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Re: Your slope/glider related videos
« Reply #160 on: February 14, 2010, 19:31:24 PM »
My first flight with a SAL...

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Re: Your slope/glider related videos
« Reply #161 on: February 14, 2010, 20:36:18 PM »
sorted  :af
Hi Steve - headcam looking good  :af
you definitely need some sort of sighting gadget - cos if you haven't I've found that what hapens is that your eyes follow the plane, but your head (with cam attached) doesnt = plane goes out of frame.
I actually use 2x bolts on the hard hat brim, set so they are just outside my line of sight, so I've got a clear viewing area, and any "double image" of each bolt is outside that. (pic attached). It works pretty well - took a bit of experimentation to get the bolt length exactly right for the vertical aim. One day I might get round to making a more accurate Mk.2 with some kind of wire frame thingy set further from my face - but till then, I like the simplicity of the bolts.
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Re: Your slope/glider related videos
« Reply #162 on: February 14, 2010, 20:47:36 PM »
omg Phil you look scary man ! lol

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Re: Your slope/glider related videos
« Reply #163 on: February 14, 2010, 20:50:41 PM »
omg Phil you look scary man ! lol
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Re: Your slope/glider related videos
« Reply #164 on: February 14, 2010, 21:26:25 PM »
cheers phil, to make do on Saturday I stuck a nail in the front of the helmet, will rig up something more permanent for the next outing.

A vid of Saturday out with my trusty fish, my main aim on this one was to try and work with the music more, also messed with the effects more, some I like, some not so much..

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Y1u8t_qCW8" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Y1u8t_qCW8</a>
« Last Edit: February 16, 2010, 08:12:49 AM by Pasty »


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Re: Your slope/glider related videos
« Reply #165 on: February 14, 2010, 21:31:31 PM »
Wow the quality of that video is awesome. Looks like it's a high budget production! The flyings pretty top stuff too mate. Looking forward to more installments. Hopefully days of blurry dots on shaky blue sky videos are a thing of the past :af

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Re: Your slope/glider related videos
« Reply #166 on: February 14, 2010, 21:41:25 PM »
Wow - seconded Pasty. That is fantastic. Nice one :af

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Re: Your slope/glider related videos
« Reply #167 on: February 14, 2010, 22:20:50 PM »
Good vid Steve  :af

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Re: Your slope/glider related videos
« Reply #168 on: February 15, 2010, 07:12:42 AM »
Excellent vid Pasty, look forward to seeing more of your work :af

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Re: Your slope/glider related videos
« Reply #169 on: February 15, 2010, 08:43:25 AM »
Thanks for the feedback guys

I wanted to incorporate both your above suggestions Mike but the editing software wouldnt do the overlapping without some faff (should be a simple task of adding another video timeline and adjusting transparency) and wouldnt do a controlled zoom at all.

This was edited with Cyberlink Power Director 8, altho a step up from basic its still too limiting on what it can do and how it goes about doing what it can do. It'll be the last time I use it, I must get to grips with Premiere Pro or might look at Sony Vegas next.

Some of my personal thoughts on the vid are, too many effects, some effects are naff, alot of the scenes need the editing refined (e.g in and out) and need more camera angles (particlarly with plane in shot)... I could go on but its all to easy to be self critical :)

I've learnt alot filming and editing this vid, challenging but I enjoyed every moment of it  :af

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« Last Edit: February 15, 2010, 08:56:05 AM by Pasty »

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Re: Your slope/glider related videos
« Reply #170 on: February 15, 2010, 09:00:08 AM »
Really nice vid mate. Roll on the summer skies.
Looks like you've inspired a few others to up their game.

Don't bother with the full version of Premiere. The Lite version is perfect for everything short of full TV broadcast spec video. The stuff missing from the full version is stuff you'll never really need. I've never found it to be unable to do what I want.

