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Title: South East Flyers Part 1
Post by: DelUK on March 02, 2009, 22:37:05 PM
Sorry Darren for the hijack, but we need to get this show back on the road  :uk:

What we all been up to then ?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Crazy Frog on March 02, 2009, 23:35:20 PM
No prob Del, what a pain trying to get registered again, does it look like weve lost all our previous threads  :banghead:
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on March 02, 2009, 23:37:57 PM
Not sure yet but it doesn't look too hopeful  :'(

We will just have to rebuild, bigger and better ? :xx
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on March 02, 2009, 23:39:05 PM
27 flippin posts !

I'd nearly reached my 1000 as well....
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on March 03, 2009, 08:43:32 AM
horray, we're back!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on March 03, 2009, 09:07:34 AM
 ::cc ::cc ::cc ::cc :''
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on March 03, 2009, 09:18:27 AM

What we all been up to then ?

had a quick sesh up at Thurnham yesterday, started off very gusty (paraglider ended up on the fence :o) but eased off to give super smooth floaty conditions, had a lovely cruise around with my 90" wing
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on March 03, 2009, 09:24:29 AM
3 days on the trot ! Oh to be that free..... I'm going to move next to a slope oneday ;)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on March 03, 2009, 09:42:34 AM
4 days actually!! (sorry Deryck)

Friday afternoon, most of Sat, Sun am (quicky at Wye) and yesterday afternoon. Looks flyable today, but I can't really justify it ::)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on March 03, 2009, 18:20:46 PM
Is it miniphase no more?  I want your job Paul (I think I do... I might be in for a shock)

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on March 03, 2009, 20:45:56 PM
Is it miniphase no more?  I want your job Paul (I think I do... I might be in for a shock)

Simon

miniphase no more! seeing as how I've ended up meeting a few guys from the forum in the flesh, it seemed simpler to stick with my real name

My job? self employed architect (part 2) plenty of work on despite the credit crunch, however will-power collapsed and I snuck out again this afternoon, but I have just done a few hours work this evening to make up for it! I tend to work a lot of weekends and evenings through the winter, or when the wind's not good this offsets the odd afternoon I have off here and there for flying in the week. It's the nearest I've managed to get to opting out of the rat race!

By the way Simon, have you ever flown at Farthing Common? I gave it a quick go the other week in a north westerly, seemed to work ok
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on March 03, 2009, 21:28:18 PM
5 days on the trot !

Rest assured Paul, you are well out of the rat race....
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on March 03, 2009, 21:39:53 PM
Saturday longman
anyone up??
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on March 03, 2009, 21:49:31 PM
Rest assured Paul, you are well out of the rat race....

an overiding memory of my childhood was being envious of my grandparents because they were retired! perhaps that's when the seed was sewn?

gave the Brisk a bit of a go again today, I have to say I'm impressed, but it did keep disappearing against that grey sky  :o

Allen, we'd love to join you, but I think we'll be local on Saturday
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on March 03, 2009, 21:53:29 PM
I'm going to move next to a slope oneday ;)

funny you should say that, Imperial College own a dilapidated bungalow at the bottom of Wye Downs. I've approached them.....but they don't want to sell
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on March 03, 2009, 22:15:00 PM
let's hope it stays this way :

http://www.metcheck.com/V40/UK/FREE/dayforecast.asp?zipcode=maidstone&day=4
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on March 03, 2009, 22:48:27 PM

By the way Simon, have you ever flown at Farthing Common? I gave it a quick go the other week in a north westerly, seemed to work ok

Yes a few times - I used to go there quite a bit in the 80s/early 90s - it is a good 'trimming' slope, as it has a good landing area, but not too much lift.  You can get good thermals running through though.  (I did try to leave some comments on the goodwind blog after your visit, but it would not get past the security bit - never gave me a code to put in, despite numerous tries).  I think the EKSA boys claimed it as a club site, but it is now access area, so I guess its fair game.  I have never seen anyone else flying there either when I've been flying there or just driving past.

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on March 04, 2009, 07:27:16 AM
good landing area, but not too much lift.  You can get good thermals running through though. 

(I did try to leave some comments on the goodwind blog after your visit, but it would not get past the security bit - never gave me a code to put in, despite numerous tries).


It did seem to be quite 'bubbly' when I was there, but you could tell the slope lift wasn't that strong

Deryck said he had the same problem with the blog, I'll take a look.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on March 04, 2009, 07:44:20 AM
let's hope it stays this way :

[url]http://www.metcheck.com/V40/UK/FREE/dayforecast.asp?zipcode=maidstone&day=4[/url]


sun and wind! superb
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on March 04, 2009, 14:36:32 PM

gave the Brisk a bit of a go again today, I have to say I'm impressed, but it did keep disappearing against that grey sky  :o


Get some colour on it !

What impressed you about the Brisk ? Speed, lift, or just the whole 'feel'....
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on March 04, 2009, 18:23:22 PM
mainly how 'solid' it feels, though I think the cg has to go back
some so that could all go to pot!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on March 04, 2009, 19:04:59 PM
yes, we know you like a heavier rear end ;) ....come to think of it, so do I !
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on March 05, 2009, 07:39:43 AM
yes, we know you like a heavier rear end ;) ....come to think of it, so do I !

now that's going to start some nasty rumours!

still looking rather splendid for saturday  :xx
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on March 05, 2009, 12:34:06 PM
Paul, I thought you would be up at Beltinge this afternoon.  I'm at work as usual when the wind is on at beltinge  >:(
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on March 05, 2009, 13:00:09 PM
Paul, I thought you would be up at Beltinge this afternoon.  I'm at work as usual when the wind is on at beltinge  >:(

I've got to pop out that way in a bit for work as luck would have it, no doubt there'll be a little 'something'
in the car ready to take advantage of the wind!

I'll do a couple of speed runs in your honour Simon!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on March 05, 2009, 17:58:09 PM
no wind at the coast this afternoon, chewed the cud with the paragliders and watched the gulls flap
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on March 05, 2009, 21:55:31 PM
Hairyflyer, I think this is your plane being launched at Ivinghoe so I thought I'd put the pic on here.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Hairyflier on March 06, 2009, 09:08:55 AM
Hairyflyer, I think this is your plane being launched at Ivinghoe so I thought I'd put the pic on here.

Certainly is, nice shot. Loved Brecon the Collie too.  :af
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: giskard on March 06, 2009, 12:48:52 PM
Hi... is this the place to contact the slopehunter guys?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on March 06, 2009, 13:07:31 PM
yeah he's hiding in here somewhere

GARY!!! ( yells at the top of my voice)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: NickK on March 06, 2009, 19:51:45 PM
Lol

anyway see you up at longman tomorrow afternoon  ::cc

anyone else coming  :-\
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on March 06, 2009, 22:02:11 PM
Dont look like it know just you and me nick, there might be a few other locals  :xx
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on March 06, 2009, 22:32:04 PM
Hi... is this the place to contact the slopehunter guys?
Yeah, this is the thread where some of the guys who slope soar in the southeast arrange flying sessions.  I'm out of commission this weekend but a couple of guys are meeting up on Saturday at the Long Man site.

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on March 06, 2009, 23:45:25 PM
Have fun down south lads, some of us will be staying local in Kent.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on March 07, 2009, 18:25:15 PM
I was babysitting today, but after lunch I saw the wind was good for Colley Hill, which is only 20 minutes drive for me, so I thought "To heck with it, I'm flying, I'll just have to take the babies with me." 

The lift was pretty epic, the most lift I've ever experienced anywhere in 8mph wind - that's a funny hill, that Colley Hill, you never know what to expect - sometimes it's great, sometimes terrible, there's no sense to it.  A club from Dartford was there.  Apparently they'd been to Castle Hill in the morning, found no lift, and so moved to Colley Hill where they had a great time.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on March 07, 2009, 20:00:25 PM
  A club from Dartford was there.  Apparently they'd been to Castle Hill in the morning, found no lift,

yup, as soon as the lift got up the sky was full, and I mean FULL of paragliders
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on March 07, 2009, 21:27:26 PM
Was a great day at longman was 30mph with gusts of 38mph
first time i have had full ballast and a good blow for the Aldij
landing's a pig at longman the best of time but with a fast plane it really tricky

Great day Cheers Nick
and that Johns plane was massive !
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on March 07, 2009, 21:34:07 PM

and that Johns plane was massive !

enquiring minds want to know more......
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on March 07, 2009, 21:55:56 PM
I think its name was Salto or something similar
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on March 07, 2009, 22:03:45 PM
a Salto indeed (German for 'loop' I believe)

looks like he even had the scale dive brakes.......superb!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on March 07, 2009, 22:11:29 PM
Crikey, 30 gusting to 38, that's almost 4 times what I had in Surrey.  

I reckon 30mph is fantastic fun as long as I have a plane I'm not too worried about.  

I see tomorrow might be another 30mph day with West winds.  I have the parents-in-law over for lunch so I can't make it, but I bet the west slope at Long Man will be good, or even that rumoured west slope off the road that goes from the A27 down into Newhaven.

To anyone who makes it out, may you fly fast and land slow.




Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Russell on March 07, 2009, 22:18:09 PM
I would like to try & make it to Mill Hill but I have to go in to work around lunchtime  :'(
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on March 07, 2009, 22:26:59 PM
Oh yeah, I forgot Mill Hill can work perfectly well in west winds despite being a SW slope.  I like really like that slope, it always works so well.  Though the winds are usually higher there than the forecast, which is not so good if the forecast is high.  I've flown there in 35mph and it's excellent except for the landing...


Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: NickK on March 08, 2009, 08:24:34 AM
Long man was excellent yesterday - plenty of lift and i didn't break anything  ::cc

The Salto was very impressive although i wouldn't have fancied the long man walk carrying something like that in that much wind  :o

Aldij (spelling  :-\) was very impressive fully ballasted in that much wind  :af
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on March 08, 2009, 22:02:11 PM
a Salto indeed (German for 'loop' I believe)

looks like he even had the scale dive brakes.......superb!
that's what there called?
I must say when he showed the brakes i was shocked to see they hinge at the middle not the front hence being up and down at the same time
(hard to describe in words)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on March 08, 2009, 22:12:33 PM
I like the sound of those brakes, they sound very effective.  A bonus feature is that if you could set them to be able to tilt slightly in flight in opposite directions they might act as extra ailerons! 
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on March 08, 2009, 22:33:20 PM
Here's a real dodgy pic but you get the idea

He said she just stopped but was very likely to tip stall
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on March 09, 2009, 07:34:01 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1PE0AWljn0

this shows the brakes in full effect, it's interesting to note that the Salto also deploys the drouge chute in the dive so the guy who's had the frontal labotomy can catch up with him.....

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: David M on March 10, 2009, 03:30:43 AM
I enjoyed really smooth soaring with my little Multiplex Fox on Saturday between Castle Hill and Hollingbourne.. :)

We went for a 'stroll' along the North Downs and I went prepared with the little fox and Tx in tow. About 2 miles from Castle Hill we settled down to our sarnies and tea on a little beaut of a slope above Broad Street farm. The Fox climbed like the clappers and a 30 minute smooth flight was enjoyed before the wind started gusting to probably near 20mph. The model handled it ok but Julia didn't.. ;D

Back at Castle Hill, the paraglider's had all but vanished and some pretty nifty piloting was seen...who had that electric model that climbed vertical to a dot in seconds... :o...my little fox was well up there some of the time (when I could get it away from the gusty turbulance at the edge of the slope) and this missile was climbing past me out of sight..!

Sad day Paul.. :'(...I heard it but didn't see it mate. Hope things weren't as bad as you first thought...

Cheers......
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on March 10, 2009, 07:48:09 AM
Hi David

Terminal I'm afraid, looks like there could be a replacement in the offing though.

I've long fancied having a go at a cross country from Thurnham to Hollingbourne, looks like Deryck could be up for it too so this year could be it! I walked the route last summer and with a bit of forward planning I think
it's possible.

I think it was the other Paul ripping around with his hotliner.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: David M on March 10, 2009, 23:36:06 PM
Umm...sorry to hear that Paul, never mind mate, look forward to flying the replacement... :af

We went about 3/4 of the way to Hollingbourne and turned back this time, next time we're off to Hollingbourne to do the same (when the winds right of course.. :))

The route looks really good for cross country to me. You'll have to be field side of the fence a lot of the time though or you'll be surrounded in trees if you stick to the path. They went right over our heads and even without leaves on the trees, a lot of the time we couldn't see the slope. The early fields nearest Thurnham are full of lambs already so you may need to leave it a little while to save annoying a farmer or 2..

Here's the path on Streetmap, plenty of SW contours to play with along the way... :) That campsite looks inviting for a night or two halfway along the route... :study:

Streetmap - Homepage (http://www.streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?x=580598&y=157884&z=120&sv=Thurnham&st=3&tl=Map+of+Thurnham,+Kent)+[Town]&searchp=ids.srf&mapp=map.srf

I saw Simon and Jon launching their flat field soarers the other Sunday using a winch, very impressive and a bit daunting for someone not used to seeing that. There must be some serious wing joiner in them.. :o Similar to what must be in Paul's hotliner I should imagine..
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on March 11, 2009, 09:04:33 AM
You'll have to be field side of the fence a lot of the time though or you'll be surrounded in trees


Yes, I think the trickiest bit is between Thurham and Coldblow you'd have to fly round the back to the eastern most bowl at Thurnham, then walk to the bottom of the hill, fly from the bottom til you're past Coldblow then pickup the path on the ridge again.
Title: Watership Down slope site tested
Post by: GP on March 11, 2009, 19:48:25 PM
I haven't been able to fly lately due to work commitments but today after a meeting in Wiltshire I took the opportunity to check out Watership Down.

It's a very pleasant area with two quite good slopes (NW and NE) and okay landing zones.  I'd say the slopes are about as good as Castle Hill and the landing not as good as Castle Hill.  There are also cross country soaring opportunities.  The area consists of private land with public access managed by the council (the land is mostly owned by Andrew Lloyd Webber apparently).  Some cross country slopes are limited by 'Keep Out' signs.  Another limiting factor is that race horses are sometimes exercised there and soaring isn't really feasible when that occurs, mainly because the best landing spots are also the best horse running spots.

All in all a very pleasant site, if you lived within 10 or 20 miles you'd really enjoy it, especially considering there are so few other sites around there.  But it's not quite the sort of site you'd travel a long way for.


Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on March 11, 2009, 19:57:06 PM
Paul, you lost a plane?  The toplight?  What caused it?

I always like to hear what went wrong, not in a grisly way, but just to learn what to avoid, what bits can fail on planes etc.

When I think back to how I have damaged planes, here's my top 5 -

1. Tip stalls too close to the ground (which is my idiocy - too slow too low)
2.  Aerobatics too low (ie idiocy again)
3.  Receiver wire broken internally so it still looked fine externally (which is idiocy again, coz it means I didn't range check)
4.  Mid air (nobody's fault, or perhaps it's my idiocy again for flying in crowded skies)
5.  Landing too fast in a cack handed attempt to prevent 1.

So it's mostly brain failure, not component failure!


Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on March 11, 2009, 21:25:10 PM
It was the 2.7m Brisk bitsa that bit the dust Gary, had a mid-air with a Wildthing at the bottom of a fast pass. I took his fin off and came out inverted, I rolled back upright and the model dove straight in from about 100ft (no elevator response at all) so I must have dislodged the v tail.

One wing was split open along the it's length, the other seriously creased, I had to split the nose cone in two to get it off and disconnect the battery. Four servo gears stripped and the carbon wing joiner cracked in half.

Scroll down to the bottom of this post for some fotos-
Goodwind Slope Soaring: like a bus (http://goodwindsoaring.blogspot.com/2009/03/like-bus.html)

Bit cheesed off because I'd put a lot of work into it, but at least pilot error wasn't involved.

I should be picking up a second hand 3.1m Cobra as a replacement on Friday.


Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on March 12, 2009, 11:06:19 AM
That two mid-airs in, what a month?
What are the Odds ??
 :-\
Not flying with you again  :nananana:
Just kidding its always been a pleasure

Just bad luck i guess ::)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on March 12, 2009, 12:09:55 PM
they don't come along very often! the last time I wrote off a model in a mid-air was the early nineties, so that's pretty good going I think

we'll have to have another session down your way sometime Allen
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on March 12, 2009, 12:50:51 PM
Yeah would be great, need all the practice i can get at the mo
My club has its F3F on the 22nd
But i think this year i will just stick to clean and steady and hope for a reasonable time
there's no point in trying to win when I'm flying against the like of john (the welsh open winner of last year) and other well seasoned F3F pilots not to mention some nice airframes
I'm just gonna think of it as a change to watch, learn, have a go and enjoy, I'll be leaving any competitive streak i may have at home that day
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on March 12, 2009, 22:00:33 PM
Sorry to hear the Bitsa bit the dust, Paul, especially after you took so much care building the custom wing joiner etc ... but nice to hear you're consoling yourself with an even better plane.  Look forward to seeing the Calypso Cobra.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on March 12, 2009, 22:20:13 PM
He always had a bad feeling about  that glider. Unfortunately it turned out to be right !
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on March 13, 2009, 12:37:42 PM
He always had a bad feeling about  that glider. Unfortunately it turned out to be right !

I dunno what it was, I'm not superstitious or religious....it flew beautifully....but it just gave off an aura of bad juju. I feel a kind of relief that it's written off and not hurt anyone in the process.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on March 13, 2009, 13:00:16 PM
I never get that feeling ... until about one second before they impact ...
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on March 13, 2009, 13:57:00 PM
I never get that feeling ... until about one second before they impact ...


Me too  :'(
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on March 13, 2009, 19:51:36 PM
Paul, I see a Cobra came 17th in the recent Hole of Horcum race league (ROBERT CARSON Calypso Cobra 5489.37), so it's still a competitive model despite all the new Needles and Vikoses and what have you, I bet you're going to really enjoy that one.

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on March 13, 2009, 21:04:00 PM
It's got a very interesting 'old school' feel to it, mines the full carbon version so it should take a bit of stick. I'm not too bothered about it being competative, but I suppose it's good to know it can hold its own still.

It's got the same section as the Brisk, so I'm hoping it'll have a similar feel to it.

I'm waiting for replacement servo gears before I can do the install so I may do a bit of tarting in the mean time. But yes, I'm looking forward to giving it a go...if nothing else it's a lovely looking model and I'm not keen on flying something that's dog ugly!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on March 13, 2009, 21:06:25 PM
By the way Simon on your Cobras, have you done any work to the wipers or skin to increase up aileron deflection?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on March 13, 2009, 21:59:50 PM
By the way Simon on your Cobras, have you done any work to the wipers or skin to increase up aileron deflection?

bottom hinged ? why do they do ailerons like that, can someone explain....
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: David M on March 13, 2009, 22:01:22 PM
I'm waiting for replacement servo gears before I can do the install so I may do a bit of tarting in the mean time.

No wonder you're up the slope every SW'ly and can afford these model beauts.... :D

I enjoyed it up there again today with the little fox, bloody cold though compared to Wednesday I thought..!

I counted 9 paragliders up when I drove along the bottom road earlier...doesn't ANYBODY work anymore..???

A little flapperon undercamber on the fox made it go up like a lift today, a little flap-down elevator mixing to stop the ballooning and it's a goer. Got the idea from talking to you on Wednesday Paul over your light wind model's undercamber... :af

Cheers all.......
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on March 13, 2009, 22:04:34 PM
...doesn't ANYBODY work anymore..???

I know what you mean, I find it hard to get up there of a weekend let alone mid week  :banghead:
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on March 13, 2009, 22:21:43 PM
Paul, I think I did on one but not all 5 of the Cobras i have owned!  I would try it as is for starters, and think about modifying if you find it too slow in roll.  With full span mixing it shouldn't be too bad.  What servos are you using?  Did it come with ballast & spacers?  Is it a screw on or slip on nose?

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on March 14, 2009, 08:51:45 AM
slip on nose Simon, and the guy gave me a length of tube to make up my own ballast

I'll see what the roll rate is like before I do any 'sanding' then

servos will be HS85mg

the way the wing attaches is novel!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on March 14, 2009, 09:49:45 AM
You can make ballast spacers from the white plastic conduit you get in B&Q (the larger size).  Good luck and will be interested to hear how you get on.  With the pylon wing it is a really easy model to hold and launch.

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on March 15, 2009, 12:04:05 PM
You can make ballast spacers from the white plastic conduit you get in B&Q (the larger size).  Good luck and will be interested to hear how you get on.  With the pylon wing it is a really easy model to hold and launch.

Simon

thanks Simon, I'm hoping to have it ready for next weekend pending replacement servo gears.......
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: David M on March 17, 2009, 01:21:49 AM
Julia and I walked the stretch of the NDW from Hollingbourne to Broadstreet farm on Saturday and I found a couple of good little west facing slopes to fly the Fox from, it was quite blustery and a little turbulent but all went well.

On Sunday we ventured down to see what all the fuss is about on the South downs and in the NW'ly, we headed for Devil's Dyke, we could see paraglider's by the bucket load off to our right as we went along the A23 and our worst fears came true when we got up there only to find 33 paragliders in the air and no parking at all at the top. Absolute nightmare.

We about turned and headed off to Jack and Jill hill but there were no fliers there only three modellers dabbling in aerial photograghy with a heli, electric glider and a weird 4 b/l motor camera platform. They got some cracking pictures of the windmills and as the wind has veared more westerly about 2ish, they steared me to Mill Hill.

That was more like it... :uk:...plenty of models screaming about with what looked like bucket loads of lift. The occasional piston engined full size would come overhead and float down to Shoreham airport's strip below, following the meandering river. About the best view from a slope site I've ever seen there at Mill Hill.

The Fox got it's next airing and belted about like a good 'un, mainly over the left side of the slope due to the sun. I found the lift a little turbulent up to about 30 yards out then it was very smooth and powerful. Apparently, a local said there is a step futher down the slope and that's what I felt.

The local's standard of flying was to be commended and they had obviously been at this game for a long time. It was good to see their confidence in the lift as a lot of their full aerobatic flying went on below eye level.

80 miles home from there for me though which would sadly make it a special occasion site if I flew it again, the locals were very friendly and welcoming though and made us feel at home straight away. A very busy site on a Sunday with a constant 6 or more models up all the time, excluding the combatters who flew away from us further down the ridge to our left....

Thanks go to Slopehunter's printed off pdf slope guide for effortlessly getting us to the differnet sites... :af
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on March 17, 2009, 07:36:28 AM
33 paragliders in the air and no parking at all at the top. Absolute nightmare.


yeah, I'm not a big fan of the Dyke too busy by half!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on March 17, 2009, 07:42:00 AM
Good to hear you found the slope guide useful (Home - Slopehunter guide to slope soaring sites (http://www.slopehunter.co.uk))  

I've flown at Mill Hill quite a bit and I really like it.  Mill Hill and those other great south downs slopes not too far from the M23 (Devils, Ditchling, Firle, Bopeep) are about 50 miles for me, which is just a bit too much for frequent use.  Pity they're not on the north downs.

The Dyke can be excellent at quiet times but not at peak times, it gets ridiculous.  I've had 2 midairs there and I don't think I've ever had a midair anywhere else.

I reckon we should do a "Summer Solstice South Downs Soaring Session", what so you reckon?  Fly whatever slope on the south downs is best on the first sunday after June 21 or whenever the summer solstice is.




Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on March 17, 2009, 08:23:16 AM
That sounds like a damn fine idea, I'm up for that.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on March 17, 2009, 08:43:02 AM
 Fly whatever slope on the south downs is best on the first sunday after June 21 or whenever the summer solstice is.



The 21st is a sunday and the summer solstice   ::)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Mark 250 on March 17, 2009, 08:58:49 AM
Allen.
Don't forget that weekend is the ESSA round for the BMFA 60" and F3F league.

Mark J
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on March 17, 2009, 09:39:48 AM
Allen.
Don't forget that weekend is the ESSA round for the BMFA 60" and F3F league.

Mark J

we could work round that, there's enough hills around to find an alternate location if there's a clash

shall we do it in style with BBQ and everything then?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on March 17, 2009, 11:04:34 AM
I think we should all meet at the BMFA 60"
As:
1 I want to race in it
2 we can mark our frequencies (35MHz)
3 we get a good show
4 they will be on the best slope for wind direction
 $%&
 :af
 :D
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on March 17, 2009, 11:12:46 AM
Ivinghoe club normally do a summer solstice flying session every year.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on March 17, 2009, 11:26:35 AM
I think we should all meet at the BMFA 60"


will we be able to fly at the same time Allen? how busy does it get? I have recently developed an aversion to flying on busy hills  ::)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on March 17, 2009, 11:39:59 AM
will we be able to fly at the same time Allen? how busy does it get? I have recently developed an aversion to flying on busy hills  ::)
Well last year me and one other got there to find it had been cancelled due to rain

I managed to get half way up the hill before the rain pushed me back to the car  :'(

So was not busy at all  ;D

I think it's well to early to be making any arrangements
But i have to show for the 60" as first, i want to enter the gulp and second, ESSA should make the effort  ::)
If i can fly with you guy I will, and that goes for any place any time  :P

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on March 17, 2009, 14:01:25 PM
I should go to one of those ESSA events seeing as I joined ESSA recently.

They have 60" league on Sat 20th June and F3F on Sun 21st June.  On 3 May they have an ESSA Cross-Country event which might be worth going along to.  I don't think they get big numbers to these things so I think they don't mind anyone coming along.  They're hosting the F3F Nationals this year, on 8-9 June, I'll definitely go to spectate.   

Ivinghoe's Summer Solstice event is, curiously, on Weds 17 June.

 
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on March 17, 2009, 15:12:23 PM
I think a lot of flyers go there after work and fly until it gets dark, which can be almost 10pm roughly, depending on how clear the day is.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on March 17, 2009, 15:47:49 PM
The x country event is probably not what you imagine
I think there are four flags along the slope near the ridge one of which will be out of the lift
last year we had to walk to each flag then pull as many circles behind the flag in a minute and do a spot landing to end If my memory serves me right still great fun though especially getting to the flag out of the lift  :''

We have our F3F this sunday
should be fun as the wind speed says 9-6mph
(easy to race in a 30+) and we all know just saying F3F makes the lift die  :laugh:
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on March 17, 2009, 19:43:54 PM
Pity the cross country is not actual cross country, because x-c expert Dave Cox is an ESSA member and he has done some excellent x-c routes in that region, I was hoping it might be him leading an expedition from Butts to Beachy or something.

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on March 17, 2009, 20:23:31 PM
It designed to practice x country
walking and flying, going in and out of lift :af
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on March 18, 2009, 11:06:34 AM
Full description
Cross Country

The course will be set up with 4 “Turning Points” on the hill (flags) as well as a “Low Pass” point (one of the designated Turning Points) and a “Spot Landing” area. Each competitor will walk the course with a Marker to keep their score. When the pilot has reached a turning point they declare to the Marker that they are going to start their “Turns”, the Marker starts their stop-watch and gives the pilot 60 seconds in which time they have to complete as many 360 degree turns behind the Turning Point. A “Turn” is defined as a “complete” 360 degree turn behind the turning point. (Eg. a pilot flying towards the slope and going behind the turning point actually has to make a 540 degree (1 and a half turns) turn to count as their first complete turn.

Subsequent turns need only be 360 degrees.) If the pilot fly’s in front of the turning point without fully completing their turn then this does not score. Other than the 60 seconds per Turning Point there is no time limit for completion, time and care can be taken going between Turning Points. At the designated “Low Pass” point the pilot must fly the plane below the horizon as seen by the Marker. The final task is the spot landing, a disk with a cord attached will mark out a circle of approximately 5 metre radius in which the pilot must land.

