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Re: Sloping in West Cornwall
« Reply #200 on: March 15, 2009, 21:38:19 PM »
I've used that halfords stuff for making ballast tubes and a few repairs in the past.

That chopped mat is a pig to work with and not hugely strong when compared to other options, a mate sorts me proper woven glass fibre cloth when he can... that stuff is a real joy to work with compared to the chopped mat, it goes on well, is much neater and a lot stronger.

You can get it off the net real easy... just dont get it from a modelling supplier, they'll double the price for the privilege.


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Re: Sloping in West Cornwall
« Reply #201 on: March 15, 2009, 21:39:28 PM »
maybe, i'd like to see a few other repair options first

i've probably got some wing bandage around, if not i do have carbon tape
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Re: Sloping in West Cornwall
« Reply #202 on: March 15, 2009, 21:52:28 PM »
I've used that halfords stuff for making ballast tubes and a few repairs in the past.

You can get it off the net real easy... just dont get it from a modelling supplier, they'll double the price for the privilege.

Think a surf shop might not be a bad option. I bought a kit a few years ago to repair one of my boards and the cloth was like silk. The board is till with me so maybe thats a good indication of it's strength.

Like Phil, i'm interested by any other options you may have be it repair methods or materials. It's starting to sound like I need to start a new thread . . . . "How should I repair my poorly girl?"
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Re: Sloping in West Cornwall
« Reply #203 on: March 15, 2009, 22:05:17 PM »
great place over at ST Day for GRP, and yes I have stock of balsa

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Re: Sloping in West Cornwall
« Reply #204 on: March 15, 2009, 22:11:48 PM »
cornwall glass supplies or something, next to united down tip, where i got my carbon ribbon from
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Re: Sloping in West Cornwall
« Reply #205 on: March 15, 2009, 22:13:35 PM »
May just have to make a visit to the St.Day tomorrow lunch time. Just need to check i've still got the locking wheel nuts on my car before I set off!!
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Re: Sloping in West Cornwall
« Reply #206 on: March 16, 2009, 08:15:52 AM »
If you can get into the nose through the fuz to glass I'd tape the nose in position first. Use a wide tape, about 50mm and add a strip of seloptape down the middle, sticky to sticky. _-_ ish. Hope that makes sense. The idea here is that by taping from the outside it's much easier to get the nose held in the right position with enough strength to handle the fuz without upsetting the joint. The idea of the backing strip is to provide a smooth mould fro the glass you're going to pu on the inside. Asuming you can make this tape type mould (looked like a pretty straight break from memory). you can now glass the inside. For the best finish I'd brush on some epoxy all over the joint to start then add the glass cloth as a bandage around the inside pushing it into the epoxy. You can then add extra layers and epoxy to suit.

Defo use woven, chop strand is a b14tch to work with unless it's a boat.
If you can remove that woden nose cone and refit after through the fuz then do.
Do go talk to someone in the know to check it's ok to put epoxy on polyester. I couldn't tell for sure as the smell was weak in that one, but worth a check.

I'd recommend some of those latex gloves that you're bound to have a supply of. ;D

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Re: Sloping in West Cornwall
« Reply #207 on: March 16, 2009, 12:28:31 PM »
Anybody got access to a decent airbrush (no i didn't leave the "H" off my spelling - it should read "airbrush" not "hairbrush")! I'm more than willing to pay "rent" for the use of it as i'm loathed to spend in excess of 150+ for a decent new one (dual action model including compressor cost).
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Re: Sloping in West Cornwall
« Reply #208 on: March 16, 2009, 13:09:22 PM »
got an airbrush too

the tape on the outside for a smooth finish is a good idea

yesterday would of been perfect for a fix the phantom session in my garden
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Re: Sloping in West Cornwall
« Reply #209 on: March 17, 2009, 07:56:59 AM »
I've got an airbrush too if you need one.

Not looking like much flying at the weekend, but great weather.

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Re: Sloping in West Cornwall
« Reply #210 on: March 17, 2009, 08:01:35 AM »
what ya mean? the weekends looking well good for flying... I'm hoping for some good after work sessions this week too.

mmmmmm the winds from the east commeth!

