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Re: Central Scotland
« Reply #40 on: January 12, 2010, 23:22:42 PM »
I flew Hanggliders in Scotland (and other places too) for 16 years,
I _Know_ there are some absolutely _stonking_ places to get a good downwind shear layer, one is mid point between Aberdeen and Edinburgh and has a chairlift to the top. in a NNE (obviously in summer or you'll die of hypothermia or exhaustion from beating stupid skiers on principle)
A bowl we used to call the "washing machine" flew through the boundary layer there before I (or anyone else for that matter) knew what it was called.

glorious scenery, minor yomp (if the chair is running) would be a stonking day out. and as long as it's not due west, there is a frontside to fly (it takes all directions bar due west)

I mean, look at this.



Wind blowing from lower right of picture,
Pick a direction, any direction and there is a good lee side slope which should have a decent boundary over it.
There are easy "drive ups" which have similar front and lee side soaring slopes.
(usually pretty damn breezy tho 20+ kts)

Just need to find some other loonatics to go out to play with . .  :study:
and practise frontside then get an indestructible slab of carbon to whang round at a horrific rate of kts. . .  :af

Always good to have a plan.
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Re: Central Scotland
« Reply #41 on: January 13, 2010, 09:40:54 AM »
One of the slopes we race on in Fife has a big drop on the lee side and has been DS-ed by a few of us with F3F and foamie models. The first time I have heard about was back when the last Viking race was held there in 2006. Some of the competitors showed what was possible. The main problem is it is a popular place for hill walkers so waiting for a quiet time can require patience. Week days are best.

Video shows an Ellipse testing the air in 2008.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJEImz4jrW8" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJEImz4jrW8</a>

You are correct though, there must be countless places although many of them will require a good trek to get there.

G
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Re: Central Scotland
« Reply #42 on: January 14, 2010, 12:42:05 PM »
Scottish gliding calender now available:-

Summer 2010

All welcome. :)

George
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Campsies on Sunday
« Reply #43 on: January 15, 2010, 16:40:02 PM »
Just in case anyone reads this and missed the e-mails, a group of us are getting together this Sunday on the Campsies above Lennoxtown.

Here’s a streetmap link pointing at the car park.

Streetmap - Maps and directions for the whole of Great Britain

 
From the East, Best route is probably down the M9 past Stirling turn off for A803 (Kilsyth) then A891 (Lennoxtown).  In Lennoxtown, look for a small antique shop on the right hand side ‘Campsie Antiques’, take the right turn at the shop to head up the hill (B822).  The car park’s on your left as the road takes a hairpin right.

 If you're coming from the west, then I guess you know where Lennoxtown is alredy!

From the car park, walk straight up the hill almost to the little stone hut, then turn right.  As you go through the rocks, there’s a tiny burn to cross.  The higher up you are when you cross, the less muddy it is.  The normal flying site is about 200m from there.  Look for a slight mound with 2 semi circular scrapes where sheep sometimes shelter.  The landing site’s behind you.

See you there, and let's hope the weather forecast's right for once.

David


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Re: Central Scotland
« Reply #44 on: January 16, 2010, 12:01:39 PM »
Hi David

Yes, I've got my fingers crossed that the forecast is correct. :xx Absolutely pouring here this morning. :study:

I'm looking forward to getting some flying in; it must be at least three weeks since I was last out. It will be good to try a different slope too; a chance to see what you and Dave have been raving about :af

George
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Re: Central Scotland
« Reply #45 on: January 16, 2010, 12:47:13 PM »
I flew Hanggliders in Scotland (and other places too) for 16 years,
I _Know_ there are some absolutely _stonking_ places to get a good downwind shear layer, one is mid point between Aberdeen and Edinburgh and has a chairlift to the top. in a NNE (obviously in summer or you'll die of hypothermia or exhaustion from beating stupid skiers on principle)
A bowl we used to call the "washing machine" flew through the boundary layer there before I (or anyone else for that matter) knew what it was called.

glorious scenery, minor yomp (if the chair is running) would be a stonking day out. and as long as it's not due west, there is a frontside to fly (it takes all directions bar due west)

I mean, look at this.



Wind blowing from lower right of picture,
Pick a direction, any direction and there is a good lee side slope which should have a decent boundary over it.
There are easy "drive ups" which have similar front and lee side soaring slopes.
(usually pretty damn breezy tho 20+ kts)

Just need to find some other loonatics to go out to play with . .  :study:
and practise frontside then get an indestructible slab of carbon to whang round at a horrific rate of kts. . .  :af

Always good to have a plan.


