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Re: Hirobo Haven
« Reply #2040 on: April 09, 2012, 15:46:07 PM »
As long as you guys can open it, thats the main thing :af
Working from a 300x300x1,5mm sheet of carbon fibre, thats pretty much as big as i can go.It gives me about 11mm more space for the lipo and raises the tailboom up about 10mm from the ground.Still looking for a bit of carbon fibre sheet, so far best price i have found is just under £5o, which isnt the worst.Thats proper prepreg carbon sheet, glossy on both sides, not a fibre glass core covered in a layer of carbon.


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Re: Hirobo Haven
« Reply #2041 on: April 11, 2012, 19:39:24 PM »
As long as you guys can open it, thats the main thing :af
Working from a 300x300x1,5mm sheet of carbon fibre,
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Are they your lepton frames on bmfa ? and you could almost cut some new Alignment frames out of that sheet  ;D :nananana:]
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Re: Hirobo Haven
« Reply #2042 on: April 11, 2012, 21:56:08 PM »
Yep, they are my frames.May as well let them go to someone who needs a set at a reasonable price. Ordered the carbon fibre sheet for the new frames yesterday, £54 including postage,Am lucky that i have the facilities to machine a new set with more space for a 6s lipo :af

Ripoffmax lives up to its reputation , £449 for a Hirobo Embla that costs 339 euros in Germany, go figure.....  $%&


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Re: Hirobo Haven
« Reply #2043 on: April 12, 2012, 01:59:32 AM »
what an Embla in a UK shop?  $%& $%& $%&

its dead before its stocked
i'd already said the same on RR
to late and priced out of the market

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Re: Hirobo Haven
« Reply #2044 on: April 12, 2012, 07:02:30 AM »
£449 for an Embla, that's disgraceful...........................the last 450 I built cost me £167 and that was flight ready
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Re: Hirobo Haven
« Reply #2045 on: April 13, 2012, 18:41:45 PM »
£17 bit of Polish carbon fibre arrived today :af
Needs a bit of a polish, but really cannot complain, stiff as hell and nice and flat. Think it might be Sideframe Sunday :'' :''

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Re: Hirobo Haven
« Reply #2046 on: April 13, 2012, 19:19:47 PM »
thats after collect car parts saturday then  :'(

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Re: Hirobo Haven
« Reply #2047 on: April 13, 2012, 19:27:39 PM »
Oh dear

Did it die or did you do some cosmetic remodelling?

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Re: Hirobo Haven
« Reply #2048 on: April 13, 2012, 21:55:03 PM »
the parts i got whilst the car was mobile have turned out to be wrong and now the shop tells me its a main dealer only part i need  :banghead:
i wish they'd told me that the other day
the bushes in the arm aren't replaceable so the main dealer has told me (after i couldn't get them out) and its a pair of new arms i need
it's going to be fun riding 15 miles with them strapped to the back of my R1

and after looking at the old arms again the steel section of the bush is part of the arms
so the main dealers correct


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Re: Hirobo Haven
« Reply #2049 on: April 15, 2012, 16:58:03 PM »
Some photos

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Re: Hirobo Haven
« Reply #2050 on: April 15, 2012, 17:06:03 PM »
Sideframe Sunday was a success :af

Sanded out the scratches from the carbon fibre sheet and gave it a polish before putting it into the machining centre. Changed the sideframes a bit more, made the maingear cut out bigger and moved the belt pinch rollers futher back. Battery in photo is a 5s 3300mah . Picked up two from a clubmate this afternoon, one unused and the other one take off but no landing old :o Well, it would have been rude to say no at £20 a pack  ;D

So, for £13 plus postage i now have a 6s ready Lepton in the build. Days like this makes where i work and what i do all worth while :af

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Re: Hirobo Haven
« Reply #2051 on: April 19, 2012, 19:02:41 PM »
A bit of an update on the Lepton.I wasnt happy with the thickness of the carbon fibre, nearly 1mm thicker than what i would have liked, so i thought i would try something out. Took an offcut and bunged it on the surface grinder.Result :af
Am going to chuck the sideframes on there at the weekend and grind them down to 1,6mm thick.

