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Re: South Cotswold Slopers!
« Reply #280 on: October 06, 2009, 21:44:32 PM »
Look at it this way - you can get the DX7 and *five* new receivers for the price of the DSX9. Do you really need those extra 2 unused channels? How would you feel about treading on a 500 Tx on the slope?

If you really need all those model memories just get two DX7s for the price of one DSX9, then you get *40* model memories and a spare Tx...


I have the DX7 for my helis and indoor flying, I like but it will not do the mixes needed for a 4 servo wing.
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Re: South Cotswold Slopers!
« Reply #281 on: October 06, 2009, 21:50:30 PM »
I have the DX7 for my helis and indoor flying, I like but it will not do the mixes needed for a 4 servo wing.
Phil

I had a quick skim around before I wrote that.. the DSX9 doesn't seem very popular amongst the competitive glider fraternity - too pricey and not enough features. I don't know what they go for instead.

The question then becomes - does Andy need a full four servo wing setup or can the DX7 do enough for his PSS collection?
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Re: South Cotswold Slopers!
« Reply #282 on: October 06, 2009, 21:53:18 PM »
I have the DX7 for my helis and indoor flying, I like but it will not do the mixes needed for a 4 servo wing.
Phil

So would you prefer a 9 channel tx Phil?
It's for the exact reason you state that i'm tempted by a 9 rather than a 7 even though it's more than double the price. At the moment I only have one model with four servo wings, but i'm absolutely sure it won't be the last.
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I've had a brief look at the 2.4 section on here and the one comment that is thrown up more times than not is, buy the best you can afford. The 9 would be right up at the top of my capacity but it could be done. Just.
Hopefully it'll last for a good few years so the money invested wouldn't be wasted.
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Keen to get your views as always gents.
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Re: South Cotswold Slopers!
« Reply #283 on: October 06, 2009, 21:56:19 PM »
At the moment I only have one model with four servo wings, but i'm absolutely sure it won't be the last.
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It's almost like you're actually into collecting planes really - you just fly them to cull the weaklings...
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Re: South Cotswold Slopers!
« Reply #284 on: October 06, 2009, 22:02:16 PM »
It's almost like you're actually into collecting planes really - you just fly them to cull the weaklings...
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Not guilty your honour!
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Just been thinking about it and the DSX9 is pretty much identical to the older DS9X2 (the 35mhz job), whilst the DX7 is all but identical to the 2720. If the links are no more than 35 v 2.4, I think there's no contest in terms of which is the better set.
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Re: South Cotswold Slopers!
« Reply #285 on: October 06, 2009, 22:08:46 PM »
Just been thinking about it and the DSX9 is pretty much identical to the older DS9X2 (the 35mhz job), whilst the DX7 is all but identical to the 2720. If the links are no more than 35 v 2.4, I think there's no contest in terms of which is the better set.
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It *should* be better but is it twice-the-price better?

How about getting the 35MHz set and a 2.4 module?

Anyway, that's me done for tonight  :study:
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Re: South Cotswold Slopers!
« Reply #286 on: October 07, 2009, 18:19:23 PM »
Right.. next time I get it up ::) looks like it will be Sunday morning at Selsley (if the wind and rain stay like XCWeather is surrently predicting).

I want to get that Relic up and flying, soI need some clues about seating the wings - they use bands, and are built up balsa roughly fitting onto a balsa fuselage. So...

- how many bands do I need to get? and how tight should they be?

- what do you use to seat the wings to the fus? double sided foam tape? single sided? draught excluder?

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Re: South Cotswold Slopers!
« Reply #287 on: October 07, 2009, 21:20:23 PM »
Right.. next time I get it up ::) looks like it will be Sunday morning at Selsley (if the wind and rain stay like XCWeather is surrently predicting).
ME TOO.
I want to get that Relic up and flying, soI need some clues about seating the wings - they use bands, and are built up balsa roughly fitting onto a balsa fuselage. So...