Where is that place...I'd love to go walking there  :af
I must get out more...

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Re: Central Scotland
« Reply #46 on: January 16, 2010, 16:43:00 PM »
Where is that place...I'd love to go walking there  :af

Yes, I wondered where it is too and I live about halfway between Edinburgh and Aberdeen!  $%&

Looking south down Loch Muick?  $%&

George
« Last Edit: January 16, 2010, 16:47:41 PM by Velcro »
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Re: Central Scotland
« Reply #47 on: January 17, 2010, 01:15:22 AM »
Glenshee.

Up the main chair behind the restaurant.

Get off the chair and carry on up the hill towards the weather station.

At the weather station, look down the Valley towards Spital of Glenshee.
On your right, is this bowl.

Absolutely vast. makes the 'merican slopes look positively weedy. and we don't have to wait for "the santa anna" to blow (more like wait for the wind to calm down so we can stand up  :'')

Will take everything from SSW round (clockwise) to E there are big soft landing areas to be had but you do need to pick them as there are some house sized rocks too.

If the chair isn't running it's a 25min hike from the car park up 1100' feet to the top and then walk round to wherever it's on from there.
There is a "road" well, track.
Chair is running occasionally in the summer.

is there another board used by slopers in Scotland?
Been exchanging e-mails with Joe Manor, might get a bit more serious by April . .  :af

« Last Edit: January 17, 2010, 01:21:56 AM by Airwave »
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Re: Central Scotland
« Reply #48 on: January 18, 2010, 14:54:38 PM »
Cairnwell eh? I like the idea of a chairlift to the top. Hmm... I can see me planning a visit soon.
Thanks for the suggestion :af

I don't know of any other, specific to Scotland, boards in use.  $%&

George
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Re: Campsies on Sunday
« Reply #49 on: January 18, 2010, 14:57:23 PM »
Just in case anyone reads this and missed the e-mails, a group of us are getting together this Sunday on the Campsies above Lennoxtown.

Here’s a streetmap link pointing at the car park.

Streetmap - Maps and directions for the whole of Great Britain

 
From the East, Best route is probably down the M9 past Stirling turn off for A803 (Kilsyth) then A891 (Lennoxtown).  In Lennoxtown, look for a small antique shop on the right hand side ‘Campsie Antiques’, take the right turn at the shop to head up the hill (B822).  The car park’s on your left as the road takes a hairpin right.

 If you're coming from the west, then I guess you know where Lennoxtown is alredy!

From the car park, walk straight up the hill almost to the little stone hut, then turn right.  As you go through the rocks, there’s a tiny burn to cross.  The higher up you are when you cross, the less muddy it is.  The normal flying site is about 200m from there.  Look for a slight mound with 2 semi circular scrapes where sheep sometimes shelter.  The landing site’s behind you.

See you there, and let's hope the weather forecast's right for once.

David



A great site and easy access. Good to get some flying in too; we had a great time.
G
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Re: Central Scotland
« Reply #50 on: March 25, 2010, 21:08:41 PM »
Hi everyone,thought its about time i joined up here. Its ian simpson by the way. :nananana:

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Re: Central Scotland
« Reply #51 on: March 26, 2010, 07:30:06 AM »
Hi everyone,thought its about time i joined up here. Its ian simpson by the way. :nananana:

Hi Ian
Glad you decided to post; things have been a bit quiet here for a while. Looking like good westerlies tomorrow; ideal for Bishop but I'm pretty sure lambing is on so access may be a problem. Don't fancy that climb up from the front; I did that last year and was knackered for the rest of the week! Perfect day for a competition though! Bet your Big Bird would like it!

If I can escape I'll maybe try Spildinkie but the builder is in re-fitting the bathroom so not sure I can get away. :'(
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Re: Central Scotland
« Reply #52 on: March 27, 2010, 13:31:05 PM »
I wont make it out at all this weekend. Good day for it today though.

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Re: Central Scotland
« Reply #53 on: March 29, 2010, 09:20:09 AM »
On Sunday morning I had a few hours on my own up Gallow Hill with my Skorp in 30+ winds.  :af
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Re: Central Scotland
« Reply #54 on: April 15, 2010, 20:32:35 PM »
Here is an old 8mm movie of slope soaring on East Lomond in the 1970's

Limbo comp - anyone remember being there?