And don't bother with anything else. Premiere is the serious pro app that you can effectively run on a home PC.
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Re: Your slope/glider related videos
« Reply #171 on: February 15, 2010, 10:03:30 AM »
Hi Guys

Anyone give me some help with a video problem I have all my plane vids seem to come out heavily interlaced is it something I am doing wrong?

I have a panosonic NV GS180  and edit with adobe premiere Elements.

I found a de interlace setting on the adobe and ran the footage again it actually looked worse?  (for example)

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Help 

is it the youtube effect or something else?

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Re: Your slope/glider related videos
« Reply #172 on: February 15, 2010, 11:01:26 AM »

I found a de interlace setting on the adobe and ran the footage again it actually looked worse?  (for example)



I'm using Premier 6 so this may no help, but I've found the best way to deinterlace is to import the raw avi file right click on the clip in the Timeline, go to 'field options' and click on 'always deinterlace'. I've found this to be the most consistant way of knocking it out. Any other 'effects' just tend to blur things a bit or, as you say, make it worse.

Premier 6 is a bit dated now to say the least, but I think the key is to adjust the fields at source rather than apply an effect.

Hopefully someone else can chip in who's up to speed on Elements.
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Re: Your slope/glider related videos
« Reply #173 on: February 15, 2010, 11:09:50 AM »
I bought Premier but I've realised I prefer the latest version of Windows Movie Maker (free), it's good and avoids all these sorts of hassles.  Bit annoyed I paid for something now!

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Re: Your slope/glider related videos
« Reply #174 on: February 15, 2010, 11:41:53 AM »
Really nice vid mate. Roll on the summer skies.
Looks like you've inspired a few others to up their game.

Don't bother with the full version of Premiere. The Lite version is perfect for everything short of full TV broadcast spec video. The stuff missing from the full version is stuff you'll never really need. I've never found it to be unable to do what I want.

And don't bother with anything else. Premiere is the serious pro app that you can effectively run on a home PC.


Cheers John, I've already got prem pro so unless I get pc performance improvements with the lesser version I'll stick with pro,  is it just that pro has more function but is essentially the same user interface as elements/lite?

My pc does struggle a little with the high def vid once you get a the video nearing completion.
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Re: Your slope/glider related videos
« Reply #175 on: February 15, 2010, 18:57:07 PM »
A bit of a re-edit to take out some of the effects, its a bit better.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Y1u8t_qCW8" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Y1u8t_qCW8</a>

cheers

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Re: Your slope/glider related videos
« Reply #176 on: February 15, 2010, 19:06:09 PM »
meanwhile, out in deepest space...

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Re: Your slope/glider related videos
« Reply #177 on: February 15, 2010, 19:29:48 PM »
I want one!

I think the warp drive may require a jet B cert though.

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Re: Your slope/glider related videos
« Reply #178 on: February 15, 2010, 19:43:14 PM »
A bit of a re-edit to take out some of the effects, its a bit better.
cheers

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Too cool for school. Yet another belter of a video mate. Sad (and quite gay sounding) as it is, I really look forward to your vids. Top draw stuff mate. Top draw.
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Re: Your slope/glider related videos
« Reply #179 on: February 15, 2010, 22:24:25 PM »
Good rework, excellent.

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Re: Your slope/glider related videos
« Reply #180 on: February 16, 2010, 07:50:47 AM »
For me moving forward it will always be to find a sound track that fits the mood/tempo and work the vid to that, I spent ages ummming, errring and cussing trying to find a decent track for the last one. Having said that a track should fit the mood, with good editing you can change the mood of the video to some extent.

Working to a sound track is time consuming, can be frustrating, you need plenty of video footage and camera angles but the results are so much more rewarding and enjoyable to watch.
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Re: Your slope/glider related videos
« Reply #181 on: February 16, 2010, 08:36:57 AM »
For me moving forward it will always be to find a sound track that fits the mood/tempo and work the vid to that, I spent ages ummming, errring and cussing trying to find a decent track for the last one. Having said that a track should fit the mood, with good editing you can change the mood of the video to some extent.

