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Re: Phase 6 Sport
« Reply #80 on: October 07, 2016, 17:47:13 PM »
Looks good, seeing the weave is good, seeing puddles of resin is bad...yours looks good
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Re: Phase 6 Sport
« Reply #81 on: October 07, 2016, 20:30:40 PM »
Thanks Graeme and Itsme for the encouragement. Glad I am not using fibre and epoxy resin to strengthen the fuz. Hopefully the water based varnish will be easier!

On with the tail plane.

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Re: Phase 6 Sport
« Reply #82 on: October 08, 2016, 00:05:48 AM »
Removable Tail Plane

Marked up where the brass tubes will go and where to cut the tail plane to have 3 parts. Centre section that will be in the slot at rear of fuz and the two halves of the tail plane. Cut slots 3mm wide and around 5mm deep (I did manage not to go through the tail plane!) in the tail plane. Also cut some 3mm square soft balsa to length.

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Lined up the two halves so they were straight and put the brass tube in place in the slots and the wire joiners in them. To make the wires a little stiffer I lightly crimped the brass tube and also crimped the end to stop the wire going into the tail plane. Dropped a small drop of thin cyno on the brass. Fortunately none got to the wire. Let it dry then separated the two halves and removed the wire and added more thin cyno.

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On the soft 3mm square balsa gouged out a semi-circle (to fit better to the brass tube) using the tool below.

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Then added the cap strips to the tail plane halves. Then added the brass to the centre section with the rods in place and the rear of the tail plane pushed up to a nice straight edge. Dropped a tiny drop of cyno to the brass let it dry.

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Then removed the wire and added more cyno and then added the routed cap strips with thin cyno. Planned then sanded the cap strips flush with the tail plane.

Finally cut some 6mm ply strips and drilled 3mm holes and glued them on the ends of the tail plane and centre section. Glued with wood glue and tapes up nice and square.

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Will have to sand down the ply when it is securely glued to tail plane parts, a job for another day.

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Re: Phase 6 Sport
« Reply #83 on: October 08, 2016, 11:49:55 AM »
All Coming Along nicely there!
Maiden next weekend?
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Re: Phase 6 Sport
« Reply #84 on: October 09, 2016, 10:39:23 AM »
This is a tale of my intro to a Phase six PRO, not the sport. When I started flying models back in the eighties, my first glider was a Cheapskate 2 channel I built from a free plan, then I bought a Ridge Recruit, again a 2 channel glider most suited to my flying experience so far.  Soon after, I rescued a Collie from the RSPCA, called Patch, she was a great friend and companion, always with me when I went gliding, she would run up and down the ridge chasing my glider, but would never touch it.   Once landed, she would run over to it and sit beside it till I came over.
Then one day, a friend turned up with his two young sons, carrying a Phase 6 Pro, full house!
I had landed my RR so I could look at his P6, he then launched his glider and showed me it`s "full House" capabilities.
Now, up until this point, I have been flying two channel ( rudder /elevator ) light weight slowish gliders.   So my friend then says, "can you hold the transmitter a minute, just keep it straight and level, you`ll be ok", so I did, he then turned around and started playing with my dog, Patch! what the...."hey..." flaming heck does this thing travel!! Now I wasn`t a rich man by any means, but thrusting into my untrained hands the controls of an `expensive` F1 pedigree mode ( 80`s era) was frightening to say the least! "please come back..." but he had gone out of earshot of me, so I asked one of his sons to get him back. He did ...eventually, but , Wow! That`s when I learnt about bicycle clips flying :o ;D

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Re: Phase 6 Sport
« Reply #85 on: October 09, 2016, 10:52:45 AM »
Yep. Ford Anglia to F1. Sums it up really. I bet you built one after that.....

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Re: Phase 6 Sport
« Reply #86 on: October 09, 2016, 14:32:36 PM »
Hmmm next weekend is a tad optimistic.

Our Collie comes up the hills when my wife joins me. She too chases (the Collie)  the gliders back and forth even though they are away up in the air. She too goes to where they land which is very useful at times. Once I was coming in to land and the Collie was chasing and I heard this dong, sounded like wing hitting something solid, it must have been the Collie as it was not the ground she seemed fine.

