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RC Flight Chatter / Re: January 7th 2019 - Drone Law Changes
« Last post by Steve J on Yesterday at 18:06:30 »
I received a very nice email from EASA at the time saying that if I was a member of a model organisation then the new regulations would not affect me at all.

I think that you may be confusing the September '16 EASA prototype with the December '16 DfT consultation.

Steve
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RC Flight Chatter / Re: January 7th 2019 - Drone Law Changes
« Last post by itsme on Yesterday at 17:35:58 »
I received a very nice email from EASA at the time saying that if I was a member of a model organisation then the new regulations would not affect me at all. That was two years ago.
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RC Flight Chatter / Re: January 7th 2019 - Drone Law Changes
« Last post by lanicopter on Yesterday at 16:49:53 »
I also responded, and I distinctly remember it being worded in such a way that it was NOT clear that the system had already been decided upon.

Suggesting that it was made clear that it was a consultation to complain about an already existing system seems a little off. They should have been trying to find out if there was a need before actually building it.

If what you're saying is true then the consultation was a pointless exercise because the wheels were already in motion and everything the CAA had done up until that point was simply a smokescreen over their real agenda. They've basically lead the BMFA / FPVUK up the garden path.

Theres something very fishy about the whole setup.

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RC Flight Chatter / Re: January 7th 2019 - Drone Law Changes
« Last post by itsme on Yesterday at 10:05:23 »
Let me think. A database of drone and model pilots and operators for the reason of....err..costing 2.8 million a year funded by....err...no, I cant think of a use for this white elephant except for the vain hope that someone will register, put their number on their drone, take it to Gatrow and fly it within the exclusion zone and crash it so it can be recovered. Then the operator (or the pilot?) can be prosecuted. If the operator (owner) and pilot are different, who can they charge? A pretty small chance of any conviction, I would say. So I stick to the 'stupid' description. 34,000 of us are already registered with the BMFA, insured and all details kept. Just what do they think they can gain? The CAA spokesman admitted he had no idea of the numbers involved, and made a stab in the dark at 170,000. Yep, stupid.
And oh by the way, I was was one of the 213 who responded. And exhorted others to do the same, as I am still doing.
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RC Flight Chatter / Re: January 7th 2019 - Drone Law Changes
« Last post by Steve J on Yesterday at 08:32:19 »
This whole thing is dreamt up by idiots in the DfT to be seen to be addressing the situation.

Somebody doing something that you don't agree with does not automatically make them an idiot.

The DfT are enabling commercial BVLOS unmanned aircraft operations in the UK. The only arguments to be had about the registration scheme at this time is who pays for it and whether or not it has an interface with the BMFA membership system. The decision to have a registration system was made years ago. The December 2016 consultation (the one that only 213 modellers responded to) was your chance to challenge that decision.

On the subject of the FRZ's around protected aerodromes, there is supposed to be a review later in the year, so this is something else where people should be making their views known to their MP etc.

Steve
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RC Flight Chatter / Re: January 7th 2019 - Drone Law Changes
« Last post by itsme on Yesterday at 07:52:14 »
EASA is an EU agency and we are still an EU member.

Steve
I agree, but this was denied at the time, and the EASA regulations were to be used even after we left. This whole thing is dreamt up by idiots in the DfT to be seen to be addressing the situation.
According to PDR back in 2010, EASA should be the body in charge, not the CAA.
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The UK is an EASA signatory country. As a result all matters of airspace regulation and airworthiness regulation and governance (with a few specifric exceptions, none of which apply here) are ceded to EASA. The UK is represented on the EASA board and committees, but there are no veto powers (for anyone) and the UK is bound by treaty to implement the collective agreements. EASA is a member of ICAO and is equally bound (by treaty) to implement and regulate in accordance with collective ICAO decisions and standards."
So whats going on?
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RC Flight Chatter / Re: January 7th 2019 - Drone Law Changes
« Last post by paulinfrance on Yesterday at 07:20:37 »
If I drop my camera ( no IPhone ) can it be classed as a drone ?.
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RC Flight Chatter / Re: January 7th 2019 - Drone Law Changes
« Last post by Bad Raven on Yesterday at 05:55:49 »
you can sit on the end of Gatwick runway and fly them over the aircraft taking off, then.

While I realise that was a joke (in more ways than one) the airport restricted areas apply to ALL weights, 250g and under are not exempt, and it would be as well not to forget that!
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RC Flight Chatter / Re: January 7th 2019 - Drone Law Changes
« Last post by Steve J on May 21, 2019, 18:47:53 PM »
EASA is nothing to do with the EU (or so they told us) and the EASA regulations were supposed to stand after the UK leaves.

EASA is an EU agency and we are still an EU member.

Steve
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RC Flight Chatter / Re: January 7th 2019 - Drone Law Changes
« Last post by Steve J on May 21, 2019, 18:45:53 PM »
THEY are also putting in more requirements than EASA require, ie EASA are happy for organisations like the BMFA, LMA, etc to register their members.

The wording in the latest draft regulation is:

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Member States may enable model aircraft clubs and associations to register their members into the registration systems established in accordance with Article 14 on their behalf. If this is not the case, the members of model aircraft clubs and associations shall register themselves in accordance with Article 14.

I wonder if any states will use this option. I can see arguments both ways.

Steve
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