Working to a sound track is time consuming, can be frustrating, you need plenty of video footage and camera angles but the results are so much more rewarding and enjoyable to watch.

Can I make a suggestion?
Next time you're listening to music imagine the flying you do to it. Then take the music to the slope and wear 'phones or a mini speaker in your pocket just to get the rhythm and vibe right. I have half a dozen songs on my iPod that are characterised by the style I want to see in a vid. I have a perfect one for a cruising California '70s feel that would be great for a JART (Theme from 'Bullit'. A more chilled version is the closing credits) some great jazz (Esbjorn Svensson Trio - Seven days of Falling - title track for starters) for lighter days and some exceptional driving stuff for acro. I now have the cameras sorted so I'm looking forward to getting out on the hill next month and doing it.
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Re: Your slope/glider related videos
« Reply #182 on: February 16, 2010, 08:55:59 AM »
Steve (Pasty) now you've cracked the freestyle artistic video bit, all you need now is fifteen cool precision aero moves and you'll be a front runner in the Ian Cole International Aerobatic comp! :af

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Re: Your slope/glider related videos
« Reply #183 on: February 16, 2010, 10:24:06 AM »
Cracked?! I've only just started :)

What Ians doing is great if you're into that kinda thing but for me its all a bit soulless, theres no motivator for me to take part.

If he'd run it as a general video comp but it had to include some of the disiplined moves but still allowed freestyle I'd be more interested.

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Re: Your slope/glider related videos
« Reply #184 on: February 16, 2010, 11:25:29 AM »
I always upload the video then put some music in , several bits of music in , when I find the one that sort of fits I then edit the vid round that to suit , I lack the camera angles ( Never really tried it ) but find I enjoy watching my vids a while after I have done them just to remind me of the feeling I had flying that day :) . Unfortunately 90% of my videos are of someone else due to not having someone to do the camera, I will have a bash at the tripod thing and will be getting a head cam setup soon , I still think we have enough pilots/models/sites to rival the lift ticket stuff just need to put it all together.

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Re: Your slope/glider related videos
« Reply #185 on: February 16, 2010, 11:30:26 AM »
Yep, shame Ian wasn't interested in separating the comp into two, so you could choose the one you wanted.
I hope I'm wrong but I just can't see many people going to all that trouble of videoing the two parts.
I'm retired, got a headcam going and plenty of time, but doubt I'll give it a go.
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Re: Your slope/glider related videos
« Reply #186 on: February 16, 2010, 12:41:24 PM »
I doubt I'd do it even if it had great prizes, I dont do it for material gain, for kudos, to be the best or whatever, I do this stuff for me because I enjoy it, the flying, the filming, the entire adventure... and of cause memories.

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Re: Your slope/glider related videos
« Reply #187 on: February 16, 2010, 13:04:42 PM »
well done steve great vid there a credit to you mate keep em coming a joy to watch on a wet afternoon col  :af

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Re: Your slope/glider related videos
« Reply #188 on: February 16, 2010, 18:43:08 PM »
A bit of a re-edit to take out some of the effects, its a bit better.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Y1u8t_qCW8" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Y1u8t_qCW8</a>

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Re: Your slope/glider related videos
« Reply #189 on: February 16, 2010, 23:42:52 PM »
   Firstly, lads, great work on those videos.I am a newbie and thought this looks like the perfect place for me to show you the video I made late last November at a spot we are lucky to have up in the wilds of Northumberland- yeah, it´s true what they say, it´s grim up north, haha, but we love it! Hopefully you´ll understand why if you watch the video- good flyin´, good friends, good fun. Weyaye! The vid was edited using an early version of pinnacle,with a little help from handbrake, hope you enjoy watching it as much as I enjoyed making it.................
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Re: Your slope/glider related videos
« Reply #190 on: February 17, 2010, 07:55:25 AM »
Hi Enrico- great (secret) spot you've got there! Nice vid, enjoyed the tracks. Always good to see different parts of the country and flying styles. Keep 'em coming :af