The step up from R/E to A/E/R is big as things go so much quicker. My son learnt on A/E and learnt quicker IMHO than on a R/E model. He had no fear and think at the back f his mind if I crash dad will fix it. Thinking of teaching my wife to fly. So thinking of designing a robust aileron trainer! I will finish P6 first though.

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Re: Phase 6 Sport
« Reply #87 on: October 09, 2016, 20:12:59 PM »
Dry fitted the elevator horn, push rod and centre section of the tailplane. Realised one can not fit the pushrod one the horn is in place. Made up the elevator push rod to the correct length and installed it and tested it with the faithful little servo tester, such a useful tool to test out servo setups. Also realised Autumn is truly here as the garage is cold and my fingers are still warming up!

Here is a picture of testing the elevator servo set up.

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Here is a picture of a close up of the horn.

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Once I mount the tailplane centre section I will add ply to keep the horn pivot rod in place ensuring it lines nicely with the tailplane centre section.

Going to try a dummy run with top hinging the elevator and see if that works. Just find top hinging with waterproof 3M tape is easier than faffing with hinges! Also seals the gap between tailplane and elevator if that makes any difference!

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Re: Phase 6 Sport
« Reply #88 on: October 09, 2016, 23:29:49 PM »
Yep. Ford Anglia to F1. Sums it up really. I bet you built one after that.....

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No I didn`t, thought it was too big a jump, so bought a Flair Heron instead, But my boss has a P6 Sport lying idle in kit form...hmmm.

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Re: Phase 6 Sport
« Reply #89 on: October 10, 2016, 22:50:30 PM »
An evening of sanding and planning as I made the ailerons left and right ones as well! Added ply spreader plate and drilled 5mm hole for wing bolt. Added ply ends to ailerons and wing centre sections and also added the tips.

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Tomorrow I can shape the wing tips and chamfer the aileron for the horns, never done this in the past so will give it a go, makes sense but not sure the effort will make any difference.

Instructions say 7/16 up and down for aileron, should I add a small bit of differential or not worry on a small wing?

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Re: Phase 6 Sport
« Reply #90 on: October 11, 2016, 09:46:21 AM »
If I read this right you are using a separate servo for each aileron, yes?

If that is the case I would not worry about differential at this point, just concentrate on getting both horns the same.

My recollection is that my P6 did not need aileron differential, but I am probably a lot more critical now than I was back then.

Modern TX mixing, with a separate servo on each aileron means you can experiment with differential at your leisure, once you have got everything else dialed in.
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Re: Phase 6 Sport
« Reply #91 on: October 11, 2016, 09:50:05 AM »
Chazz- I had a Heron, nice flyer as I remember but not in the same league as a Phase Pro. My choice was Stan Yeos Turbo Esprit. Amazing bit of kit.

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Re: Phase 6 Sport
« Reply #92 on: October 11, 2016, 10:16:35 AM »
I have two servos one per wing so will not worry about differential. Will dial in some snap flap and have it switchable. Thank you.

I to have one of Stan's Turbo Esprit and it was a superb model, sadly a heavy arrival ended it! I did ask if he was going to kit it but as yet no plans for that. Told him I had got a P6 and he was kind enough to offer suggestions, a real gent is Stan.

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Re: Phase 6 Sport
« Reply #93 on: October 11, 2016, 10:17:43 AM »
Are the plans on his website? Most of his stuff is there. And yes, a lovely guy.

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Re: Phase 6 Sport
« Reply #94 on: October 11, 2016, 23:03:47 PM »
Plans are on his website, but I fancied a kit build to save hassle of cutting bits. Also I have no where to make foam wings, prefer built up anyway.

Well after a lot of faffing measuring more faffing and more measuring I glued the tail plane centre section in the fuz. used white glue to take it in place then a fillet of epoxy. Also added balsa to stop the pivot rod coming out. Added the fin post to the fin and the triangular bit at front of fin. Like the fin design the post helps stop warping and also helps hopefully make it vertical and stronger than if the fin was just glued on the fuz top.

