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Re: East Sussex Soaring Association
« Reply #120 on: March 02, 2012, 14:03:37 PM »
If the BMFA F3F in S Wales is cancelled then I hope to see you all.
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Re: East Sussex Soaring Association
« Reply #121 on: March 02, 2012, 15:20:29 PM »
Nope change again  $%&

Whitbread hollow
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Hi Allen,

I am not making excuses, but will see how things go, as I gather the whole seafront is going to be closed off from 10.00 to 14.00 on Sunday, & presumably large parts of the surrounding area as the day goes on. I`m not sure what route this half marathon takes yet, but it might worth you taking it into account traffic wise.

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Re: East Sussex Soaring Association
« Reply #122 on: March 02, 2012, 15:39:36 PM »
My brother inlaw ran last year and they forgot to close some roads and they were running head on into traffic he said it was the worst marathon he had ever run,

Eastbourne could not organize a walk on a foot path, I should not worry you can probably drive right through I will head out early if the conditions are BH
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Re: East Sussex Soaring Association
« Reply #123 on: March 02, 2012, 19:59:20 PM »
Why not take part in both?  A bit of running, a bit of glider chucking, it could work...
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Re: East Sussex Soaring Association
« Reply #124 on: March 04, 2012, 09:29:29 AM »
well...i walk my dog around the hollow every weekend & I can confirm it is 'issing down at the bottom of the hill & at the top  ;) I guess it's a postponement then...what a shocker...ESSA comp gets postponed again... ::)
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Re: East Sussex Soaring Association
« Reply #125 on: March 04, 2012, 12:49:59 PM »
Yep, it sure is gloomy out there.

Oh well, we shall just have to wait until the 22nd of April to try again. OMG, thats 1-1/2 months away, why such a long gap? $%&

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Re: East Sussex Soaring Association
« Reply #126 on: March 05, 2012, 09:42:11 AM »
Yep, it sure is gloomy out there.

why such a long gap? $%&
Trying to run glider comps can be a pain in the ar5e lot of red tape lots of other crap but the hardest thing about ANY comp is DATES
just trying to get all the dates so they dont clash with national events etc is hard enough, then there are holidays etc etc and as you know ESSA comps usually consist of the same 10 people and without them there would be no comps
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Re: East Sussex Soaring Association
« Reply #127 on: March 05, 2012, 14:26:11 PM »
then there are holidays etc etc and as you know ESSA comps usually consist of the same 10 people and without them there would be no comps

I have not been consulted on this, & have a holiday booked on the 2nd September (ESSA F3F comp date), so if its okay with the other 9-10, are we able to hold it on the reserve date of the 30th September. ;D

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Re: East Sussex Soaring Association
« Reply #128 on: April 18, 2012, 11:53:04 AM »
Longman looks very odd with no fence
will make flying back to the car park easier though
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Re: East Sussex Soaring Association
« Reply #129 on: April 21, 2012, 21:21:00 PM »
what time is the aero comp kicking off then?
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Re: East Sussex Soaring Association
« Reply #130 on: April 21, 2012, 22:32:39 PM »
Well im running it and im picking up Phil from polegate at 9.10 I'll let you do the maths ;)
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Re: East Sussex Soaring Association
« Reply #131 on: April 21, 2012, 22:52:26 PM »
How did it go?  I wonder where you held it.  Hope it went well.
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Re: East Sussex Soaring Association
« Reply #132 on: April 22, 2012, 18:26:30 PM »
Lower west slope of the Longman (under the path)

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Re: East Sussex Soaring Association
« Reply #133 on: April 22, 2012, 18:47:03 PM »
and a good day it was too  :)

results Allen?

