

as for HK running out of packs now I have one I know what will and won't fit, and HK underestimated what'll work.
So to that end i've got some more on order ( as the 40c i have is the only one thats any good for the EFX )
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Re: *NEW* HobbyKing EFX Racer
« Reply #70 on: October 15, 2014, 19:02:08 PM »
Am wondering what the current draw is because based on the claimed endurance figures the packs shouldn't be that stressed................or the flight times are exaggerated  :''

Anyone put a wattmeter on it yet? 

My EFX has arrived, but I donít have all my gear with me during the week so I am unable to check myself.

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Re: *NEW* HobbyKing EFX Racer
« Reply #71 on: October 15, 2014, 20:51:24 PM »
apparently it's 41A
4 mins with a 4 cell and 6 with 3?
little difference from what i can tell
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Re: *NEW* HobbyKing EFX Racer
« Reply #72 on: October 15, 2014, 21:28:44 PM »
Grabbing a handful..........

41 amps out of a 2200mAh pack would last 3 minutes max, not 6 and is ~ 18.6C
41 amps out of the 1800mAh 4S is about 2.5 minutes max and ~22.8C

If you allow for the act that you don't empty a pack then the endurance would drop further.  From my EDF stuff I appreciate that with a higher C rating the voltage wont drop so much, you will get more ooomph and therefore use less current for the same result, but you won't double the time.
Not that I'm really that worried because I think it's a pretty cool looking model and can't wait to get it in the air  :)


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Re: *NEW* HobbyKing EFX Racer
« Reply #73 on: October 15, 2014, 21:40:25 PM »
Last time I charged my 2200 pack I put 2400 back in. Pretty good. So as promised the other packs. Hobbyking zippy 2800 30c matches the nano tech 2200 45c for amp output at 99a. Also fits with 5mm spare height and 2-3 mm spare width. Allowing for plugs 10 spare length. Only 12 quid too.
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Re: *NEW* HobbyKing EFX Racer
« Reply #74 on: October 15, 2014, 21:41:49 PM »
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« Reply #75 on: October 15, 2014, 22:00:48 PM »
Must admit that I haven't got around to sizing up what will/won't fit yet, but that 30C pack seems a good  option thanks

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Re: *NEW* HobbyKing EFX Racer
« Reply #76 on: October 15, 2014, 22:10:33 PM »
He won't get one Phil............it has a propeller  :ev

I am relying on it being delivered tomorrow so I can assemble and test it whilst I am in covering w/e sim work on Saturday.  Then I'll be able to get up North Cliffs on Sunday before lunch; forecast I have just seen giving overcast with 5kt easterlies in the morning.

Have had a look at them as there are a couple flying in my local club, do not really float my boat though. Bought a Freewing Me262 a couple of weeks ago and have been flying that.




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Re: *NEW* HobbyKing EFX Racer
« Reply #77 on: October 16, 2014, 00:12:50 AM »
......................... Bought a Freewing Me262 a couple of weeks ago and have been flying that.

Must be time to sell it on then  :ev :nananana:

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Re: *NEW* HobbyKing EFX Racer
« Reply #78 on: October 16, 2014, 10:53:30 AM »
those wheels have to be scuffed by now!
I know you believe you understand what you think i said, but i am not sure you realise that what you think you heard is not what i meant.

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Re: *NEW* HobbyKing EFX Racer
« Reply #79 on: January 06, 2015, 12:48:58 PM »
Anyone adding weight ti the nose? I've had to add a little as the battery pack won't go as far forward as it looks like it could... but looks the same position as others here... my pack is a couple mm smaller than the quoted one so I assume everyone is adding weight??


 

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