- how many bands do I need to get? and how tight should they be?
2 OR 4 DEPENDING ON THE FIT. aS TIGHT AS THEY CAN BE WITHOUT LEAVING AN IMPRESSION ON THE WING
- what do you use to seat the wings to the fus? double sided foam tape? single sided? draught excluder?
I USE DOUBLE SIDED FOAM TAPE AS IT CREATES A NICE SOFT BASE FOR THE WING. THE ONLY WORD OF WARNING ABOUT IT IS THE STUFF STICKS QUITE WELL SO MAYBE YOU SHOULDN'T UNPEEL THE SKIN FROM THE TOP SURFACE SO THAT IT DOESN'T STICK TO THE WING.

My answers / suggestions in CAPS in the quote above.
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Re: South Cotswold Slopers!
« Reply #288 on: October 07, 2009, 21:40:32 PM »
I USE DOUBLE SIDED FOAM TAPE AS IT CREATES A NICE SOFT BASE FOR THE WING. THE ONLY WORD OF WARNING ABOUT IT IS THE STUFF STICKS QUITE WELL SO MAYBE YOU SHOULDN'T UNPEEL THE SKIN FROM THE TOP SURFACE SO THAT IT DOESN'T STICK TO THE WING.

Fair enough, I'll try that. The only worry I have is that the gap varies from touching in a couple of places to nearly 10mm a worst.. I guess something has settled in storage (for thirty years <gulp>) since the rest of it seems to be well built and from the 'Malvern Soaring Association' and 'Clent Soaring Association' stickers on the wings it looks like it's had a healthy outing or two.

Do I need to seal the gap completely or just give the wings a solid footing?

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Re: South Cotswold Slopers!
« Reply #289 on: October 07, 2009, 21:59:33 PM »
Do I need to seal the gap completely or just give the wings a solid footing?


I'm no expert but I can only assume the more contac the wing has with the fuz, the better! If it's all but impossible to join the two, maybe just build the tape up in the gaps so that contact is made all round?
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Re: South Cotswold Slopers!
« Reply #290 on: October 08, 2009, 18:36:21 PM »
Thursday afternoon at Selsley
Started OK with some steady lift, then the wind went too far east and it was hard work. Later the wind backed to north with pleaty of lift.
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Re: South Cotswold Slopers!
« Reply #291 on: October 08, 2009, 18:40:56 PM »
Damn it! If I thought it was going to be good up there I would have headed up after work. My mistake for not keeping an eye on things.
Away with work until Saturday afternoon so i'll be keen to get a fly in on Sunday weather permitting.
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Re: South Cotswold Slopers!
« Reply #292 on: October 08, 2009, 19:07:21 PM »
Damn it! If I thought it was going to be good up there I would have headed up after work. My mistake for not keeping an eye on things.
Away with work until Saturday afternoon so i'll be keen to get a fly in on Sunday weather permitting.
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I was really torn today too and decided against.

Hopefully 10am-ish Sunday the wind will be far enough round (XC says WNW at present) to fly at Selsley.  :xx
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Re: South Cotswold Slopers!
« Reply #293 on: October 08, 2009, 22:01:46 PM »
I'm planning on going to Duxford on Sunday, so might try to get out for a session on Saturday.

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Re: South Cotswold Slopers!
« Reply #294 on: October 09, 2009, 08:37:38 AM »
Hopefully 10am-ish Sunday the wind will be far enough round (XC says WNW at present) to fly at Selsley.  :xx

Just my luck. Sunday is the first day that i should be able to fly the Spit at Selsley, and last weekend I cracked it's canopy. Think the Diamond tape will be bought out and the old girl patched up IF the new canopy doesn't turn up in time.
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Off now for a couple of days. Enjoy your flying. See ya'll on Sunday hopefully.
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Re: South Cotswold Slopers!
« Reply #295 on: October 09, 2009, 12:16:59 PM »
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Re: South Cotswold Slopers!
« Reply #296 on: October 09, 2009, 18:28:28 PM »
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Re: South Cotswold Slopers!
« Reply #297 on: October 10, 2009, 08:59:50 AM »
Saturday... looks like the wind is W or a bit more North from there after lunch so I'll be up at Selsely after lunch to try and get my Relic flying again.

The wind is probably more Frocester but I don't fancy the landing with a crunchie I've never flown before...
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Re: South Cotswold Slopers!
« Reply #298 on: October 10, 2009, 12:33:52 PM »
Saturday... looks like the wind is W or a bit more North from there after lunch so I'll be up at Selsely after lunch to try and get my Relic flying again.