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-16nhniF5Pc" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-16nhniF5Pc</a>
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Re: Central Scotland
« Reply #55 on: April 15, 2010, 21:17:44 PM »
Excellent :af

Do you have any more footage? I'm much too young to identify the models :'' and I'm afraid I don't recognise anyone there. I lived south of Edinburgh back then and didn't know about East Lomond.

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Re: Central Scotland
« Reply #56 on: April 15, 2010, 21:51:04 PM »
Superb, thanks R101.

I had a good chuckle watching that, how hard could it be? Obviously a lot harder with the models and radio systems back then!

I don't recognise anyone either, it may even be before Ron moved to Glenrothes?

I possibly wasn't born at that time :''

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Re: Central Scotland
« Reply #57 on: April 15, 2010, 21:54:27 PM »
 Here is another short film of the limbo comp - sorry for the quality - boy it was good fun in them days

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Af8rPWfQhc" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Af8rPWfQhc</a>

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Re: Central Scotland
« Reply #58 on: April 15, 2010, 22:51:09 PM »
More atmospheric footage Lew; the grainy look only adds to it. What a find. Thanks for posting it. We take video for granted these days but lugging a cine camera up a hill in Fife back then would need a certain determination!

George
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Re: Central Scotland
« Reply #59 on: April 16, 2010, 09:17:20 AM »
I think I see Ian Dunn and Andy Lewis in some of those shots?
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Re: Central Scotland
« Reply #60 on: April 16, 2010, 09:59:18 AM »
Yes well, i do believe that I was there as well. Just because it was before I moved to Glenrothes did not mean I did not travel to comps :-). Even from when I lived in Bo'ness I did make the journey to EL and beyond. 
Who do I recognise, Lew W himself winning the trophy, are you still in Menstrie Lew?
Dave northam presenting the trophy to Lew, a great flier from back then, unfortunately no longer with us.
I think Andy Lewis, a couple of visitors from Englandshire, yes they used to come North of the border and I think Neil Gillies and possibly Tom Hedley. I am trying to identify the models and then put names to their owners but struggling a bit. :) Great footage though and for Peter's thoughts, in those days Limbo was fun but costly, even though the models were banded together, it was in the days when you had to learn to land not just slap the brakes out like we do now.
It is easy to organise, and with the foamies we have, who knows what would be possible at the weekend of the 1st of May. Oh dear that's just a fortnight away.

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Re: Central Scotland
« Reply #61 on: April 22, 2010, 00:17:42 AM »
Good to see you have found RCMF Ron.

The hill looks different back then. It may sound daft but the grass seems to be greener? Did there used to be sheep up there to keep it shorter?

I also like the way the wings actually flap on the model with no dihedral ^-^ Probably a design feature

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Re: Central Scotland
« Reply #62 on: May 09, 2010, 22:21:57 PM »
Hi Roy

Stoney eh?

There must be some great east facing coastal sites near you. Mmmm... :af

George


Been "working" quite hard  :'' managed to get 13 days at home this year so far.
(and a ticking off from the mods  :-X )
But did manage to bodge together a Windrider Scout Bee 60" wing.
The boy came along to take pictures too, so posted here for your delectation
biff with bad hat.

Pre aviation survey

Showing the good lady wifelet the wrong way to launch a wing

Selection of duff site leads to "much downness"

Followed by much "bottom landingness"

Site 2 (if at first you don't succeed, move so no one knows you messed up)

less downness

Soaring !

and, staying upness !  :co

followed by despatching offspring to retrive wing via barbed and electrified fences.

he's a guid loon really.

Still waiting on deliveries of plastic, hope to be able to fling some plastic later this month.
anyone got a recommendation for a good rucksac?
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Re: Central Scotland
« Reply #63 on: May 15, 2010, 23:05:52 PM »
Been away and just seen this.

Nice coastal site Roy and your Bee looks the business although I have reservations aboot that bunnet :D.
That looks suspiciously like Dunnottar Castle in some of the shots. Not a million miles from me.