I have ordered a Hacker motor for it, should hopefully arrive tomorrow.As for the tail ratio problem i have got that sorted out.I have machined the blank for a new pulley and have found a company locally that can cut a s2m profile tooth onto the blank,so another result. That means i can now run a 64t main pulley with the original Hirobo 14t tail pulley, up from the standard 56t/14t.That will give me a tail ratio of slightly under 4,6 :1. Should be perfect. Am going to start off on 5s but plan to go up to 6s once i have it sorted out.When i do, i will replace the main gear with one with more teeth so i can get the ratio i need without having to slot the magnesium motor mount to run a 16t pinion.

All that remains is to find a decent 70 A esc.That Kontronic Koby is looking good at the moment......

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Re: Hirobo Haven
« Reply #2052 on: April 19, 2012, 19:57:56 PM »
I have just installed a Hobby Wing Fly Fun 80A Opto in one of three HK500's I have built while the rain falls.  It's only been test hovered so far (indoors, large hall!) because of the weather but I'm impressed by the smoothness and the very very low minimum speed and linear control which makes spooling up a pleasure.

You are doing more "engineering" than I have time for.  I am only just getting around to reassembling the Sceadu Evo that I think lost the pitch horn off the servo weeks and weeks ago. The resultant not very hard but unlevelled landing broke one leg, tripped it and did loads of damage to head and boom...............
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Re: Hirobo Haven
« Reply #2053 on: April 19, 2012, 21:09:44 PM »
Was the only new years resolution i made, that seeing i have a setup many can only dream of, i should make more use of it hobbywise. Weather has been crap, so why not. Got a nice job from Joe, (vhrc), a friend of Paynes.Job driving me around the bend and up the wall, but i will get it right in the end.........At least its not urgent ;D

Must email him sometime, sure he must think i have fallen off the planet ;)

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Re: Hirobo Haven
« Reply #2054 on: April 19, 2012, 21:34:32 PM »
well if you make a few spare tail units they'll sell like hot cakes
just make sure Joe get his first

if you want to make a complete fenestron tail assemble for a Larry Jolly Blue Thunder
I know a chap thats after one

the electric sceadu used a jetti/hacker 77A opto esc
Allen from Astec Models got the motor and the esc for me


and I hope you're sitting down when the bill for the Hacker motor comes in
even Allen was shocked at the price of mine

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Re: Hirobo Haven
« Reply #2055 on: April 19, 2012, 21:53:44 PM »
I only plan on one set and thats for Joe because he helped me out so much with my mh10 :af Have been battling a bit, to be fair, but will get it done, even if it means a trip to my old company that had a decent wire cutter and spark eroder. ;D

Hacker paid for, not too bad price wise, but bare in mind its only a A30 size motor, A30-12xl to be exact, 700kv. ESC seems to be a bit of an issue with this particular motor on 5 and 6s as it is a 14 pole motor and can run on the warm side and do funny things to an esc. From what info i have been able to find, the Kontronik Koby doesnt seem to mind too much as long as you have the timing set somewhere between 22-25°. Got motor from West London Models,who i believe are the Uk agents for Hacker. 20t revco pinion from fast lad.

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Re: Hirobo Haven
« Reply #2056 on: April 21, 2012, 18:22:40 PM »
I stuck the sideframes on the grinder today, literally ;D
Worked a treat, now have two 1,6mm thick sideframes, perfectly flat.Gave them a light coat of clear and will t cut them in a few days time.Motor and pinion also arrived. Getting there slowly, but as long as the weather stays like it is, there is no rush ;D


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Re: Hirobo Haven
« Reply #2057 on: April 21, 2012, 22:23:51 PM »
how will 5 or 6 s lift the grinder attached to the side frames?
that motor must have some torque  ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Hirobo Haven
« Reply #2058 on: April 21, 2012, 22:26:34 PM »
there's two of us now to take the p out of the misaligned helis on the other forum  :af

i think a post with a very wide opening will have to make its way  :ev :ev :ev

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Re: Hirobo Haven
« Reply #2059 on: June 10, 2012, 22:10:39 PM »
Come on, 2 Hobos left in the UK.....think you're exaggerating.
Bet you drive a Rover as well.