The wind is probably more Frocester but I don't fancy the landing with a crunchie I've never flown before...

The Wind was WSW at 12.00 Saturday, The wind may be clipping the trees at selsley
Frocester was good in the morning

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Re: South Cotswold Slopers!
« Reply #299 on: October 10, 2009, 12:59:10 PM »
The Wind was WSW at 12.00 Saturday, The wind may be clipping the trees at selsley
Frocester was good in the morning

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Thanks Phil,

Might have to be Frocester then.. I didn't really want my first ever rudder-elevator crunchie landing to be there though $%&
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Re: South Cotswold Slopers!
« Reply #300 on: October 10, 2009, 18:35:56 PM »
Did the relic fly? Were you able to bring her down safely?

Think I may not venutre out until the afternoon tomorrow. Hopefully by then the wind will have strengthend and moved around to WNW for a Selsley session.
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Anyone else playing?
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Re: South Cotswold Slopers!
« Reply #301 on: October 10, 2009, 18:43:46 PM »
I hope to be there, about time I got out again  :af

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Re: South Cotswold Slopers!
« Reply #302 on: October 10, 2009, 19:10:08 PM »
Did the relic fly? Were you able to bring her down safely?

Yes... and no.

Flew and landed her a few times after some very useful initial help from Phil - she flew very nicely, even in the initial quite light winds. I even managed a few loops, some nice low passes and some very slow sideslips for Phil to get some pictures (which will hopefully turn up somewhere soon...)

But. On one low pass along the slope the wing caught her under one wing and I fishtailed it all along the slope trying to avoid hitting anyone (or their planes) or get flipped right up and over and into the ground at speed. It doesn't fly like a wing does - much smaller control surfaces.

I managed to nurse it all the way along the row of pilots (sorry to anyone who had to duck) then ended up giving Glenn a bruised thigh and crushing a leading edge. 6" higher and it might have been Glenda from now on. 4' further on it would have landed on grass. Oh well. Lucky it was him really - I'm sure I must have already owed him one.

It looks quite repairable though, so that's my job for this week.

With the wings, Sam (my 9yo) got to have a fly or two with the virtual 'stand behind him' buddy box technique, and Jacob (my 14yo) flew around totally unaided, looping, rolling, all sorts. He's far too good, I'll have to limit his flying time.

Can't make it tomorrow though, so everyone can relax ;)
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Re: South Cotswold Slopers!
« Reply #303 on: October 11, 2009, 09:18:28 AM »
Three photos from Saturday at Selsley
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Re: South Cotswold Slopers!
« Reply #304 on: October 11, 2009, 12:00:08 PM »
Sunday morning at Frocester :)
Steady lift until rain stopped play at 11.30 AM  :'(
Doug's Blanik looked good and went well

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Re: South Cotswold Slopers!
« Reply #305 on: October 11, 2009, 12:45:56 PM »
according to XC Weather after the rain the wind should strengthen and veer to NW, maybe able to get some playtime at Selsley even if the grass is a bit damp. :-\
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Re: South Cotswold Slopers!
« Reply #306 on: October 11, 2009, 13:26:28 PM »
according to XC Weather after the rain the wind should strengthen and veer to NW, maybe able to get some playtime at Selsley even if the grass is a bit damp. :-\

Thats my intention. Thw wind is still looking a little light but hopefully it'll pick up in the next hour or so and swing more from the NW.
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Re: South Cotswold Slopers!
« Reply #307 on: October 11, 2009, 20:04:56 PM »
Some good lift this afternoon and plenty of good company! Attempted to fly the Spit, and i'm sure she would've flown towards the end of the sesh. Looking forwards to the next time we have similar conditions at Frocester.

Thanks for a real good afternoon gents.
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Re: South Cotswold Slopers!
« Reply #308 on: October 11, 2009, 21:59:26 PM »
Some good lift this afternoon and plenty of good company! Attempted to fly the Spit, and i'm sure she would've flown towards the end of the sesh. Looking forwards to the next time we have similar conditions at Frocester.

I don't think I'll ever get to see that thing fly...

Are you not tempted by the F16 in the classifieds Andy? It's about the only plane you haven't got isn't it?