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Getting closer to finishing however with a good NE forecast tomorrow and Thursday flying takes preference. Beldam and Pilatus will be flown and hopefully landed in one piece! Can't afford rebuilds to distract from P6 build!

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Re: Phase 6 Sport
« Reply #95 on: October 12, 2016, 22:34:02 PM »
Hmm...I'd be a bit reluctant to use 'tex, because the exposed weave is a bit draggy. I had a 2nd-hand P6 which was covered in 'tex and it never retained energy like my original ones did.
PDR

It still going strong too....Lots of ripples in the tex now but it still flies fine.
Twin micro servos in place of a single. Tried differential, flapperons, spoilerons etc. Not really worth the hassle to be honest. Snap flaps have livened it up a bit, and it can hold inverted for longer because of them.
It has a Lipo and regulator, so it's still my short notice grab and go model. I might re-cover the wings one day..... But probably not!

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Re: Phase 6 Sport
« Reply #96 on: October 12, 2016, 22:52:52 PM »
Fuz will be covered in cloth and WBPU then Solarspan or Easycote not sure which it is in my covering box. Wings will be covered in Easy Cote/ Solar Span.

On set up I will have up ailerons as spoilers to aid the landing works really well on the Bedlam. Will have snap flap which I can switch on and off, will also have the ailerons go up and down for a little bit of flap or reflex on a slider. This also works well on the Bedlam. Compared to the Pilatus B4 the Bedlam is fast and I expect the P6 will be faster, hope my eyes and reflexes are up to it.

Shaped the elevators and drilled the 3mm hole for the 3mm brass tube in them. Unfortunately they were straight and a slight downward angle. No problem the wire joiner now as a slight bend to compensate. Up side of the slight downward brass is it was easy to add cyno to hold the roughened brass secure as it had just come through the bottom of the elevator. Rigged it up and all works fine.

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Added some 1/32 balsa to the top of the fuz where the canopy was cut out to compensate for the balsa removed by the saw. Then sanded all to shape.

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Re: Phase 6 Sport
« Reply #97 on: October 14, 2016, 09:25:31 AM »
While surfing came across this http://www.knewt.com/planes/setup.htm article on setting up a racing glider. Now I now the P6 is not a racing glider however it does seem differential will make it fly better so I will investigate.

A question on trailing edges, should I make these as sharp as I can to aid performance or is it likely to not be worth the effort or make them too fragile?

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Re: Phase 6 Sport
« Reply #98 on: October 14, 2016, 09:42:10 AM »
There are two schools of thought. For speed do them sharp but for aeros cut them square. I would always use a bit of differential if you have two servos.

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Re: Phase 6 Sport
« Reply #99 on: October 14, 2016, 09:46:19 AM »
Sharp trailing edges on gliders are good for performance, but as you say, not so good for longevity.

Possible ways of improving this include cyanoing carbon tow ro the extreme TE, which is easier if you have to sand the aileron from bth sides - you simply cut and tiny slot where you want the te to be, work carbon tow into it, then run cyano along it..

Alternatively, cutting off the last 3/16" balsa  or so and replacing it with spruce or obechi strip, then sanding that to the sharp edge.

Is it worth it on a P6?

I would say probably not, but I might just run thin cyano into the extreme TE to harden it, and make it fairly sharp.

The sort of things Kevin flies are a world away from a P6, and he is one of the few really top pilots who can make the most of every tiny advantage he is able to gain
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Re: Phase 6 Sport
« Reply #100 on: October 14, 2016, 10:05:01 AM »
There are two schools of thought. For speed do them sharp but for aeros cut them square. I would always use a bit of differential if you have two servos.

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That's certainly true for power flying, although even there it depends a bit on whether you are talking Classic Pattern, 3D or modern F3A.

The latter two styles utilise massive power, high drag and relatively low airspeed and blunt, oven flared out TEs help with that.

But Classic type aircraft - where the idea was basically to get through the manouvers so fast the judges couldn't spot the mistakes (well, that's what I used to try anyway), and only relatively modest power, you built them sharpish.

Leaving aside the VTPR type slope flying, of which I have no real experience, my Vector 3 has sharp TEs to all surfaces, and so does my mates Voltij.