Depending on the conditions (if they are good enough for the duration of the whole event as judged by the Competition Director) there may be an additional rule of “No Landing” during the task. Any pilot landing will have 2 points deducted

Scoring is made up of:

Reaching a turning point (flying the plane behind the course flag on the slope side) = 10 points

Each Completed turn behind the Turning Point within the 60 seconds = 2 points

Low Pass = 10 points

Spot Landing = 10 points

Landing penalties, if applicable)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on March 18, 2009, 21:01:29 PM
shall be up butts lane tomorrow about 3.15  :af
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on March 18, 2009, 21:54:16 PM
Have a good one, looks like it should be a good day for it ... unlike the weekend ... grrrr ...
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on March 19, 2009, 19:37:51 PM
Very educational yet confusing day at butts  $%&

when i got there the wind seemed easterly but blow was very variable

so only had 300g ballast in the Aldij launched, floated out real slow

turned to the right and hovered with lift had to put in half stick of down to penetrate

turned back to the left and shot across the slope like a rocket

made me think there was south in the wind  $%&

then wind just disappeared but the lift trebled, i almost specked out and lost it, then 2 minutes later the lift just vanished, Thermal?

Landed, throw up some grass wind was face on  $%&

went round to the north slope throw up grass, face on again  $%&

so launched there, same hover to the left and fast to the right  $%&

I can only assume the lift was split to both bowl

And turbulent would have been one hell of an under statement!!!

I wanted to ballast more, but everytime i thought that the lift would vanish

Oh by the way the north bowl at butts was massive and the landing zone was like a small country  :laugh: unfortunately due to the odd conditions i cant really comment on the lift
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on March 19, 2009, 19:44:24 PM
How can the wind have been face on from both these flying spot ?  $%&

and I flew from both spots within half an hour of each other
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on March 19, 2009, 19:47:53 PM
When it's like that it usually means the wind is the wrong direction for the slopes you're on.

A week of low winds and I cracked: I ordered a DLG today.  An electric powered Blaster 2.  Now the elements can't beat me, I'm sorted no matter what .... heh heh heh ...



Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on March 19, 2009, 19:53:08 PM


then wind just disappeared but the lift trebled, i almost specked out and lost it, then 2 minutes later the lift just vanished, Thermal?



Classic signs of a thermal out in front. The wind drops beacuse the air is getting sucked away from you up inot the thermal.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on March 19, 2009, 19:56:09 PM
 An electric powered Blaster 2.  

Sounds interesting Gary, my discus launch is one of my all time favourite models. It'll be good to see a powered one in action, what setup are you going for?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on March 19, 2009, 19:58:22 PM
Was meant to be practising for the F3F on sunday

heading to the left was great but heading to the right i could hardly move  lol
not a good practise at all
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on March 19, 2009, 20:04:36 PM

heading to the left was great but heading to the right i could hardly move  lol
not a good practise at all


unless the wind is bang on there'll always be a faster leg
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on March 19, 2009, 20:05:44 PM
Not sure what set-up I'll go for yet with the Blaster, but I'm thinking of a fairly weak lightweight motor rather than aiming for hotliner performance - I want to keep it as light and DLGish as possible ... hmmm ... what's the bet I somehow end up overpowering it anyway?

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on March 19, 2009, 20:20:13 PM
a few guys at Thurnham are flying those Greatplane built up wing warm liner things, AUW seems to be around the 18 or 20oz mark, they climb at about 45deg (or 90 with three cells) and still soar really well
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on March 19, 2009, 20:21:53 PM
Keep it light !

The motor is only a means of 'getting it up' rather than bungee/aerotow/discus launch.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on March 19, 2009, 20:23:17 PM
Paul, got a link for those Great plane jobs ?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on March 19, 2009, 20:34:45 PM
Paul that link you gave me for I. O. Sheppy yacht club was great, I checked it this morning wind was spot on, John and myself shot over there, the lift was great and we had a very good time with the whole slope to ourselves.
But with me not being to hot at it I did finish up on one of my landings 13' into a bramble bush ouch!, my plane now has lots of red on it. Its of to Holly Hill Friday, I need the practice.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on March 19, 2009, 20:36:39 PM
I thought they were these Thunder Tiger E-Hawk 1500s:

Thunder Tiger eHawk 1500 Glider (with Brushless Motor) - TT4344XX - ModelmaniacsOnline.Co.Uk (http://www.modelmaniacsonline.co.uk/products.php?ProductID=6714&CatID=423)

Quite nice little warmliners, but I think not enough performance for you, DelUK.  Maybe a Simprop Lift Off or some other hotliner like that would better suit your more advanced flying skills.  Fancy the Banana myself, you can get it with two fuses, a glider and an electric, really nice.





Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: David M on March 20, 2009, 00:20:28 AM
Hi NSEW, welcome to the forum... :af

Sorry to burst your bubble mate, but you need a south to south east wind to soar at Holly Hill. Friday looks an easterly all day... :'(... It will be coming practically left to right across the slope there. We're a bit stuffed for an easterly here on the North downs I think...unless there's a site I've not heard of yet (which is possible). We have all directions covered really on the ND apart from a pure easterly.. :embarassed:

If you can get away on Monday, it looks at the moment to be going round SW again for Thurnham or Blue Bell Hill, but the latter isn't really a beginners slope as you need to land coming up the slope which sometimes has public moving obsticals on it.. Thurnham (also called Castle Hill) is a great beginners slope with easy landing. The only down side is paragliders also fly there up to about a 15mph wind..

Cheers...
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on March 20, 2009, 07:41:07 AM
Paul, got a link for those Great plane jobs ?

Gary got the link, I got the names wrong...sorry 'bout that, I'm trying to spin a few too many plates at the moment....
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on March 20, 2009, 07:47:24 AM

But with me not being to hot at it I did finish up on one of my landings 13' into a bramble bush ouch!

I've seen a 12' job go into the side of someones house up there  :o I think the guy launched with the all moving tail rods not located through the bell crank, so the tailplane just kinda 'all moved' by itself!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on March 20, 2009, 16:42:15 PM
I've often looked at the hills at Cliffe Woods/Chattenden, as I drive past to fly at the GAC field at Cliffe.  You would be very close to the GAC field, inside the min distance BMFA guidelines I believe, so not recommended on 35MHz, but OK on 2.4GHz.  I don't believe there is enough steepness in the slope for it to be worthwhile.  I'm sure there is just about enough lift to sustain a model, but nothing more.  If you have a look, drop in to the GAC field near Rye St Farm, I might be there (although probably not Sunday if the ESSA F3F is a goer)

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Spoons on March 20, 2009, 17:59:50 PM
I took a walk up there some years back, and I'm sure you can see the club field from the top. So yes 2.4Ghz only!
I look at that hill every day I drive home from work.
Theres no way its gunna work for any sloping just not steep enough.
WOuld be nice if it was ok.
The other issue is that there is another MFC near to kingsnorth power station just the other side of high halstow,
I have often thought that some F3J models during the Gravesend open would fly over high halstow and would be very close to the kingsnorth MFC (what ever the club is called !)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: David M on March 20, 2009, 19:53:51 PM
I'm a member of GAC and the NDMFC at High Halstow/Hoo/Kingsnorth, so I was only thinking of it as a Monday/Friday fling slope which is no fly days at both clubs and would have posted it as such on here.

I thought that would get your attention Jon and Simon... :)  I think I'll put my EDF going in the other Sunday after climbout down to someone trying out that slope and sucking it into the ground... :banghead:

Just in case anyone ever saw me up there and fancied having a go, it's probably a bad idea to start flying there anyway, so I've removed my message flagging it up.. ;)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on March 20, 2009, 21:08:44 PM
I'll follow yout lead on that one David
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on March 20, 2009, 22:41:10 PM
Anyone ever flown at Ightham?  Apparently there's quite a good slope there but it's hard to spot from the road (it's below the road).
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on March 20, 2009, 23:39:59 PM
Gary, ever fly from this spot at Colley ?

Inglis Memorial, Colley Hill:: OS grid TQ2552 :: Geograph British Isles - photograph every grid square! (http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/1143523)

Looks like this is facing WSW which would appear to work from this particular spot.

How versatile is Colley for wind directions ?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on March 20, 2009, 23:49:46 PM
I suspect SW is it's limit looking at the aerial photo here. The memorial is a bit further east from the main bowl towards Reigate hill.

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=sj8758gzfq27&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=28596949&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on March 21, 2009, 06:46:11 AM
That part of Colley Hill with the rotunda on it is rumoured to be not for flying, you're supposed to fly to the west of that apparently.  But it wouldn't make much difference, Colley Hill is still very limited for wind direction because it's at the head of a valley, it only works well in S and SSW winds.  I know that slope very well (it's 20 mins from my place) and I've tried all sorts of wind directions, but really S to SSW is when it's a pleasure, SW is okay, but anything outside that and it's not much fun.

Also, DelUK, I wouldn't fly your scale glider there (ASW27 of 2.6 metres or so is it? - sorry I don't know scale gliders very well) because the landing is always turbulent and there would be too much risk of cartwheeling it.

However, for tough planes, on the right day when the wind happens to be working perfectly, Colley Hill is one of my favourite slopes because of the mega lift.  In my opinion it's the only slope on the entire North Downs that can match the best South Downs slopes for lift.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on March 21, 2009, 07:18:45 AM
Thanks Gary I'll have to give Colley another go soon. The first time I had the Mrs in tow and it was shall we say, a brief visit ! ;)

I'll let you know if I come over.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on March 21, 2009, 10:09:00 AM
Definitely let's get together on Colley some time.

I had another look a Holly Hill yesterday since I was in the area.  No wind at all so I just mucked about a bit with a little powered flying wing.  But what a great slope!  I'll have to give it its own section on the Slopehunter website, it deserves more than a mention under Castle Hill. 

Bumped into another forumite there, David M, here's a pic of his plane - the tidiest rc conversion of a Multiplex Fox I've seen. 

Those of us in/near Kent must get together on Holly Hill next time it's southeast or SSE wind. 
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on March 21, 2009, 11:45:23 AM
AT THURNHAM ALMOST NO WIND

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on March 21, 2009, 12:54:41 PM
it will probably be the wrong direction too......
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on March 21, 2009, 13:43:21 PM
AT THURNHAM ALMOST NO WIND



that was the other week then Rob? by the way who's that ugly b#stard doing the half @rsed hand catch?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on March 21, 2009, 13:45:39 PM
Anyone ever flown at Ightham?  Apparently there's quite a good slope there but it's hard to spot from the road (it's below the road).


I've never flown there, but I know a few who do or have done. You have to be a club member (of which club I am unsure) and I hear that the wind has to be smack on SSW or it's a no hoper, though I have heard the landing is good for quarter scale and the like.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on March 21, 2009, 15:54:59 PM
I went to Thurnham today and took the electric glider as I thought it was to be NW light winds, got there and it was W/SW 6/9 mph, John was there flying his Wildthing, another guy with his electric Graupner, and two guys from towards Portsmouth, one with a Multiplex Cularis and the other hat a EX IT wing, the wind was off and on, but ok nice a sunny so had a good time.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on March 21, 2009, 21:30:31 PM
Paul, what's your DLG?  I was watching you flying it along the sea wall in Kent, looks great.  What sort of weight is it?  What sort of servos did you use to keep it light?


Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on March 22, 2009, 09:28:50 AM
Paul, what's your DLG?  I was watching you flying it along the sea wall in Kent, looks great.  What sort of weight is it?  What sort of servos did you use to keep it light?




Yes Gary, it's mine I bought second hand it had been badly built and by the look of it badly flown. Its a 'Salome' and has HS55s in the fuz and Perkins pico servos in the wing. I re-did all the control runs and the tailfeathers and had to add a load of lead to the tail to get the CG in the optimum position.

I have flown it to death (on several occasions) only for it to be reborn with more glass and carbon holding the pod together. I've never weighed it but I think it comes out at about 11 or 12 oz at a guess. I have flown it from the flat and on the right day can usually 'get away' for a good 10min or so flight. Off the slope in marginal conditions it reigns supreme and gets me up and away when everyone else is on the ground.

I know the comp guys obsess about ever gram of weight, but personally I wouldn't worry too much it. Rare in the UK is a day with no wind and as soon as things get above about 7mph this model is no fun at all.

Your may well benefit from the extra weight of the electric setup, it'll give you a wider operating window, and you won't have to worry about the 'porkiness' impacting on you launch heights as you won't be throwing it.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on March 22, 2009, 10:56:51 AM
Thanks for that.

I see it's strong west winds tomorrow (Monday) - anyone flying?

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on March 22, 2009, 11:01:34 AM
It's NW today so John and myself are of to Farthing Common.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on March 22, 2009, 11:19:10 AM
Paul

Thanks for your opinion on the Weasel Pro.

It is new and unused with quite good gear in it, I know that I will probably kill it, and that I have paid to much for it, Richter kits, I've heard a rumour that he's only going to be selling expensive composite kits from now on, not sure if it's true or not.

I am hoping that it will fly in lighter winds than my Wildthing 46" mk111, the Weasel only weighs 294g all up weight.

I will start looking for a LIGHT wind glider for the slope, any one got any thoughts?, I am a beginer'ish so something that won't break too easily LOL.

Rob
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on March 22, 2009, 11:58:22 AM
Well you know you can't go wrong with a Multiplex Easyglider for a light wind, stable glider.  But if you're a bit more advanced you might find its lack of aerobatic ability annoying.  There's a Graupner equivalent that I think is a bit more aerobatic - the Junior S.  If you don't want foam there are some very nice balsa light wind gliders - but they will break easily.  There's so many choices it all depends what you fancy...

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on March 22, 2009, 14:36:16 PM
My first Mid-air
Who Won? Aldij Vs Phase 6
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on March 22, 2009, 14:39:54 PM
I'm gonna guess the Phase 6 came off worse in that one.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on March 22, 2009, 14:43:33 PM
I lost two carbon wing joiners and broke a servo arm

and got yellow paint on my wing  >:(
 ;D
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on March 22, 2009, 14:44:07 PM
Oh and the P6
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on March 22, 2009, 18:57:21 PM
Well you know you can't go wrong with a Multiplex Easyglider for a light wind, stable glider.  But if you're a bit more advanced you might find its lack of aerobatic ability annoying.  There's a Graupner equivalent that I think is a bit more aerobatic - the Junior S.  If you don't want foam there are some very nice balsa light wind gliders - but they will break easily.  There's so many choices it all depends what you fancy...



I already have a Brush-less upgraded Multiplex Easystar which is OK, and I quite like the fact that it goes NR. vertical.

I went to Farthing Common today and the wind was variable so not great, but when I couldn't fly the Wildthing the Easy Star stayed up there forever, I have put a Lipo 3s 2250 20C/30C with a 2200kv motor APCe 6x4 prop and 33amp esc, all I need to do know is get the wings a little stiffer as they do flutter a little when I pull out of a steep'ish dive, I will either put three strips of 1" cross weave tape on the bottom of each wing, or put longer carbon spar in the wings.

I just fancy some thing light with ailerons, maybe a Thunder Tiger E Hawk 1500, though I'm not to sure it has ailerons.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on March 22, 2009, 19:40:59 PM
What you need is a Multiplex Blizzard.  That makes a great step up from an Easyglider, although it's totally different - much faster, more agile, aerobatic ... but no inbuilt stability, it won't just sit up there while you blow your nose like an Easyglider will.  The Thunder Tiger's good, but it will break easily of course.  The Blizzard probably offers better soaring and aerobatic performance, but the Thunder Tiger is very nice too if you like the see-through balsa wing look better than the foam Blizzard.  To my mind the Blizzard looks a bit ordinary on the ground but is impressive in the air.


Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on March 22, 2009, 20:01:58 PM
Does that mean I can't eat my sandwiches and drink my coffee like today when I was flying my EZ*, that must mean that I would have to keep looking at the Blizzard ALL THE TIME Hmmmmm, maybe its not for me, but I can smoke a fag and pick my nose while i'm flying the Wildthing so it might be OK.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on March 23, 2009, 18:05:46 PM
I think I will stick to Wildthings for a while as my landings are not too good at all.

I was at Thurnham today WNW 30mph gusting to 38mph, I could handle the launching and flying with NO problems....LANDING was a different story, John who was with me could float it down right next to him time after time, I seem to go back behind me trying to make a proper approach and I finish up too far back or a controlled CRASH!! I did manage 1 good landing......but my last landing as I was going back behind me a strong gust hit it and in I went nose first and snapped the Fuzz. OH WELL its nearly back together again, I don't think you can kill a Wildthing......they just get heavier.

It's stripped ready for gluing but I am not to sure if I should use epoxy or the white glue that came with the kit that I joined the wings together with...any tips would be great?.

I was surprised that no one else was flying up there today, and I was also surprised that the Wildthing flies in 30mph + winds at all, what a great model!!.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on March 23, 2009, 18:14:37 PM
It's really hard to fly in 30mph+ winds.  I stopped by Long Man today after a work meeting and flew my carbon reinforced, heavy SAS Fusion 60.  The wind was 40mph and it was crazy.  Even the Fusion was like an EasyGlider in a hurricane.  I can't decide whether I had a heroic adventure or whether I was a muppet for trying to fly.  Here's the facts of the matter:

(1) Every time I held up my plane to launch it, it smacked me in the face.
(2) The wind broke my wind meter.
(3) I had about a dozen lashes (ie halfway between landings and crashes)
(4) I lost my cap.  I lost my frequency pennant.  (They blew over the back and lodged in the Long Man's armpit, probably).
(5) Dazed and confused, I took the wrong path back down and ended up about a mile from my car.

So based on the evidence I would have to say I was definitely a muppet!  Had amazing flights though, and maybe that's all that really counts...


Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on March 23, 2009, 18:27:28 PM
To be honest, I loved it, I would have thought that a 60" Fusion would have flown a lot better than a 46" Wildthing in the big blow today, as I said launching and flying was the easy part for me, and both of us was getting some terrific height it was great, I will be flying again in those winds with the Wildthing, but how did you get on with landings, is it normal to be that hard in that kind of wind, or am I just crap....the latter I guess.....any help on which glue for the Black foam Fuzz?

The wind was so strong that you could put the plane by your chest and let go and it would not fall, it was great.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on March 23, 2009, 18:30:15 PM
Its a wing thing
All wings are tricky to land well in high wind
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on March 23, 2009, 18:37:11 PM
Its a wing thing
All wings are tricky to land well in high wind


I found it very hard, but what John was doing was to get the WT just above head height to the left of him, then dropping the right wing and planting it gently at his feet, time after time, I could not as much as I tried get into the position to drop the right wing, I suppose he is just gifted.

It makes me feel a bit better by you saying that wings are harder to land in a good blow.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on March 23, 2009, 19:16:39 PM
I think the trouble is that landing across the slope they are just too fast (no brakes) and doing a square landing they don't hold enough energy/penetration and you risk going over the back

my only advice would be to fly up the slope towards yourself and hope plane meets ground before plane meets head  :laugh:

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on March 23, 2009, 19:21:09 PM
I found it very hard, but what John was doing was to get the WT just above head height to the left of him, then dropping the right wing and planting it gently at his feet, time after time, I could not as much as I tried get into the position to drop the right wing, I suppose he is just gifted.

It makes me feel a bit better by you saying that wings are harder to land in a good blow.
once you know the SLOPE and the MODEL in every condition you can do anything
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on March 23, 2009, 19:29:50 PM
I think the trouble is that landing across the slope they are just too fast (no brakes) and doing a square landing they don't hold enough energy/penetration and you risk going over the back


yup, you do the square approach, push in some down on the final leg and you effectively put a load of camber into the section, so rather than penetrating you tend to ballon up, then the wind gets under you and you cartwheel off downwind

proof that a flying wing has a narrower operating range when compared to a similar span conventional layout
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on March 23, 2009, 19:51:34 PM
Thanks Paul I was waiting for your knowledge to put some sense to what i was trying to say
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: David M on March 24, 2009, 03:55:32 AM
Pleasure to meet you on Friday Aeronaut, Pity the wind wasn't playing ball, it could have been a good flying afternoon at Holly Hill. Easterlies are a no no there sadly, like SW'lies

I agree with you on the slope being good. It just takes a little care and luck on the landing to avoid anything nasty coming into contact with your model. My Blob is just the right tool for the site and has survived relatively unscathed for 15 years..so far... :af

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on March 24, 2009, 08:16:17 AM
Gary
The next time your my way in a north, try to fly the north bowl at butts
I can't believe i had never flown it
I think its one of the best slope I've flown
I had nice clean lift, A landing zone the size of a small country and a bowl three times the size of firle  ::cc

the only down side seems so be the walk, as its over the next ridge from the east bowl

the landing zone is like firle without the carpark of fences

I have yet to try in in a good blow to see what the turb and lift is like then

I was flying the Aldij quite happy in a 6 with gusts up to 8

and you could almost land on the dark side  :af
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on March 24, 2009, 20:53:52 PM
Sounds good, I'll definitely have to get there.  I had a look at that slope, it looked great, really big and really steep.  Long Man is an amazing place, that's for sure.  I don't mind the hike - but I wouldn't try to lug a 4-metre scale glider up there!


Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on March 25, 2009, 21:14:14 PM
T'other day I bumped into an expert flyer I know, Steve, so I let him fly my Jart.  It was nice to be able to photograph it.  Not sure I'll be able to get away this weekend, anybody forming any plans?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on March 25, 2009, 21:56:53 PM
Kids all weekend for me :'(
But clocks go forward on sunday so i can fly till 7.30 most eves  ::cc
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Mark 250 on March 25, 2009, 22:33:27 PM
Looks like Firle possibly on Saturday afternoon or Long man on Sunday. Might take a walk over to Caburn tomorrow if the wind gets a goes a bit more southerly.
Mark J
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on March 26, 2009, 18:17:33 PM
Another great day at Thurnam, there were 4 of us, a guy from France with something that looks like an Albatross, it flew very nice, 2 Wildthings, and I think his name is Reg with a pilon'ish thing.

It was SW strong wind with very strong gusts, if I was to guess I would say it was 25mph and gusts up to 35mph.

Today there was only 1 drama, John forgot to switch his RX on and his WThing nearly went to Hollingbourne...I did laugh.

Whoopee I managed ALL PERFECT LANDINGS, I hope it continues, plus I found that doing loops, rolls etc. were easy in the SW, so all in all a good day was had.......Roll on tomorrow. ;D
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Mark 250 on March 28, 2009, 00:48:21 AM
looking good for Firle, anyone one about in the afternoon??
Mark J
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on April 01, 2009, 09:35:37 AM
Bopeep today  :af

P6 refurb maiden i hope
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 01, 2009, 12:23:11 PM
good luck Allen, I'd be interested to know how it goes. With it being such a heavy weight I would have thought you'd have given it a toss the week.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Mark 250 on April 01, 2009, 15:27:42 PM
Allen. I'll try to get to Bopeep this evening about 5.30-6 with any luck may see you there
Mark J
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on April 01, 2009, 15:43:40 PM
Home now, was great day
lots of turb on the launch due to bushes at the lip of the bowl, but once out smooth and strong lift Bedlam struggled to penetrate and even ended up pinned to the fence after landing  lol

P6 was great, needed a little camber to get out to the bowl, but once out was amazing the pro wing is something else i think i spent more time inverted that right way up  lol

As i had never flown bopeep before i was not sure where to launch, its a big slope and i may have been launching in a turb place anyway

The only thing i need to do is mod the rudder as a perfect textbook landing still ripped the rudder off, just gonna take 10mm of the bottom for better ground clearance

The Aldij fully ballasted was in her element even with full ballast i had to stop her from disappearing in to the clouds (what there was of them)

good days flying, shame it was only me and two handgliders
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Mark 250 on April 01, 2009, 19:58:15 PM
Allen,just got back from Bopeep, awesome lift, wind was 45+mph. I see what you mean about the turbulence at the lip, taped as much lead as I had on to the synergy. It took awhile to get out but once out about 40yds it was quite smooth.
Where did you fly from? If you go East from the car park past the bushes and dew pond to the top of the hill there's a wide open space with no bushes and a huge landing area even I can get down in.
Looking like SSW for Saturday possibly Long man in the afternoon
Mark J 
 
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on April 01, 2009, 20:56:30 PM
I wish I'd been able to get to Bopeep, that's one of my favourite sites.  I was working in the Thames Valley so I stopped at Butser Hill, Hampshire, on the way home.  That has quite a good northeast slope but the wind was a bit too ENE and frankly the lift was lousy.  Butser is okay, but those premier south downs slopes are a hard act to follow.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on April 01, 2009, 21:13:57 PM
John and myself spent all afternoon at Minster I O Sheppy along with a few from Barton Point Club, 15 to 20 mph NE lovely sun shine, flask of coffee, NO WIFE..............it was great.......Same again tomorrow ;D
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 01, 2009, 21:28:16 PM
Wouldn't a day down at Bopeep be superb in this weather! I'm afarid I'm snowed under with work at the moment, holding out hope for south westerlies on Saturday and Sunday. At least it's good to hear you other chaps are getting out and making good use of the wind!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on April 01, 2009, 21:42:18 PM
At least it's good to hear you other chaps are getting out and making good use of the wind!

not all of us Paul  :(

(not counting the weekend as a decent 'sesh', even if I did get to some premier slopes)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on April 01, 2009, 21:56:33 PM
Allen,just got back from Bopeep, awesome lift, wind was 45+mph. I see what you mean about the turbulence at the lip, taped as much lead as I had on to the synergy. It took awhile to get out but once out about 40yds it was quite smooth.
Where did you fly from? If you go East from the car park past the bushes and dew pond to the top of the hill there's a wide open space with no bushes and a huge landing area even I can get down in.
Looking like SSW for Saturday possibly Long man in the afternoon
Mark J 
 

that's exactly where i flew from

and sat afternoon weather permitting sound good to me
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: NickK on April 02, 2009, 08:33:42 AM
Been concentrating on power pylon last couple of weeks (1st meet next Sunday) but hope to be back out on the slopes for some evening sessions after that  :af
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on April 02, 2009, 08:49:48 AM
Just give me a bell anytime Nick when your coming my way  :af

Oh and you know i had a good days flying yesterday, well on my way home a bus pulled out in front of me, making me slam on the breaks hard, found out later the the v tail on the Aldij had slammed in to my seat ripping off the elevator and ripping out the control horn  >:(
I understand they have to be pushy but to pull out with no indication when the car is along side  >:(
All fixed now though just waiting for the silicone to dry  :af
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on April 02, 2009, 09:09:26 AM
Oh and Nick I have not need the TX Mitt the last few visits, so should be able to hand over the Aldij for you to have a go, next time we are out  :af
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: NickK on April 02, 2009, 09:17:46 AM
Cheers Allen - will do  :af

Poxy buses - i hate it when they do that - usually when there's nothing behind you either  >:(

Be nice to go up on the slopes without risking hypothermia - not done that yet  ;D

Bit busy this week - apart from work Darren and i need 4 models between us for sunday. On tuesday we had three so did a testing session and managed to break them all  ::)

Hopefully be out next week  :)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on April 02, 2009, 12:07:38 PM
Mark Here is where i flew from
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Leebert on April 02, 2009, 21:22:42 PM
Hi guys

Newbie (ish) here :) Apologies for hijacking...

I was looking into the wind direction for this weekend to do a bit of sloping. I am not far from Gatwick and was looking at Box Hill's West slope on Saturday. I've not flown there before and wouldn't mind a bit of advice please. Is Box Hill a good place for a newish soarer to go or is there a better slope for this weekend?

Thanks
Lee
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on April 02, 2009, 21:27:32 PM
Hi Leebert - can't remember if we bumped into each other at one of the Ashford (heli) fly-ins?  You may be better heading for Thurnham on Saturday - XC weather says it will be on, and you should find others flying there - it is a great slope if you are just starting slope, with a good landing area.

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 02, 2009, 21:49:19 PM
I'll be up at Thurnham on Sat if the wind is good, as Simon says it's a kind slope with easy landing and a good crowd.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Mark 250 on April 02, 2009, 22:52:00 PM
Allen. Walk about 150 meters past that spot and the slopes free from bushes and the fence behind is further back. A much nicer spot to fly from.
Had a bit of a disaster this evening. Getting my Bedlam ready hopefully for a maiden on Saturday,just pushing a bit of foam behind the battery when nasty smell of burning foam and lots of smoke accompanied with language that can't be repeated here. Must have caught the socket/switch with the foam  :banghead:. Wiring a mess, fuselage is OK at least it didn't happen in the air, that would be embarrassing. Hopefully I'll get it repaire for the weekend.
Mark J   
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on April 02, 2009, 23:10:39 PM
Leebert, that west slope on Box Hill isn't very good, it's too flat, I think you might be disappointed.  There's no harm in trying it but your plane may refuse to rise much. 

