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Howard Metcalfe F15, Help Required..
« on: September 03, 2007, 09:24:37 AM »
Picked up my latest Ebay bargain yesterday, a Howard Metcalfe F15. One of those models I have always wanted, but have been out of production for a long time.
For £30 and a 180 mile round trip :o, this is what I got:



Long term project, it's a bit tatty but exactly as was described. Thinking a pair of MiniFan 480's should do the trick.

Anyway, does anybody know where the CG should be, and what control movements? I have sent an email to Howard Metcalfe and hope he repiles, but maybe somebody here has had one?

Ta.
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Re: Howard Metcalfe F15, Help Required..
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2007, 16:14:12 PM »
Also, anybody got any good suggestions for paint removal? This thing has 3 coats on!! Top coat (grey) is a spray, under this is a coat of silver (I swear it's Hammerite.....), then under that a coat of dark green. No idea whether they are enamel or what, but here's 1 hour's worth of 160/400/600 grit wet 'n' dry:



Driving me mad >:(
I dunno...

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Re: Howard Metcalfe F15, Help Required..
« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2007, 16:50:46 PM »
Also, anybody got any good suggestions for paint removal? This thing has 3 coats on!!


Ermmm...paint stripper....? Used carefully. ???
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Re: Howard Metcalfe F15, Help Required..
« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2007, 16:55:09 PM »
i think the HM range was brought by Phill Dorren who lives somewhere near bude.
i've not seen a f-15 in the line up tho.
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Re: Howard Metcalfe F15, Help Required..
« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2007, 16:56:10 PM »
Ermmm...paint stripper....? Used carefully. ???
I'd just paper over it with woodchip or a nice Anaglypta, no one will ever know.


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Re: Howard Metcalfe F15, Help Required..
« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2007, 18:04:34 PM »
When restoring old models i used a product called Model Strip. You paint on the paste, leave overnight in a plastic bag, and wash of the next day, agitating with a stiff brush. Depends on the paint though, very effective with enamels etc.
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Re: Howard Metcalfe F15, Help Required..
« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2007, 18:24:26 PM »
Just don't search for it on Google :o
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Re: Howard Metcalfe F15, Help Required..
« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2007, 18:33:39 PM »
Take great care putting chemical paint strippers onto those ABS mouldings - try it for compatibility on a hidden area first. Some paint strippers will attack ABS.

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Re: Howard Metcalfe F15, Help Required..
« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2007, 19:56:44 PM »
i think the HM range was brought by Phill Dorren who lives somewhere near bude.
i've not seen a f-15 in the line up tho.

That is indeed correct, but not the F15. I have been in touch with Phil over the past few years, particularly regarding the F4, since I converted one to MF480 EDF. Back then he was going to re-introduce it as an EDF, but I think it's on the back burner now...
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Re: Howard Metcalfe F15, Help Required..
« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2007, 19:58:32 PM »
Ermmm...paint stripper....? Used carefully. ???

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When restoring old models i used a product called Model Strip. You paint on the paste, leave overnight in a plastic bag, and wash of the next day, agitating with a stiff brush. Depends on the paint though, very effective with enamels etc.

Any idea where I can get it?

Take great care putting chemical paint strippers onto those ABS mouldings - try it for compatibility on a hidden area first. Some paint strippers will attack ABS.

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That's what I am concerned about. I have just tried a bit of cellulose thinners. Didn't touch the grey or silver, but smudged the green around a bit so may work there...


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Re: Howard Metcalfe F15, Help Required..
« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2007, 21:07:43 PM »
I remember hand launching one once with a ST .51 up front. It struggled to get away from a launch without a heavy shove and then it headed for the ground first, hopefully it would pick up enough speed to climb away...

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Re: Howard Metcalfe F15, Help Required..
« Reply #11 on: September 03, 2007, 21:31:36 PM »
Take great care putting chemical paint strippers onto those ABS mouldings - try it for compatibility on a hidden area first. Some paint strippers will attack ABS.

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I have successfully used a stripper called Home Strip, it is water based and therefore unlikely to attack plastics. It was bought in B&Q, if not still available then a similar product should be on sale.
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Re: Howard Metcalfe F15, Help Required..
« Reply #12 on: September 03, 2007, 22:12:06 PM »
I remember hand launching one once with a ST .51 up front. It struggled to get away from a launch without a heavy shove and then it headed for the ground first, hopefully it would pick up enough speed to climb away...

Yeah, I saw them at Sandown years ago. This one's getting twin EDF's and about 1kW, with a bungee launch, so hopefully no problems.

I have successfully used a stripper called Home Strip, it is water based and therefore unlikely to attack plastics. It was bought in B&Q, if not still available then a similar product should be on sale.


Thanks Jim, I'll have a look.
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Re: Howard Metcalfe F15, Help Required..
« Reply #13 on: September 03, 2007, 22:57:48 PM »
I get it from my LHS. It comes in a white container with a blue lid and an orange label.
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Re: Howard Metcalfe F15, Help Required..
« Reply #14 on: September 04, 2007, 15:01:02 PM »
Picked up some stuff at the local Homebase today. Great Strip. Not sure it's water based, but says tools should be washed with water...
Tested on a bit of one of the exhaust nozzles which will be removed for the EDF conversion, seems OK, if a little wimpy. Just applied a 2nd coat to the hatch, time will tell...
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Re: Howard Metcalfe F15, Help Required..
« Reply #15 on: September 04, 2007, 21:23:32 PM »
Didn't work when it was warm this afternoon.
Tried again tonight now it's cooled down, worked pretty well. It does not attack the ABS, though it does discolour it a little to a sort of 'smoking room' yellow. This goes when rubbed down with wet n dry. Lots to do...
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Re: Howard Metcalfe F15, Help Required..
« Reply #16 on: November 27, 2018, 13:04:45 PM »
I have one of Howards F15 kits complete and unused if anyone is interested.


 

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