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Re: Your slope/glider related videos
« Reply #191 on: February 17, 2010, 11:09:55 AM »
Hi Enrico- great (secret) spot you've got there! Nice vid, enjoyed the tracks. Always good to see different parts of the country and flying styles. Keep 'em coming :af
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Re: Your slope/glider related videos
« Reply #192 on: February 17, 2010, 12:04:05 PM »
Now ask him how he got home & what he thinks of the AA.  :ev
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Re: Your slope/glider related videos
« Reply #193 on: February 17, 2010, 12:21:40 PM »
I would like to make a general observation that conerns this subject.  I don't mean to point fingers at anyone in particular, please note that this is in general, and is just one persons' personal point of view. 

My point is this:  In general, I believe that videos posted are too long.  I am as enthusiastic about gliders as the next man, but only in very exceptional cases am I able to last more than about 25 - 30% of the average video before moving on. 

Tight editing is the key IMO. 

I do understand that that must be very difficult for someone who is working with footage of their own flying, or flying that they have spent long, cold hours trying to capture.  If, however, you are intending the video to be for general publication on a forum or utube, etc. (and not just for your personal enjoyment), I think it is important to try and see the work from the perspective of a relative "stranger".

I am middle-aged, so like to think I'm not a member of a generation that is often accused of having a short attention span due to media exposure from a young age (we only got TV in S Africa about 10 years after the UK :'(), but I find a video lasting more than 3 minutes difficult to justify... 

I believe most of the important moves and moments of flying and the "atmosphere" of the day of the average video can very easily be captured within that time frame.

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Re: Your slope/glider related videos
« Reply #194 on: February 17, 2010, 12:30:36 PM »
Chris - I tend to agree with you - 3mins max is about right - and the better the content/editing, the more it holds my attention. Not an easy task though, when you're actually more interested in flying the plane at the time of videoing. What's being discussed here is starting to go beyond that - to the video being the important thing - with great end results. I'm still happy watching "low quality" stuff though, if the content / plane / flying holds my attention.
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Re: Your slope/glider related videos
« Reply #195 on: February 17, 2010, 12:42:12 PM »
I also agree, altho I'll stretch to 4mins if the production/editing is good (I've lost count of the times I've watched the Karl Superd Windrider Fox video which is 4.20 I think). To go any longer the video needs to tell a good story with a start, middle and end.

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Re: Your slope/glider related videos
« Reply #196 on: February 17, 2010, 12:45:59 PM »
OK, i'l risk it. How did you get home then Enrico, and what do you think of the AA :''
 Remember though, bad language will not be tolerated ;)

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Re: Your slope/glider related videos
« Reply #197 on: February 17, 2010, 13:41:41 PM »
(I've lost count of the times I've watched the Karl Superd Windrider Fox video which is 4.20 I think).
Yes, indeed, I never even noticed how long that video is :''!  There are other examples of excellent longer videos, no doubt about it.
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Re: Your slope/glider related videos
« Reply #198 on: February 17, 2010, 15:10:20 PM »
+1 more for 3 min max. (although I'm sometimes guilty of going over :-\)
Lots of times I look back and think some of mine could have been no more than 1.5 mins.
A short sharp look at a new model, or flying site etc is all that's needed.
But as I mentioned earlier- keep 'em coming :af
 

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Re: Your slope/glider related videos
« Reply #199 on: February 17, 2010, 17:14:17 PM »
A short sharp look at a new model, or flying site etc is all that's needed.


Really?

I'd rather see an entertaining, well filmed, produced and edited video of a crap plane being flown craply on a crap site than watch a bland video of an awesome plane being flown amazingly on a top site.



 

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