Some experienced flyers enjoy trying to find lift on a meagre slope like that, but for a beginner, Castle Hill (also called Detling or Thurnham) would be much better.  If you can be bothered travelling that far.  Also at Castle Hill there will be friendly people to help, at Box Hill you would be alone. 

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on April 02, 2009, 23:14:23 PM
what about Mill hill ? Not too far from the Gatwick area is it....
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on April 03, 2009, 07:07:24 AM
Yes, even better - Mill Hill's a great site.  More lift than Castle Hill and a similarly friendly bunch.  From Gatwick, Mill Hill wouldn't take long to get to at all.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on April 03, 2009, 08:33:28 AM
Allen. Walk about 150 meters past that spot and the slopes free from bushes and the fence behind is further back. A much nicer spot to fly from.
Had a bit of a disaster this evening. Getting my Bedlam ready hopefully for a maiden on Saturday,just pushing a bit of foam behind the battery when nasty smell of burning foam and lots of smoke accompanied with language that can't be repeated here. Must have caught the socket/switch with the foam  :banghead:. Wiring a mess, fuselage is OK at least it didn't happen in the air, that would be embarrassing. Hopefully I'll get it repaire for the weekend.
Mark J   
I was gonna leave the bedlam at home on saturday but the thought of two doing some synchronized flying is to great
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Leebert on April 03, 2009, 21:17:11 PM
Hi Guys,
Thanks for the replies.  :)
I initially choose Box Hill as I am in the area tomorrow mid morning. I have flown at Mill Hill and liked it there but not been to Castle Hill (or Detling, or Thurnham). Does anyone have a map or GPS reference please? I don't think I'll be able to get there this weekend but another weekend possibly...
Thanks
Lee
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on April 03, 2009, 21:34:29 PM
Home - Slopehunter guide to slope soaring sites (http://www.slopehunter.co.uk)

Click on the link above, the map and all the details are on there under castle hill.

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Phil.Taylor on April 03, 2009, 22:34:38 PM
I'll be up at Thurnham on Sat if the wind is good, as Simon says it's a kind slope with easy landing and a good crowd.
Hoping to get up there too
Paul - PM sent
Phil
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on April 03, 2009, 22:37:02 PM
Hoping to get up there too
Paul - PM sent
Phil

Back in the smoke Phil, yuk ! I was down in Devon and Cornwall last weekend, far more civilised  :)

Shame I can't make it this weekend, have fun...
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Mark 250 on April 04, 2009, 01:33:27 AM
Got the Bedlem sorted. Looking  good for Long Man this afternoon, hope to be there  between 1 and 2. Must get to bed, long evening with Mr Harvey  :-X
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on April 04, 2009, 07:23:18 AM
Looks like you may as well try the west slope at Box Hill, Leebert.  The wind forecast is looking suspiciously west rather than southwest.  West is pretty borderline for Mill Hill or Castle Hill.  I have flown Mill Hill in west and it sort of worked, and I've also flown Castle Hill in west and it sort of didn't work.  So if you're in the Box Hill area you've got nothing to lose by trying there.

Me?  Babysitting.  My lovely wife is at the end of her tether and needs a break.  I'm toying with the idea of going to Beltinge, pushing the pram around and photographing the site.

Starting to put together the Blaster 2e.  It's getting expensive, nothing I've got fits, I need to buy miniature everything.
 
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Leebert on April 04, 2009, 07:39:29 AM
Thanks for that  :)
Gonna pop the Wildthing in the car and give it a go at Box Hill. Like you say, nothing to lose.
Cheers
Lee
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on April 04, 2009, 09:46:30 AM
I know how you feel Gary, I'm in a similar position with a 4 yr old and baby of 8 months. I'm hoping on getting in a good session over the long bank holiday weekend.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on April 04, 2009, 18:03:24 PM
If you could choose one plane at Castle Hill today not to get wrecked in a mid-air, it would be this one...
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on April 04, 2009, 18:04:50 PM
Here she is in happier times...
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on April 04, 2009, 18:11:27 PM
I wasn't flying, I was observing, with this crew in tow ...

At the precise moment the CRACK of the midair echoed across the field, my one year old let out a cry of anguish and filled his nappy with a megapoop, all up his back and down his legs ... this act of performance art was a poigant representation of the feelings of all of us there ...
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Leebert on April 04, 2009, 18:49:06 PM
Ouch :( That looks bad.
I didn't go to Box Hill this morning in the end due to rain but went to find Castle Hill in the afternoon on the bike. Didn't see any gliders but did see a fair few para-gliders. Is that on the same hill?
Only took 40 mins and looked a really nice place :)
Cheers,
Lee
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 04, 2009, 19:55:49 PM

At the precise moment the CRACK of the midair echoed across the field, my one year old let out a cry of anguish and filled his nappy with a megapoop, all up his back and down his legs



as did I
(post traumatic stress disorder)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Spoons on April 04, 2009, 19:59:36 PM
Went to Folkestone early this morning and flew the zagi with Simon, some great comebat shame the lift came and went,
Only left when my antenna got broken after a hit and she went free flight towards the channel, lucky she went down in a spral dive.
Did a few jobs at home then took the Mrs to Thurnham for a quite evening of flying.
Had a moment when I switched on the wrong freq due to me setting up the wrong freq on my synth module.
(sorry if I nearly shot you down !)

But once I sorted that out I flew the Ascot for about an hour none stop on the early evening thermals, with out ballast.
Was nothing fast but was still a good fun.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 04, 2009, 20:08:41 PM
John, you missed all the carnage!

Alan had a softer landing....
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Phil.Taylor on April 04, 2009, 20:45:19 PM
At the precise moment the CRACK of the midair echoed across the field, my one year old let out a cry of anguish and filled his nappy with a megapoop, all up his back and down his legs ... this act of performance art was a poigant representation of the feelings of all of us there ...
LOL - thanks for that - just cracked me up  ;D
It was certainly one hell of a bang  :o
and the fus was buried 8+ inches in hard ground, but survived intact.
It is repairable, and will live to fly another day, but for the moment the Falcon is back in its carry box & will stay there until I pluck up courage to examine the wreckage more closely. I'll put some pics up on another thread for repair suggestions.
It was a great days flying before the great event though
Phil
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Spoons on April 04, 2009, 20:52:21 PM
The poor models.
Not very nice seeing broken mouldies :(

I reckon Tony Fu could fix the Falcon though.

The lift went at the end around 7pm but the sun was very low at that time so I wasn't that unhappy.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on April 04, 2009, 22:02:05 PM
carnage at aThurnahm !

Got a report Paul ?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 04, 2009, 22:25:49 PM
Goodwind Slope Soaring: oh the horror! (http://goodwindsoaring.blogspot.com/2009/04/oh-horror.html)

the poor chaps!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Phil.Taylor on April 04, 2009, 23:34:50 PM
I rather like this one - I wondered what you guys were up to hiding in the trees  :)
Phil
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on April 05, 2009, 07:19:57 AM
You know what was really funny yesterday ... the look of confusion on a couple of flyers faces when they arrived to find a load of planes set out with no flyers visible anywhere (you were all off trying to de-tree the mouldie).

They looked nervously at me crouched in the field changing a nappy.

"Er, are you a flyer then?"

"Yeah, I am actually."

"These planes all yours?"

"Nope."

"Oh okay ... so which is yours?"

"Er ... none of them."

Look of total confusion returns...

If I'd been a bit quicker I should have said "Oh, haven't you heard?  It's the charity glider giveaway today.  Guys drop off planes they don't want, and anyone can come along and take whatever they want.  You're lucky, there's still quite a few left, so grab whatever takes your fancy ..."

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on April 06, 2009, 11:48:36 AM
Here is another one that likes the Trees at Thurnham, he was coming in for landing, and managed to smack the tallest tree, down it went finishing up on the road and NO DAMAGE, how lucky is that. Although he doesn't look to pleased!! :embarassed:





Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on April 06, 2009, 12:02:44 PM
Looks like a Parkzone Radian - any good ?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on April 06, 2009, 12:25:11 PM
Nice Flying with you one Saturday Mark your new bedlam was so smooth and efficient compared to my battered old one  ;D

Lift just got stronger and stronger

Thought it was funny that that guy turned up with the 2m Fling, and stated he would not fly in anything stronger, and by the time i left he must having been fling in over 20mph, I was a bit jealous at times seeing him so relaxed as i hacked across the slope with my toes scrunched up  ;D
I did get a little footage of your Bedlam on my phone I'll try to post it here later if its any good.(if i can convert from phone format)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 06, 2009, 12:42:23 PM
Looks like a Parkzone Radian - any good ?

seemed to float around ok from what I saw
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on April 06, 2009, 17:22:45 PM
Yet another mid air today at Holly Hill, it was the guy that was at Thurnham the other day with his Coyote, it was a good whack and sadly it was a right off.

Apart from that it was a good day up there, lots of lift, I also tried out my newly built Swinger (Team Monkey) made of 6mm and 3mm depron, it flew quite well but it needs a little rates and exp. for me to fly it, the cost of the build was only £20 inc servos......cant be bad.
Title: Couple of vids from Saturday
Post by: Phil.Taylor on April 06, 2009, 19:17:41 PM
Heres a couple of vid clips of happier events on Saturday.

Maiden flight of Stuart's Jart_LT
link --> Jart-LT at Thurnham on Vimeo (http://www.vimeo.com/4020505)

Paul's "new" Cobra Calypso going over-the-edge
link --> Cobra Calypso launch on Vimeo (http://www.vimeo.com/4020532)

After uploading them last night, its only taken vimeo 18+ hours to process them

Phil
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on April 06, 2009, 19:59:40 PM
You know what's most impressive about that Jart maiden?  How slow it can go!

You probably think I'm joking, but we know the Jart can handle big air and go fast - the real test is 'is it a pig to fly', as in flicking out, high stall speed etc, or is it a good'un, easy to launch, easy to land, low stall speed, enjoyable to live with etc.  I've really enjoyed my Jart LT because it can go slow without biting, and it's a really pleasant all-rounder of a plane to fly. 
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on April 06, 2009, 20:01:10 PM
Is anybody planning any soaring over the Easter weekend?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Russell on April 06, 2009, 20:04:56 PM
I'm hoping to! My Swinger still needs to be maidened
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on April 06, 2009, 20:14:55 PM
I will need my regular slope fix.  The winds have mostly not been favourable this year at the weekends

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Russell on April 06, 2009, 20:17:49 PM
Agreed, don't you hate reading the posts from people who are on the slope 4 days in a row telling us how good it was then the weekend comes & everything goes tits up!
Title: Re: Couple of vids from Saturday
Post by: paul w on April 06, 2009, 20:22:34 PM


Paul's "new" Cobra Calypso going over-the-edge
link --> Cobra Calypso launch on Vimeo ([url]http://www.vimeo.com/4020532[/url])



Thanks for that Phil, I especially like the burble of the skylark juxtaposed with the ramblings of Ray in the background
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 06, 2009, 20:24:41 PM
Is anybody planning any soaring over the Easter weekend?

I've got to do family stuff on Saturday, but other than that I'm hoping for a few good sessions.
Title: Re: Couple of vids from Saturday
Post by: Phil.Taylor on April 06, 2009, 20:36:45 PM
Thanks for that Phil, I especially like the burble of the skylark juxtaposed with the ramblings of Ray in the background
LOL - it was straight from the camera - no editing attempted
Phil
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on April 06, 2009, 22:42:50 PM
Is anybody planning any soaring over the Easter weekend?

I'm hoping the weather is favourable on Friday, if it is I'll be on the hill...  :xx
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Leebert on April 07, 2009, 07:30:52 AM
Anyone fly at Pewley Down near Guildford?
A friend saw a buch of flyers down there once - in a SW wind I think.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on April 07, 2009, 13:03:36 PM
Looks good.  Quite shallow so no major lift, but looks flyable.  Right near Guildford town centre so will be crowded on nice days.  I'm in that area quite often so I'll check it out some time.

Streetmap - Homepage (http://www.streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?x=500862&y=149032&z=120&sv=500862,149032&st=4&ar=y&mapp=map.srf&searchp=ids.srf&dn=786&ax=500862&ay=149032&lm=0)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on April 07, 2009, 19:27:59 PM
I stopped at Colley Hill after work today and flew there.  20mph SW.  My god it was turbulent.  It was doing that strange phenomenon of 'mega-lift' that I've only ever experienced at that hill, where you're flying normally and suddenly the plane shoots upwards so fast that it's almost out of sight before you react.  I counted less than 2 seconds to gain maybe 500 feet.  Seems impossible but it happened several times.  Anyone noticed that at other hills?

 
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 07, 2009, 19:35:05 PM
they be thermals
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on April 07, 2009, 19:46:08 PM
No, far too powerful!  Thermals are pansyish things for finesse flyers aren't they? I'm taking about Odin reaching a burly arm down from heavens and heaving that plane up in the blink of an eye!

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 07, 2009, 19:58:10 PM
they be BOOMERS
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on April 07, 2009, 21:49:56 PM
Looks good.  Quite shallow so no major lift, but looks flyable.  Right near Guildford town centre so will be crowded on nice days.  I'm in that area quite often so I'll check it out some time.

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looks pretty good to me Gary.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on April 09, 2009, 09:05:45 AM
Here you go mark some very crab mobile phone footage of your bedlam on the day of her maiden
sorry it's so crap and this was all i could get, but hey it's better than nothing or maybe it ain't   :''
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWoupdiMziE
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on April 09, 2009, 09:46:34 AM
Another gorgeous Model went in yesterday at Thurnham, Alan's Blade 1.8, it was flying really lovely with low passes and that nice screaming sound as he rolled out of the low pass, then as it headed away from the slope, NO RESPONSE to the sticks, down she went out of control to the bottom of the slope, the good side is that it is repairable, they say it comes in three's, he's now had them, so he should have some luck from now on.

I also snapped the nose off my Wildthind, slammed it into the fence, the nose went one way, the battery and receiver etc. another, a bit of tape and 5 Min's. later back up in the sky, Alan Head told me that they were unbreakable, but I am so bad at flying that everyone lands when I go up :embarrassed:

On a good note, Ray had two successful flights, and landings, and got a round of applause.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on April 09, 2009, 10:01:03 AM
Was the blade flown on 2.4 or 35 ?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on April 09, 2009, 10:03:29 AM
Was the blade flown on 2.4 or 35 ?

It was 35, Alan said it was a worn Battery ext. lead that could have caused the loss of signal.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on April 09, 2009, 11:44:59 AM
Ray had two successful flights and landings?!  I don't believe it!  Is this THE Ray?  Wrecker Ray?  I thought he'd given up flying and was purely a groupie now ... surely you must mean some other Ray?



Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on April 09, 2009, 12:19:45 PM
Yep!!.....That is the Ray.....This is he in reverse :uk:

Picture Stolen from      http://www.goodwindsoaring.blogspot.com/    Sorry Paul :nananana:

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on April 09, 2009, 14:24:46 PM
I SOOOO did not need to see that.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on April 09, 2009, 14:39:15 PM
I SOOOO did not need to see that.

+1, I'd just had my fish and chip lunch too when faced with that  :o
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on April 09, 2009, 15:22:30 PM
The damn forecast is all over the place for this weekend, seems to be changing every few hours. Curse of the bank holiday weekend I suppose..... not good for slope trip planning.

Trouble is I can't just get up and go at the drop of a hat, unlike some of you slope bums !
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on April 09, 2009, 15:59:44 PM
Don't know what you mean, it takes me a good 10 to 15 minutes   :nananana:
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on April 09, 2009, 22:27:40 PM
I'm going to make a last minute decision about whether to fly tomorrow.  I'm out in the morning and when I get home at lunchtime I'll decide.  The odds don't look great since the morning is meant to be better.

DelUK, do what I do: say you're definitely going.  Then call it off if necessary.  You get more brownie points for that than doing it the other way around.

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on April 10, 2009, 14:46:58 PM
Leebert, I was in Guildford today so I checked out the hot sloping action ... not.

Pewley Down is too shallow a gradient to really count as a slope soaring site, plus there is another hill blocking the wind.  But I met a guy who used to fly balsa gliders there, he reckoned there was virtually no slope lift, but the thermals were good.  So if you lived in Guildford it could be good fun on a warm summer evening to just walk up from the town centre and seek out the thermals with a floaty plane.  But it's not the sort of slope anyone would travel to.

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Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on April 10, 2009, 14:49:27 PM
If you travel a mile south, the hill that blocks Pewley Down is a similar gradient, but probably a bit better due to not having a Hill blocking it.

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Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on April 10, 2009, 14:58:41 PM
Or better still travel a couple of miles east to Newlands corner.  The slopes there are a little higher, but still too gentle.  Look at this huge sloping field, what a great place to fly a discus-launch glider or something similar.

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Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on April 10, 2009, 15:01:26 PM
Anyone up for flying on Monday?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Leebert on April 10, 2009, 16:04:07 PM
Yes, if I can get a pass.
Where?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on April 10, 2009, 16:18:28 PM
my first time (flying) today at Holly Hill - fantastic, just what I needed !
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Leebert on April 10, 2009, 16:22:03 PM
Cool - sounds great  :)
No flying here - doing nowt but watching the rain come down :(
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on April 10, 2009, 16:59:38 PM
Hang on, DelUK, you flew today?  Around Guildford it never stopped raining so I figured there was no point going to Holly Hill ... I should have come ... bummer!

The wind looks good on Monday although it may be too wet, but if it's flyable I'll definitely do it.  South winds give a lot of options ... decisions, decisions ...


Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 10, 2009, 17:25:35 PM
Hang on, DelUK, you flew today?  Around Guildford it never stopped raining so I figured there was no point going to Holly Hill ... I should have come ... bummer!

The wind looks good on Monday although it may be too wet, but if it's flyable I'll definitely do it.  South winds give a lot of options ... decisions, decisions ...




Gary I texted you......you missed out big time I'm afraid it was lovely at Holly
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on April 10, 2009, 17:43:20 PM
I found Holly Hill today the best Slope in the UK!!

Everyone that went there today was greeted with a FREE BBQ provided and cooked by Paul, Great hot dogs assortment of salad, he would make someone a lovely wife....LOL :study:

Also Paul provides FREE Glider retrieval and Tree Hugging sessions......what a nice man :uk:

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on April 10, 2009, 17:43:41 PM
yes Paul texted you, did you not get the message ?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 10, 2009, 17:48:29 PM

Everyone that went there today was greeted with a FREE BBQ provided and cooked by Paul



cheers Rob, but thanks to Deryck too!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 10, 2009, 17:54:17 PM
Weather exactly as forecast with sunny spells and rain stopping play at about 3.30, lovely day with only 4 planes in the trees.

Gary, Monday is looking good for Holly if you want to make up for todays shoddy no show

pan across to see the extent of the landing area (it is smaller in reality)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 10, 2009, 17:58:58 PM
almost like the old days
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Leebert on April 10, 2009, 18:07:55 PM
Where abouts is Holly Hill? Looks like a nice place.
Is that a Stargazer in the foreground?

Regards
Lee
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on April 10, 2009, 18:17:57 PM
N S E W, just worked out who you are. Thanks for helping me get the big 3.4m glider out of the bushes!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 10, 2009, 18:34:50 PM

Is that a Stargazer in the foreground?


with that colour scheme do you really have to ask? :)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on April 10, 2009, 18:44:29 PM
N S E W, just worked out who you are. Thanks for helping me get the big 3.4m glider out of the bushes!

No problem, and thanks for the BBQ.

Stargazer brought back to earth.

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on April 10, 2009, 18:50:23 PM
Leebert, to see where Holly Hill is, go here and scroll down:

Slopes E-J - Slopehunter guide to slope soaring sites (http://www.slopehunter.co.uk/7.html)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on April 10, 2009, 18:54:56 PM
Thanks for the text Paul.  By the time I had got to Holly Hill it would have just about been starting to rain so never mind.

Also got 3 texts from Crazyfrog, all about sorry Ellie and griping about someone?  I think maybe you're texting the wrong number, crazyfrog ...
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 10, 2009, 18:57:26 PM
ah yes they were the ones he meant to send me, he was griping about you being such a no show slacker Gary!!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on April 10, 2009, 19:04:28 PM
Is that one of those rare spotted Pauls i see in that tree  ;D
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 10, 2009, 19:07:54 PM
clearly identifiable by the huge beak and greying head plumage
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on April 10, 2009, 19:29:55 PM
I was so impressed by the pic of Paul the Arboreal Stargazer Saver that I photoshopped it ...
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 10, 2009, 19:35:32 PM
I was so impressed by the pic of Paul the Arboreal Stargazer Saver that I photoshopped it ...

 ;D  superb Gary, if felt at least that high when I was up there  ;D
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: tp2fly on April 10, 2009, 23:54:19 PM
Hello guys! Just joined this forum so saying hi.  My names Trevor and I normally fly at Castle Hill (Thurnham) with a red Zagi but also have a Windrider Fox now.
 You may already know but the Model World crew are arranging a fly down the coast this Easter Sunday , will be somewhere round the Eastbourne/Brighton area depending on the wind, so if your up for it, we will be meeting in the Nott Cutts/Model World car park J7 M20 at approx 8:30.
 Bye for now!   :)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on April 11, 2009, 07:39:42 AM
Sounds good ... except the weather may be sulking tomorrow. 

I was hoping for a good day on Monday but I see the forecast has changed to low winds on Monday too.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 11, 2009, 08:14:59 AM
Sunday should be good for Firle Trevor

It's all gone a bit pants for Monday, still it could all yet change
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: tp2fly on April 12, 2009, 09:55:04 AM
Oh bugger!  The wind has disappeared today (sunday)  so trip to coast called off  :(
 Dont even think my Fox will fly in a 2 mph wind! Oh well, will have to wait for a windier day, must eat more beans!  ;D
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 12, 2009, 10:04:01 AM
tomorrow is looking more promising for more local spots
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: tp2fly on April 12, 2009, 10:11:27 AM
Hope so Paul, by the way I checked out the slopes at Minster yesterday, have you ever flown there?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 12, 2009, 10:37:46 AM
Yes I used to fly Minster a fair bit, but Beltinge/Bishopstone is closer to where I'm living at the moment, so I tend to head that way if things are looking northerly.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: tp2fly on April 12, 2009, 10:57:12 AM
Im only ten minutes from Minster. Is it any good? There is a shallower grassy area at the end of Imperial Avenue and the steeper rockier cliffs to the right, where abouts did you fly from? 
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 12, 2009, 11:44:36 AM
launch and land from the grassy area, the lift is better over the cliffs but there's a bad rotor at the back so don't try landing there, things are kinder where the field slopes down from the cliffs before rising again back toward Imperial Drive
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: tp2fly on April 12, 2009, 11:47:16 AM
Great, cheers Paul!  :)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 12, 2009, 11:48:39 AM
oh, and keep your eyes peeled for dog poo!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: tp2fly on April 12, 2009, 11:50:36 AM
Nice!  :-\
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on April 12, 2009, 14:52:38 PM
Your fox should go quite well at Minster.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: tp2fly on April 12, 2009, 16:24:35 PM
Just been to Minster, not a breath of air! Zero to one at best!
Did some test glides of a chuck glider I made to test c of g of bigger r/c one im thinking of designing/building--------a Concorde!
 Test went really well, threw it at the top of the slope and it nearly reached the sea! I need the excercise!  ;D
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: peterbruce2002 on April 12, 2009, 19:48:33 PM
Hi All.
New to this forum so felt it best to introduce myself - names Peter and live at Eastchurch and belong to the local Barton Point club. Fly scale heli's and also couple of IC planes...
Started on the slope because I got fed up with seeing Gulls flying along the cliffs when I could not so decided to join the devils and got a foam wing for Xmas - built and flew it on the Minster Cliffs Boxing day.
Prev post - Trevor I think - Minster cliffs are great in N or NNE and you can launch from the grass area and fly along walking as you wish the full length of the slope.
Landing - as Paul says is better in the dip.
I found out the hard way and became firm friends with quite a few residence as my wing landed in a few gardens before I started to get the hang of landing it...
Fly up on the cliffs and with a 15 to 20mph the lift band goes out a long way - great.

Since flying the cliff sites I have even taken my wing for a dip in the sea - and its still flying.

2nd wing was a Wildthing and then a little Balsa floater then a 2.5Mtr Ventus which scard the hell out of me when I test flew it.

I think that's enough for now but glad to be on board and look forward to seeing some of you on the hill as this side of the sport is most interesting.

Regards
Peter
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: tp2fly on April 12, 2009, 19:54:33 PM
Hello Pete its me , Trev from your club! Thanks for the advice and welcome to this forum, only just joined myself!
 I love sloping, normally at Thurnham but thought id try Minster when the wind blows northerly.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 12, 2009, 20:49:20 PM
Well as anticipated it's been a poor show as far as the wind goes today. With this in mind, last night I sketched a design for an 3m electric soarer that I'm going to be needing shortly, due to impending change in personal circumstances.

This morning I was up at 7.30 like a man possessed, 13 hours later I can safely say I've never had such a productive day of balsa chopping (it's amazing what middle age and the realisation of ones own mortality can do to self motivation). The basis of the fuz is done and the foam cores are cut. I did bomb down the local model shop to get some balsa to skin the wings but it was bl**dy shut!! (this isn't as mad as is sounds, the shop part of a garden centre).

The model is 3m span, Ritz 2-10-30 section. Design wise I'm aiming for Multi-phase meets ASW17, but it'll be a bit 'boxy' as I just want to get-er-done as quickly as possible.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: tp2fly on April 12, 2009, 21:20:49 PM
Wow Paul thats incredible! From design to that in only thirteen hours! Im impressed! Nice design too.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 12, 2009, 21:23:05 PM
Thanks Trevor

Still a lot to do, but if I can stick with the mantra of keeping it simple I hope to have it wrapped up pretty quick.

Any fotos of Concorde?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on April 12, 2009, 21:26:29 PM
Requiring an electric glider due to an impending change in personal circumstances?  This must mean you're moving to Lincolnshire?!

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: tp2fly on April 12, 2009, 21:27:29 PM
You should consider selling kits and/or plans. Ive been thinking of designing/making my own kits. No pics of Concorde, just a quick chuckie I made to test cg
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on April 12, 2009, 21:35:06 PM
last night I sketched a design for an 3m electric soarer that I'm going to be needing shortly, due to impending change in personal circumstances...


What's this - a move to Norfolk?  Even Norfolk has slopes (well up near the north coast anyway)

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on April 12, 2009, 21:39:04 PM
This is the last one I built.......the picture was Combat over Thurnham
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 12, 2009, 21:41:35 PM
Surfice to say I'll be staying local it's just that my slope time is going to be at a bit of a premium, I'm not saying anymore just incase I jinx things!

Simon did you get out to the cliffs today? looked like there was a bit of a breeze
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 12, 2009, 21:44:04 PM
You should consider selling kits and/or plans.

I've heard the hourly rate is somewhat lacking unless you can hit on something new. I suppose the last break through was EPP combat wings.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on April 12, 2009, 21:45:32 PM
No I was on the flat field at Cliffe, nr Gravesend.  I don't think the weather was as good down there, so mostly power flying.  Too little wind this holiday!  Good luck with whatever you have brewing up!

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: tp2fly on April 12, 2009, 21:48:41 PM
I've heard the hourly rate is somewhat lacking unless you can hit on something new. I suppose the last break through was EPP combat wings.
Mr Zagi was on to a good thing!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 12, 2009, 21:52:13 PM
Good luck with whatever you have brewing up!

Simon

Thanks Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 12, 2009, 21:54:29 PM
Mr Zagi was on to a good thing!

Indeed, and the guy form Seattle that developed the DLG should have whacked a patent on it! I suppose that goes against the whole ethos of the pastime though.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on April 12, 2009, 22:19:03 PM
This is my newest edition, it's not covered very well but I'm not expecting it to last very long being made of 3mm and 6mm Depron, and covered in Staples A3 Laminating Film, all up weight is 445g, if it dies quickly, at least I can eat it!!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Phil.Taylor on April 12, 2009, 22:35:36 PM
last night I sketched a design for an 3m electric soarer that I'm going to be needing shortly,
er - Paul - that's got a TAIL ?
Phil
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: tp2fly on April 12, 2009, 22:37:21 PM
Thats cool N S E W . I like to see people designing and building their own creations.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on April 12, 2009, 22:41:09 PM
Thats cool N S E W . I like to see people designing and building their own creations.