So I stand by what I said above, make them sharpish but don't worry unduly if you can't use them to peel potatoes.
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Re: Phase 6 Sport
« Reply #101 on: October 14, 2016, 16:35:36 PM »
Thanks for the feedback, sharp trailing edges done with thin cyno strengthening in place.

I agree Kevin is a top flyer and that I am not! However I will add differential on my phase switch and see what works best. I have a Cockpit SX TX so will set no differential, a little differential and a little more differential. Will be interesting to see if I a causal flyer notices any difference. I have more time to fly now so will spend more time on the P6 so hopefully my flying will improve and I will notice a difference between the differential settings. Flying is a way off but getting closer.

Added the wing dowel and it is very secure, it will come out with pliers but highly unlikely to come out on a heavy arrival.

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Fitted the wing to fuz and straightened it and measured then using car luggage straps secured wing to fuz and then marked through the hole in the wing using a 5mm wood drill. Pleasantly surprised to see it was central. So drilled the 5mm hole and put a saw above the elevator push rod just in case I drilled through too far. Will need to make the bolts shorter which will be good anyway. Save time rigging on a cold hill with a shorter nylon bolt. Also flattened the spikes on captive nut and made the 1/16 ply break plates.

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Finally cut the top balsa at rear and cut fin post to fit the triangular longerons and glued the fin. I like this way of adding a fin as it was nice and vertical. I had shaped it before gluing on.

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Need to add magnets to hatch to secure it, make the wing fairing fit nicely and add magnets to it as well. Then on to fibre and WBPU for Fuz and covering with film.

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Re: Phase 6 Sport
« Reply #102 on: October 16, 2016, 19:03:55 PM »
Spent a while trying to get the wing fairing to fit better, sort of succeeded.

Thought I would put it all together and take a look. Noticed that the tip blocks are slightly too short despite me ensuring they were glued correctly.  Another little niggle about the kit contents. Still need to shape the tips and maybe lengthen them slightly, that will be done just before I cover them.

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Balances at 4 3/4" inches which is good. I have seen people have COG as far back as 5". Once complete I will balance it at 5" and then add lead that I can easily remove to make COG 4 1/2" to start.

Weight wise currently at 42oz which ironically is target weight. Well fibre, WBPU, covering and a few minor pieces of hardware will all add weight. Not too worried by P6's weight as it will fly just a heavier wing loading!

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Re: Phase 6 Sport
« Reply #103 on: October 18, 2016, 11:33:58 AM »
Made the plug and socket for the aileron servos. Used the 6 way multiplex plug and sockets. For the plug I added some 1/32 ply using cyno to the socket so it is easier to plug in and remove on a cold slope. Also added epoxy to the wires to make them more secure.

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Secured the socket in the Fuz again using cyno and at an angle the wing is likely to leave the fuz on a heavy arrival. Added latch to front of front hatch and a magnet in fuz and on hatch to retain the hatch.

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Added magnets to the wing fairing and it is held nice and secure by them.

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Now as the wife is away looking after the grandson I can use the warm dinning room to add glass and WBPU on the fuz.

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Re: Phase 6 Sport
« Reply #104 on: October 19, 2016, 11:00:03 AM »
Added the glass and WBPU.

Not to bad, got a few crinkles in the cloth and also did not wet the first layer enough as there are a few dry spots. After 3 thin coats the weave was still showing through, maybe should have used solartex! On re-reading the instructions http://pldaniels.com/flying/balsa/fiberglassing-model-aircraft-with-water-based-polyurethane.html someone pointed me to or I found, it says!

A note to make here - most of the weight in water based polyurethane is in the water so you can actually apply a reasonably liberal amount of WBPU to the glass without worrying too much.

Maybe something to do with my Scottish heritage applying thin layers or poor memory from reading the instructions. So I have added a slightly generous 4th coat to hopefully fill the weave.

Hardly adds any weight to the model as cloth an 3 coats of WBPU added 30 grams. Does seem to add strength as the fuz is now harder to twist than it was before the covering.