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Re: Sloping in West Cornwall
« Reply #211 on: March 17, 2009, 09:15:14 AM »
I've got an airbrush too if you need one.

Not looking like much flying at the weekend, but great weather.

sj

Might get to build or repair something! If only there were somewhere we could meet up to discuss / work on projects. I don't think McDonalds at Fraddon is that accommodating which is a real shame.
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Re: Sloping in West Cornwall
« Reply #212 on: March 17, 2009, 09:18:47 AM »
The Watering Hole :af :af
Now that I am older I thought it was nice I seemed to have more patience,turns out  I don't give  a sh*t

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Re: Sloping in West Cornwall
« Reply #213 on: March 17, 2009, 09:22:38 AM »
ahhh I seee... conflicting weather reports... I'm going with MO for the lizard...just cause it looks better.... its likely to all change by friday anyways.

Defo going for some evening flying... MiniD should go well off fletching and Big Stack should be working at some point.... if anyones over this way you're welcome to join in the fun.... thats unlikely I know.
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Re: Sloping in West Cornwall
« Reply #214 on: March 17, 2009, 09:30:47 AM »
Might get to build or repair something! If only there were somewhere we could meet up to discuss / work on projects. I don't think McDonalds at Fraddon is that accommodating which is a real shame.
 ;)

I know a very accommodating "coffee shop" very close to Burgerworld at Fraddon which is glider friendly  :af

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Re: Sloping in West Cornwall
« Reply #215 on: March 17, 2009, 13:51:12 PM »
 :study:  :af

just taking a look at the hit the stick stats.. it's been watched 161 times via the WCS site! :o
so we get a bit of traffic then
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Re: Sloping in West Cornwall
« Reply #216 on: March 17, 2009, 14:37:52 PM »
:study:  :af

just taking a look at the hit the stick stats.. it's been watched 161 times via the WCS site! :o
so we get a bit of traffic then

True. Thing is, I think we all like it so much, 150 of those hits are from the "normal" WCS boys!  $%&
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Re: Sloping in West Cornwall
« Reply #217 on: March 17, 2009, 18:47:51 PM »
Anybody interested in meeting at a school with full access to workshops etc. ;)

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Re: Sloping in West Cornwall
« Reply #218 on: March 17, 2009, 18:51:02 PM »
ooooh, is it back on?
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Re: Sloping in West Cornwall
« Reply #219 on: March 17, 2009, 18:56:57 PM »
I can try possibly to make arrangements for some time. Evenings are out at the moment, however I might be able to open when there is a bad weekend, however there with be a small cost involved.

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Re: Sloping in West Cornwall
« Reply #220 on: March 17, 2009, 19:01:33 PM »
I'd be up for it (whilst i'm still down here)!
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Re: Sloping in West Cornwall
« Reply #221 on: March 17, 2009, 20:16:59 PM »
finally got a new mb should be ready for the week end tryed to get some pictures up but don't no how lets hope this one don't bite

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Re: Sloping in West Cornwall
« Reply #222 on: March 17, 2009, 20:18:48 PM »
don't rush it.
and use something more robust for holding the aileron servos in. don't know what you used before, but it didn't put up a fight
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Re: Sloping in West Cornwall
« Reply #223 on: March 17, 2009, 20:26:44 PM »
Wise words from phil...

make this one a keeper ;)

Theres some cracking mouldy build threads around, best way to fix wing servos etc.

Keep an eye on the amount of throw you have on the tail too, start in the safe zone then work up. Or just use what phil and dan have been using with the same cofg.

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Re: Sloping in West Cornwall
« Reply #224 on: March 17, 2009, 20:32:22 PM »
Really pleased you've got hold of it at last. Can't wait to see it on the slopes!  ::cc

Echo all the above!

