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I decided not to go to the nationals this year.
Many reasons, but not going to go into them here.
So dodging the rain showers this is what I have been up to today.



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Prior to this I had already made the engine mount.


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And the nose.



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Very nice,...what model is it..?? ::)
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RM plan No.356
Chorus Gull
Designed by Brian Peckham


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One of these then..... ^-^



I just love these 1930's racer style planes.

Looking forward to the rest of the build.. :af
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Thats nice.

Any other pictures?

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Only these,.....









Just googled the name.....& up they come.. :af
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isn't XF a Mew Gull??   $%&
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Looking at it again, possibly is. Different tail shape.. :embarassed:
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Looking good.

I see one of Mr Tidey's finest is going in the front end............ THE Rolls Royce of model engines  :af  :uk:
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The point being, of course, that the Chorus Gull was a "sports scale" or "cartoon scale" design - intended to look like, or be "in the spirit of" the Mew Gull   ;)

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Wheres all the Balsa dust and shavings ?
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Only these,.....
Just googled the name.....& up they come.. :af

Thanks. Have got lots of picture`s but there are a couple of new ones there.

isn't XF a Mew Gull??   $%&

Hi Nick.
Yep the Chorus Gull is a sport scale version of the Mew Gull.

Looking good.

I see one of Mr Tidey's finest is going in the front end............ THE Rolls Royce of model engines  :af  :uk:

One of Mr Tidy`s older engines. Purchased for the princely sum of 30.00. It was all gummed up solid when I got it. Full strip down and rebuild completed. Just needed something to put it in.  ;D

Wheres all the Balsa dust and shavings ?

As I have to do the majority of my building outdoors (my shed is absolutely chock a block), the balsa dust and shavings tend to end up in heaps on the floor. Will get some pictures of them later. I do all my cutting out of parts in the shed, but when ever anything of any size needs to be done, well it all goes outside.

I do always make a kit of parts before commencing the build fully.


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O.K. then.

Pile of sawdust outside shed door. :''
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How sad is that!  :banghead:

Shed. Not a lot of space in there.
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I see a Volksplane in there.
I'me half way thru building a 1/3 scale one at the moment, what size is your one and what engine are you useing.

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Nice build and choice of subject NSS. I have the Seagull 1/4 scale Mew Gull unstarted, but given the mixed reviews I've seen/read on various forums I'm seriously considering selling it on and building this smaller version instead. I remember the mag article well, and I also have the plan. I can see you cut all your bits out yourself NSS, but for those who don't fancy doing that Belair now do a lazer cut parts set for this very plan. Tempting indeed.

Will keep watching with interest..........
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I see a Volksplane in there.
I'me half way thru building a 1/3 scale one at the moment, what size is your one and what engine are you useing.

1/4 scale.
I have flown it only twice. Used as a test bed for petrol engines. CRRC40. The build it yourself one.

norfolk`n`good has flown it using an Honda 4 stroke petrol engine.
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Nice build and choice of subject NSS. I have the Seagull 1/4 scale Mew Gull unstarted, but given the mixed reviews I've seen/read on various forums I'm seriously considering selling it on and building this smaller version instead. I remember the mag article well, and I also have the plan. I can see you cut all your bits out yourself NSS, but for those who don't fancy doing that Belair now do a lazer cut parts set for this very plan. Tempting indeed.

Will keep watching with interest..........
I liked the look of the Seagull version, but like you I was put of by the bad reviews.
I always try to cut my own parts, have the wood and the time but not always the money. I am tempted though with this to get a set of foam wings cut.

Kev

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I'm not a fan of foam wings NSS, so mine (if I build it) will have built up wings. It's a minor inconvenience not having all the rib patterns on the plan, but the sandwich method isn't too taxing for the aeromodellers among us.

I also like the fact the Chorus Gull's cowl appears tailor made for a Laser, as were many of  the late Brian Peckham's designs. I'll be interested to see the AUW and how she flies.......

P.S. Re: foam wings. I'm assuming you'll go to someone like Billkits for your wings NSS?  If you do, I'd ask for balsa skinning on the cores in preference to obechi. I have a set of balsa covered (foam) wings here produced by Dave Smith Models for one of his designs, and they seem superb. But again I'm not convinced of the merits of foam wings, as I much prefer built up structures......
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Not a huge fan of foam wings myself.

Billkits would be my preffered choice. I will make a note about the balsa skinning.

I have made a start on the wings but not overly happy with them.
I may start again.



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I also like the fact the Chorus Gull's cowl appears tailor made for a Laser, as were many of  the late Brian Peckham's designs. I'll be interested to see the AUW and how she flies.......

I am using the original Brian Peckham plan and not the free giveaway in RCM&E a few years ago as there were a number of errors on there version.

The plan shows the outline of an "OS" type engine, not a Laser but it fits in a treat. I will also be making most of the cowl from Litho, with a "scale" hinge as per the plan.

Could be a while before she flies. :study:

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The wings look ok from the photos NSS. What is it you're not happy about?

I have noticed there is no mention of washout on the plan. That said, this wing is tapered much less than the original Mew Gull wing, so all ought to be fine. The model is after all a sport-scale representation of the Mew Gull, and doesn't pretend to be in any way accurate.
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Ah yes NSS, I forgot there were two versions of this model.......  :af

I'm not fully up to speed regarding the errors on RCME's free giveaway plan NSS, what are they please?
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The wings look ok from the photos NSS. What is it you're not happy about?

I have noticed there is no mention of washout on the plan. That said, this wing is tapered much less than the original Mew Gull wing, so all ought to be fine. The model is after all a sport-scale representation of the Mew Gull, and doesn't pretend to be in any way accurate.