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Going to start covering soon! Plan on white fuz with red rudder and blue canopy! Wings will be white on top for inner 3/4 with last 1/4 red on top. Bottom will be reverse, red for inner 3/4 and white for outer 1/4.

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Re: Phase 6 Sport
« Reply #105 on: October 19, 2016, 20:51:02 PM »
After the first few coats of WBPU you can add some microbaloons to the WBPU. Mix it in until you get a creamey conistancy. Apply with  brush as normal. Any excess sands off easily. It helps fill up the weave.

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Re: Phase 6 Sport
« Reply #106 on: October 20, 2016, 09:42:17 AM »
Thanks for that tip.

The 4th thicker coat has certainly helped. I will try the micro balloon mix with WBPU as the fuz is not as smooth as it could be. Makes me smile as I do all this extra work. The P6 should fly better but I will never know, at least I have the satisfaction of doing the best job I can to maximise the performance.

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Re: Phase 6 Sport
« Reply #107 on: November 03, 2016, 10:23:51 AM »
Covering now all done, need to add a fake canopy as IMHO they make a model look better.

Just doing hinges, adding horns and aileron servos, setting up balancing and should be done.

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Re: Phase 6 Sport
« Reply #108 on: November 09, 2016, 15:52:51 PM »
Thank you to all those who have given helpful suggestions for this build, the Phase 6 Sport is now complete. Need to shorten the aileron horn screws. With no extra lead the COG was 4 3/4 " added some lead to take it to 4 1/2 for first flights. Can always take lead out later.

Weighs in at 48 5/8 oz, 1,380 grams so a wing loading of 13oz/sq foot.

Elevator and rudder movement are as per instructions, aileron has a bit more movement currently no differential. Plan to add differential as most things I read suggest it is better. I have snap flap on a switch and ailerons are raised for landing with no elevator compensation currently might add some if needed.  Also on a slider I have a little up and down aileron for camber changing.

Here is a picture of the top and bottom, please excuse the garish red, but hopefully I will be able to make out the orientation at height.

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And a side on view as well.

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Next stop a slope nearby when weather is appropriate for a maiden flight and a report back.

Thanks again for the feedback given and help in making this model.

Tad

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Re: Phase 6 Sport
« Reply #109 on: November 09, 2016, 16:06:39 PM »
Thank you to all those who have given helpful suggestions for this build, the Phase 6 Sport is now complete. Need to shorten the aileron horn screws. With no extra lead the COG was 4 3/4 " added some lead to take it to 4 1/2 for first flights. Can always take lead out later.

Weighs in at 48 5/8 oz, 1,380 grams so a wing loading of 13oz/sq foot.

Elevator and rudder movement are as per instructions, aileron has a bit more movement currently no differential. Plan to add differential as most things I read suggest it is better. I have snap flap on a switch and ailerons are raised for landing with no elevator compensation currently might add some if needed.  Also on a slider I have a little up and down aileron for camber changing.

Here is a picture of the top and bottom, please excuse the garish red, but hopefully I will be able to make out the orientation at height.

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And a side on view as well.

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Next stop a slope nearby when weather is appropriate for a maiden flight and a report back.

Thanks again for the feedback given and help in making this model.

Tad
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Re: Phase 6 Sport
« Reply #110 on: November 10, 2016, 10:00:31 AM »
+1 to that!

Looks great and I am sure it will fly as well as it looks.
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Re: Phase 6 Sport
« Reply #111 on: November 10, 2016, 17:49:38 PM »
Thanks for the kind comments, my building is better than my flying.

Any tips to improve my flying. I tend to get to slope launch trim and pootle about and if  I gain height do a loop or roll. If the model is suitable I will occasionally do an inverted circuit.

Thanks

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Re: Phase 6 Sport
« Reply #112 on: November 13, 2016, 11:09:31 AM »
That's a difficult question!

Not least because I've never seen you fly, and others may have a better opinion of your skills than you do.

However, it seems you have mastered the basics of looping and rolling, but you don't mention rudder manouvers - even a simple stall turn. Certainly, proper use of the rudder will improve your flying, and a good way of working on that is to perfect the slow roll, which can sometimes be helped by working on 4 point rolls first.