I WISH!!.....I am not clever enough to design any thing, these guys in Cornwall did that.

New fish on the block.... - RC Groups (http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=885150&highlight=swinger)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: peterbruce2002 on April 13, 2009, 00:01:50 AM
Crumbs - a model from scratch taking shape in 13 hours...
How do you learn to do that nowdays I wonder - reading books will not cut it.
I have tried tapping the older members in our club for info but it does not come easy which perhaps is why ARTF kits are mostly the norm now - shame as when they pile in the skill to repair them is missing (with me).
I can remember from my long (long long even longer) past youth something like the Aeromodeler plans service but you must have the knowledge in the first place so you can build them...

Not wishing to take up too much time but I wonder Paul is there some kind of "instinct" you have to do this from scratch or does "if it looks right it will be right" play any part...

Peter
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 13, 2009, 08:15:52 AM
er - Paul - that's got a TAIL ?
Phil

very good Phil ;D

I was waiting for that one! I'm thinking I may do a bit of x-country with it, and that requires a model you can see when it's 'up there'. Flying wings are very good at disappearing due to lack of fuz and tailplane :o

Have you flown anything with the Ritz sections? I've heard the original Alpina sported the same section I'm got here. I've not used them before, but I know a guy who did extensively on his OD models, and they all performed well.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 13, 2009, 08:29:25 AM

How do you learn to do that nowdays I wonder

Not wishing to take up too much time but I wonder Paul is there some kind of "instinct" you have to do this from scratch or does "if it looks right it will be right" play any part...

Peter

I've always messed about with making stuff, had a lot of projects that fall by the wayside but I always learn something new with each model I have a go at. I've always got ideas boiling away that I'm itching to have a go at, I not sure I'll ever fully scratch the itch though.

I think if you're building a conventional layout, so long as it's straight and true, and structurally sound then 'that looks about right' works fine. Most models are built in the same manner, so just get a set of plans to copy the construction methods and change the outline or shape to please your eye.

If you're building stuff to fly off the slope it doesn't even have to be that efficient, the slope lift will mask a multitude of sins!

I don't draw up any plans, I just do a sketch (usually at about 1:10 scale) like the one I posted above, then print it off at full size, cut it out and use that as a template.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: peterbruce2002 on April 13, 2009, 10:14:37 AM
Hi Paul.
Thanks for the info. After messing about with heli's where the plans / diagrammes are first class and then going over to planes I found the plans / instructions dismal to say the least.
Fuzzy photo copy instructions pictures in BW you cant see and all crammed onto an A4 sheet - they assume the builder has previous knowledge of construction. I made the old Weston Cougar before the instructions were updated due to a criticism in a magazine - and boy did they need it (with me).
I think a lot of the bad instructions come from the fact that the Chinese are fantastic at making the ARTF kits but English instructions are another matter.
My Ventus was a typical example - made you laugh before you started the build.
I am like all who enter the sport now I will have to gather the "knowledge" as I go.
Picture attached of my Ventus - converted to electric in case I get in trouble.
True "maiden flight" yet to come at Detling.

Look forward to seeing you model on the slope.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 13, 2009, 10:25:31 AM
Peter

I can imagine there being quite a gap between heli and fixed wing builds, I'd be happy to do a build thread with my next one if that's any use to you.

What's the electric setup in the Ventus?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 13, 2009, 10:26:36 AM

Look forward to seeing you model on the slope.


female swim wear is my speciality
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: peterbruce2002 on April 13, 2009, 10:48:51 AM
Ref Ventus.
Brushless motor and 35A controller out of old crashed Edge plane (Electric Flight I believe).
I did have quick flight at the field - the dam thing flew so fast I never got a chance to even trim it as it flew faster than any of my IC planes - slips through the air like the wings are coated in Teflon - gave me quite a shock it did.
Managed to do some damage on landing (now repaired) as I deployed the air brakes at about 6 foot off the deck - full up (Chinese instructions gave no clue) the glider seemed to hit a brick, fell out of the sky horizontally, collapsed my lovely bomb door opening folding glider wheel  and turned the wheel frames into little bits. The wheel is now fixed but stays down.
A few other small pictures are attached for info.

Ref the build link I am already following a few - its the questions they raise that's not so easy. One side is the covering and I am trying to "see it done" and have the feelers out at our club.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Phil.Taylor on April 13, 2009, 15:27:20 PM
Have you flown anything with the Ritz sections? I've heard the original Alpina sported the same section I'm got here.

IIRC my Kulbutin has a Ritz airfoil - not a big recommndation though!
If you're thinking Alpina - why not go later model Alpina with HQW airfoil?
HQ website link --> Profilsammlung (http://www.hq-modellflug.de/koordinatenframe.htm)
all in German, but you'll figure it out!
The HQW foils are designed for flaps - all seem to go well, the Falcon is(was?) HQW 1.5/8 - pretty thin - the Alpina is thicker, maybe HQW 3/10? (= camber/thickness)
Phil
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 13, 2009, 16:44:24 PM
I did look at the HQW sections, but they go pretty thin at the trailing edge with a bit of an undercusp. I could foresee it being a bit tricky to get right, so just went for the Ritz as it's a lot chunkier at the back end, I can stomach a few percent extra drag on the basis I'll get it done a lot quicker.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on April 13, 2009, 18:04:18 PM
On the spur of the moment I flew at Colley Hill this afternoon with my lightweight foamy Telink Multifun.  The wind was only 4mph, but the Multifun was good...er...fun.  I might get into this 'cruising around sniffing out lift' lark. 

No one else was there except one guy who turned up at the end, watched the Multifun going well, and optimistically threw up his SAS Wildthing.  Huh - no chance!  That thing flopped to the ground like a caught fish onto a trawler deck.





Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on April 13, 2009, 18:08:55 PM
you should give the lighter days more of a go Gary, they can be just as satisfying. Once you have the height you can still do all the hooligan stuff on the way down !
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on April 13, 2009, 19:20:01 PM
I'm getting into the delicate stuff as well, honest ... I'm building a Blaster 2 DLG at the moment, it doesn't come much more delicate than that.

Paul, the typical sort of glider powertrain you might consider would be something like a 3S 2200 lipo (eg Loong Max 2250 25-35C, £22.16 from giantcod) a 40A speed controller (eg HobbyWing 40A Pentium speed controller, £21.67 from giantcod) and a brushless motor narrow enough to fit in your glider nose and with quite a low kv (all sorts of possibilities - if you want to spend, a beauty is a MVVS 3.5/960, £59.99 from puffinmodels - or something cheap from giantcod will work well but won't sound quite as quiet and smooth.)  Or you could go lighter if you're not interested in speed.  Or you could go heavier if you want a real hotliner - but this recommended setup is already powerful.

Those cheap lipos and Hobbywing speed controllers from giantcod are totally top quality despite the price, the switching BEC in the speed controller is superb and can power six servos no problem, unlike many speed controllers.  I like a really quiet smooth motor, which is why I buy something more expensive like MVVS.  (Although for that EPP flying eagle you saw, I just used a £15 giantcod motor, and it was fine.)  If you prefer to buy a top-end lipo and speed controller, I suggest a Jeti Spin controller from puffin (it needs to be a Spin to match the performance of the HobbyWing, but it's something like 4 times the price) and a Thunder Power ProLite 2 lipo (which is a fraction lighter than a Loong Max lipo but not better in any other way, despite costing twice the price).

Sorry if I'm teaching you to suck eggs, I just wasn't sure whether you were up on nasty powered stuff ...
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 13, 2009, 19:40:53 PM
That's helpful stuff Gary, I've got a couple of 3 cell 2450mah lipos, a 30amp controller and a 950kv outrunner (happy at 16amps) kicking about that I've yet to use.

I'm guessing the motor won't be up to the job? this new fangled get-up is a bit beyond me, just give me back my Speed 600 and Tamiya 7 cell hump pack!

I don't want any more than a positive 30deg climb out. I'm guessing the AUW weight will be somewhere around 35oz, but this could creep up to 40ish as I fear it may be tail heavy.

Any further advice warmly welcomed.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on April 13, 2009, 19:52:01 PM
Actually that would probably be enough if your plane really ends up being only 1.1kg or so.  It's surprising how little you need with a low-drag glider.  I'm usually using mine at half throttle, which is actually less than half the max amps, probably around 15A.  My guess is that yours would do 30 degrees, just not 60 degrees.  Also, a 16A motor can withstand brief bursts at say 20A.  I suggest if you have a meter, fit what you've got with say a 12 x 6 or 14 x 7 Graupner cam folding prop or similar, measure it, and if it maxes at about 20A static, that will be about 18A max in the air, which would be good.

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on April 13, 2009, 19:54:49 PM
you are welcome to borrow my watt meter which is pretty invaluable to show the effect of trying different prop diameters and pitches. You don't want to cook the motor, speed control or battery. If it's a full house 6 servo glider you may want to consider a seperate motor battery and rx/servo batt pack.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 13, 2009, 20:01:02 PM
Good news all round then!

Gary those numbers sound good, if I can keep a handle on the weight it should be a go-er. I used spruce longerons right the way back to the fin, I might strip these out as I think they're adding a hell of a lot of weight back there.

Deryck, yes I was going to chuck in a seperate battery for the receiver, like I said I think I'll need the nose weight. If it all ends up a bit too pedestrian I'll cough up for a beafier motor, afterall they're pretty cheap these days! Cheers for the watt meter offer, that'll be handy. maybe we can run it on the hill when it's done.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on April 13, 2009, 20:08:29 PM
I would recommend using the Deans connectors for the heavy current side of things. A lot of the cheap far eastern batts and speed controllers have these fitted as standard. Minimise the soldering, that's what I say !
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 13, 2009, 20:13:41 PM
I like the sound of that, gone are the days of dicking about with those MASSIVE Tamiya plugs.

Right, spars are glued in with 5 min epoxy, I'm hoping to get one wing skinned and pressed tonight. I haven't gone overboard on the spars, I'm hoping to get a little bit of flex round a loop. If they're too bendy bendy once they're skinned, I'll have to finish them in light weight glass cloth but would rather not from a work and weight point of view.

Right, time to crank up the lean mean grilling machine and open a bottle of wine while the epoxy goes off properly.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on April 14, 2009, 09:23:06 AM
Paul I have this motor esc combo, new in packets, they are no use to me, if you want the combo they are yours for £12.

Paul will have first shout, if he doesn't want them, then any one who can collect from Thurnham is more than welcome.

It does come with mount, spinner etc. and are reported to be very good.

I am having a problem copy pasting the link to the items?


 (http://www.brchobbies.co.uk/?page=shop&action=additem&item=61)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on April 14, 2009, 09:43:49 AM
All I'm Saying is OMG gust of 40mph at beachy head on monday (how wrong was the forgast!!)

you dont get high winds on a south very often

GIANT LIFT AND SO SMOOOOOOOTH

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on April 14, 2009, 09:50:13 AM
I have only experienced that super smooth mega lift at 2 sites: one is at Beachy, the other was St. Agnes in Cornwall. Nothing like it for aeros and high energy stuff....
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Ollie B on April 14, 2009, 09:51:39 AM
After arriving at Thurnham yesterday only to find the wind was infact comming from behind the slope we decided to make our way over to Minster.  There was hardly any wind and it was not quite square on the slope but we had a really enjoyable time just flying floaters which would just about stay up.  Although it sounds as though we should have been at Beachy Head, 40mph :o.  
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on April 14, 2009, 09:52:09 AM
Hello all. Just joined the forum. think i know most of you. im the one with the wildthing and the pony tail, usually found lurking at thurnham.

so ner!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 14, 2009, 09:54:41 AM
Paul I have this motor esc combo, new in packets, they are no use to me, if you want the combo they are yours for £12.

Paul will have first shout, if he doesn't want them, then any one who can collect from Thurnham is more than welcome.

It does come with mount, spinner etc. and are reported to be very good.

I am having a problem copy pasting the link to the items?


 ([url]http://www.brchobbies.co.uk/?page=shop&action=additem&item=61[/url])



Rob

thanks for the offer but I'm going to err on the side of caution until I know for sure what the AUW is, so if there's any other takers then get stuck in there!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 14, 2009, 09:57:58 AM
After arriving at Thurnham yesterday only to find the wind was infact comming from behind the slope we decided to make our way over to Minster.  There was hardly any wind and it was not quite square on the slope but we had a really enjoyable time just flying floaters which would just about stay up.  Although it sounds as though we should have been at Beachy Head, 40mph :o.  

well it's good to hear someone got some flying time in
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on April 14, 2009, 10:04:38 AM
i'll giva ya a quid for em Rob! :nananana:
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Ollie B on April 14, 2009, 10:10:18 AM
well it's good to hear someone got some flying time in

I didn't end up in any trees this time either ;D

Ollie
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on April 14, 2009, 10:11:57 AM
i take it you got your Zagi back the other day at Holly hill ollie? did the giant stick come in handy again? :af
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Ollie B on April 14, 2009, 10:27:17 AM
Yep, got the Zaggi back, it was a lot easier than the Stargazer :embarassed:.  I think the big stick may be an essential piece of kit, every slope soar er should have one.

Ollie
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 14, 2009, 11:23:04 AM
I keep meaning to get some conduit from B&Q and make up a collapsable rod, I also hear that roch poles are good for the job
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on April 14, 2009, 12:27:26 PM
Hello all. Just joined the forum. think i know most of you. im the one with the wildthing and the pony tail, usually found lurking at thurnham.

so ner!

Welcome  :af

I was the one on Friday with the blue and white Toplight.

Deryck
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on April 14, 2009, 21:44:56 PM
Thursday is East 14mph, can someone tell me if it would be best at Holly Hill, Minster or neither.....Cheers Rob
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on April 14, 2009, 21:54:21 PM
East is a tricky one for Kent, if you know of any good ones let us know !

Don't think Holly Hill or Minster will work in that direction, I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on April 14, 2009, 21:59:52 PM
East is a tricky one for Kent, if you know of any good ones let us know !

Don't think Holly Hill or Minster will work in that direction, I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

Thats a shame, 14mph of wind and no where to fly localy :'(
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 14, 2009, 22:15:49 PM
Warden Point?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on April 14, 2009, 23:05:25 PM
Botany Bay, near Margate - takes a NE.  Chalk cliffs, about 50' highm smooth lift and very fast if you fly in the compression zone, with 100 yards of grass for landing behind.  walk about 150 yards north from the little parking area.

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on April 14, 2009, 23:18:59 PM
This is looking west, so should work fine in easterly I would imagine.

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCC&cp=sjyf30h3kj9h&style=b&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&scene=7602051&encType=1

One for the summer eh, Paul. Take your bathing costume  :D
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Phil.Taylor on April 14, 2009, 23:26:10 PM
I didn't end up in any trees this time either ;D
Ollie
Hey Ollie - cool avatar - you seen that thing flyin?
would make a cool skeem for a Hunter PSS
Phil
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on April 14, 2009, 23:29:58 PM
Thats it derek - fly a little further north (right in the photo) to get the full benefit of 40 -50'!

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on April 14, 2009, 23:34:39 PM
View north, looks very inviting.

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCC&cp=sjyd97h3kk3z&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&scene=7602243&encType=1
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on April 14, 2009, 23:38:15 PM
This shows Botany bay from another angle.  The car park is top left, and I normally fly in the slight bowl bottom right

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCC&cp=sjyf30h3kj9h&style=b&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&scene=7602051&encType=1 (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCC&cp=sjyf30h3kj9h&style=b&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&scene=7602051&encType=1)

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Ollie B on April 15, 2009, 09:38:13 AM
Hey Ollie - cool avatar - you seen that thing flyin?
would make a cool skeem for a Hunter PSS
Phil

No I've never seen it flying but saw the photo and had to use it, your right though it would make a pretty cool colour scheme for a PSS Hunter :co, maybe someday.  I'll have to make an effort to see the full size one fly some time.

Ollie
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Hairyflier on April 15, 2009, 10:01:17 AM
This one belongs to Ted Cooke and is a stunner - sadly he doesn't fly it very often though.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Phil.Taylor on April 15, 2009, 10:11:33 AM
I've seen the real one when I worked up at Cranfield - heard a big noise - it did a fast low pass, then banked up to show off the colours - stunning.
Phil
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on April 15, 2009, 11:08:35 AM
NSEW, let us know how you get on if you do manage to fly at an easterly site. Cheers.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on April 15, 2009, 11:52:04 AM
Thanks for the suggestion's, John, Simon and me are of to try Minster first, if its no good we will try Warden Bay which I think will be good, it would be too much hassle today to try and go towards the coast with operation stack on.....everyone will be on the M2, and the M20 is a car park.

If any one else is going to Minster or Warden, we will be there at 1.30.....It would be great for another BBQ Paul :af
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 15, 2009, 11:55:56 AM

If any one else is going to Minster or Warden, we will be there at 1.30.....It would be great for another BBQ Paul :af

I'd love to, but I'm afraid some of us having got to help get this country out of the stinking economic cess pit it finds itself in, and get some work done  :(
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on April 15, 2009, 15:46:53 PM
Let me guess..... You ended up at Warden point, right ? Any good..... ?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on April 15, 2009, 17:29:40 PM
Yep Warden point it was, the lift was fantastic and we had a very good time.

Wildthings were like dots on the sky.

Now the DOWNSIDE.......LANDING......its about the size of 4 cars and at the back of it is lots of brambles.

Yep there was quite a few going in the brambles, the worst one was a Middle Phase which just did not want to land, after about 16 goes he stuffed it in the bushes.......it took over 1/2 hour to get it out.....thanks to John (Stephen Seagal) look alike, but there were 5 of us flying Zaggies and Wildthings, it would be impossible to land the proper jobs, having said that the young lad with his mum could land on a sixpence.

Would I go back with a Wildthing...........Yep
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on April 15, 2009, 20:44:38 PM
Had been checking the weather today, was meant to be the last of the blow for a bit.
Evening at butts was planned, got home 5.30 and walked the dog, nice strong easterly, got back and wife had homemade chicken pie on the table, time was going quick.
Finished dinner and grabbed the plank with the thought that the less mucking around with the plane would mean more flying time.
Drove to Butts like a man possessed, got to the bowl
NO WIND!! not a sausage
might have gusted to 4mph at times
stayed for an hour till the sun went down
with that usual problem of, as soon as you put the aerial down, turn off the TX and think about going, the wind gusts just for a second.
 ::)
slope soaring who came up with this frustrating hobby  ;D
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on April 15, 2009, 20:49:53 PM
Yes it can be an extremely frustrating hobby at times. At least you've got great slopes nearby though !
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on April 15, 2009, 20:51:20 PM
In that last hour before dusk I often find the wind dies off, just an observation.
Title: Deryck was right
Post by: GP on April 15, 2009, 20:52:46 PM
Beachy Head this evening - U N B E L I E V A B L E .  When Deryck said Beachy was the best lift he'd ever experienced I thought he was maybe exaggerating a bit.  Now I realise he wasn't saying the half of it.

Mega, mega lift, totally buttery smooth, absolutely zero turbulence anywhere.  The Erwin and Jart sang like I never thought they'd be able to.

I'm a bit shocked, to be honest, it sort of blew my mind a bit ... I need a nice little lie down with an ice pack on the head ...





  
Title: Re: Deryck was right
Post by: Allen the soarer on April 15, 2009, 21:01:18 PM
Beachy Head this evening - U N B E L I E V A B L E .  When Deryck said Beachy was the best lift he'd ever experienced I thought he was maybe exaggerating a bit.  Now I realise he wasn't saying the half of it.

Mega, mega lift, totally buttery smooth, absolutely zero turbulence anywhere.  The Erwin and Jart sang like I never thought they'd be able to.

I'm a bit shocked, to be honest, it sort of blew my mind a bit ... I need a nice little lie down with an ice pack on the head ...

  

Now i feel like crying!!

Tell me you were there early eve and not from seven to eight ?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on April 15, 2009, 21:12:13 PM
I was there from 5-7pm. 

5-6pm was smooth but only 10mph.

6-7pm was 20mph and unbelievable.  The LGRA guys left at 6!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 15, 2009, 21:22:14 PM
fotos?

how was H's arm?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on April 15, 2009, 21:33:10 PM
Last time I flew at warden Point, many years ago you could walk through to land on the grass at the back of the putting green - not sure if it is still there.  I went there last year, and it was very overgrown where the cliff path is (would be difficult to carry a model through the bushes) but the grass was still there.  So you may just need to beat your way through, and fly about 100yards east of where you flew.

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on April 15, 2009, 22:03:44 PM
Last time I flew at warden Point, many years ago you could walk through to land on the grass at the back of the putting green - not sure if it is still there.  I went there last year, and it was very overgrown where the cliff path is (would be difficult to carry a model through the bushes) but the grass was still there.  So you may just need to beat your way through, and fly about 100yards east of where you flew.

Simon

Thanks for the advise Simon, but 100 yards East and I would need Flippers LOL!

I don't know where you mean, there was a couple of the local Barton Point guys there, SO I thought that if there was some where better they would have been flying there, unless they were keeping it a secret.

I will have a good walk (NORTH) next time I am there.

I did quite like it there, but Beachy Head sounded much better, Oh well, as grandma said "Make Do And Mend"
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on April 15, 2009, 22:08:35 PM
OK, South East

Simon (also a pedant!)  ;)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on April 15, 2009, 22:30:19 PM
NSEW,

have a look at:

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCC&cp=sjyf30h3kj9h&style=b&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&scene=7602051&encType=1#JndoZXJlMT13YXJkZW4rcG9pbnQmYmI9NTEuMzg5ODMxMzYwNzEzNiU3ZTEuNDM0Mzg2NDM0MzA2MjglN2U1MS4zODkzMTQ4MDMwNzk2JTdlMS40MzM0MzU1NDE2MjU1Mg==

The field is the one between warden road and the caravans nearer the bottom of the photo

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on April 15, 2009, 22:33:50 PM
OK, South East

Simon (also a pedant!)  ;)

I think we are talking about diff. spots, were we where is just above the car park, past the warden bay pub.

I turned left to warden bay just before leysdown, over the speed bumps, past the pub on left, sea on right, start rising to the small car park at the bottom of the cliff, then continue up the unmade road for a 100 yards or so, and that is were the locals were flying from, it would be great if there is a better spot.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on April 15, 2009, 22:36:37 PM
NSEW,

have a look at:

[url]http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCC&cp=sjyf30h3kj9h&style=b&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&scene=7602051&encType=1#JndoZXJlMT13YXJkZW4rcG9pbnQmYmI9NTEuMzg5ODMxMzYwNzEzNiU3ZTEuNDM0Mzg2NDM0MzA2MjglN2U1MS4zODkzMTQ4MDMwNzk2JTdlMS40MzM0MzU1NDE2MjU1Mg==[/url]

The field is the one between warden road and the caravans nearer the bottom of the photo

Simon


Thanks Simon

I was posting when you was.

We where on your map BY THE D in the ENGLAND
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on April 15, 2009, 22:37:05 PM
Ah, well the link is the only spot I have ever flown at, but that was mostly quite a few years ago.  Have a look, you might find it a better spot

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on April 15, 2009, 22:40:27 PM
fotos? how was H's arm?
H wasn't there, he's still in plaster apparently (fell off cliff - just joking, fell off bike).  No photos except some boring grounded ones I took when I was the only one there.

[BTW, how big a loop do you think a plane can do?  The Jart was doing 500 ft loops, probably bigger - and not wobbly topped ones, proper circular ones ... I had no idea planes could do that ... ]
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 16, 2009, 08:08:49 AM
blimey, look at all the cowslip!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on April 16, 2009, 08:35:11 AM
Were you flying in an easterly or SE then Gary  ?
I love good coastal sites, the slope lift can be superb when right. Maybe suggest to the wife a holiday in Cornwall would be a good idea this year.......
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on April 16, 2009, 08:39:50 AM
It was definitely SE.  It was a funny day yesterday, the wind seemed to be blowing in different directions in different places - and windy in some places, windstill in others.  Look at how Beachy had great conditions at the same time as nearby Butts had nothing.

By the way Paul, what was your opinion of High and Over?  I remember you flew there once but I'm not sure what conditions you flew in, or whether you used the slope on the right or left of the carpark.  I flew the Erwin there recently and there was a lot of lift but it was extremely turbulent.  I couldn't decide whether it was a good site or not.


Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on April 16, 2009, 09:07:09 AM
Paul and I flew there once from the ridge to the south of the car park. Conditions were poor, marginal lift as the wind was off slope so can't really say whether it's a good site or not. Very steep !
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 16, 2009, 09:41:53 AM
wot Deryck said!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on April 16, 2009, 14:06:46 PM
Anyone heading down my way on saturday
weather stations cant decide if its raining or not yet metcheck says no bbc says yes ::)
wind looks ok could be a bopeep or a firle
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on April 16, 2009, 14:25:27 PM
Would love to join you but this weekend is a no-go for me :(
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 16, 2009, 14:30:59 PM
Allen would love an excuse to join you but I've promised my sister some DIY time and I think this weekend is going to be the slot.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on April 16, 2009, 14:34:16 PM
Gary?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: NickK on April 16, 2009, 18:34:08 PM
xc weather reckons not raining too  :af

I may be able to escape for a couple of hours in the morning   :''
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on April 16, 2009, 21:04:44 PM
let me know what time Nick and i'll meet you there
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on April 16, 2009, 21:05:33 PM
went up longman this ever was a bit gental but was a lovely day
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Mark 250 on April 16, 2009, 22:42:22 PM
XC getting better for Saturday, showing 17 NE.should be 20+ on top. Butts or Bopeep? Hopefully to windy for the pillow cases.
Allen I'll text you sat morning,hopefully meet up.
Mark.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on April 16, 2009, 23:10:26 PM
I'm going to try to make it on Saturday, but I'm juggling a few commitments this weekend.  Will you post on Sat morning to say where you've decided to go?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on April 17, 2009, 09:41:04 AM
hello all. I have a question for anyone with a DX Ventus out there?
what servos do you reccomend to use?
Nice and simple huh?
cheers,
 $%&
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on April 17, 2009, 09:54:02 AM
What set up are you going for?
the full 7 ?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Leebert on April 17, 2009, 09:54:42 AM
I have a pass for Saturday :)
Been looking on Slopehunter at Firle and Bopeep. What's the one to go for guys for a bit of a newbie with a Widthing and an Aldij?
Thanks,
Lee
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on April 17, 2009, 09:58:28 AM
yes alan. thought id try the full lot to start with and reduce as i smash bits off lol.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on April 17, 2009, 10:01:02 AM
An Aldij!! What Colour I dont think i have ever seen two in the air at the same time

Do you have the P number of anyone coming
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on April 17, 2009, 10:03:14 AM
yes alan. thought id try the full lot to start with and reduce as i smash bits off lol.


Then i would say it's not so simple

Do youi want the best, the not bad or the will do the job servos

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Leebert on April 17, 2009, 10:03:51 AM
An Aldij!! What Colour I dont think i have ever seen two in the air at the same time

Do you have the P number of anyone coming

Same as the one in your avatar - red with white bits.
I don't have any phone no's at the moment. Just gonna turn up somewhere :)

Regards,
Lee
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on April 17, 2009, 10:06:21 AM
well. i dont have unlimited resources (who has eh?). but i dont want the thing falling out of the sky if ya know what i mean.
(although thinking about it, that will probably happen anyway ;D)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on April 17, 2009, 10:08:35 AM
Same as the one in your avatar - red with white bits.
Regards,
Lee

maybe we should not fly them at the same time then ;D

I have enough trouble working out which way round my Aldij is without having to worry if I am looking at the right one  ;D

I have black stripes under my wings from solar trimm which might help
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on April 17, 2009, 10:20:01 AM
I would expect Bopeep if i had to put money on it

Firle is best in a N NNW I just would not try to fly a NE here

Butts lane  is best in a  N NNE E  There is a devision that faces NE that splits the N and E bowl it make NE not great but usually fly able

Bopeep is best in NNE NE
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on April 17, 2009, 11:03:01 AM
hello all. I have a question for anyone with a DX Ventus out there?
what servos do you reccomend to use?
Nice and simple huh?
cheers,
 $%&

Buy another Wildthing John.......You know it makes sense :nananana:
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on April 17, 2009, 11:52:32 AM
3 of us are off to Minster Isle of Sheppy if anyone wants to join us, we park at the bottom of Imperial Avenue....walk 20 steps and fly.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on April 17, 2009, 12:16:47 PM
Leebert, you're right that Firle and Bopeep are both possible tomorrow (Saturday), but Bopeep will be the best I reckon.  Firle is great in N and perfectly flyable in NNE, but for NNE to NE to ENE Bopeep is the business.  I'm hoping to make it there, maybe 11am or so.