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Re: Hirobo Haven
« Reply #2060 on: June 10, 2012, 22:19:23 PM »
rover's go woof woof  :ev
good old henry has the correct room to fit a few heli's inside


and i see you're very misaligen   ;D ;D

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Re: Hirobo Haven
« Reply #2061 on: June 10, 2012, 22:35:52 PM »
Yep misaligned,gave up hobos years ago when the TT kicked their butt with the
Raptor 50. Then moved on to the 700 fbl.
But I think the Raptor G4 fbl nitro will be my next squeeze.
Unless ALIGN decide to do a nitro version of the soon to be released DFC high voltage 700 E combo.

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Re: Hirobo Haven
« Reply #2062 on: June 11, 2012, 00:14:50 AM »
tt did what align has done jumped the market ahead of the others

and yes hirobo are slow with new models, hence the rappy was so popular
the pricing help a lot to

and the g4 kicks align's butt for breakfast

i was very foolish and had a 700 for 6 months, it was just to unrelyable and costly to keep in the air, i did see the light and bought a turbulence that hasn't needed a spanner on it in the 3 years i've owned it
although the engine may be borrowed for my rappy 90 as i blew the motor on the rappy today
i can see a nice little os105 making its way into the turbulence
for even more fun 

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Re: Hirobo Haven
« Reply #2063 on: June 11, 2012, 17:32:02 PM »
Go for the 105 they are awesome.
I run the 91 version with the matched os pipe and find it virtually
unboggable. I run it quite rich and its got a shedload of power.
My flying buddy has the 105,it produces great power but i must say there is not much of a noticeable difference with the 91.
The best gain is we have both dropped from 30% to 20% optifuel
with no noticeable power loss,just quite a saving in fuel costs.
The regulated fuel supply is faultless and doesn't miss a beat even
with loads of G.
I get a good 8 mins without using the header so economy is ok.
The 105 is about 7mins.
The downside is the pressurised fuel system is fierce.
I am on my second fuel tank and header this year

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Re: Hirobo Haven
« Reply #2064 on: August 08, 2012, 08:44:24 AM »
Been quiet here!!  $%&

I gained a Shuttle, top start but quite old, inside a Eurocopter body recently.

When I stripped off the body to refurbish, check and test fly as a chassis before redecorating ( its nicely painted but needs graphics detailing as a bit plain (red) and currently does not have fuel proofing) and then refitting the body I found a brand new seemingly unrun OS 32 ringed!  ???

I also found a Revolution PZ-200 Rate Gyro sitting on top of the thickest floppiest lump of yellow foam I have ever seen in my life............. ;D ;D    ( I think that giro is possibly for the bin!!.............or should I??   :ev )


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Re: Hirobo Haven
« Reply #2065 on: August 08, 2012, 21:19:16 PM »
No longer posting on here.Got irritated by a couple of people, you and the other Dave not being one of them.Decided my input elsewhere would be appreciated more.
Johnny

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Re: Hirobo Haven
« Reply #2066 on: August 09, 2012, 08:00:48 AM »
No longer posting on here.Got irritated by a couple of people, you and the other Dave not being one of them.Decided my input elsewhere would be appreciated more.
Johnny

OK.........     :o    PM Where and username if different..............??     ???
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Re: Hirobo Haven
« Reply #2067 on: August 22, 2012, 19:31:27 PM »

I thought I'd got rid of the Squirrels in my garden, but I was wrong.....................  :wink:









Eurocopter AS355 "Écureuil" (Squirrel) from an unpainted FunKey body.  Pseudo Fire Service scheme (Will have "G-FIRE" lettering when I can get to a cutter IF it survives that long!!

Chassis is an ancient  Hirobo Shuttle ZXX (top start), Std 148 servos, Futaba 401 Gyro, OS 32 engine.

I have modified the power and fuel systems to be able to access everything needed for normal use through the side window.
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Re: Hirobo Haven
« Reply #2068 on: August 22, 2012, 22:00:10 PM »
red squirrels are ok
its those dam grey ones you need to get rid of

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Re: Hirobo Haven
« Reply #2069 on: September 02, 2012, 07:55:51 AM »
Good job I didn't leave it primer then.....................  :nananana:

Had an issue with body vibration (no surprise there then!!), easily cured with additional top brackets to chassis frame.