Otherwise, try to set yourself a target for each flight, and think of each flight as a display.

When I first learned to fly i was encouraged to go through the old Standard class aerobatic schedule each flight (power, of course, slope is a bit different), just to get some discipline and routine into my flights.

And always remember, each function is fully proportional, and use them appropriately - again, in the power field, this applies to the throttle as well, which is often quite hard to get across!

Hope this helps, most importantly though  have fun!

Cheers

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Re: Phase 6 Sport
« Reply #113 on: November 14, 2016, 12:53:42 PM »
Tim,

Thank you for that I like the advice "Otherwise, try to set yourself a target for each flight, and think of each flight as a display." I am lazy with the rudder, so there is a challenge to try the 4 point roll then a slow roll. Will also look up slope sparing aerobatic routines.

I remember Dave Hughes advice when I was struggling to land well. He said come to slope fly a circuit and land and keep doing it. Helped my landings a lot.

Just need the time and a good NE blow to make the maiden!

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Re: Phase 6 Sport
« Reply #114 on: November 14, 2016, 15:39:11 PM »
Tim,

Thank you for that I like the advice "Otherwise, try to set yourself a target for each flight, and think of each flight as a display." I am lazy with the rudder, so there is a challenge to try the 4 point roll then a slow roll. Will also look up slope sparing aerobatic routines.

I remember Dave Hughes advice when I was struggling to land well. He said come to slope fly a circuit and land and keep doing it. Helped my landings a lot.

Just need the time and a good NE blow to make the maiden!

Tad
being on a decent slope helps. I used to spend ages at Ringinglow doing touch and goes!

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Re: Phase 6 Sport
« Reply #115 on: November 24, 2016, 19:07:45 PM »
Well today was the day of the P6 maiden in a strong 15mph wind! Was going to launch the Bedlam first but the captive nut to hold the wing on had come free. So rigged P6 and checked all controls and launched and fortunately she flew well and rather fast. COG seems about right rolls are fast and quite axial. Went back and forth gained height and it was confusing at times. A white glider poor light light/grey clouds. Eventually I could not work out the orientation when I was close to the top of the hill and the glider arrived nose first 9" in the ground. Well the 1/16 ply shear plate did its job wings parted from fuz no apparent damage apart from plastic clevis broken, sadly the fuz is damaged just behind the trailing edge of the wing despite me strengthening it, a serious design flaw IMH. So will take a look sometime soon and get it fixed and flying again.

Rigged and launched my 1/5 scale Pilatus, took all the down elevator to get her out and going and a lovely flight, I think I prefer the slower models at my age I can follow them. Landing was fine. Managed to tape the captive nut and had a good flight on the BEdlam and a nice smooth landing as well. Was cold and it was getting darker so home I went.

Not too despondent about P6 easily repairable.

Tad
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Re: Phase 6 Sport
« Reply #116 on: November 24, 2016, 21:32:50 PM »
...sadly the fuz is damaged just behind the trailing edge of the wing
Yep, they all do that!  Mine now sports external 1/2" x 1/8" spruce longerons!

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Re: Phase 6 Sport
« Reply #117 on: November 26, 2016, 11:30:25 AM »
And I'm not going to say "I told you so"

But........

Hope you get it fixed alright, too nice a plane to abandon!
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Re: Phase 6 Sport
« Reply #118 on: November 26, 2016, 15:49:24 PM »
I did strengthen it inside around the join, perhaps not enough.

Fortunately the wooden longerons at the bottom and 1/32 play at bottom did not snap. So I prized the gap open and put in medium cyno and held it together as it should be. Then I am going to put some glass and epoxy around the break to add some more strength.

You are right too good a model to abandon.

Tad
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Re: Phase 6 Sport
« Reply #119 on: November 26, 2016, 18:12:15 PM »
It is a superb model. 
Mine has the old central servo and torque-rods, which restricts how much aileron movement you can get.
One day I'm going to fit separate servos, surface-wired with dolls-house tape, which I'm sure will be a big improvement. 
It also has (believe it or not!) an elevator-reversing belcrank from the days before sets had reversing!



 

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