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on April 17, 2009, 12:36:10 PM
Leebert, you're right that Firle and Bopeep are both possible tomorrow (Saturday), but Bopeep will be the best I reckon.  Firle is great in N and perfectly flyable in NNE, but for NNE to NE to ENE Bopeep is the business.  I'm hoping to make it there, maybe 11am or so.



11 or so sounds good to me  :)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Leebert on April 17, 2009, 14:43:43 PM
Thanks for the advice  :)

11 ish at Bopeep it is then - see you there. I'll be the one with the red Aldij  ;)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on April 17, 2009, 14:50:29 PM
Are you sure your not me  :D
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Mark 250 on April 17, 2009, 15:39:30 PM
11 ish gentleman's hour's,how civilised  :uk: East or West slope? East is best but depends if the para gliders are there.
Mark.
who doesn't know east from west.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on April 17, 2009, 16:11:11 PM
11 ish gentleman's hour's,how civilised  :uk: East or West slope? West is best but depends if the para gliders are there.
Mark.
It should be too windy for the pillows but either the wind might not be as good or the pillows might be nuts you just never know
I never flow the slope to the east and although a bit more of a walk i hear its the better one, but if someones already flying the slope to the west and i cant be ar5ed to walk I might end up there  :af
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on April 17, 2009, 17:02:26 PM
The one to the east is the best one I think?  Last time we flew the west one, but only to get away from the paragliders.  The east one (ie walk a couple of hundred yards east from the carpark, ie don't cross the road) should be free of paragliders if the winds are as strong as predicted.

ie I'm suggesting we meet here, it's actually a shorter walk than crossing the road and going to the west one -

Streetmap - Homepage (http://www.streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?x=550164&y=104579&z=120&sv=550164,104579&st=4&ar=y&mapp=map.srf&searchp=ids.srf&dn=796&ax=550164&ay=104579&lm=0)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Leebert on April 17, 2009, 17:24:18 PM
Sounds good.
Is the car park a pay and display one? Just so I remember to bring a shed load of change :)

Thanks
Lee
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on April 17, 2009, 17:46:47 PM
Well just to cheer everyone up that didn't go flying today.....We did and we didn't.

XC Weather got it wrong for Minster, we got there at 1.30 the wind was smack on West, so we went along to the coastguard building Nr Warden point, still no good and with all the rain as well, a total waist of time, we hung around till 3.30 hoping the wind would swing around, but NO.

Oh well try again tomorrow!!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: NickK on April 17, 2009, 18:54:26 PM
Never been to Bopeep before so hope i can make it - 50:50 at the moment  ::)

I'll chuck the fusion in the back of the van and hope I can make a detour  :af
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on April 17, 2009, 19:17:56 PM
Free parking at Bopeep.  You have to pay at Butts Brow and Beachy Head, and soon at Devil's Dyke, but apart from that I think all the sites in the south downs region are free parking?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on April 17, 2009, 19:21:15 PM
When N S E W says "we did and we didn't". he was exactly right. because me and colin "did" and He "didn't".

Too chicken to chuck it off the cliff! Cluck, cluck, cluck!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on April 17, 2009, 20:19:20 PM
When N S E W says "we did and we didn't". he was exactly right. because me and colin "did" and He "didn't".

Too chicken to chuck it off the cliff! Cluck, cluck, cluck!

What you forgot to say is, you chucked it of the cliff for a 20 second very dodgy flight and a crash landing.

This old boy is much much wiser.........and don't cheek your elders........BOY :nananana:
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 17, 2009, 20:39:28 PM
11 or so sounds good to me  :)

Right then chasps, my weekend has been rescheduled so you'll have to put up with me at the Peep tomorrow as well, I'll probably rock up at about 10ish so I'll stake out a patch where I see fit.

Judging by the forecast I think the paragliders will be out in force as it's saying 10-14 which is just right for them. If no one is there when I turn up, I'll try and leave a message in the window of my motor (black Polo which amazingly has had a wash this year!) saying where I am.

Also I've got a little 'something' I've been fiddling with tonight that needs trying out, so I'll need a volunteer to hold for me while I fly at some point tomorrow.

Deryck, I'll do a few rolls in your honour!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on April 17, 2009, 20:50:07 PM

Deryck, I'll do a few rolls in your honour!

where's the 'green with envy, jealous monster' icon when you need one ?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 17, 2009, 20:52:31 PM
I won't be providing them with a BBQ Deryck if that's any consolation at all!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on April 17, 2009, 20:54:58 PM
Have fun chaps  :af

Try to avoid knocking each other out of the sky  ;)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on April 17, 2009, 20:59:44 PM
It'll be great to see you there.

I was hoping 10-14mph was too much for the blasted paragliders.  I really want to try the main east slope (the one the LGRA guys rate as their favourite slope in the entire southeast) rather than being forced onto the west slope again.  Mind you, that west one is a nice slope too.

I have to take the toddler twins out for breakfast to give my beloved a lie-in, then after I return them home I'll be getting down to Bopeep as soon as I can.

Deryck, the next time the wind's good for Beachy Head let's do it no matter what.






Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 17, 2009, 21:08:12 PM

Deryck, the next time the wind's good for Beachy Head let's do it no matter what.


Decree nisi pending....
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: PeteMillis on April 17, 2009, 22:02:03 PM
Just a quick intro....I'm a couple of miles inland from Rottingdean, just down here on the south coast. Interest in RC planes and gliders recently rekindled thanks to a mate of mine. Been poncing around with an F22 microflighter for a while and now about to put together my EHawk 1500. Would love to come along with my kids and watch all you experts flying, and try and pick up some hints and tips. Definitely not this weekend though as I have a PhD submission deadline on Monday  :banghead:
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: PeteMillis on April 17, 2009, 22:04:05 PM
Actually, if I don't make the deadline on Monday then maybe I'll meet you at Beachy Head!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Phil.Taylor on April 17, 2009, 23:25:21 PM
Actually, if I don't make the deadline on Monday then maybe I'll meet you at Beachy Head!
deffo do the deadline - then go find these guys  :co
Phil
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Mark 250 on April 18, 2009, 00:30:04 AM
Aeronaut. I'll be there bout the same time, blue civic may be clean if the misses is up in time  ::).
Pete.  Bopeep to-day, A27 towards Eastbourne into Selmeston past the wheatsheaf pub approximately 267.54 yards turn right. By a strange coincidence into Bopeep Lane.
Mark.   
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on April 18, 2009, 09:19:20 AM
Weather report:
Pevensey Bay
8-12 mph NE at sea level
over cast, 12 deg cent
09.18
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on April 18, 2009, 18:06:39 PM
Report for Minster Isle of Sheppy.

Wind NE gusting to 34mph but steady 20+mph almost right up the slope.

Around 15 people including the guys from Barton Point Model Club, we started on the cliffs, the lift on the cliffs is excellent but it got a bit dangerous with the turbulent landings and unfortunately Simon copped a Wildthing with lead on the front of it flat out right into the top of his leg, which floored him,  so we then decided to leave the cliff and fly the slope, and to be honest I prefer the slope as you can fly well bellow yourself right down near the footpath.

The famous Stargazer turned up with Ollie and family.

All in all, a good day out.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on April 18, 2009, 18:38:48 PM
15 + flyers at Minster ! .....never seen anything like that before. Paul, your theory on slope soaring popularity seems to be right.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on April 18, 2009, 18:55:49 PM
15 + flyers at Minster ! .....never seen anything like that before. Paul, your theory on slope soaring popularity seems to be right.

Takes me back to Holly Hill, the late 70s.   early 80s.  We had one September when the weather was sunny and warm, and the wind blew southerly all the time.  It really got a large group going, and was great fun.  People used to come from essex in those days (no M25 then :)) as they stil do Del.

The large number of models in the small area at the top of the hill did have its difficulties though.  One guy landed too high up the hill, making a spectator jump as he almost hit him.  Unfortunately the spectator jumped backwards and did a dance over several models - not good!

Still, I'm waiting to hear how Bopeep went today, I'm sure Paul will have a video on the blog later.  I spent a very good couple of hours at Botany bay.   Lift was good, and the Race M and Ceres were really moving if you kept in tight.

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on April 18, 2009, 19:20:47 PM
Wow, what a day for slope soaring. Bopeep also had lots of flyers - the busiest I've ever seen it.  Some amazing machinery.  Paul will have some excellent video when he gets round to editing down the 5 hours he filmed. 

Here's my favourite photo - believe it or not this was a genuine attempt at a launch - it looks like a limp drop but actually it was a hard throw and the plane is moving downwards very rapidly.  Lord knows I've done some bad throws in my time but I think my plane has always travelled at least a yard - this fine effort must be some sort of record for distance not achieved.  I won't embarrass the forumite by naming him.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on April 18, 2009, 19:26:00 PM
Good photo.  reminds me of someone I fly with trying to launch their zagi at whitesheet.  You know who you are :D

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on April 18, 2009, 19:36:57 PM
How it should be done ... could that plane be any more dead level?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on April 18, 2009, 19:44:16 PM
How is Paul getting on with the Cobra?

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on April 18, 2009, 20:31:29 PM
ThanKs Gary !

Dont you have any photos of me not looking a c*nt  ;D

Was great day though

and those planks are a bugger to launch  :embarassed:
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on April 18, 2009, 20:43:35 PM
Looks like you have just dropped a pint..............LOL
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on April 18, 2009, 21:08:20 PM
I love the way I'm still looking forward Like I had not noticed

Gary can you email it to me in true format
I must keep it  :af
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on April 18, 2009, 21:11:18 PM
ThanKs Gary !

Dont you have any photos of me not looking a c*nt  ;D

Was great day though

and those planks are a bu**er to launch  :embarassed:

Or could it be a BALLET move!!!!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Ollie B on April 18, 2009, 21:13:06 PM
That was a pretty good day at Minster (I didn't have any trouble with trees or bushes :'').  Plenty of combat, all the Wildthings ganged up on me again :'( but I'll be back :ev).  When everyone else had left Bradley and myself flew along to the cliffs (boy that lift was good), flew some aerobatics and did some fast runs along the slope.  I thought i would try a landing but I had defiantly underestimated the turbulence although the model was fine.  Just at that moment there was a shout from Bradley, he had crashed his Middle Phase into the cliff face, the model was eventually recovered however some of the veneer on the wing had delaminated.  Still, it'll fly again.  All in all a good time was had by all, so until the next battle...

Ollie    
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 18, 2009, 21:41:28 PM
How it should be done ... could that plane be any more dead level?

with a bit of left aileron, yes it could!

great foto Gary!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 18, 2009, 21:47:45 PM
How is Paul getting on with the Cobra?

Simon

Still dialing it in Simon, I've had a few short sessions with it either battling with paragliders or josstling for air space. I took a fair bit of lead out the nose today and it's starting to feel like it's coming alive, but I really need a few hours alone on the hill getting it dialled in. I will report back once I've had some more sustained flights with it.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 18, 2009, 21:50:46 PM
Takes me back to Holly Hill, the late 70s.   early 80s.  We had one September when the weather was sunny and warm, and the wind blew southerly all the time.  It really got a large group going, and was great fun.  People used to come from essex in those days (no M25 then :)) as they stil do Del.


I recall Tim Mc telling me about the pre 35 meg days, they'd swop the rx xtal with tx xtal to double the number of channels available (pre-splits IIRC)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 18, 2009, 21:59:49 PM


Still, I'm waiting to hear how Bopeep went today, I'm sure Paul will have a video on the blog later. 

It was heaving Simon, the locals were out in force. If a sky full of models wasn't enough, we also had to contend with hangliders, a class 2 rigid wing Swift, full size gliders and what looked like an ultra light glider.

Most of the locals were flying Pat Teakle scale stuff or similar, there were a few 2 and 3m mouldies and a host of foamies. One guy had a 5m Tangens sport model (8 servo wing?) high aspect ratio, lovely performer and very axial rolls.

I did shoot a fair bit of film, but not many fotos. I've got to get some artwork done tomorrow so won't get onto editing until early next week.

Thanks for the hot dogs Allen!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on April 18, 2009, 22:05:14 PM
The conditions were very good at Bopeep today, but you had to fly tentatively due to the number of planes in the sky.  No incidents though, so it was all good.  There were some amazing planes there.  Two big Minimoas.  Lots of other big stuff.  Some very fast mouldies.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on April 18, 2009, 22:07:55 PM
I take it it was too breezy for the 'pillows'?

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 18, 2009, 22:12:06 PM
this was about half of the spread
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 18, 2009, 22:13:25 PM
I take it it was too breezy for the 'pillows'?

Simon

yup, one guy gave it a go at about 5ish, but it didn't look like he was having fun, the hangliders were having a better time of it, but I saw two undershoot and plant themselves on the fence :o
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Spoons on April 19, 2009, 06:40:57 AM
Good photo.  reminds me of someone I fly with trying to launch their zagi at whitesheet.  You know who you are :D

Simon

No I dont launch that well ;)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on April 19, 2009, 07:04:32 AM
No I dont launch that well ;)

But I bet you wouldn't drop your pint!

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Leebert on April 19, 2009, 08:14:20 AM
The conditions were very good at Bopeep today, but you had to fly tentatively due to the number of planes in the sky.  No incidents though, so it was all good.  There were some amazing planes there.  Two big Minimoas.  Lots of other big stuff.  Some very fast mouldies.
Alas, there was  :( Newbie error of getting distracted and then trying to fly the wrong model resulted in my Aldij going home looking a little bit sorry for itself.
On the plus side, Bopeep was amazing and I will be back.
Thanks very much for the warm welcome and the hotdogs from Allen - very tasty they were too :)
Some of the photos from the day...
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 19, 2009, 12:38:23 PM
Paul, your theory on slope soaring popularity seems to be right.

Goodwind's third law states that-

'The health of the economy is inversely proportional to the popularity of slope soaring'
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on April 19, 2009, 12:57:37 PM
'inversely proportional' - haven't heard that for a while !
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on April 20, 2009, 14:31:00 PM
anyone try Minster today ? Deckchair weather !
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on April 20, 2009, 21:17:43 PM
anyone try Minster today ? Deckchair weather !

Where abouts do you guys park for Minster?

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 20, 2009, 22:10:31 PM
Where abouts do you guys park for Minster?

Simon

When I go I park at the end of Imperial Ave (I think it's Avenue) it's an unmade road, larger houses at the top, bungalows nearer the sea/river/slope
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on April 20, 2009, 22:21:57 PM
Thanks - I think thats where I parked about 20 years ago, last time I was there.  I wasn't sure if you had an alternative spot in the Warden direction nearer to the cliffs

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on April 21, 2009, 09:42:41 AM
Thanks - I think thats where I parked about 20 years ago, last time I was there.  I wasn't sure if you had an alternative spot in the Warden direction nearer to the cliffs

Simon

This is where I go and you park at the side of the flying site, it is great in E wind, lots of lift.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on April 21, 2009, 09:47:24 AM
anyone try Minster today ? Deckchair weather !

Alan from Dartford was there yesterday and he said he had a very good time, I had a good time decorating!!!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on April 21, 2009, 09:52:52 AM
When I go I park at the end of Imperial Ave (I think it's Avenue) it's an unmade road, larger houses at the top, bungalows nearer the sea/river/slope

The guy in the last bungalow on the left had a bit of a go at a few of us the other day about the parking.

I sort of know where he is coming from, so I now park at the car park at the end of Seathorpe Avenue, its a bit of a walk but it helps keep fit, I have heard that a couple of people have had problems with there car tyres parking in Imperial avenue.

On the plus side it can be fun flying from the car park to the cliff.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 21, 2009, 09:58:01 AM
The guy in the last bungalow on the left had a bit of a go at a few of us the other day about the parking.


thanks for the 'heads up' Rob
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 21, 2009, 16:02:38 PM
Saturday's action at Bopeep, mostly launches and landings as all the bigger stuff was way up there..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeL6Xr3CMGU
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on April 21, 2009, 16:14:36 PM
aaah, I see Jim and Barry were there too. Thought I recognised the all in one jump suit and Minimoa combo  ;D
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 21, 2009, 16:24:40 PM
They buggered off home at about 1ish, seems like they're only ever up for the morning shift! Shame really 'cos they're great company
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Spoons on April 21, 2009, 18:58:54 PM
Nice slope seems to have lots of smooth lift, but I am not sure I would want to fly with all those people and risk a mid air with a couple of K's worth of plastics !
Would like to try it on a quiet day though !
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 21, 2009, 19:02:42 PM
Nice slope seems to have lots of smooth lift, but I am not sure I would want to fly with all those people and risk a mid air with a couple of K's worth of plastics !
Would like to try it on a quiet day though !

Yes John, I don't think I'll be back there for a weekend fly in a hurry. Lift was superb and despite the busy skys there were no mid-airs...more luck than judgement me thinks!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Spoons on April 21, 2009, 19:07:12 PM
Yes John, I don't think I'll be back there for a weekend fly in a hurry. Lift was superb and despite the busy skys there were no mid-airs...more luck than judgement me thinks!

We had a stonking day at one of simons places fast zagi action and a few walks to the beach, rotor sorted the men from the boyz on landing, cos I did a gear set in the ascot wing.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 21, 2009, 19:12:57 PM
We had a stonking day at one of simons places fast zagi action and a few walks to the beach, rotor sorted the men from the boyz on landing, cos I did a gear set in the ascot wing.


I was going to ask what the rotor was like there, I guess that answers it!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on April 21, 2009, 19:28:00 PM
The rotor wasn't that bad - no more difficult than slopeside landings at holly in a strong wind, or the rotor at Beltinge, or indeed landings at the Bwlch

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Spoons on April 21, 2009, 19:41:12 PM
The rotor wasn't that bad - no more difficult than slopeside landings at holly in a strong wind, or the rotor at Beltinge, or indeed landings at the Bwlch

Simon

I guess it just seemed bad as it was the first time I've flown there ! $%&
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on April 21, 2009, 20:18:46 PM
Try the cliff top at Dover, 500', in a good blow to feel what a big rotor is like.  I did once - the lift was enormous and smooth, but the landing was vitually uncontrollable - really scary

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on April 23, 2009, 14:20:43 PM
A few of us are of to Holly hill Friday.....Should be 15mph S/SE according to XC Weather, any one else going.

You never know the BBQ man could turn up to feed us all, I know I am sick of painting indoors!!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 23, 2009, 15:16:03 PM
A few of us are of to Holly hill Friday.....Should be 15mph S/SE according to XC Weather, any one else going.

You never know the BBQ man could turn up to feed us all, I know I am sick of painting indoors!!

what sort of time were you thinking Rob?

I've got a few meetings tomorrow but may be able to get up there in the afternoon if I work late tonight
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on April 23, 2009, 15:56:56 PM
what sort of time were you thinking Rob?

I've got a few meetings tomorrow but may be able to get up there in the afternoon if I work late tonight

I have emailed Alan at Dartford, but John, Simon, Colin will be there at 1.30pm.

Colin is building me a Scratch built Alula....what a nice man, and its FOC :af
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 23, 2009, 16:13:29 PM
full of cr@p?

what's the purpose of that then, stinky bomb drops?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on April 23, 2009, 21:21:56 PM
Have a good time at Holly Hill, should be an excellent day for it.

I've taken the day off and I'm heading down to Beachy Head with the family.  The deal is a couple of hours sightseeing in Alfriston and then a couple of hours flying at Beachy.  Reckon I'll get to Beachy around 1pm or so.

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on April 23, 2009, 21:27:48 PM
I reckon I might be up Holly myself if I can get away from work mid afternoon.  Probably only Zagis and mini Ellipse, but I might get some heavy metal out if there is a quiet spot.  We need JPSage along really to help trample the bushes down (a serendipidous byproduct of retrieving a model from the bushes)

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 23, 2009, 21:40:59 PM
I'm sure Deryck will be thinking of you on your lovely outing Gary!

Not sure if I'll make it out to Holly, I'm snowed under at the moment  :(
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 23, 2009, 21:45:14 PM
I reckon I might be up Holly myself if I can get away from work mid afternoon. 

You're bunking off too Simon? now I'm really torn!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 23, 2009, 21:51:18 PM
Right, xc weather is saying NE for Sunday, so I can get some work done then and go out to play tomorrow afternoon instead.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on April 23, 2009, 21:52:40 PM
Theoretically we can finish at 13:00 on a Friday, providing you have done your hours.  For me that normally means I can finish before 17:00 rather than 19:00.  Tomorrow I'll try and get away early!

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on April 23, 2009, 21:53:23 PM
Right, xc weather is saying NE for Sunday, so I can get some work done then and go out to play tomorrow afternoon instead.


Or try Botany Bay on Sunday!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 23, 2009, 22:14:22 PM
Or try Botany Bay on Sunday!

could do, but I think I need a clear day working due to impending deadlines

tomorrow will be disrupted by meetings in the morning so makes sense to try and get out to Holly in the afternoon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on April 24, 2009, 09:46:25 AM
i could still do with servo suggestions for my Cmpro DX Ventus if anyone has any ideas. dont want to break the bank though. I probably will use all seven, but havent a clue which ones i should use where?
any takers?

p.s see ya all on holly this afternoon.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Leebert on April 24, 2009, 18:45:27 PM
So, where is the place to be this WE?

Torn between starting the Aldij repair or going sloping with the Wildthing.

Decisions, decisions...

Cheers,
Lee
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on April 24, 2009, 19:18:07 PM
It was Holly Hill this afternoon...  Actually, I think I probably have to apologise for the outrageous behaviour this afternoon, with loads of foam bumping into each other. :ev  But it was good to see quite a few people filling the hill there again.   It is many years since I last flew there.  Unfortunately I fear that Paul_W has captured my misbehaving, and even now is probably checking his video  :embarassed:

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 24, 2009, 19:20:38 PM
It has all been noted in my little black book

you may have to wait for the evidence though!

Paul W
(lamenting a lack of foam)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Spoons on April 24, 2009, 19:41:06 PM
A very interesting hill.
I haven't been up there in around 30 years since my dad used to fly there.
The fast paced close in stuff is funny for the people doing it, but I guess not for the spectators  :embarassed:!
Was still a good laugh though !

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 24, 2009, 19:55:55 PM
It was pretty entertaining John

I'm sure I could have flown from the 'lip' where the steeper drop starts, as most of your action seemed to be behind this line, but I really must get some foam!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on April 24, 2009, 20:11:51 PM
It was pretty entertaining John

I'm sure I could have flown from the 'lip' where the steeper drop starts, as most of your action seemed to be behind this line, but I really must get some foam!

Get a Wildthing Paul, then you can get your own back on Allan
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on April 24, 2009, 20:15:12 PM
All you could here from this group was laughter and the sound of foam crunching......it was good though
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on April 24, 2009, 20:55:08 PM
Thanks - it is a particularly good photo as I am hidden behind others, saving my blushes

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 24, 2009, 21:00:49 PM
Get a Wildthing Paul, then you can get your own back on Allan

I think with the run of luck he's had recently I'd only be adding insult to injury!!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on April 24, 2009, 21:12:22 PM
Thanks - it is a particularly good photo as I am hidden behind others, saving my blushes

Simon

Sorry but NO HIDDING
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on April 24, 2009, 21:19:32 PM
Ahhh  ;copper;  Guilty as charged

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on April 24, 2009, 21:25:36 PM
And this Mustang got a right battering from the Wildthings and the Zaggies :nananana:
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Spoons on April 24, 2009, 21:40:40 PM
Oh no you can see its clearly me !
I am all horse from all of that laughing.

I really need to get a decent zagi, mine has more of a gull wing these days, but hey its fairly old these days !

A real good laugh, I'm hoping for some of this kind of action tomorrow sometime, or sunday, a real buzz !
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on April 24, 2009, 22:14:54 PM
Sounds like a good day was had. 

Beachy Head was adequate but not outstanding this afternoon - smooth lift, but only as strong as say the lift at Thurnham.  Which is okay, but really quite a poor showing for Beachy.  There was a quite a big turnout.  Apparently the lift had been stronger in the morning. 



 
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on April 24, 2009, 22:28:43 PM
Shame, still enjoyable however I'm sure !

Are you playing at the weekend ?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on April 25, 2009, 07:26:33 AM
Looks like Thurnham will be flyable today.  I'm babysitting so unfortunately I'll have to cry off this time and catch up with you next time.  I really want to get to Holly Hill, amazing how that site is taking off again after all these years.

By the way, another site that is improving is Colley Hill.  The National Trust are gradually removing all the scrub from the slope and the landing area, so the lift will be getting smoother and the landing zone larger.  Fantastic!

There are two new NT policies that affect us this summer: (1) the new policy of returning sites to grassy downland by removing scrub, and (2) the new policy of gradually adding a £2 parking charge to all NT carparks, except free for NT members.


Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 25, 2009, 08:24:41 AM
myself and Ray implemented a grassland improvement scheme by picking up all the litter at Holly yesterday, all was going well until I reached down to pick up a length of rope which shot off into the undergrowth.......ADDER!!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on April 25, 2009, 19:54:08 PM
That will be enough to put you off wearing shorts there come the summer !

Sunny at Thurnham today, my face feels very tight :)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 25, 2009, 20:08:49 PM
That will be enough to put you off wearing shorts there come the summer !

Sunny at Thurnham today, my face feels very tight :)

I was going to ask if anyone caught the sun! must remember to use sun cream next time, I feel like I've had a lift and tuck job
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on April 25, 2009, 20:19:27 PM
Who cares about the SUN, how was the LIFT?!!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on April 25, 2009, 20:34:09 PM
You didn't miss anything special Gary. The wind was 25mph at time gusting to 30. That normally means a load of turbulence and we got it ! Good turnout and company though.

IMHO Thurnham works best in 0 to 15mph.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on April 25, 2009, 20:45:39 PM
Crikey, 25-30!  Thurnham is usually hopeless in that much wind, it's all blowing straight at you with virtually none of it going upwards to create any lift.  Not sure why Thurnham does that.  Last time I was there in those conditions people kept gamely launching planes only to see them thrown backwards and broken.

Well, I have availability to fly tomorrow but it doesn't look like the wind will be any good ... sob ...

Apropos of nothing, here's an unusual glider that appeared at Beachy Head yesterday: a scale Learjet.  It was bigger than it looks.  After a couple of hours of fettling on the slope, it was launched, only to sink like a brick way down into the bottom of the bowl.  Not too badly damaged but not able to fly again that day.

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 25, 2009, 21:01:54 PM
Gary, it's looking good for Holly in the afternoon.

I must get some work done in the morning but can probably escape later on, xc weather is giving around 8mph. If the sun is out it'll be superb!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 25, 2009, 21:02:59 PM
interesting info on the Lear, who else was up there other than LGRA?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Spoons on April 25, 2009, 21:14:12 PM
Stonking days flying today with simon.
Some ace combat, now my zagi is well and truely knackered.
The skorp was going very well, and my fast is a nice colour of lobster !
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on April 25, 2009, 21:25:31 PM
interesting info on the Lear, who else was up there other than LGRA?
Tone and Mr X from LGRA (H is still in a cast), plus half a dozen guys I didn't know, a couple of guys with the Lear, about 4 guys with little zagis.  There was an X-Models flying wing too, that all-moulded one that I think you said doesn't fly that well due to too much washout, it looked good on the ground but I didn't see it fly.