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Re: East Sussex Soaring Association
« Reply #134 on: April 22, 2012, 20:47:05 PM »
Tomorrow

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Re: East Sussex Soaring Association
« Reply #135 on: April 23, 2012, 08:28:05 AM »
Results
1. Pete Burgess
2. John Phillips
3. Cam Tate
4. Julian Perrott
5. Phil Taylor
6. Garry Harrison
7. Matt
8. Phil Tobbin
9. Dave Cox
10. Clive
11. Allen Elliott
12. Ian Mason
13. Tom Noble
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Re: East Sussex Soaring Association
« Reply #136 on: April 23, 2012, 19:13:43 PM »
Allen, thank you for running the comp, it was good to see you all and as things eventually turned out I had an enjoyable day  :)
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Re: East Sussex Soaring Association
« Reply #137 on: April 24, 2012, 16:32:24 PM »
Fix..................... (again)  ::)
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Re: East Sussex Soaring Association
« Reply #138 on: April 24, 2012, 17:44:44 PM »
Hi Allen,

It may be worth trying the higher West slope next time if we have that same wind direction, providing its not an F3F comp, but well done all the same. :af

I know its an extra couple of minutes walk, but it was pretty much square on the top at about 09.20-09.45, & after the comp we followed Phiza2 back up there. There was quite a hint of South in it at this stage, but the lift was far better, & easier for landing.

Someone mentioned about the risk of scaring a horsey on the track below if we flew up top. So I wondered if we could rota a couple of spotters, or make things easier still & obtain a couple of cheapo PMR radios?

Thanks again.

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Re: East Sussex Soaring Association
« Reply #139 on: April 24, 2012, 21:18:59 PM »
Hi Allen,

It may be worth trying the higher West slope next time if we have that same wind direction, providing its not an F3F comp, but well done all the same. :af

I know its an extra couple of minutes walk, but it was pretty much square on the top at about 09.20-09.45, & after the comp we followed Phiza2 back up there. There was quite a hint of South in it at this stage, but the lift was far better, & easier for landing.

Someone mentioned about the risk of scaring a horsey on the track below if we flew up top. So I wondered if we could rota a couple of spotters, or make things easier still & obtain a couple of cheapo PMR radios?

Thanks again.
It's not just horse it's people and bikes, you imagine some bike coming down the track at break neck speed at the same time as an F3F model pulls out of a loop a little late

There is a big difference between sports flying and a comp, you will take far bigger risks at a comp, I do not want to be the one saying "I am comp sec and I chose to have the comp over a public path.

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Re: East Sussex Soaring Association
« Reply #140 on: April 25, 2012, 18:34:24 PM »
I'm afraid I disagree with that Allen...I very much doubt people will take more of a risk to the point that the public are in danger on a comp for fear of embarrassment etc etc (unless they're a fool), let's face it, there's no prise money or even a big expensive trophy, the only thing that separates people from the amount of risk they take is .

You can't say there's a risk to the public "but only on comp days"...It's either a danger to the public to fly there or it's not.
If an incident was to happen to a member of ESSA involving the public, the club would be implicated anyway as I'm sure word would get out.
However...I do sympathise with your predicament as comp' sec'.
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Re: East Sussex Soaring Association
« Reply #141 on: April 26, 2012, 08:32:29 AM »
The competition sec, all ways a good job when it comes to things like this.
But as a rule we have to fly on the safty side where possable. And as competition CD on the day that preson is who could take all the blame if it came to a problem/accident, (he could be held responsible as CD) That is as to where we held the competition.
Saying that where we held the competition on Sunday was wrong or right is some thing we should have looked at before we started the comp but thats easy now.
Not the best wind direction for that hill to deside where to hold any thing competition wise. Me Alan got it about right on that call.
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Re: East Sussex Soaring Association
« Reply #142 on: April 26, 2012, 13:34:10 PM »
I don't wish to apportion blame or complain in any way, the club can run the comps in any way they see fit, we all have a choice to compete or not.
The reason the debate came up was an interesting situation between conditions relative to area & the relationship involving the public.
I guess it would be like judging someones flying ability solely on their performance in a comp, it's a snapshot, not a true representation.  :study:
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Re: East Sussex Soaring Association
« Reply #143 on: April 26, 2012, 15:39:14 PM »
I guess it would be like judging someones flying ability solely on their performance in a comp, it's a snapshot, not a true representation.  :study:
I hope not
I cant fly for Sh1te when there is a comp and if I flew like that all the time I would have found a new hobby by now  ;D
If we had stood at the top of the hill I expect we would have been flying in the excat same place just standing in a different place.

being comp sec is a bit like being an umpire, you can't always be right and you will never please everyone you just have to make a call at the time and stick to it  ;)
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Re: East Sussex Soaring Association
« Reply #144 on: April 26, 2012, 16:35:05 PM »
If we had stood at the top of the hill I expect we would have been flying in the excat same place just standing in a different place.