The construction is OK.

The washout is the problem. The plan calls for a packing strip under the rear spar, tapering from tip to root of 1/8 inch.
Silly me forgot to add the strip. :embarassed: Still I could introduce the washout when I do the sheeting.

Kev

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Yes NSS, adding the washout before you glue the sheeting on should "lock" in the required amount.

There is no mention of washout on my plan, even though there is reference to Mr.Peckham being the designer. If I do go ahead, I think I'll add a touch of washout just to be on the safe side........
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I see a Volksplane in there.
I'me half way thru building a 1/3 scale one at the moment, what size is your one and what engine are you useing.

oooh! build thread please! would that be the Bob Binley plan or your own design?
I have the BB plan as well as the full size plans . It`s my dream to build a half scale version, but not just yet!

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oooh! build thread please! would that be the Bob Binley plan or your own design?
I have the BB plan as well as the full size plans . It`s my dream to build a half scale version, but not just yet!

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Chaz, it is the Bob Binley plan.
After looking at the video posted by NSS with his one powered by a 31cc petrol engine i'me having doughts about mine with a ASP160 twin being up to the job.

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The bank holiday weekend is all but over. :'(

Despite the frequent showers I managed to get to this stage.

I think I will revisit the wing construction next.


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I'm not fully up to speed regarding the errors on RCME's free giveaway plan NSS, what are they please?
Sorry Brian missed the question.

The main area of error is in the rib templates. They are incorrect and will not match the fuselage when built up. IIRC :xx

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Re: Not been to the National`s. This is what I have been upto. Add yours here.
« Reply #29 on: February 20, 2012, 10:39:43 AM »
Apologies for dragging this one up, but I have made some progress recently.

Fuz completed apart from the litho engine cover, and wing seat.

Cheated on the wings. :embarassed:
Spoke to Brian Manley today at Billkits and ordered a set of foam wings. Sounds like really good service as I have been told to expect them by the end of the week. The whole project was in danger stalling so decided to go with foam, otherwise it would never have been completed.

So the progress so far.


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Re: Not been to the National`s. This is what I have been upto. Add yours here.
« Reply #30 on: February 20, 2012, 13:53:13 PM »
Cheated on the wings. :embarassed:
Spoke to Brian Manley today at Billkits and ordered a set of foam wings. Sounds like really good service as I have been told to expect them by the end of the week. The whole project was in danger stalling so decided to go with foam, otherwise it would never have been completed.

sure it wasn't bill manley??
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Re: Not been to the National`s. This is what I have been upto. Add yours here.
« Reply #31 on: February 20, 2012, 14:03:50 PM »
NSS

Forgive me asking NSS, but why the hardwood leading edge on the elevators?
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Re: Not been to the National`s. This is what I have been upto. Add yours here.
« Reply #32 on: February 20, 2012, 14:35:13 PM »
sure it wasn't bill manley??

Twice today I been  :embarassed:

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Re: Not been to the National`s. This is what I have been upto. Add yours here.
« Reply #33 on: February 20, 2012, 14:38:06 PM »
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Forgive me asking NSS, but why the hardwood leading edge on the elevators?

OK I cut them to small, and being a tightwad, went with some less expensive strip. 3 times now.  :embarassed:

Weight is not going to be an issue with this, so I forsee no problems.

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Re: Not been to the National`s. This is what I have been upto. Add yours here.
« Reply #34 on: February 28, 2012, 17:15:57 PM »
So that nice Mr Bill Manley sent my wings which arrived Thursday last week. I have to say the service lived up to expectations. Ordered 9am on Monday morning. Received a phone call about 3pm Monday afternoon, just to confirm some measurements. Wings are good quality, light and exactly as described.

Was working all weekend so had no time to do anything.

Off today and, wings joined with Gorilla glue, trailing edge fitted, false leading edge fitted, servo extension leads run and ready for the servos.




Leaving everything now to dry overnight. I hope after work tomorrow to get the leading edge on and shaped. Then the wingtips to build up.

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Re: Not been to the National`s. This is what I have been upto. Add yours here.
« Reply #35 on: February 19, 2013, 19:52:07 PM »
Just to bring this one completly up to date.

Lots of pictures I am not showing you.

Just some bling decals to add. Not going with G-AEFX as after all it is "Sport Scale"

So hopefully the Maiden will be this weekend.

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Re: Not been to the National`s. This is what I have been upto. Add yours here.
« Reply #36 on: February 19, 2013, 20:59:06 PM »
looking good kev  :af
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Re: Not been to the National`s. This is what I have been upto. Add yours here.
« Reply #37 on: February 19, 2013, 21:20:35 PM »
Love that ! I really must start another build  :)
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Re: Not been to the National`s. This is what I have been upto. Add yours here.
« Reply #38 on: February 20, 2013, 09:31:55 AM »
Good luck with the first flight, the Chorus Gull flies nicely, no nasty habits. Ailerons are a bit soft so I use as much as I can get. I had the fun of sorting out the freebie plan errors on the ribs but got round it OK in the end.
My Gull is in my avatar built it 8 years ago and it's still in one piece. You must do the spats at some point it really makes it look good in the air.

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Re: Not been to the National`s. This is what I have been upto. Add yours here.
« Reply #39 on: February 20, 2013, 15:18:02 PM »
Hey NSS glad you finished it! Hope you enjoy it as much as I do mine, it's a big grin plane.  :af

PS AEFX? I know it's not quite scale, but it's a long way from a DH84!!
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