Regarding flying tomorrow (Sunday), maybe we should check the weather at about 11am and see if there's anything worth flying in for Sunday afternoon?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on April 25, 2009, 21:27:15 PM
Stonking days flying today with simon.
Some ace combat, now my zagi is well and truely knackered.
The skorp was going very well, and my fast is a nice colour of lobster !

Oh yes, a very good days flying for all concerned today.  I think Andrew and Jacob have really come on

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Spoons on April 25, 2009, 21:28:47 PM
Oh yes, a very good days flying for all concerned today.  I think Andrew and Jacob have really come on

Simon

Yes there are really coming on, there also enjoying it more now.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on April 25, 2009, 21:33:52 PM
I was going to ask if anyone caught the sun! must remember to use sun cream next time, I feel like I've had a lift and tuck job

Ha Ha ! Noticed that your face had caught it as I was leaving. We'll all be looking like Judith Chalmers by the end of summer  ;D
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on April 25, 2009, 21:54:05 PM
Alan flew his rebuilt Carbon Thingy Ma Gig today at Thurnham, but he wouldn't let me have a go!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on April 25, 2009, 21:58:13 PM
This Discus was on its maiden flight today at Thurnham, notice how he is standing....just in case.

He hated how it flew, but it looked good to me.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 25, 2009, 22:08:16 PM

Regarding flying tomorrow (Sunday), maybe we should check the weather at about 11am and see if there's anything worth flying in for Sunday afternoon?

Sounds like a plan (if we haven't all dropped dead of mexican swine flu by then)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on April 26, 2009, 11:00:48 AM
Holly Hill is looking do-able this arvo.  7-9mph, S or SSE ... I won't be flying the jart but at least the Telink Multifun will fly.  Maybe even the Erwin, not sure.   

After intense negotiations I have secured a pass for 12.30pm, which means I'll be getting to Holly around 1.30pm. 

Anyone else escaping Sunday responsibilities to lurk shiftily on a hill?


Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 26, 2009, 11:04:38 AM
I'll come and slack off with you Gary

Got a bit more work and batt charging to do, so I guess I'll be up there two ish

Should be some lovely thermal activity
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on April 26, 2009, 15:11:48 PM
GITS !

(only joking ;))
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on April 26, 2009, 19:31:24 PM
Nice afternoon at Holly Hill, quiet, only 8mph so not major lift, but pleasant.

BUT! ... WAIT TILL YOU SEE PAUL'S VIDEO!

I'm not saying any more other than there will be a competition: how did he do it?

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 26, 2009, 19:36:13 PM
great fotos Gary, looks like that male model needs an ear job though!

thanks for offering up the Multifun for the task in hand, hope the leading edge chunks went back OK :o
all my fault for insisting you fly closer
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on April 26, 2009, 19:41:15 PM
After seeing your flying wing in action, I really, really, really want this:

Homepage (http://www.scalegliders.co.uk/ccp6/index.php?app=gbu0&ns=prodshow&ref=LET_TABORCA_3M)

(But at £720 it's never going to happen)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 26, 2009, 19:56:53 PM

(But at £720 it's never going to happen)


hell of a lot, and it's not even moulded
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: KeithB on April 26, 2009, 21:07:18 PM
Hi, came and had a look this afternoon at Holly Hill, made very welcome thanks.  :af Next time we'll bring something to fly. May need a little guidance as we are new to sloping.

See you soon, Keith and Matthew.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on April 26, 2009, 21:12:58 PM
 :)hi  ya all if you do wreck your Multifun i do have one on ebay for sale
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on April 26, 2009, 21:42:33 PM
Nice afternoon at Holly Hill, quiet, only 8mph so not major lift, but pleasant.

BUT! ... WAIT TILL YOU SEE PAUL'S VIDEO!

I'm not saying any more other than there will be a competition: how did he do it?



Yes but......I know how he did it  :nananana: BUT I AM NOT SAYING

Thanks for the Mags :af
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on April 26, 2009, 21:44:45 PM
Glad to hear you had fun chaps, what a glorious day it was today - wall to wall sunshine most of the day. Even did a bit of sunbathing in the garden ! Bet the thermals were good at Holly ? I am well happy as I sneaked out between 7 and 8:30 this evening and maidened my DLG at my local common. All I can say is wow ! I think I have finally found my flat field friend that hits the spot for me. Such great fun doing a few circuits, hitting tiny bubbles of air and tickling the sticks to eek out the glide, followed by an intensely satisfying hand catch :) I LOVE IT.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 26, 2009, 22:05:10 PM
Lots of sink between the thermals, things evened out later on. It was a lovely mellow evening, managed to flutter the 100" wing a few times getting it down from some strong, smooth late thermals.

Glad you got a good first session in with the Murphy Deryck, I'm looking foward to seeing your launch technique
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on April 26, 2009, 22:16:38 PM
Lots of sink between the thermals, things evened out later on. It was a lovely mellow evening, managed to flutter the 100" wing a few times getting it down from some strong, smooth late thermals.

Glad you got a good first session in with the Murphy Deryck, I'm looking foward to seeing your launch technique

My technique and setup definitely needs refining, but in the hour or so that I was playing I managed to improve (I think).

May need to program a launch phase as my launches were a bit shallow, but for a first go I'm well impressed. Even in the dusky cooling air I'm sure I hit the odd patch of lift here and there, some off the nearby road and tarmac perhaps, and some slight slope lift off the gentle gradient.

With some good thermals and marginal slope lift this should be awesome.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 26, 2009, 22:23:53 PM
looks like a nice spot to fly from, could you limbo under the power lines if you need a challenge?

Forgot to mention, the only dampener on the day...my clutch went as I was driving up to Holly Hill today so I had to drive home double declutching, stalling it at nearly every junction and doing in gear starts to get me going again, all good fun!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on April 26, 2009, 22:33:00 PM
looks like a nice spot to fly from, could you limbo under the power lines if you need a challenge?

Err no ! Had my fill of limbo-ing a long time ago when I got bored and tried to go under a goal post at the playing field with my brushless Twinjet. Elapor confetti  :'(
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 26, 2009, 22:45:32 PM
now that would have made a good movie!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on April 27, 2009, 16:16:10 PM
Just got back from Thurnham, it was gusting up to 40mph, throwing it down with rain.

There was only two of us up there.....I wonder why!!

Had about 1 hour of flying until my fingers where frozen, it was fun though, and I got my fix!!

Colin tried to fly the scratch built Alula.....it is now SCRAP!!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 27, 2009, 16:24:45 PM

Colin tried to fly the scratch built Alula.....it is now SCRAP!!

probably about 36mph too windy for it!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on April 27, 2009, 16:52:59 PM
probably about 36mph too windy for it!
well we did try to fly it from the cow shed wasnt that windy there ?? still gotta try eh
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on April 27, 2009, 18:00:07 PM
Alula in 40 :o)

That's plain suicide !
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on April 27, 2009, 19:05:38 PM
probably about 36mph too windy for it!

It was quite funny though, it either did 1 loop and SPLOT!, or 3/5 loops and winged its way towards the car park then SPLOT, anyway its dead.

But the Wildthings flew great in the strong rain and wind.....they rock!!, I am not to sure how my TX liked the rain though.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on April 27, 2009, 19:33:07 PM
It was quite funny though, it either did 1 loop and SPLOT!, or 3/5 loops and winged its way towards the car park then SPLOT, anyway its dead.

But the Wildthings flew great in the strong rain and wind.....they rock!!, I am not to sure how my TX liked the rain though.
yeah but where else could you go on a cold and wet afternoon and have a good laugh had a feeling it wasnt gonna fly, mmm what can i build next ???????
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on April 27, 2009, 19:48:18 PM
I once flew my Telink Multifun lightweight foam model in 20mph, which was madness ... but flying an Alula in 40mph is ten times the madness ...

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on April 28, 2009, 19:27:01 PM
I once flew my Telink Multifun lightweight doam model in 20mph, which was madness ... but flying an Alula in 40mph is ten times the madness ...


getting board now waiting for new kits to arrive started another fishy thing this aft i know they fly
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Nova Andy on April 28, 2009, 21:07:46 PM
Oh yes, a very good days flying for all concerned today.  I think Andrew and Jacob have really come on

Simon

Thanks (to Jon also), I like to think I learn from the best.

Andrew
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on April 28, 2009, 21:32:41 PM
Good Evening - you found us then!

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on April 29, 2009, 22:18:29 PM
Oh dear, the shocking evidence of our recent Combat session at Holly Hill is now here:

Goodwind Slope Soaring (http://www.goodwindsoaring.blogspot.com/)

It is well up to Paul's best editing standards, and if it doesn't make you chortle, your not human!

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on April 29, 2009, 22:22:41 PM
excellent video paul well done, made me laugh keep up the good work
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on April 29, 2009, 23:23:20 PM
A pic from the LGRA website - this is how those guys turn up at Beachy Head to slope soar!  Beats a clapped out Polo huh?  Clearly we need to up the style quotient - I'm toying with the idea of rocking up to Thurnham in a pearlescent white stretch limo with ten roof racks on top, each holding a moulded F3F model, what do you think?



Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on April 29, 2009, 23:26:06 PM
A pic from the LGRA website - this is how those guys turn up at Beachy Head to slope soar!  Beats a clapped out Polo huh?  Clearly we need to up the style quotient - I'm toying with the idea of rocking up to Thurnham in a pearlescent white stretch limo with ten roof racks on top, each holding a moulded F3F model, what do you think?





You'd never get parked  ::)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 30, 2009, 08:45:13 AM
I'm toying with the idea of rocking up to Thurnham in a pearlescent white stretch limo with ten roof racks on top, each holding a moulded F3F model, what do you think?


here's my old outfit, I had to give up using it when they closed the lane off at the top of the hill as I couldn't turn it in the lane

good to hear you're enjoying the movies
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on April 30, 2009, 12:32:41 PM
This is what was in Paul W's Trailor
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 30, 2009, 12:45:00 PM
This is what was in Paul W's Trailor

 ;D

nearly Rob.....
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on April 30, 2009, 13:51:53 PM
That SB13 is fantastic!  Paul, you have GOT to make a scale model of that...
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on April 30, 2009, 14:04:33 PM
This seems like as good a moment as any to tell you about my real glider flying. 

About a year ago I was in Colorado for work and tried some gliding.  They aerotow you in a modern, fairly aerobatic GroB glider to a pretty staggering 12000 feet.  Then instructor in the back seat says "Well, we're high enough that whatever trouble you get us into, I can get us out of, so just go for it, do whatever you want."  That would never happen in the UK!

So I chuck the thing around, doing mild aerobatics (I say mild, but it feels pretty darn wild to me).  It's just like model flying except easier becuase you're in it.  You can obviously feel the airflow over the surfaces etc.  But I'm pretty nervous because I'm not sure how much G force the wings can take etc, I keep thinking "did he really mean do whatever you want?"  Also, I'm worried about stalling so I keep the nose down.

Anyway, after about ten minutes he says "We've lost 6000 feet now, so I'd better take over".  I didn't realise I was losing so much altitude!  I explain that I was wary of stalling, but the instructor says stalls are no problem and demonstrates one.  Then we fly around over the Rockies for a while and then comes the landing, which is slightly alarming, that ground racing towards you.

Overall, pretty cool, but I decided I like model flying better because you can chuck the plane around as much as you like without risking your life.

Anyway, that's my real glider story...


Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 30, 2009, 14:11:52 PM
That SB13 is fantastic!  Paul, you have GOT to make a scale model of that...


I know, I know! I've still got one of the first copies of Silent Flight from the early nineties with full details of the prototype. A 1/4 or 1/3 scale version is on my very long 'to do' list.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 30, 2009, 14:15:23 PM

Anyway, that's my real glider story...



You've not the urge to take it further then Gary, or was a taster enough?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on April 30, 2009, 14:27:29 PM
The taster was enough for me I think.  Also I promised my wife that with babies to support I'd stop flying real planes, parachuting etc, which is fair enough.  (The parachuting and flying a WWII fighter are other stories I won't go into).  I just wanted to try them.  (Then again, that lightweight run-to-launch glider thing that guy was flying over Bopeep looked a bit tempting...)

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 30, 2009, 14:38:19 PM
(Then again, that lightweight run-to-launch glider thing that guy was flying over Bopeep looked a bit tempting...)


wasn't it just!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on April 30, 2009, 16:34:04 PM
(Then again, that lightweight run-to-launch glider thing that guy was flying over Bopeep looked a bit tempting...)


I second that  :af
Anyone around this week end?
I took the friday and the tuseday off for a massive weekend, but i think the wind has taken the weekend off too  :(

It will only be a couple of ours here and there as i have to get some stuff around the house does ( if i like my balls where they are)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 30, 2009, 17:00:07 PM
but i think the wind has taken the weekend off too  :(


xc weather isn't looking too bad Allen, I'm staying local this weekend as it's looking good for south westerlies
starting with me bunking off early tomorrow!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Leebert on April 30, 2009, 17:44:29 PM
Might be up for a bit of sloping on Monday i(f I can arrange it  ;) )

Need to do some Whisper set-up :)

Cheers
Lee
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on April 30, 2009, 18:58:07 PM
It wasn't tooooooo bad at Holly Hill today, Alan flew his very nice Gillette and Wildthing, also there was John, Simon, Colin, Reg and Groupie Ray.

I tried to fly my Le Fish (Swinger 46") but it flew like a brick, Colins one flew great, they all said it was my flying :'( so they must be right.....and I thought I was geting better, I can't practice any more than EVERY DAY!!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 30, 2009, 19:08:04 PM
what I want to know is did anyone take a scythe with them?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on April 30, 2009, 19:10:51 PM
My planes always look like somebody took a scythe to them...

I stopped by Colley Hill on the way home from work this evening, but it wasn't much good.

I'm up for some flying at some stage over the weekend, possibly Monday?  But it's hard to tell from the forecast what day is going to work best.  So I'll make a last minute decision I guess.  Story of my life really...




Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on April 30, 2009, 19:11:25 PM
Thanks for the great combat video Paul.

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on April 30, 2009, 19:13:09 PM
what I want to know is did anyone take a scythe with them?

Yes!!!  its called a Wildthing doing lots of touch and goes LOL!!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 30, 2009, 19:25:47 PM
Thanks for the great combat video Paul.

Simon

thanks for providing some great material Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on April 30, 2009, 19:27:22 PM
Yes!!!  its called a Wildthing doing lots of touch and goes LOL!!

very good Rob!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on April 30, 2009, 19:35:03 PM
It wasn't tooooooo bad at Holly Hill today, Alan flew his very nice Gillette and Wildthing, also there was John, Simon, Colin, Reg and Groupie Ray.

I tried to fly my Le Fish (Swinger 46") but it flew like a brick, Colins one flew great, they all said it was my flying :'( so they must be right.....and I thought I was geting better, I can't practice any more than EVERY DAY!!
you could always try a stimulator or is it simulator think i was right the first time ??
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on April 30, 2009, 19:52:59 PM
Paul made one of my planes that was flying like a brick (Telink Multifun) fly a lot better by moving the c of g back a lot.  Maybe your le Fish needs the c of g moving back?  I think it's a bit like a Multifun in that it needs the c of g ridiculously far back.

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on April 30, 2009, 20:16:36 PM
Paul made one of my planes that was flying like a brick (Telink Multifun) fly a lot better by moving the c of g back a lot.  Maybe your le Fish needs the c of g moving back?  I think it's a bit like a Multifun in that it needs the c of g ridiculously far back.



I will give it a go Cheers, as we tried adding weight.

Plus.....Has anyone got an ALULA for sale ?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on April 30, 2009, 21:34:49 PM
i can make you one for £50 out of depron
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on April 30, 2009, 21:51:17 PM
i can make you one for £50 out of depron

Na!! I want a real one :nananana:
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on May 01, 2009, 18:09:20 PM
Today as you may know was a beautiful day. I got up looked out at blue sky and a light breeze, so me and the AJ headed up the Longman, was blowing a great 18mph up there, I was flying for all of 15 minute when i got this feeling something was coming and coming fast It was like a Steven King book
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on May 01, 2009, 18:11:43 PM
Within 5 minutes it when from beautiful blue went to this
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on May 01, 2009, 18:12:12 PM
and
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on May 01, 2009, 21:53:06 PM
I think that's just your ski goggles misting up Allen.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on May 01, 2009, 21:56:46 PM
i can make you one for £50 out of depron

That's a Passer Thermo on your avatar isn't it ?

I've heard they fly on a gnat's fa#t ! Any good ?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on May 01, 2009, 22:00:07 PM
Paul made one of my planes that was flying like a brick (Telink Multifun) fly a lot better by moving the c of g back a lot.  Maybe your le Fish needs the c of g moving back?  I think it's a bit like a Multifun in that it needs the c of g ridiculously far back.



At Thurnham today with the Le Fish/Swinger 46" and I could not get it to fly properly, but luckily for me Paul W was on hand and even though I fly on the wrong mode for him he still managed to sort it out for me and got it flying a lot better (THANKS PAUL) I was about to bin it!!.

It was a good days flying today, apart from my Wildthing almost caught fire, it fell out of the sky with a burning smell, on checking the Tower Pro on board battery gauge had melted all the wiring, a couple more minutes and I think it would have caught fire, I don't know why it happened, It could be Alan keep knocking me out of the sky.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 01, 2009, 22:57:50 PM
Within 5 minutes it when from beautiful blue went to this

Just the right conditions for dsing, shows the shear layer wonderfully!

I suppose there have to be some drawbacks to living on the South Downs. Here's how the North Downs looked at about the same time today Allen....
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 01, 2009, 23:00:06 PM
I fly on the wrong mode for him he still managed to sort it out for me and got it flying a lot better (THANKS PAUL)

happy to help Rob, I quite enjoyed spending the afternoon pounding someone else's plane into the deck
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on May 01, 2009, 23:05:15 PM
I see the Cobras been out again...

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on May 01, 2009, 23:06:41 PM
That's a Passer Thermo on your avatar isn't it ?

I've heard they fly on a gnat's fa#t ! Any good ?
yes it is a passer x still waiting for delivery from ireland, lets hope it flys as good as it looks , seen it flying on utube
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on May 01, 2009, 23:20:43 PM
seen these ?

Passer Thermo - RC Groups (http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=716649)

West Sydney Slope Soarers Xmas flyin 2007 - RC Groups (http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=792975)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 01, 2009, 23:23:29 PM
I see the Cobras been out again...

Simon

Yes indeed Simon, I can report back fully now.....

I think my CG has ended behind the Daryl Perkins' position, but I'll have to check. It really was in its element today and I'm wringing out with a bit more confidence now, very rapid climbouts in the thermals and then sweeping speed runs- all good stuff!

The roll rate is the only down side as you warned Simon. I'm going to take the ailerons off at some point and give the wipers some surgery to increase the throws.

It does feel very pitch neutral, needing very little down when inverted, and no down compensation at all through the roll (never had a plane do that before). I'm probably flying it too light at the moment, it does eat up the sky when required, but I can see myself with a little ballast onboard most of the time to help it feel 'solid' so I'll make up some slugs at some point.

I made my own templates for the neutral positions on the wing, but didn't bother with any for the tailplane. Looking at it the tail today, it may have a small amount of down trimmed in. Next stage is to work on a 'thermal' and a 'speed' setup on the 3030.

The main thing that struck me today was how much more of the sky I was using.

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on May 01, 2009, 23:39:29 PM
Glad to hear you are enjoying it.  A bit of ballast will really get it going.

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Phil.Taylor on May 01, 2009, 23:53:43 PM
The main thing that struck me today was how much more of the sky I was using.
Whoah  - better watch out for paraglider thingies & Valenta Storms then...
Phil
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 02, 2009, 09:18:34 AM
Whoah  - better watch out for paraglider thingies & Valenta Storms then...
Phil

sage advice Mr Taylor!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on May 02, 2009, 09:22:43 AM
seen these ?

Passer Thermo - RC Groups ([url]http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=716649[/url])

West Sydney Slope Soarers Xmas flyin 2007 - RC Groups ([url]http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=792975[/url])
thanks for the links it flys quite well cant wait now. colin
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on May 02, 2009, 09:54:09 AM
not particularly exciting vids but demonstrates the light wind capability quite well I thought.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on May 03, 2009, 20:33:03 PM
Had our clubs X country today was great fun and the first time i have flown the NW slope at the longman, which meant walking past the west bowl following the path right to the top wow that's one hell of a walk

Comp was very Educational although it's not a real Cross country we have a set of flags to reach which are behind the slope the the first is on the ridge and the second is just behind and went further and further back.

the Exp pilots just hooked a thermal and rode it back then dived back over the ridge to the slope

but it made me realize how hard a real Cross country could be, trying to gain enough height to dive to the next slope

was a good day  :af
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on May 03, 2009, 21:06:57 PM
I forgot that was today.  I must put the ESSA events in my calendar.  Good to hear it went well.

I finished my Blaster 2e today.  I had planned to fly tomorrow but not sure the weather's going to play ball.  I'll check in the morning. 
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on May 03, 2009, 21:14:28 PM
The biggest thing i learnt today was that a floater is not good for XC I thought it would be, but imagine doing a massive square landing futher back than ever before then needing to exchange high for speed to get back over the ridge, i think its a weigh up between something that can give great height in the lift yet penetrate well out of the lift

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on May 04, 2009, 10:33:53 AM
Great day at Beltinge yesterday.  A good combat session, some speedy flying on the edge with the Race M Ult and Ceres, and watching martin really getting to grips with his new Skorp

Simon

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on May 04, 2009, 10:44:53 AM
Great pic.  Is it okay to use it on the Slopehunter website?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on May 04, 2009, 10:53:20 AM
Yes, I'm sure it would be (courtesy of Andrew Chilcott)

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Nova Andy on May 04, 2009, 14:38:16 PM
 :af it's fine........

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 04, 2009, 19:20:57 PM
Great day at Beltinge yesterday.  A good combat session, some speedy flying on the edge with the Race M Ult and Ceres, and watching martin really getting to grips with his new Skorp

Simon



I would have snuck out to join you all, but my slope fairy considered it too far west  :(
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on May 04, 2009, 19:31:30 PM
Felt more like January than May today at Thurnham. Roll on the summer !
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on May 04, 2009, 19:51:38 PM
I would have snuck out to join you all, but my slope fairy considered it too far west  :(

Well I didn't arrive until 3, and it was NW, so had a bit of west in it, but by 4:30 it was straight on and had freshened a bit, and was really good.  Lots of lift, smooth as always, and the F3F models were ripping along.  One of my better sessions at Beltinge

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on May 05, 2009, 12:53:03 PM
Maidened my Blaster 2e yesterday.  It flew beautifully ... right up to the moment it crashed.  Loss of radio control due to the carbon fuse coming between me and the aerial (I had the aerial taped to the underside of the fuse and on the last turn to land, the plane was angled so that the aerial was away from me, the glitching started with the motor coming on by itself, the plane powered itself vertically into the ground at speed). 

I cannot believe how well such a lightly-constructed plane survived such an impact!  No structural damage (except the spinner split - which shows how hard it hit).  The wing came off and broke the aileron servo leads, and the rudder servo isn't working for some reason yet to be determined.  The wing got the slightest crumple on the delicate skin but that's purely cosmetic.  Amazing that such a delicately constructed plane survived largely unscathed. 

The most remarkable crash survival I've ever seen from the plane I least expected to see it from.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 05, 2009, 13:11:44 PM
It's such a lovely looking model Gary, I hope to see it in action again soon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Phil.Taylor on May 05, 2009, 14:32:50 PM
Maidened my Blaster 2e yesterday.  It flew beautifully ... right up to the moment it crashed.  Loss of radio control due to the carbon fuse coming between me and the aerial (I had the aerial taped to the underside of the fuse
Ouch - sorry to hear it
after the event, but on a carbon fus leave about half the aerial dangling... (and I'm still getting occasional glitching on the Highlight DLG)
Phil
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 05, 2009, 14:36:09 PM
pre-maiden
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: swarrans on May 06, 2009, 08:50:54 AM
Amazingly enough I've only just discovered this thread despite having attended a lot of the flying sessions being discussed.
I think I've worked out who everyone is (although "Alan the soarer" isn't "our" Alan is he?) I am another Simon (with the red Wildthing, Easystar and Junior S) but can't be confused with the other Simon because I'm the crap pilot!

Hoping to get up to Thurnham again today work (yes, I do actually!) permitting.

Big congratulations to John BTW for having several successful flights with his Ventus and only requiring 2 changes of underpants!

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on May 06, 2009, 09:23:22 AM
Welcome Simon, many of the finest slope slackers you will find here.

You kept that maiden quiet John, come on expose your prodigiousness :)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on May 06, 2009, 09:37:07 AM
And no I'm not that Alan
I'm Allen  ;D
You wont meet me unless you come to the south downs coz I'm so spoilt with nice slopes I don't travel much

Although I do plan to do a round the slopes in 80 days but Its way down my to do list
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 06, 2009, 09:39:05 AM
(although "Alan the soarer" isn't "our" Alan is he?) I am another Simon (with the red Wildthing, Easystar and Junior S)


Hi Simon,

you're correct Allen the Soarer isn't Thurnham Alan, he's a chap who regularly flys on the South Downs.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on May 06, 2009, 09:41:36 AM
I am another Simon (with the red Wildthing, Easystar and Junior S) but can't be confused with the other Simon because I'm the crap pilot!
Simon

Would love to know what the Junior S is like I nearlu bought one the other day but I have been told there tails are week and often come off
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on May 06, 2009, 10:05:53 AM
hello all, and welcome Simon.
Firstly Alan, both Simon and I have Electro's, I have epoxied my tail on and Simon just has his bolted on. Neither of us have had any problems with them, although if your going to Outside loop the damm thing then i would err on the side of glue assist. The Gliders themselves are great. Very stable, very easy to fly. Although i would sit the C of G more towards 85mm back instead of the 60 recommended. Also, i have found that with a bit of wind, stick a 3s lipo in it if you want to get some penetration as it tends to "sit" with a 2s ( fine for lighter winds though).

Well....... She flew.......The Ventus....... She flew!
After getting it for my birthday and then hearing the horror stories of the infamous tip stall etc etc, I Finished the build and took her to thurnham......left her in the car then came home!! Damm it! Damm my feeble Nerves!
2nd attempt was yesterday. Took her to Thurnham..... actually got her out of the car, to the slope, and put her together..........then preceded to walk around and around looking for rain, wind or anything that meant i couldnt fly! trouble was, even though it was a westerly, all the other gliders were zooming around. Maybe i could find a fault.....no, no! She had to go. So with the help of the other guys, especially Simon but Definately not "go on son....Chuck it!" Rob, I chucked it........ it started to climb, then go out, then, out, then rob saying "your a bit far out mate" (Ba***rd). got her back to slope, after a bit of trimming and plonked it in the filed in front of the fence. very un-pretty but still in one piece!
Anyhooo. Second flight was much better, couple of twitches here and then but i got the basic Figure of 8's going. Luckily, Alan, (our) wandered over, so i chucked the Tx at him and said try this for me........this is where my flying skills (or lack of them)suddenly became apparent, as everybody watched as Alan Stalled, Looped, Rolled, whipped, dived, Zipped etc etc as he does! He handed it back saying, it needed a little washout in the right wing tip and was a Tad nose heavy. Hurrah! I took the controls back, continued with my figure of 8'S and of course everyone got bored and went back to their wildthings. Ha, Ha.
Did it tip stall? yup, a little. Am i still a crap pilot? Yup. but it Flew and it certainly made my day! back up to Thurnham in an hour or so, so if you want to laugh at a great glider flown badly, then that'll be me!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on May 06, 2009, 10:47:27 AM
Great to hear it went well. Best advice given to me (by Paul and Alan incidentally) with my ASW 28 was to keep the turns flat and shallow if the speed/lift drops. Last thing you want is a tip stall near to the ground, best to let it just fly with minimal stick input and if necessary land out below and start the walk of shame !
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on May 06, 2009, 11:13:49 AM
Yeah, I wrecked a Multiplex Cularis by tip stalling it.  It's simple enough to avoid, you've just got to keep a bit of speed up, and never do steeply banked slow turns.  The only really tricky time is the last turn before landing, coz you're low, slow and turning into the wind ... deadly.