Hi Allen,

This is what I was asking to be considered in my previous post, as both before & after the comp I/we flew at the usual place up top next to the bushes.

The wind direction is often deceiving lower down where the wind curls round that hill before it enters the bowl, & it definately felt better up top wind strength/lift ratio wise.

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It may be worth trying the higher West slope next time if we have that same wind direction, providing its not an F3F comp, but well done all the same.

I know its an extra couple of minutes walk, but it was pretty much square on the top at about 09.20-09.45, & after the comp we followed Phiza2 back up there. There was quite a hint of South in it at this stage, but the lift was far better, & easier for landing.

Someone mentioned about the risk of scaring a horsey on the track below if we flew up top. So I wondered if we could rota a couple of spotters, or make things easier still & obtain a couple of cheapo PMR radios?

Thanks again.

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Re: East Sussex Soaring Association
« Reply #145 on: April 27, 2012, 20:18:05 PM »
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Re: East Sussex Soaring Association
« Reply #146 on: April 27, 2012, 20:35:51 PM »
Now that looks civilised!  Where is that seat?
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Re: East Sussex Soaring Association
« Reply #147 on: April 28, 2012, 19:44:27 PM »
To the west of the cost guard cottages Hastings county park car park .my local slope only 10 mins from home.

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Re: East Sussex Soaring Association
« Reply #148 on: April 30, 2012, 12:03:26 PM »
Hello all ESSA members.
just a reminder that this coming weekend is our Euro F3F league comp.
so our normal slopes my well be very busy, so you may need to think of other hills to go to.
also if you think you may be of some help please come along and give a hand.
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Re: East Sussex Soaring Association
« Reply #149 on: May 03, 2012, 09:30:29 AM »
The weather is looking like high winds from the north east this should mean there will be plenty of slopes at Bopeep away from the F3F should people want to sports fly but PLEASE report to the comp director (JP) before flying so we know your there and 2.4 etc etc

But parking may be another matter entirely  :''
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Re: East Sussex Soaring Association
« Reply #150 on: May 03, 2012, 14:30:33 PM »
Okeedoke Allen, good luck with it, & I hope the rain don`t get the in the way.

It always confuses me when I hear people refer to general/leisure flying as "sports" flying, as I kind of assume F3F/competition to be more sporty, but I get what your saying.

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Re: East Sussex Soaring Association
« Reply #151 on: May 05, 2012, 08:23:35 AM »
F3F practise at Bo-peep on Friday  you had to keep a eye on the sky

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Re: East Sussex Soaring Association
« Reply #152 on: May 05, 2012, 16:23:11 PM »
How did it go Allen?

Were any of the Saturday crowd flying? How about full sized & Hang gliders? What was the parking situation like?

Hope it all went well. :af

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Re: East Sussex Soaring Association
« Reply #153 on: May 05, 2012, 21:45:00 PM »
you'd think it was too strong for the pillows. Will be at BoPeep tomorrow quite early as it's looking like going more east as the day goes on.
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Re: East Sussex Soaring Association
« Reply #154 on: May 05, 2012, 22:34:08 PM »
the f3f euro tour will be at Butts lane tomorrow chaps
so may be worth giving it a miss up there.
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« Reply #155 on: May 06, 2012, 17:40:40 PM »
Congrats to the ESSA on excellent organization.  Here's some pics of today:
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« Reply #156 on: May 06, 2012, 17:44:08 PM »
And some more...
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Re: East Sussex Soaring Association
« Reply #157 on: May 06, 2012, 20:58:23 PM »
Thanks to JP for an AMAZING F3F
really enjoyed myself
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Re: East Sussex Soaring Association
« Reply #158 on: May 06, 2012, 21:52:14 PM »
Get a room you two!  :D

Seriously though, well done all, & not forgetting Jim & Daniel! :af

Anyone flying Beachy Head tomorrow? I probably won`t personally (nervous), but I might have a wander up at some stage for a look, as I think some of your F3F lot may be giving it a go.

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Re: East Sussex Soaring Association
« Reply #159 on: May 07, 2012, 09:05:00 AM »
Big thank you to all the ESSA men that helped with the F3F.
Alan Gary Peter Jim Daniel Tom and Jason.
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