Hope your new model arrives soon and look forward to seeing some pictures :af
 
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Re: Central Scotland
« Reply #64 on: May 18, 2010, 05:45:13 AM »
"reservations aboot the bunnet" ? whaddayamean . . .  >:( that wiz 2.50 from Primark.. it might look lile shoite, but I'll have you know,  it's cheap shoite. ;D

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Re: Central Scotland
« Reply #65 on: May 18, 2010, 09:00:01 AM »
"reservations aboot the bunnet" ? whaddayamean . . .  >:( that wiz 2.50 from Primark.. it might look lile shoite, but I'll have you know,  it's cheap shoite. ;D


:D I like to wear a hat too :af
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Re: Central Scotland
« Reply #66 on: June 16, 2010, 16:47:44 PM »
anyone flown recently? any pictures?

(almost)Expat Jock stuck in the sandpit feeling homesick . . .  :''
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Re: Central Scotland
« Reply #67 on: June 18, 2010, 21:37:57 PM »
Too busy with work etc to get out much these days. Im hoping next time i get out it will be ballistic lift. If your looking for a winch i think there is one for sale here in perth. Im sure andy lewis advertised it on f3f groups for somebody else. Do you fly full size?

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Re: Central Scotland
« Reply #68 on: June 18, 2010, 22:07:25 PM »
anyone flown recently? any pictures?

(almost)Expat Jock stuck in the sandpit feeling homesick . . .  :''


Our last F3F competition was at the end of May and the weather has been too good since then. Sunny and no wind! Not like Scotland at all.  $%&

Looking good for some flying tomorrow though. Forecast fine with 25-39 mph winds which is likely to be more on the hill. Better not forget to pack the ballast :af
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Re: Central Scotland
« Reply #69 on: June 18, 2010, 22:20:15 PM »
As a sasanuch or close to it as may  be I have to say the gliding club at deeside looks wonderful.
Any landing you can walk away from is a good one.
You may need a box of tissues though!

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Re: Central Scotland
« Reply #70 on: June 19, 2010, 16:33:25 PM »
Long post, go get a cuppa

Aboyne Gliding club is a _magical_ place, absolutely magical.
Friendly, well organised. Go.

These are posts lifted from the ADS site (I posted them, I can lift them)  ;D

Well, last day in the UK for ages, decided to get the whole tribe out for a stroll.
and sneak in a wee flight in the process.
 
Is it far to go Da?


I could be chasing wabbits if this bam wouldn't keep chucking things off cliffs . . .



SWMBO demonstrating "good form" (at least in the trial launch phase)



Ohh! innit windy (and gusting, and crossed)  



Like, really windy



Lorraine, pointy bit to the front . . .



Good form !  



Look, if you wanted a new hat, why didn't you say?



Please tell me it's pointed into wind?



She's blown it again, hasn't she?



How hard can it be?



Now, remember, pointy bit forward  8-)



Looks good, and  



Go!



good launch !



weeeeeee



Holey poop this thing is faaaaaaaaast  



Now, the _bottom_ was striped across the way?
Doh . . .



Oh good, I can see the top again   (seems to be mid cartwheel though)



Not a mark on it; Awesome piece of kit



Had a great day out, whole tribe.
I wholeheartedly recommend The St Cyrus hotel for lunch. reasonable prices, superb food, friendly.
We will be back.

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Having finally had some time in Sunny (and it was, I got burnt  ??? ) Calder Park.

He who flies a very nice Spitfire (I notice the pilot has bailed   asked about the Kong Fu DLG I was making myself dizzy with.


Our illustrious Chairthing did ask for info on this, once I had gotten over the shock of the requirement to leave the windaes open oan ma car (so he can fly the spitfire through it rather than into it . . . )  
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obviously, ahem, artistic license here, a chairman would _never_ do that  :''

I had a look around on't 'interweb to find out the stuff he's asked for  . .
RHIP
(Rank hath it's privelidges)

I bought mine from Sloperacer http://www.sloperacer.co.uk
I spoke to Zim (Warrick) who runs it and he's a very nice chap indeed.