Now I have a weird problem.  It spools up to flight rotor speed, but with no sign of lifting. At a little beyond what you'd expect for rotor speed based on chassis only flights feel and allowance for additional weight, still no lift at all.

Then with no change of engine pitch it will suddenly lift  up to a hover about 24 " up, then decay away to land, still sounding like it should fly.

It looks exactly like its been stuck to the ground and the glue finally fails!!

Then it will not lift at all............pit, stop engine and restart, retry, no good, no lift.  All the time it starts readily, runs at idle smoothly, spools up cleanly, sounds right.

Allow it to stand for ten mins, and it will repeat this, one delayed and then sudden jerky lift only.............which suggests overheating, yet it does not seem so from the sound or tests on the engine casing. It does not sound or feel like lack of power or the engine tightening up. It does not sound like a slipping clutch and the engine at no time revs above what the throttle setting suggests it should sound like.  Remember, it flew well as a chassis before fitting the body.

Seems like I'm going to have the take the body off again ( :banghead:). 

Before that I will try some carbon blades, as its on wood currently. (could they be de-pitching?)

I will also try maximising the head speed as far as I dare.


Failing that, I have a ringed gold head  Irvine 36 which I can use, but any other ideas before I do??



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Re: Hirobo Haven
« Reply #2070 on: September 02, 2012, 19:19:40 PM »
i would change the blades
increase the pitch at hover point
richen the mixture as the extra load on the engine due to the increase in weight
and load due to the increase in pitch will make the engine hot
the poor cooling in the body won't help with the engine running hot

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Re: Hirobo Haven
« Reply #2071 on: October 20, 2013, 00:52:52 AM »
anyone know what this model is?  :''


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Re: Hirobo Haven
« Reply #2072 on: October 20, 2013, 07:10:40 AM »
anyone know what this model is?  :''


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Re: Hirobo Haven
« Reply #2073 on: October 20, 2013, 19:52:54 PM »
it was refered to as a very upgrade model at a fly-in

or otherwise known as johnny's sdx ex

i did have to use a sceadu canopy on it as the sdx one didn't fit very well over the freya battery tray

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Re: Hirobo Haven
« Reply #2074 on: October 22, 2013, 10:48:16 AM »
 ;)

I probably would never risk flying it!!

My "Super Sceadu" with all unobtanium metal genuine Hirobo everything so blinged to the max (bought like that for no more than a std one!!)  hasn't flown for a year, while the 3 more std hacks get all the airtime, I suppose it's compulsory to HAVE a Hangar Queen, but I look at it, and pass it by, week after week...........................  $%& $%&

My "best" plane is similarly hangar bound, flown once this year. I wonder why I own it really.............  ^-^

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Re: Hirobo Haven
« Reply #2075 on: October 22, 2013, 21:58:35 PM »
it was built to fly
as it was built from a selection of hirobo models parts it did take a little setting up to get it flying right but it was worth the effort

the sdex gets flown often

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Re: Hirobo Haven
« Reply #2076 on: October 26, 2013, 21:19:24 PM »
i am now a model  :nananana:
i was asked today if i minded that a fellow modelers wife took some pictures of my hirobo jacket
at the cheshire hell-e-cats scale fly-in

i am now available for weddings,parties,fly-ins to model a great range of hirobo jackets  :'' :'' :''

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Re: Hirobo Haven
« Reply #2077 on: October 26, 2013, 21:41:57 PM »
 :af
When in Dought go flying.
Raptor 50 Titan: Raptor 50 Titan in an MD530 body:
Raptor E550: Sceadu Evo

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Re: Hirobo Haven
« Reply #2078 on: October 27, 2013, 01:08:44 AM »
it seams i only knew of the one person that took a shine to the best jacket ever made
(hint to ripmax/hirobo for apperance fees)
heres a picture taken by a chap at the event that i didn't know was taken


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Re: Hirobo Haven
« Reply #2079 on: April 15, 2018, 23:58:00 PM »
its been a few years since anyone posted on this topic but
here's the updated sdx50 with the Hirobo FBL head
but the Freya did me proud on my helicopter examiners test, it flew better than me

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