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on May 06, 2009, 11:29:58 AM
I was looking at the Cularis last night actually, considering it as a pure glider without a motor. I keep buying bloody lightweight gliders though, need something for the heavier days......
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on May 06, 2009, 11:32:08 AM
The Cularis is quite good but seems a bit overpriced these days ... with your flying skills you might be better off with something more moulded, there's so many good options for little more than the Cularis.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on May 06, 2009, 11:50:08 AM
I think something like a second hand F3F machine should be next on my list. Better start saving !
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on May 06, 2009, 12:04:53 PM

Well....... She flew.......The Ventus....... She flew!
  Am i still a crap pilot?  

Don't forget the BIN LINER TODAY.

John you just have NO BOTTLE!! LOL....JUST CHUCK IT!!, he forgot to tell you that he did go home between flights to change his underpants (TRUE)

HELLO SIMON !

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 06, 2009, 12:41:13 PM
I think something like a second hand F3F machine should be next on my list. Better start saving !

post on the Yahoo F3F, Phil gave me the steer on that one. There seems to be stuff out there that people want to shift with or woithout gear. I think you could pick something up with servos for around the £200-250 mark, it might be a bit ratty but at that price who cares!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on May 06, 2009, 13:24:05 PM
Something like a Luna would be nice if it ever came up, too much in demand at the moment though ?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on May 06, 2009, 14:28:41 PM
Ah, I see why you asked about the Cularis: the nice-looking 2nd hand one available you-know-where.  It's a good glider, nice for relaxed, majestic flying (although you need to keep the speed up a bit because it'll tip stall).  But it's not that good at being aerobatic or withstanding higher g's.  The wing and tail connectors kept giving me trouble because I was being too aerobatic and flying it in too much wind, I was over-stressing it, putting too many g's on it.  It just doesn't seem to be designed to cope with that.  Since you're a good flyer I think you'd get frustrated with it.



Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on May 06, 2009, 14:36:00 PM
Del
Look for a second hand Miraj
Theres alot of them about and its a great plane and everyone will tell you so

Fast
Aerobatic
Strong
fly any condition

Can believe I sold mine  :banghead:

but finances forced sale  :'(

Its the big bro of my Aldij so there a bit ugly but fly like something else
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on May 06, 2009, 15:23:14 PM
Ah, I see why you asked about the Cularis: the nice-looking 2nd hand one available you-know-where.  It's a good glider, nice for relaxed, majestic flying (although you need to keep the speed up a bit because it'll tip stall).  But it's not that good at being aerobatic or withstanding higher g's.  The wing and tail connectors kept giving me trouble because I was being too aerobatic and flying it in too much wind, I was over-stressing it, putting too many g's on it.  It just doesn't seem to be designed to cope with that.  Since you're a good flyer I think you'd get frustrated with it.





No, no that one on BMFA is way too expensive ! The Cularis only interested me because it is relatively cheap to buy new and full house with a decent wingspan. It's not going to light my fire on windier days though. I've got more than enough gliders to cover me for light/thermal days. I'm thinking more along the lines of Luna/2m Blade/Erwin, etc. etc. Not a Whisper though eh Allen ?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on May 06, 2009, 15:48:41 PM
LOL no not a Whisper NOT ANY XMODELS

Except a mini blade the rest i hate

Whisper= Floaty, Way To Floaty, you can mod it to go faster but better to by fast in the first place  :af

You have plenty of floaty already

If you want new, cheap, fast, then the Luna is only £240 and has the best value for money out there IMO

but you want F3F second hand you could get a fully kitted out Miraj for about the same and i can promise you no one can put that plane down, except for its looks   ;D

(make my AJ look floaty)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on May 06, 2009, 17:01:52 PM
I'm not totally convinced by any of the X-Models ... er ... models.  The Blade is okay but doesn't fly as well as some.  The Pushy Cat seemed to have been released before being perfected.  The flying wing apparently doesn't ... at least not as well as it should, again as though they released it before perfecting it.  The Whisper is quite nice as a floatyish non-penetrating plane, which is fine I guess ... I just think there are usually better models out there.

The Bird range is somewhat inexpensive and apparently works well.  There are quite a few others.  I fancy a Baudis Banana myself, despite the dumb name; the Combo model with a glider fuse and a power fuse, the price seems reasonable.  There are lots of others I want but the prices have risen to silly money...


Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: tp2fly on May 06, 2009, 19:50:44 PM
Hi all.  Not been on here for a while because ive been busy designing /building my own project........CONCORDE! 
ALL made from Correx! Nearly finished it now, No idea if it will fly but heres hoping!  Never designed and built my own model before so could end up a crumpled mess!  ;D

Model is six feet long and true to scale outline so think it might need a fifty mph wind to stay up!

Could be a south coast model only but will test it at Thurnham soon.

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: foamcrazy on May 06, 2009, 20:13:18 PM
Hi all.  Not been on here for a while because ive been busy designing /building my own project........CONCORDE! 
ALL made from Correx! Nearly finished it now, No idea if it will fly but heres hoping!  Never designed and built my own model before so could end up a crumpled mess!  ;D

Model is six feet long and true to scale outline so think it might need a fifty mph wind to stay up!

Could be a south coast model only but will test it at Thurnham soon.



Sounds good....any pic's to wet our um arrrr...appetite ?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on May 06, 2009, 20:15:35 PM
These pics. are from Thurnham today.

John is the proud owner of this fine flying Ventus.....he loves it.....and me...LOL!

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on May 06, 2009, 20:33:40 PM
Couple more pics. from Thurnham today.

John Boy uses his dog ball launcher to try and retrieve the Graupner Junior s from the top of a 50' magnetic tree, see the ball that now lives in the tree with the Graupner!!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on May 06, 2009, 20:58:37 PM
That is mad ... who would have thought the ball would get stuck up there?!

This keeps happening lately, we're going to have to develop an untreeing plan.  Maybe -

- a long lasso and some might fine rodeo lassoing skills
- a model heli with a big hook hanging under it
- a spear fishing gun

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on May 06, 2009, 20:59:51 PM
Bu@@er ! I take it that it's still stuck then ?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Ollie B on May 06, 2009, 21:08:14 PM
Not even I've managed to get stuck in a tree at Thurnham yet  ::).  We were trying to spot-land on the remains of Paul's flying wing prototype this evening.   
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on May 06, 2009, 21:09:07 PM
That is mad ... who would have thought the ball would get stuck up there?!

This keeps happening lately, we're going to have to develop an untreeing plan.  Maybe -

- a long lasso and some might fine rodeo lassoing skills
- a model heli with a big hook hanging under it
- a spear fishing gun



The ball got stuck because it was attatched to fishing line.....it was a good shot by John though.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on May 06, 2009, 21:11:54 PM
Not even I've managed to get stuck in a tree at Thurnham yet  ::).  We were trying to spot-land on the remains of Paul's flying wing prototype this evening.   

Oh but you will Ollie.....Dem der twees hav magnets in um!!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Ollie B on May 06, 2009, 21:13:20 PM
The ball got stuck because it was attatched to fishing line.....it was a good shot by John though.

You could of course try the patented long sticks and CW tape method. :)

Oh but you will Ollie.....Dem der twees hav magnets in um!!

So do the ones at Holly Hill :'(
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on May 06, 2009, 21:18:31 PM
You could of course try the patented long sticks and CW tape method. :)

So do the ones at Holly Hill :'(

And people do Tree Praying at Holly Hill

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 06, 2009, 21:47:09 PM
just to put it in to context.....it is very, very high
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on May 06, 2009, 22:08:09 PM
do i need to bring my chain saw with me next time ? or is that too drastic?? oh by the way got my passer x today made a start this afternoon.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Mark 250 on May 06, 2009, 23:20:48 PM
Quote
That is mad ... who would have thought the ball would get stuck up there?!

This keeps happening lately, we're going to have to develop an untreeing plan.  Maybe -

- a long lasso and some might fine rodeo lassoing skills
- a model heli with a big hook hanging under it
- a spear fishing gun
Just off the top of my head
Cherry picker?

mark j
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on May 07, 2009, 07:13:52 AM
Sorted - there's one for sale for £17,250 on Ebay.

Or this old one might go for less.  Chip in £500 each and it's ours.  Paul, you'd be happy to be up in this thing while I waved it around, wouldn't you?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: swarrans on May 07, 2009, 08:20:40 AM
Well, if you hadn't already guessed it was my Junior S that's in the tree and my incompetence that put it there (everyone being very kind at the moment - even Rob!).
Think I'm going to stick to things my skill level matches from now on - Easystar and Wildthing (having said that I crashed my Easystar yesterday too!).
I went up to the tree early this morning (7:20) and it was still in exactly the same place and still beeping at me, saying "come and get me"  I'm too chicken to try and climb the tree and don't want anyone else to do it either in case anything happens.

The cherry picker sounds great - although even with a personal investment of £500 it's still more than the Junior cost (not that I'm EVER going to do this again of course!).

Thanks so much for the support - great bunch of chaps...

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 07, 2009, 08:34:23 AM
Paul, you'd be happy to be up in this thing while I waved it around, wouldn't you?


Sounds like fun, looks about the right height too

On a more serious note, how about knocking up a bow and arrow using some ramin and dowels from B&Q, and get some heftier twine on a spool. I still think it can be retrieved without climbing all the way up there.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on May 07, 2009, 08:36:41 AM
Maybe we should all invest in a second hand fishing pole instead on the picker, probably has a better reach too
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 07, 2009, 08:40:51 AM
Maybe we should all invest in a second hand fishing pole instead on the picker, probably has a better reach too

it's at least 50ft from the level of the road, the base of the tree is another 6ft or so lower than the road, I'm not sure I've ever seen a plane so awkwardly planted....
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: swarrans on May 07, 2009, 08:42:29 AM
it's at least 50ft from the level of the road, the base of the tree is another 6ft or so lower than the road, I'm not sure I've ever seen a plane so awkwardly planted....

Haha - I DO have at least one skill then!

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on May 07, 2009, 08:43:57 AM
Fishing poles can be up to 20m  ::)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on May 07, 2009, 08:48:16 AM
I think I lied 16m is more realistic but £2000 for 16m of carbon is still not very Junior S cost effective, unless you know someone with one  :xx
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 07, 2009, 08:53:51 AM
I think I lied 16m is more realistic but £2000 for 16m of carbon is still not very Junior S cost effective, unless you know someone with one  :xx

or we all turn up with a collection of fishing rods, conduit pipe and packing tape and gradually feed an 'uber pole' up the tree section by section.....

personally I still favour the bow and arrow approach, spearing it through the wing then tugging it down
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: swarrans on May 07, 2009, 09:02:21 AM
STOP PRESS!
My one-man SWAT team mountaineering friend is insisting on coming round to assess the situation!
I will try and stop him if I think there is any doubt about safety but he's trying to convince me he does this for fun..

I do like the bow and arrow idea though so I will bounce that off the SWAT team.

Rest assured I will take a few photographs however it works out!...


Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on May 07, 2009, 09:16:52 AM
yup. still in the tree this morning. im going up in a minute with sticks, but i think Simon has a mountain climber mate whos gonna shimmy up it! lol
either way we WILL get the bugger back!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Mark 250 on May 07, 2009, 11:11:45 AM
I thought everyone in Kent would have a cheery picker, Garden of England and all that.
This does have the potential to develop into some sort of Ealing comedy ;D
Bow and arrow, what's the probability of it going through the Lipo?? Kent Messenger headline" North Downs Decimated By Wild Fire"
Someone must know a nice man from EDF,Bt,Council with a picker who will get it down for a drink.
Or chimney or duct rods, tie 3 lines to top for stability tape a coat hanger on shaped into a U  and push it up and out.
Best of luck with this hope you get it back.
 Mark J
 
 
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Phil.Taylor on May 07, 2009, 12:33:22 PM
Harpoon?

BTW - do you get many whalers in Kent?

Phil
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on May 07, 2009, 12:59:25 PM
Oh well. The Mountaineer option proved just too tricky and dangerous. Im not giving up yet though.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 07, 2009, 13:01:33 PM
Harpoon?

BTW - do you get many whalers in Kent?

Phil

no, but I could have a word with my mum......
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on May 07, 2009, 14:30:23 PM
We had a good go this morning with NO LUCK.....We managed to flag down these rescue guys as they flew over :uk:
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on May 07, 2009, 15:01:23 PM
Brilliant.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 07, 2009, 15:02:39 PM
We had a good go this morning with NO LUCK.....We managed to flag down these rescue guys as they flew over :uk:

very good Rob!

What methods did you try today?

Perhaps we should formulate a plan of action for tomorrow and arrive en-mass, fully equipt. I have a leveling staff that extends to 5m and is very rigid. I've also got some conduit and an old fishing rod somewhere, though I'm sceptical the long rod approach will work....
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Russell on May 07, 2009, 15:04:42 PM
I'm sure some lengths of copper pipe joined with compression fittings would do the trick  :xx
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on May 07, 2009, 15:11:57 PM
Paul I am off up there at 4.30 today to get it down armed with fishing rod and reel, loads of weights, and........ :xx

Ive got some pics. of Simon's mate with all his ab-sailing gear half way up the tree, the only reason he didn't go higher is that he is just on the mend from a broken elbow.

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on May 07, 2009, 15:16:43 PM
Crikey ! What have you started here Simon. This is better than the Krypton Factor.......
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 07, 2009, 15:20:05 PM
Paul I am off up there at 4.30 today to get it down armed with fishing rod and reel, loads of weights, and........ :xx

Ive got some pics. of Simon's mate with all his ab-sailing gear half way up the tree, the only reason he didn't go higher is that he is just on the mend from a broken elbow.



good luck chaps, I'm not out at all today but will be getting out to play tomorrow so give us a progress report later Rob and we can replan if required.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: swarrans on May 07, 2009, 15:45:20 PM
We had a good go this morning with NO LUCK.....We managed to flag down these rescue guys as they flew over :uk:

I thought you'd done it then Rob until I detected a Photoshop Moment!

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: swarrans on May 07, 2009, 15:47:49 PM
Crikey ! What have you started here Simon. This is better than the Krypton Factor.......

I know, I know.  Not exactly the fame I've been looking for though.   My wife is finding this hard to understand - "You're going up there again?  Why not just buy another one?..."

It's become a point of principle now, although personally i think the chances of getting it out in less than 10 pieces is small...

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on May 07, 2009, 18:42:49 PM
STOP PRESS.......STOP PRESS........

She's Down. After 24 hours of  "tree hugging", we finally managed to get the hippy Electro out of her nest. Rob "just chuck it" Radford managed to impress all and sundry with his 400 year old multiplier and boat rod. After wet finger testing the wind and calculating the exact trajectory angle of his 8 oz fishing weight, a full stomach full of garlicky "spag bol" 3 beers, 2 small ferrets called jim and daisy and a fruit bat with depression, managed to beach cast a beauty, settling just behind the right wing. pretending he had just hooked a 12ft basking shark, he "gently" coaxed the Graupner out of the tree of doom. Down she came to nestle again neatly, but more importantly, at a stick pokable height in the lower branches. 1 minute later and the tree finally gave up the fight and returned the Elecktro to her owner.

two things........

1. its completely repairable
2. isn't it amazing how people are more happy to reclaim their damaged property than they were when it wasnt damaged?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: swarrans on May 07, 2009, 18:56:10 PM
I cannot quite believe it, but Rob managed (after about 100 castings) to launch a lead weight from his fishing rod and hook a line over the plane and got it down in a condition that is repairable.  I can't thank Rob and John in particular enough for the mega support - and the rest of you too.
I feel like I've won the lottery!

I think the wings are salvageable and other than a new lipo and putting hinges on it should fly again soon.  Any advice on hinges BTW - should I get the CA type or a proper hinge type joint?

Many thanks again...

Simon

(http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee324/swarrans/P1000277.jpg)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Nova Andy on May 07, 2009, 19:33:50 PM
the "other" Simon offers these:  :''
(http://www.perfumezilla.com/product_images/tweezerm-nail-care-deluxe-nail-scissors-women.jpg)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on May 07, 2009, 19:34:33 PM
Great news Simon ! If you require some spares let me know and I may be persuaded to part with some ;)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on May 07, 2009, 20:25:26 PM
This is the Man that Simon keeps in his car boot to recover his plane from tree landings  :af

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Phil.Taylor on May 07, 2009, 20:26:09 PM
Have you heard the Irish joke about the tree fishermen?  ;D

Well done to all for getting it down - just don't go putting it back up there again!

Phil
(they were put out of business by the tree fellers)  $%&
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Spoons on May 07, 2009, 20:30:11 PM
the "over" Simon offers these:  :''
([url]http://www.perfumezilla.com/product_images/tweezerm-nail-care-deluxe-nail-scissors-women.jpg[/url])


Providing there only a christmas cracker version.
These are great for chopping your way into a thicket of hawthorn bushes !
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on May 07, 2009, 20:48:59 PM
i think i have a couple of plastic hinges which will be perfect for reassembling the rudder simon!. lemme dig em out. BTW, Gibson says thankyou for his brand spanking new ball on a rope!  ;) (woof)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on May 07, 2009, 20:54:05 PM
i think i have a couple of plastic hinges which will be perfect for reassembling the rudder simon!. lemme dig em out. BTW, Gibson says thankyou for his brand spanking new ball on a rope!  ;) (woof)

Come on John tell the people what happened to the Ventus today!!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on May 07, 2009, 21:03:16 PM
Sounds ominous......

This is getting a bit like reality TV - is there no privacy anymore ;) ;)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on May 07, 2009, 21:09:56 PM
Ok , Ok.... well as confidence builds, conplacency kicks in. try a little more, push the envelope a tad more.... you know the score.....hey, we've all been there right? thats how we learn!

got to the slope, lifts a little iffy, but good in places. decide i'm not going to pace around and get the Ventus in the air. all was good for about 20 mins. lift dropped out a tad and it was getting harder to keep speed and height. im so nervous about the tip stalls that im extremely concious about the "maintain speed" aspect, especially in the turns. plus the fact that i had dive tested and backed the C of G from the recommend 42-46mm to 55mm, which is a lot on a high aspect ratio wing. anyhow, the result was a low pass to maintain speed, turned, tip stalled the right wing and actually mangaged to recover. the only problem was that i was dangerously low now and it didnt want to climb back out. I had to bring it back round and attempt a downwind landing in the field below the fence (thurnham slope). bloody thing tip stalled again( low spped and bank) and i sort of splatted it on the slope, reducing the wing span by about 8 inches :banghead: . luckily, it broke on the dihedral join which is fixable ( actually done already) and the fuse is a bit sore, cracked and a bit rashy. but hey, im still happy and she'll fly again!  :)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on May 07, 2009, 21:12:32 PM
Sounds ominous......

This is getting a bit like reality TV - is there no privacy anymore ;) ;)

I'm a trouble causer, camera under my jacket just waiting for those nasty moments, then BAM!!!.....got Ya!!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on May 07, 2009, 21:14:45 PM
BTW Rob, you said you may have some Gel coat available. any chance i can nick a bit?  :xx
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on May 07, 2009, 21:17:07 PM
BTW Rob, you said you may have some Gel coat available. any chance i can nick a bit?  :xx

How you fly you need a bucket full!!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on May 07, 2009, 21:27:15 PM
Deal! a bucket full it is! thanks mate... your a pal!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on May 07, 2009, 21:28:00 PM
OH1 anyone selling a blade or such like? i want one! :D
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on May 07, 2009, 22:09:13 PM
OH1 anyone selling a blade or such like? i want one! :D


what about this ?

BMFA Classified Ads / Baudis Banana (http://www.bmfaclassifieds.co.uk/detail.php?id=1077)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on May 07, 2009, 22:52:30 PM
OH1 anyone selling a blade or such like? i want one! :D
got several stanley blades
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on May 07, 2009, 22:54:38 PM
I'm a trouble causer, camera under my jacket just waiting for those nasty moments, then BAM!!!.....got Ya!!
hows the 50" wild thing repaired yet and ready for another bashing tomorrow ??
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on May 07, 2009, 23:00:35 PM
i had to work this arft and evening,and after reading all of what has been going on up at thurnham i feel as though i havnt missed anything that has happened well done to all for keeping all of us informed its been great.  colin the maniac
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: swarrans on May 08, 2009, 08:14:00 AM
OK, last post on the subject to avoid boring people - here's a brief photo chronology:-

Up the tree.
(http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee324/swarrans/P1000273.jpg)

Half way down after Rob's epic casting.
(http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee324/swarrans/P1000275.jpg)

All the way down and celebrating after John's fabulous poking (oh er!).
(http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee324/swarrans/P1000277.jpg)

The End.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on May 08, 2009, 08:20:41 AM
Don't do it again Simon !
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on May 08, 2009, 14:05:33 PM
Looking at that pic of the torn hinge, it's easy to repair.  On Multiplex planes - and I think that plane is the same foam - just glue the hinge together with a bit of cyano.  It sounds a bit odd but works fine.  If there are major holes you could use some silicone (fish tank sealant) to form a rubbery hinge if you wanted.  There's no need to actually add new plastic hinges or anything.  On my Blizzard etc I do this often and it works a treat.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on May 08, 2009, 20:10:23 PM
At Thurnham today we were treated to a couple of flying displays.

The boys with there Power Kites.

And Simon doing some fantastic flying, hopefully Paul W got some video of it, I don't know how fast it was going but it looked like it was over a ton, then vertical into a square loop.......WOW.....and more, and more.............

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 08, 2009, 21:02:29 PM
Simon T was most certainly on form this afternoon, looks like I caught some of it on film and hopefully he'll come and visit us again.

Thanks for the ballast loan Simon, no prizes for guessing what I'll be doing at some point over the weekend!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on May 08, 2009, 21:50:24 PM
Was a great afternoon at Thurnham.  Lots of bumping foam, nice and sunny, and enough wind and thermals to screech the RaceM ult around.  And Paul was making his Cobra sing as well.

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Spoons on May 08, 2009, 22:23:15 PM
Gutted  :'(
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on May 08, 2009, 22:27:42 PM
Gutted  :'(
Oh bu@@er, I wondered when Simon would put in an appearance and show us how it should be done.  :(
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: swarrans on May 09, 2009, 06:36:24 AM
The other Simon (me!) will be putting in an appearance today at Thurnam to show how it's NOT done!

I'm hoping to re-maiden my Junior S (a bit like a born-again Virgin I guess) patched up with packing tape.  I think I may need to buy some new wings but we'll see after the flight.

Simon WS
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 09, 2009, 07:41:11 AM
Probably see you later then SimonWS, I won't be up there 'til mid afternoon though
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on May 09, 2009, 08:11:32 AM
what time u going up simon?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on May 09, 2009, 18:45:01 PM
Concorde at Thurnham, plus vertical climbing Cularis.

Pleased to see Simons Graupner Junior S back together and flying well!!

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on May 09, 2009, 18:49:16 PM
Concorde looks superb - I presume that the wind was far too light today to attempt to fly it.  Looks like one for the mega-lift slopes like Wales!

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Spoons on May 09, 2009, 18:57:30 PM
Yeah very interesting light lift today.
Very thermic, some nice efforts in thermalling our zagis out over the back of the slope (Shame mine is a bag of  :study:)
And a very interesting flight with my skorpion F3B where I launched it and nearly had to land out and the Simon guided me to some nice lift and I was up again phew.
Shame it would of been nice to wizz it around in some good lift (Guess that I should of come to Thurnham last night ! :( ).

Never mind theres always the outside chance that I will get my F3F fix tomorrow.
Either that or some winch launching action !
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on May 09, 2009, 18:58:06 PM
Concorde looks superb - I presume that the wind was far too light today to attempt to fly it.  Looks like one for the mega-lift slopes like Wales!

Simon

I think you may well be right......tp2fly here on the forum would be able to answer better as he scratch built it from corex, it is very very light but there was no radio gear installed, I hope he does test fly it at a local slope as I would like to see it's maiden flight.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on May 09, 2009, 19:17:39 PM
Never mind theres always the outside chance that I will get my F3F fix tomorrow.

No Hope and Bob Hope I think  :(

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on May 09, 2009, 19:24:00 PM
I wasn't planning to fly today but foamcrazy (Tony) phoned me later in the afternoon and tempted me to that newly discovered Warlingham site.  We had a great time there!  We couldn't believe how good the lift was, given that the wind was only 5-10mph.  Then again, I was flying my Blaster and Multifun, and Tony was flying his Speedo, all planes that will fly in very light lift.

I thought maybe Tony had given up flying, but he stops during the winter - much more sensible than us nuts in our skiwear on the South Downs in January...

By the way, Paul "Speed Demon" W, I can confirm my Blaster 2e does fly vertically.  That's on only 16 amps, which sounds ridiculously low for any sort of vertical performance, but I guess it makes sense: if a 2kg plane takes 60 amps to fly vertically, I guess a 500g plane should only take 15.  





Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Nova Andy on May 09, 2009, 21:00:27 PM
Yeah very interesting light lift today.
Very thermic, some nice efforts in thermalling our zagis out over the back of the slope (Shame mine is a bag of  :study:)
And a very interesting flight with my skorpion F3B where I launched it and nearly had to land out and the Simon guided me to some nice lift and I was up again phew.
Shame it would of been nice to wizz it around in some good lift (Guess that I should of come to Thurnham last night ! :( ).

Never mind theres always the outside chance that I will get my F3F fix tomorrow.
Either that or some winch launching action !

I had a "interesting" days flying (ok retrieving) my zagi   :embarassed:
i'v still not got all the thorns out.

Andrew
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: swarrans on May 09, 2009, 21:27:34 PM
Probably see you later then SimonWS, I won't be up there 'til mid afternoon though

Sorry to miss you Paul, I had to leave at 1:30ish

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 09, 2009, 22:20:19 PM


 I can confirm my Blaster 2e does fly vertically.  



look forward to seeing that go Gary
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 09, 2009, 22:21:51 PM
Sorry to miss you Paul, I had to leave at 1:30ish

Simon

didn't rock up til about 4ish today as I has family stuff to do, it was a lovely afternoon though petering out to mellow light lift in the evening
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 09, 2009, 22:25:39 PM
it's all looking a bit lack lustre for tomorrow, looks like I'll have to apply myself to doing something sensible instead.....
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: tp2fly on May 09, 2009, 22:50:37 PM
I think you may well be right......tp2fly here on the forum would be able to answer better as he scratch built it from corex, it is very very light but there was no radio gear installed, I hope he does test fly it at a local slope as I would like to see it's maiden flight.
Thanks guys!   Yes not long now before its ready for its first (and last?!) flight.  Considering its six foot long it is fairly light but wingspan is only 28" ! But it does have quite a bit of wing area so the wing loading should be quite low.  I think it will fly but as Simon said it will prob need a very good slope and blow to stay in the air!  :)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on May 09, 2009, 23:49:34 PM
it's all looking a bit lack lustre for tomorrow, looks like I'll have to apply myself to doing something sensible instead.....
Yeah, like DLG !
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on May 10, 2009, 17:24:48 PM
well its finally ready for its maiden flight the passer x is ready for take off just needs a nice gentle SW and away we go looking like NE all week though ?  :af
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on May 10, 2009, 17:30:37 PM
Yeah, like DLG !

This was at Thurnham yesterday, a guy from Essex was flying it and it flew really nice, I would like one, but need to fly better first.

Today was good at Minster I. O. Sheppey 16mph N/E, and I was the only one there, tee shirt weather, enjoyed it.



Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on May 10, 2009, 17:33:20 PM
well its finally ready for its maiden flight the passer x is ready for take off just needs a nice gentle SW and away we go looking like NE all week though ?  :af

That looks nice Colin, you should have come with it to I O Sheppey today.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 10, 2009, 19:23:40 PM

Today was good at Minster I. O. Sheppey 16mph N/E, and I was the only one there, tee shirt weather, enjoyed it.


good to gear some one was holding the fort, I've been breathing lead fumes this afternoon

here's my ballast set for the Cobra, fully loaded the model feels truly dangerous. I'm not sure I'll ever use the full load.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on May 10, 2009, 19:34:38 PM
Glad you got your ballast sorted - you won't regret it.  It is quite a lifty model, so it can take quite a bit, but I would start low and work up - you always have to land it!  I used to fly 4 or 5 in the better slope conditions, but more in theWelsh mega lift

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 10, 2009, 19:45:22 PM
Cheers Simon

Those three slugs on Friday made a real difference and spurred me into action, got to sort out the auto hookup for the wing connections next.