If you buy the kit to build yirsel, this is what you get


Pre Glassed wings, and all the gubbins you need (Bar electronics)
Due to being at work, constantly, I asked Zim to have it built for me.
Now, he did say it was an _involved_ build and would take some time.
I was told Tony Fu would be doing the build http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=997841

Apparently, the Kung Foo comes with "pull pull" on the elevator and rudder, Tony launched them (patently a man who pays more attention to detail than me) and buried springs in the control surfaces then installed a pull carbon tow to each surface (the spring entirely removing the slop from the system)

Of the two DLG's I got, Tony's build on what is perceived as the cheaper (i.e. lower quality) of the two kits (Blaster2 v Kung Foo) makes the Kung Foo waaaaaaaaaaaaaay nicer to fly.

however, the Blaster is a bit of a "blast" (ok, I'll take the "pun fine")
Small | Large


The Blaster "looks" better and Adam Lambretta (who built the Blaster) had access to an Regulator cum Low Batt alarm which he fitted to the Blaster, I must admit the low batt alarm gives me a bit more confidence to keep flying something with a 350 Mah battery, so by default, I'll fly the blaster.

in the air.

The Kung Foo is nicer, more responsive, easier to fly.

The Blaster does look a lot better tho.

Zim, Sloperacer.
(fek knows what his e-mail addy is, but you'll get it off his website  )


Quote
Third article, Simon flies for QA, 777's now.




Met up with Simon down here in sunny Doha and been out a couple of times with him.
He's working here on a new contract and flies 'leccy planes at home in englandshire.

"Loaned" him my Mini Katana while I came back to Stoney for the weekend last weekend and we went out for a play yesterday.
He's flying it as he was using it as a testbed for his new Hitec radio

Small | Large


We think an aileron servo popped during the flight and know that the elevator servo was partially stripped . .  but, hey ho.

another one bites the dust.
Have an "addiction" being prepped up, will be ready next time I get some time ashore




http://www.fly-ads.co.uk/

Are a _seriously_ nice bunch of guys.
Only managed to get out and meet up once but, as soon as I get enough time off, I'll be back.
Thanks for the recomendation  :af





Sleep 'till you are hungry, eat 'till you are tired.
Being a service hand is great :-)

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Re: Central Scotland
« Reply #71 on: July 25, 2010, 01:10:09 AM »
Grabbed a few bits of video from the day on East Lomond - it's much easier to catch the modes in frame when the wind's not blowing!

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czU1GlmngQA" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czU1GlmngQA</a>

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Re: Central Scotland
« Reply #72 on: July 26, 2010, 08:15:36 AM »
Good video David. Interesting to see the importance of getting the turns right and keeping the correct line is in the light conditions. Some of my turns were ok but others....  $%&

From the times I got that must have been rounds 3 & 4; two of my better rounds.  :af

No sub-40s this time though :D

There is a report on the day here if anyone wants a look.

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Re: Central Scotland
« Reply #73 on: September 22, 2010, 20:19:36 PM »
Bit quiet around here. :'' Anybody been flying recently? I have hardly been out this year at all.

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Re: Central Scotland
« Reply #74 on: September 22, 2010, 21:03:42 PM »
Not had model up Castlelaw since July. Weather and job intervene all the time. Hope maybe for Harbour Hill on Sunday.

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Re: Central Scotland
« Reply #75 on: September 23, 2010, 07:33:08 AM »
Bit quiet around here. :'' Anybody been flying recently? I have hardly been out this year at all.

You need to stop working so much Ian  ;D

Last flying I did was at the BMFA F3F Nats at Hole of Horcum on 4+5th September and been away on holiday since then. Hoping to get to the F3F event planned for Saturday if the weather is ok :xx

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Re: Central Scotland
« Reply #76 on: September 26, 2010, 07:59:28 AM »
Anyone flown off the Heads of Ayr or Dunure coast? Google earth looks quite interesting, but someone must have done it before.

I might have a chance to try it monday pm or tuesday early.

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East Facing Slopes
« Reply #77 on: October 07, 2010, 12:07:58 PM »
Looks like 20mph easterlies this weekend. Where can I go sloper soaring in East Central Scotland?

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Re: East Facing Slopes
« Reply #78 on: October 07, 2010, 16:02:46 PM »
Looks like 20mph easterlies this weekend. Where can I go sloper soaring in East Central Scotland?


If you are near Edinburgh check out Hillend (above the artificial ski slope). The Forth Valley Soarers
website gives directions. This is probably the best known public site.

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Slopes in Scotland
« Reply #79 on: October 16, 2010, 00:42:05 AM »
Hi, I recently spent some time touring the highlands (stunning scenery :)).  Does anyone know of any slopes in the Fort William - Oban area?  I saw plenty of great looking slopes but didn't have the time to figure out how to access them.

Tony.


 

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