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« Reply #309 on: October 11, 2009, 22:14:30 PM »
Are you not tempted by the F16 in the classifieds Andy? It's about the only plane you haven't got isn't it?

Very nice but the engine is worth more than the plane and that's the one bit I don't want / need! Otherwise . . . :''
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Re: South Cotswold Slopers!
« Reply #310 on: October 12, 2009, 08:40:08 AM »
The sun is out and a light breeze is forecast for Selsley.
I will be there about 2.00PM with a floater and my Starlight
Phil

5.00PM
Just got back a great afternoon it started out light on the west slope then a breeze sprang up from the north to give some good lift.
Photos my Starlight taken by guy and Guy's Centi Phase

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Re: South Cotswold Slopers!
« Reply #311 on: October 12, 2009, 18:52:10 PM »
Cracking shots! I got up there around 5:15 and there was no wind at all. Just used my Highlight as a DLG (without the DL bit) doing circuits. Still enjoyed it though.
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Re: South Cotswold Slopers!
« Reply #312 on: October 12, 2009, 19:49:32 PM »
I have loaded a few more photos to

http://www.ebley.plus.com/photo/?M=D

Tommorow looks good, a light wind at Selsley again

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Re: South Cotswold Slopers!
« Reply #313 on: October 12, 2009, 21:04:14 PM »
Thanks Phil for trimming out my plank on Saturday. I had more success on Sunday, really enjoyed throwing it about and being thrown in the turbulence. At times the wings flexing looked like a bird flapping as it climbed through the rough stuff.
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Re: South Cotswold Slopers!
« Reply #314 on: October 12, 2009, 21:36:58 PM »
Thanks Phil for trimming out my plank on Saturday. I had more success on Sunday, really enjoyed throwing it about and being thrown in the turbulence. At times the wings flexing looked like a bird flapping as it climbed through the rough stuff.


There is photo at http://www.ebley.plus.com/photo/tony-what-fauvel-is-it.jpg

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Re: South Cotswold Slopers!
« Reply #315 on: October 13, 2009, 20:47:26 PM »
Phil, once again thank you, for the picture this time. The Model is Called "Mini-Fauvel AV361" sold by A german company "EPP-FUN.de" It is a 1/6 scale model, they also do a 1/4 version that is 3.30M WS. When the wind and lift are enough it puts a huge grin on my face just to see it in the air, when I loop and roll it I LOL. ;D ;D
Hopefully you will see a lot more of it.  :xx
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Re: South Cotswold Slopers!
« Reply #316 on: October 17, 2009, 12:58:52 PM »
NE wind again, this pm I shall be trying my luck again at Leckhampton, the right hand slope.
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Re: South Cotswold Slopers!
« Reply #317 on: October 17, 2009, 13:58:59 PM »
NE wind again, this pm I shall be trying my luck again at Leckhampton, the right hand slope.

Glenn and I were up there last night on the left hand slope (I think - the one directly at the end of the footpath) flying wings till well after dark. I got some flashing RGB LED keyring lights form Hong Kong for a pittance. I forgot the sticky pads though so we just hooked two of them into the control horns and threw them off the hill - seemed to work fine - very visible, and didn't seem to affect the flight characteristics much at all.

Glenn also has some electroluminescent (EL) glow wire in his wing now - it looked too dim at first but once it got well dark it was excellent.

You really have to concentrate to keep your orientation, especially with so few lights. It's quite an experience - well worth a try (with something that bounces, obviously!)

There will be more lights in future... watch for UFO reports in the paper.
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Re: South Cotswold Slopers!
« Reply #318 on: October 17, 2009, 17:35:42 PM »
Sounds like a lot of fun! I like the idea of night flying too!
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Re: South Cotswold Slopers!
« Reply #319 on: October 17, 2009, 17:49:07 PM »
Just got back, the lift was smooth but intermittent, each time it died I was able to make it back to the ridge,just. Five minutes later the wind was back, flew my Hilla (the plank) EG and WR Fox. There were a couple of PG fliers there too, they gave up before I did, all in all a happy afternoon.

Night flying? I have enough trouble staying airborne when I can see my model and the ground. I might try it with my first cardboard build, no probably not even then, I am to stingy to risk all the hardware that goes into the models. lots of luck and fun to those who do try it. :af
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