Don't think it'll be strong enough winds this weekend to fly it (sub 10mph for Sat and Sun), so take your time my man! I know how it feels having to wait to fly a new model. I'm getting a new model either tomorrow or Thursday too  ::cc but she won't see the slopes until I'm comfortable there's a good enough wind to fly her in, and that she's in a fit state to fly.
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Re: Sloping in West Cornwall
« Reply #225 on: March 17, 2009, 20:41:38 PM »
be mindful of downwind turns and holding in loads of elevator, hey andy
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Re: Sloping in West Cornwall
« Reply #226 on: March 17, 2009, 20:45:38 PM »
be mindful of downwind turns and holding in loads of elevator, hey andy

I'll let you off this once because it's your birthday. Nor will i mention your recent track record with other peoples models.  :-X
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Re: Sloping in West Cornwall
« Reply #227 on: March 17, 2009, 20:51:52 PM »
I think I going to have to put some night lights on to test fly the kulbutin by the looks of the weather. I knew the winds would drop off.

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Re: Sloping in West Cornwall
« Reply #228 on: March 17, 2009, 20:55:18 PM »
I think I going to have to put some night lights on to test fly the kulbutin by the looks of the weather. I knew the winds would drop off.

Clocks go forward at the end of the month so those 2hr after work sessions aren't too far away.  ::cc
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Re: Sloping in West Cornwall
« Reply #229 on: March 17, 2009, 21:23:23 PM »
Ryan, here's another model you may be interested in . . . .

B2

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Re: Sloping in West Cornwall
« Reply #230 on: March 17, 2009, 21:24:10 PM »
that'll need some mixing
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Re: Sloping in West Cornwall
« Reply #231 on: March 17, 2009, 21:27:46 PM »
Now thats a real stealth bomber! Reckon you could knock something up like this Ryan?
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Re: Sloping in West Cornwall
« Reply #232 on: March 17, 2009, 21:29:51 PM »
will defiantly spend no rushed time building it
fitting the last servos i wrapped electrical tape tight round the servo then scratched both surfaces then super glued then around some  edges put some rubberised glue in case the super glue snapped i would have thought that would have been adequate i don't think the build quality was the issue
i think less rates will be needed

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Re: Sloping in West Cornwall
« Reply #233 on: March 17, 2009, 21:32:23 PM »
no, just saying they came out too easy, the rubber glue didn't grip the wing skin at all, the super glue only left a tiny amount of tape left stuck.
have a hunt around for epoxy and microballon methods.
i think in the kinda wind speeds we had the other day, or just a hard landing they could knock loose.
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Re: Sloping in West Cornwall
« Reply #234 on: March 17, 2009, 21:40:51 PM »
no, just saying they came out too easy, the rubber glue didn't grip the wing skin at all, the super glue only left a tiny amount of tape left stuck.
have a hunt around for epoxy and microballon methods.
i think in the kinda wind speeds we had the other day, or just a hard landing they could knock loose.
fair enough
andy i think il stick to my stealth bombers allot easier to build

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Re: Sloping in West Cornwall
« Reply #235 on: March 17, 2009, 22:01:47 PM »
defo epoxy and micro balloons for fittings the wing servos... servos rapped in tape first of cause  :af

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Re: Sloping in West Cornwall
« Reply #236 on: March 17, 2009, 22:16:41 PM »
heat shrink is also meant to work well.
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Re: Sloping in West Cornwall
« Reply #237 on: March 17, 2009, 22:48:34 PM »
toys on ebay...
Alula, anyone recgonise that alula in the dune grass ::)
[ebay]250391497255[/ebay]

one for andy, i believe this is the YT international one???
[ebay]260379056122[/ebay]   

umm, links don't work, but just look for those numbers
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Re: Sloping in West Cornwall
« Reply #238 on: March 18, 2009, 08:30:59 AM »
Already had my eye on it Phil (currently watching 12 items on ebay - no I won't be buying them all!!)

That Alula is probably one of the only things that may fly this weekend! Very sunny, but absolutely no wind.
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Re: Sloping in West Cornwall
« Reply #239 on: March 18, 2009, 11:46:55 AM »
The original Bee's a great wing, buy one and you wont be dissapointed! Its much more agile than the bevo. Just not as fast.

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