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Re: Phase 6 Sport
« Reply #120 on: November 27, 2016, 13:00:15 PM »
Wow, that sounds rather old.

I am thinking in my repair to put small piece of cloth and epoxy at the break around the Fuz. Then add a second longer bit that will go over the first bit. Should I do the fist bit then let it dry before adding the second bit or do first bit and then add the second bit of cloth while the epoxy is still wet.. I would appreciate the assembled wisdom on this please.

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Re: Phase 6 Sport
« Reply #121 on: November 27, 2016, 19:02:07 PM »
I'd do it all in one and I think I'd lay some thin carbon rod between layers and across the weak point.
For a new build I'm not sure what the answer is, I'd use spruce longerons in the corners for sure, & taper them off to the tail.

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Re: Phase 6 Sport
« Reply #122 on: November 27, 2016, 19:18:19 PM »
I do not have any carbon where can I get some suitable carbon from?

If  I were to build again (unlikely) I would go for a one piece fuz side and some stronger longerons.

With regards carbon I have often seen it in designs on spars to add strength. But thin carbon seems to me not very strong, I guess encased in epoxy it gains strength.

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Re: Phase 6 Sport
« Reply #123 on: November 27, 2016, 22:55:56 PM »
I do not have any carbon where can I get some suitable carbon from?



There's this website on the inter web, you may not have heard of it...It's called e-bay I think 😜
I must get out more...

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Re: Phase 6 Sport
« Reply #124 on: November 28, 2016, 12:02:48 PM »
Having had some good friendly advice during this build and having never used carbon before I was hoping someone here in RCMF could advice me what to get and where to get it from in terms of a good supplier.

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Re: Phase 6 Sport
« Reply #125 on: November 28, 2016, 12:11:40 PM »
Best supplier I know http://www.easycomposites.co.uk/#!/. Lots of good advice, videos and cheap(ish) starter kits.

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Re: Phase 6 Sport
« Reply #126 on: November 28, 2016, 14:17:35 PM »
I don't think I'd be tempted by carbon rod, personally I'd just wrap some glasscloth round it
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Re: Phase 6 Sport
« Reply #127 on: November 30, 2016, 10:58:33 AM »
I'm not convinced by carbon rod either, 2 or three layers of glass cloth would be my choice.

Unless you wanted to carbon sock it - which would probably be the best way to resolve the issue.

Do a search for the technique - I have not tried it myself, but it was very popular amongst Speedo fliers a while back, but basically you can get carbon sock - which is kind of like a woven tube, resembling a chinese finger trap which you slide over the break and then pull tight before applying the resin.

I have a old Erwin which was repaired by a previous owner like this and it is very neat and very strong.
Ah HAH! Thats how you do it!

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Re: Phase 6 Sport
« Reply #128 on: November 30, 2016, 12:29:38 PM »
Thanks gone the simple known route.

Well here is the main damage

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And after two coats of cloth and some 60 minute epoxy here is the repair

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Needs a bit of a sanding down before re-covering. Also need to sort the push pul rudder connections out and all should be fine. Jolly cold in the garage.

Should be up and flying again soon.

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Re: Phase 6 Sport
« Reply #129 on: December 01, 2016, 16:58:06 PM »
All done and repaired as good as . . . well a new glider repaired!

Added a little more weight for a slightly forward COG for next flight.

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Re: Phase 6 Sport
« Reply #130 on: January 17, 2017, 23:38:57 PM »
I was given some money on leaving my last company!

So just ordered a P6 Sport as I enjoy building! It comes with a hole in each wing for a servo which is good. I did consider adding flaps but will not. MP was my first aileron model!

Will strengthen the fuz as recommended and I am considering removable tail plane and elevator will take a closer look when I get the kit

I have glass cloth but what do I need to apply it, to add strength. I am not allergic to resin. I have read about Poly C, Polyurethane  varnish and then there is epoxy resin. Which is best and if I go epoxy route what do I need will 30 mins two part do or do I need special stuff. Is is also worth glassing the wings or keep it simple?

Thanks for any advice.

Tad

You know what Tad - I would ABSOLUTELY LOVE to make an all-moulded Phase 6.

Unfortunately I do'nt think it will ever happen due to in-place agreements etc, and of course I would never splash it.

But...boy what a project!

When I did the 2-metre Jart design I was quite happy with the results, but the Phase 6 would be in a class of its own.

What a classic!

Alas...

Doc j. :uk:

« Last Edit: January 17, 2017, 23:40:14 PM by Doc James H »

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Re: Phase 6 Sport
« Reply #131 on: March 27, 2017, 20:28:07 PM »
Re - maidened my Phase 6 and she is fast and fun to fly. I bit of a challenge to land but got her down safely.

Then watched another guy fly his Phase 6, I asked how he adjusts his ailerons to land, he replied the P6 is older than me and only has one aileron servo. I must say wow his flying was superb, 8 point rolls, inverted stuff, rolling stationary in the lift. The landing was just as amazing to me anyway, he came back up the slope top turned left and right at top to loose left and after many times doing this landed very smoothly. I was impressed.

One happy P6 owner.

Now to fly more!

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Re: Phase 6 Sport
« Reply #132 on: March 30, 2017, 09:18:15 AM »
Well done Tad.

Worth the journey then.

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