It scares me to think of flying it at say Beachy Head with a full load. Perhaps I'll do a trial run at Thurnham on the right day when it's deserted. I've noticed that it tends not to blow out there is it's SSW, so even though it might not work so well in lower winds, that bit of south seems to work better when it starts getting over 20mph.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on May 10, 2009, 19:47:03 PM
Thurnham would be s good place to try lots of ballast as it has a good landing area.  Don't try it at Holly!

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 10, 2009, 19:59:22 PM
Don't try it at Holly!

Simon

I'm not sure I'd even try it dry at Holly!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on May 10, 2009, 20:29:37 PM
good to gear some one was holding the fort, I've been breathing lead fumes this afternoon

here's my ballast set for the Cobra, fully loaded the model feels truly dangerous. I'm not sure I'll ever use the full load.
does that mean you can pull good square loops like simon t ?? colin :af
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on May 10, 2009, 20:53:39 PM
colin. thats a really pretty soarer you built. make sure you dont maiden it with Rob around. ;)
i'm now convinced that Rob is actually the  :ev

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on May 10, 2009, 20:59:22 PM
colin. thats a really pretty soarer you built. make sure you dont maiden it with Rob around. ;)
i'm now convinced that Rob is actually the  :ev



But the Devil had a PONY TAIL....look in the mirror.....and check your avitar...LOL :nananana:
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on May 10, 2009, 21:06:13 PM
I see another cracking video on the Goodwind site Paul.  I think you are in the wrong job, you should be a pro.  deserves a 'thanks'

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 10, 2009, 21:08:48 PM
does that mean you can pull good square loops like simon t ?? colin :af

a can say with some certainty that I'll never be able to do square loops quite like Mr T  :o
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 10, 2009, 21:13:11 PM
I see another cracking video on the Goodwind site Paul.  I think you are in the wrong job, you should be a pro.  deserves a 'thanks'

Simon

Glad you enjoyed it Simon, as always thanks for flying for the camera, perhaps next time I'll set myself up better for the square loops!! just wish I'd filmed and photographed more stuff over the years gone by, there's been so many interesting people and planes in the past that will now disappear into the mists of time.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on May 10, 2009, 21:16:06 PM
a can say with some certainty that I'll never be able to do square loops quite like Mr T  :o

I think you will do square loops like Simon, those shot gun cartridges you have just made mean you just pull the trigger at each point in the loop, if that fails you could always attach them to the end of my fishing rod for retrieving the tree planes.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 10, 2009, 21:20:34 PM
I think you will do square loops like Simon, those shot gun cartridges you have just made mean you just pull the trigger at each point in the loop, if that fails you could always attach them to the end of my fishing rod for retrieving the tree planes.

funnily enough lputting them into the plane is akin to loading a rifle, seems to add to the whole 'dangerous device' feel
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on May 10, 2009, 22:00:54 PM
funnily enough lputting them into the plane is akin to loading a rifle, seems to add to the whole 'dangerous device' feel
whatch out for pauls lethal weapon , just like the film full of action :af
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 10, 2009, 22:03:54 PM
whatch out for pauls lethal weapon , just like the film full of action :af

well I did, somehow, launch it into the deck 6ft infront of me yesterday (only damage was my pride) so it might end up as a very, very short film
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on May 10, 2009, 22:07:25 PM
cracking video paul are you sure you dont do it for a living ?? ;D
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 10, 2009, 22:22:01 PM
cracking video paul are you sure you dont do it for a living ?? ;D

really gives me a boost to know people are enjoying them Colin, we'll have to get some footage of the Swinger next time, should make for some good footage right on the lip there!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on May 10, 2009, 23:40:24 PM
Excellent stuff Paul, almost as enjoyable as being there ? not quite but keep up the good work  :af

Hooked a thermal off the flat with the DLG today, that's rather satisfying....mmmm.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 10, 2009, 23:48:43 PM
Excellent stuff Paul, almost as enjoyable as being there ? not quite but keep up the good work  :af

Hooked a thermal off the flat with the DLG today, that's rather satisfying....mmmm.

good stuff, a very rewarding experience glad to hear the Murphy is serving you well and you're getting out even when you can't 'get out'
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on May 10, 2009, 23:52:37 PM
My daughter was running herself ragged chasing the thing all round the playing field. She got a bit upset when I told her she couldn't have a go.....

An order for a free flight MPX fox is on the cards for this week I think.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 11, 2009, 08:17:28 AM
My daughter was running herself ragged chasing the thing all round the playing field. She got a bit upset when I told her she couldn't have a go.....

An order for a free flight MPX fox is on the cards for this week I think.

sounds promising  :)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on May 11, 2009, 08:23:43 AM
Gonna pop up Bopeep tonight after work about 5 ish looks like about a 30mph so could get interesting, and I'm trying out full 4 Axis flight on the bedlam could get broken  ;D
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 11, 2009, 08:42:54 AM
looks like you'll be spoilt for the coming week Allen
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on May 11, 2009, 11:09:08 AM
well its finally ready for its maiden flight the passer x is ready for take off just needs a nice gentle SW and away we go looking like NE all week though ?  :af

Colin you could bring that Passer X with you today at Minster, its ideal 30/40mph NE, my Wildthing would kill it stone dead.....if I could catch you!!!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on May 11, 2009, 11:38:53 AM
Any one else fancy a foam bumping session at Minster today, so far its John, Colin and myself, we will get there at 1.30/2.00pm  parking in Seathorpe Avenue car park F O C, avoid Imperial Avenue...the man in the bungalow is still not a happy bunny. :af
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on May 11, 2009, 11:46:53 AM
looks like you'll be spoilt for the coming week Allen

I think its raining all week except today  :'(

Have thought about TX in mitt and a plane that i dont care about  $%&
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 11, 2009, 12:02:03 PM
tawling the deep recesses of my memory, I recall models fly fine in the rain (I must have been really keen!)
and a plastic bag with hole for the aerial works well
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on May 11, 2009, 12:18:50 PM
Any one else fancy a foam bumping session at Minster today, so far its John, Colin and myself, we will get there at 1.30/2.00pm  parking in Seathorpe Avenue car park F O C, avoid Imperial Avenue...the man in the bungalow is still not a happy bunny. :af
:af ay rob your alula would  go good in this wind on sheppey sorry forgot your not very good at landing yet are you ??
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Mark 250 on May 11, 2009, 13:17:59 PM
Allen. May get up there myself this evening. Are you going to fly from the East slope? I doubt if there will be any hang glides up.
Mark J
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on May 11, 2009, 13:35:37 PM
Allen. May get up there myself this evening. Are you going to fly from the East slope? I doubt if there will be any hang glides up.
Mark J

I'm not sure
was thinking the west bowl as i can hide in the Pitts out of the wind
and there is no turbulence at the LZ

though its only the bedlam so I'm not to fussed, cant wait to see how i get on with this 4 Axis malarkey
Have taken all my models breaks off the throttle now, so i could remove the ratchet and add the spring back
I think the bedlams the best place to start, then the P6 and finish with the AJ  If all goes well  :af

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Mark 250 on May 11, 2009, 14:19:35 PM
Allen I think the west slope faces a bit further East,go past the bushes at the top of the hill by about 200m nice and open no turbulence but as you say no where to get out of the wind. put a note in you car and I'll try to find you.
Mark J
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on May 11, 2009, 16:49:44 PM
Well I now know what it is like to TRY and fly in 45/50mph winds with a Wildthing.....they don't like it!!

John did better than I did, it was a little better when I reduced the rates from 120 to 100 but they did not want to go forward very well.....I have now found out that 40mph is there tops.....Boy was that wind strong!! a good laugh though.

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on May 11, 2009, 19:08:03 PM
Well I now know what it is like to TRY and fly in 45/50mph winds with a Wildthing.....they don't like it!!

John did better than I did, it was a little better when I reduced the rates from 120 to 100 but they did not want to go forward very well.....I have now found out that 40mph is there tops.....Boy was that wind strong!! a good laugh though.


:af that was shear determination Rob like to see it a well commited glider flyer out  in all types of weather conditions trying to better themselves one day it will pay off im sure.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on May 11, 2009, 19:40:02 PM
Me and Mark had a good hours flight this eve, I think we both agreed that fun was not the word for it
once out it was not too bad but landing was INTERESTING
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on May 11, 2009, 20:10:41 PM
well, we definately found the wildthing's windspeed linit today. i think 50mph gusts just about top out the servicibility aspect of the wildthing. we tried and tried, but after 15mins the bloody thing still hadnt reached the high tide mark.

ah well!

2 things. Firstly, i got myself a Kunlun today. its the cmpro one that t'other Paul flys. I figured it woud be a better "next step" than jumping to a Blade or suchlike. Having the motor will help me out a lot i think, especially for a slippy sport type glider. (shivering memories of the ventus dropping below the skyline knowing its going to hurt still haunt me). Does anyone have Paul's email address, as i want his advice on the general build/setting up/Lipo etc etc?
anyhooo, as the rain is due over the next few days, i hope to finish the next project and get it up in the sky.

Also.... I have a SAS Venom for sale... 35mhz GWS reciever, servos and battery all in. Offers??

Its been flown by a few of the rabble. flys nice, i'm just not a flying wing lover.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on May 11, 2009, 20:42:39 PM
I've admired the Kunlun myself as a possible purchase and I finally saw one in the flesh at Thurnham, looks very nice.  (Admittedly a slightly dopey name - like so many of the best gliders! - apparently it's a high mountain range in Tibet or summat...)

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 11, 2009, 20:54:22 PM
Does anyone have Paul's email address,

Also.... I have a SAS Venom for sale... 35mhz GWS reciever, servos and battery all in. Offers??



John, you can get in touch with Paul via his youtube ac   YouTube - paulkazjack's Channel (http://www.youtube.com/user/paulkazjack)

I've been feeling I should get some rubber for those more crowded periods, what sort of price were you thinking of for the Venom? is it Alan's old one?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on May 11, 2009, 21:11:23 PM
I don't believe it, Paul W flying something rubbery?  Doesn't seem right somehow.  Maybe you could glass it.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on May 11, 2009, 21:21:59 PM
I agree, Paul and bouncy, chalk and cheese
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on May 11, 2009, 21:28:23 PM
Any day now Paul will turn up with one of those Chinese imitations of an Easyglider from Al's Hobbies and he'll say "Wow! This is great! I can't believe I ever bothered with mouldies. From now on I'm sticking with this!"
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on May 11, 2009, 21:37:28 PM
That's the way to go Paul, if you can't beat um!!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 11, 2009, 21:42:24 PM
 :embarassed:

haven't actually said I'll buy it yet....
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on May 11, 2009, 21:51:06 PM
:embarassed:

haven't actually said I'll buy it yet....

Don't let them put you off Paul....you can come to sheppey with the RABBLE tomorrow LOL
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on May 11, 2009, 21:53:30 PM
.....if foam is good enough for Mr. T.....

Mere mortals should be ok !
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on May 11, 2009, 22:34:08 PM
your be fine Paul you can let Rob give you some good tips on how to land.  :af
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on May 11, 2009, 22:54:44 PM
I think, like Paul, I'm having a bit of a funny turn: I found myself bidding on - and winning - a flying Pterosaur on Ebay.  What do I want with a 6-ft flying dinosaur for chrissakes?!  You just know it's the sort of thing that's not going to fly well!  And yet it just had to be got...
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on May 11, 2009, 23:22:01 PM
well its finally ready for its maiden flight the passer x is ready for take off just needs a nice gentle SW and away we go looking like NE all week though ?  :af

Good to see you've gone for the pure glider version, none of this twirly fan nonsense  ;)

I'll be interested to hear how it goes, keep us updated Colin.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Phil.Taylor on May 11, 2009, 23:59:07 PM
I think, like Paul, I'm having a bit of a funny turn: I found myself bidding on - and winning - a flying Pterosaur on Ebay.  What do I want with a 6-ft flying dinosaur for chrissakes?! 

Congrats - looked at those a few years ago - cool looking creatures
Didn't you get it for eating the Zagis?

US site doesn't seem to work anymore, but found this French one:
Ovirc.free.fr - le site des Objets Volants Insolites Radio Commandés (http://ovirc.free.fr/Pterosaures.php)

Phil
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 12, 2009, 07:50:22 AM
I think, like Paul, I'm having a bit of a funny turn: I found myself bidding on - and winning - a flying Pterosaur on Ebay.  What do I want with a 6-ft flying dinosaur for chrissakes?!  You just know it's the sort of thing that's not going to fly well!  And yet it just had to be got...


You'll need some hi torque servos for it Gary if I remember from the QFI review correctly
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on May 12, 2009, 09:07:14 AM
John, you can get in touch with Paul via his youtube ac   YouTube - paulkazjack's Channel ([url]http://www.youtube.com/user/paulkazjack[/url])

I've been feeling I should get some rubber for those more crowded periods, what sort of price were you thinking of for the Venom? is it Alan's old one?


yes, it is Alans old Venom. i havent done or changed anything to it so i  am looking for £40 all in (servos, battery, reciever), Unless you want to bid higher of course :D :af
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on May 12, 2009, 16:11:09 PM
Anyone fly at Minster today ? Pretty damn blowy where I am.....
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on May 12, 2009, 19:21:04 PM
Anyone fly at Minster today ? Pretty damn blowy where I am.....

It was the same here Deryck, blowing a hooligan, I stayed indoors and did the sort of stuff that other people do, roll on next week.

I test flew the Alula and got it trimmed out the other day at Thurnhan 15mph N/E, all was great until John stepped backwards onto its wing, I think he weighs about 30 stone..LOL, test flew it again and all was fine, might be next year before I can have a proper go with it, the weather sucks!!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on May 12, 2009, 19:31:22 PM
Stepping on someone's plane is punishable by ritual disembowelment.  Followed by some some faintly sarcastic comments about the person muttered under the breath.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on May 12, 2009, 20:42:50 PM
i thought it was a wasp and tried to kill it. i should of realised that wasps can actually fly though!  :af
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on May 12, 2009, 20:58:51 PM
i thought it was a wasp and tried to kill it. i should of realised that wasps can actually fly though!  :af

Don't paint that Kunlun Black and Yellow cos I weigh 40 stone, and i've got two HOOFS!!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on May 12, 2009, 21:02:02 PM
i wondered what was wrong!  :af
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on May 13, 2009, 17:28:08 PM
any of you chaps know the bets way i can reinforce the wings on my Kunlun?
cheers,
john
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on May 13, 2009, 17:34:14 PM
reinforce it for what john ?   Combat against the wildbunch?? :af or is it incase  Rob stands on it  ;D
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on May 13, 2009, 17:37:19 PM
ha, ah. yeah, summit like that. ive just been reading that due to the large rib spacings on the Kunlun's wing, it has a weak point just after the main spar stops. (short spar). this has a lot of load and has been known the crumple the spar under stress resulting in "handclap" wings.

PLus, combating of course :af
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on May 13, 2009, 17:42:12 PM
sorry John  not sure on that one i would probably say try not to give it too much stress in the firdt place no speed square loops ect.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 13, 2009, 19:05:29 PM
any of you chaps know the bets way i can reinforce the wings on my Kunlun?
cheers,
john

Paul ran some carbon rods down through the holes in the ribs with a bit of expoxy

Paul
(who's still thinking about being seen with a Venom)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on May 13, 2009, 19:16:10 PM
Paul ran some carbon rods down through the holes in the ribs with a bit of expoxy

Paul
(who's still thinking about being seen with a Venom)

Snob ! We all know you want one anyway ;)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Phil.Taylor on May 13, 2009, 19:22:48 PM
Paul
(who's still thinking about being seen with a Venom)
s'ok - its tail-less
Phil.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on May 13, 2009, 19:45:38 PM
Paul ran some carbon rods down through the holes in the ribs with a bit of expoxy

Paul
(who's still thinking about being seen with a Venom)

strangely, that was going to be my first choice, purely due to having a 1mtr length of 6mm solid carbon rod. well, thats decided then! now, where's my damm epoxy?

*whispers* Venom, Venom, Venom.. ooooohhh... aaaaaahh!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on May 13, 2009, 19:55:54 PM
 :D go on Paul you know you really really want it  :af
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on May 13, 2009, 19:58:17 PM
Regarding the Kunlun, the carbon rod sounds like a good plan ... but try not to make the Kunlun TOO heavy - apparently they have beefy tails and need a ton of weight in the nose, so if you add a whole load of solid rod and epoxy to the wing, Thurnham will never have enough lift to fly it, you'll have to go down to the South Downs to get the thing airbourne!

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on May 13, 2009, 20:14:22 PM
Paul ran some carbon rods down through the holes in the ribs with a bit of expoxy

Paul
(who's still thinking about being seen with a Venom)

I know how to get Paul to buy the Venom.

That Simon is fantastic at flying his wing, and Oh Boy do they have fun with them!!

That should do the trick John
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 13, 2009, 20:38:25 PM
Snob ! We all know you want one anyway ;)

what ever you do, don't tell 'em about me and your easy glider  :-X
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on May 14, 2009, 10:12:04 AM
At last the weather looks good for Thurnham Friday from 1pm :xx
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on May 14, 2009, 10:21:46 AM
Bloody Friday slackers !

My pass is only valid for Saturday :(
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: dannym2000 on May 14, 2009, 11:36:46 AM
Hi all..... first post from me.... I'm a relatively new glider pilot, based in Hove, though working in London.
I'm currently flying:
an E-Flite Ascent 450 brushless power glider - being fixed after I stacked it into the hill at Fairlight Firehills in a 30mph last weekend.
A ST Models semi scale foamie ASW-28 - that my missus bought me for my birthday without consulting me.... I would have prefered the CP Models one or something moulded! (the thought was nice though)
A SAS Fusion 60, which is only just set up on my DX6i and I intend to maiden tomorrow at Mill Hill, Shoreham.... come and slap me out of the sky if anyone's in the vicinity, it looks like Friday will be the best day for a while for a good dry SW'erly.
I have a few vids on Youtube under the user name dannym2000 if anyone's interested, and a recent facebook group for Brighton area flyers called 'Sloping Off', which is exactly what i intend to be doing tomorrow!
All the best to all the SE Flyers crew. Much respect to the Goodwind chap!....great blog site and vids.
Dan
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on May 14, 2009, 13:30:10 PM
Welcome to the forum. 

What are the Fire Hills like to fly at?  Are you using the cliffs or bowls back from the cliffs?  I've heard of it as a flying spot and keep meaning to check it out but I've never flown there.

I bet you enjoy the Fusion 60.  I think the trick to having it fly well is to make sure the 'elevator' throws are smaller than the 'aileron' throws.  My elevator throws are only one third of my aileron throws.  Also, mine flew badly at first until I realised I had the c of g too far back.

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: dannym2000 on May 14, 2009, 14:56:00 PM
Welcome to the forum. 

What are the Fire Hills like to fly at?  Are you using the cliffs or bowls back from the cliffs?  I've heard of it as a flying spot and keep meaning to check it out but I've never flown there.

I bet you enjoy the Fusion 60.  I think the trick to having it fly well is to make sure the 'elevator' throws are smaller than the 'aileron' throws.  My elevator throws are only one third of my aileron throws.  Also, mine flew badly at first until I realised I had the c of g too far back.




The firehills are excellent acually, I was in Hastings with family, and it was blowing a big SSW, so i took a look at the maps, and had seen on generaltomfoolery that they were a good spot. here's the link to exactly where I was: Google Maps (http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?ie=UTF8&ll=50.869556,0.642014&spn=0.003148,0.006984&t=h&z=17)

You park in the Hastings Coutry park carpark, and then take a short walk towards the radar tower you can see towards the coast, when you get to the coastguard building you turn right, cross the scrub area, and there are some look out points to launch from, the slope below is accesible, so if you do ditch, you can retrieve, which is nice. There were a host of gulls and buzzards enjoying the lift, and it was a cool place to fly. there's a short vid of me soaring there at: YouTube - E-Flite Ascent 450 brushless slope soaring (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojwNGlEJMWI)

I set up the Fusion excatly as you have suggested, so really looking forward to chucking it tomorrow at Mill Hill! Woop woop!

Dan
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on May 14, 2009, 16:05:06 PM
 ;D ay weasels on its way from the south coast had an e/mail from Michael posted it yesterday, looking good huston. tommorow could be the big day for the Passer x if conditions are right , and no combating it please lads ;) should be a few new models floating about after a week of not being able to fly might even see concorde ?? wonder if Rob will make an appearance thats if he can remember how to get there? see you all Friday
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on May 14, 2009, 16:16:26 PM
;D ay weasels on its way from the south coast had an e/mail from Michael posted it yesterday, looking good huston. tommorow could be the big day for the Passer x if conditions are right , and no combating it please lads ;) should be a few new models floating about after a week of not being able to fly might even see concorde ?? wonder if Rob will make an appearance thats if he can remember how to get there? see you all Friday

Billy NO Mates has been up there today.....Alula'ing didn't stay long no wind...see ya moro!! we will smack that there Passer x, and watch Johns feet.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 14, 2009, 16:24:59 PM
;D ay weasels on its way from the south coast had an e/mail from Michael posted it yesterday

look forward to seeing that Colin, looks like such a well designed package
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on May 14, 2009, 16:29:56 PM
rather lucky to get it Paul as they nearly lost their home and business due to the recent fire
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on May 14, 2009, 16:32:25 PM
Billy NO Mates has been up there today.....Alula'ing didn't stay long no wind...see ya moro!! we will smack that there Passer x, and watch Johns feet.
;DI would!nt say billy no mates Rob you must have at least 1 mate somewhere? :nananana: :af
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Mark 250 on May 14, 2009, 17:08:56 PM
Hi Dan.
So you're a "South" South East Flyer as opposed to a "East"  South East Flyer. You're spoilt for choice of slope down here. I'm out at Ringmer so tend to fly Firle,LongMan, Caburn and Butts which covers about every wind direction. There all about 20-30 minutes from Hove so hope to see you out and about. Plenty of chance for a couple of hours in the evenings now. I'm in the middle of redecorating the glider hanger, otherwise known as the spare bedroom so need a few evenings to finish that off.
Good luck with the Fusion, as said keep the elevator throws low till you get use to it.
Mark J
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on May 14, 2009, 20:38:07 PM
I'm also a sort of "south" rather than "southeast" flyer I guess.  I live on the southern edge of London so the quickest slopes for me to get to are the ones on the South Downs near the M23, ie the same slopes you mention.

Although sometimes to meet up with other guys on this forum I head east to Castle Hill in Kent, or further along the A27 to Long Man etc. 

I reckon the slopes I've had the best flying at (in no particular order) are Firle, Bopeep, Beachy Head, Mill Hill, Long Man and Harting Down.  The usual suspects really.  (Except perhaps Harting Down, which is less well known and too far west for me to go to very often).











Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: tp2fly on May 14, 2009, 21:29:37 PM
Hi Guys!  The Concordes finished at last!  I will do the test glides at Thurnham possibly tomorrow if the winds SW as you lot say.
Trying to figure out the cg at the mo.  I think it is somewhere about 52% back from the start of the wing leading edge at the root. Lots of trial and error I think, hopefully more trial than error!  :D
 I wont be able to make it untill about six onwards due to work.

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on May 14, 2009, 21:36:52 PM
Work?.......Friday?????   Me know not of what you speak young man.

Chuck a sickie. Lob yerself up the slope and chuck the "corde" off. Nuff said!

See ya there. :co

Hopefully the Kunlun will have her maiden on Saturday!! :D
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on May 14, 2009, 21:38:12 PM
The c of g can be tricky to work out on these steep deltas, as I'm sure you know.  One tip is to run with it without letting go - if it feels like it wants to nose up, move the c of g forward.  At least that's what the instructions say for a model I'm building.  I guess it's better than just hurling it and hoping for the best.

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on May 14, 2009, 21:39:30 PM

were look forward to seing concorde fly be a few on maiden flights catch you later
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on May 14, 2009, 21:45:00 PM
Work?.......Friday?????   Me know not of what you speak young man.

Chuck a sickie. Lob yerself up the slope and chuck the "corde" off. Nuff said!

See ya there. :co

Hopefully the Kunlun will have her maiden on Saturday!! :D
shall i keep the jinx  (Rob) out the way  ;D
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: tp2fly on May 14, 2009, 21:47:25 PM
Work?.......Friday?????   Me know not of what you speak young man.

Chuck a sickie. Lob yerself up the slope and chuck the "corde" off. Nuff said!

See ya there. :co

Hopefully the Kunlun will have her maiden on Saturday!! :D

Id love to chuck a sickie j.smack, but im too honest and a bad liar!  ;D
Will have lots of time off soon though, quit my job in two weeks!  :D

Cant wait to see your Kunlun, weve got one in the shop ive been eyeing up. Looks great. Looks very similar to the other one we have called an Alps.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on May 14, 2009, 21:47:47 PM
Hi Guys!  The Concordes finished at last!  I will do the test glides at Thurnham possibly tomorrow if the winds SW as you lot say.
Trying to figure out the cg at the mo.  I think it is somewhere about 52% back from the start of the wing leading edge at the root. Lots of trial and error I think, hopefully more trial than error!  :D
 I wont be able to make it untill about six onwards due to work.



Have you got a 3 view of a real concorde - The CG will be a lttle way in front of the main wheels - on concorde the wheels retract sideways, and so I would start with the CG a short distance in front of the 'front edge' of the undercarriage doors.  The real concorde has a variable CG, moving fuel backwards for supersonic flight then back forwards for landing

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on May 14, 2009, 21:52:27 PM
shall i keep the jinx  (Rob) out the way  ;D

I will be there.....Camera ready :af
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: tp2fly on May 14, 2009, 21:53:09 PM
Thanks Simon.  Ill have a look. I built my model from a 3 view of the real Concorde!  Built a small chuckie version and got the cg spot on as it glided lovely , so will prob copy that cg position to the bigger one.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on May 14, 2009, 21:54:50 PM
Thanks Simon.  Ill have a look. I built my model from a 3 view of the real Concorde!  Built a small chuckie version and got the cg spot on as it glided lovely , so will prob copy that cg position to the bigger one.

Thats sensible - I'm sure you wont be too far away.  Is the wing built flat or have you built curvature and reflex in?

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Spoons on May 14, 2009, 21:56:56 PM
Digressing a little bit from concorde.
I'm off to Blandford Forum next week with work, but was wondering if there are any slopes around there that would be good for a thrash around with say a skorpion and a zagi ?

Preferably somewhere that has a decent LZ for a model like the Skorp.
Ta
John
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: tp2fly on May 14, 2009, 21:57:23 PM
I was going to build a flat wing, but decided to put a curvature on it and the elevons will be slightly up.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on May 14, 2009, 22:00:29 PM
sounds good.  Thurnhams probably a good place for test glides, but suffers from too little slope angle to get a good 'wind-to-lift' ratio.  Sounds like one for Beachy Head!

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on May 14, 2009, 22:02:04 PM
I think Win Green is not too far from Blandford.  Your also not too far from the purbecks - see my map in the flying near Poole thread

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Spoons on May 14, 2009, 22:07:40 PM
Maybe I could get the swillers out for an evening of flying at the MVSA field as that's maybe not too far away either.
I'll have a look at the map later got RDS to figure out !

Cheers for that
Jon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: tp2fly on May 14, 2009, 22:08:00 PM
sounds good.  Thurnhams probably a good place for test glides, but suffers from too little slope angle to get a good 'wind-to-lift' ratio.  Sounds like one for Beachy Head!

Simon

I agree, will probably only stay in the air at the South coast sites, but Thurnham is great for test glides as there is so much area at the back of the slope.

By the way dont get too excited guys, it probably wont fly!  ::)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on May 14, 2009, 22:38:48 PM
That's why we're excited - the drama!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: tp2fly on May 14, 2009, 22:49:49 PM
"Speedbird 001 you are cleared for take off on runway SW Thurnham, heading.............downwards! "   ;D
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Phil.Taylor on May 14, 2009, 23:38:11 PM
I'm off to Blandford Forum next week with work, but was wondering if there are any slopes around there that would be good for a thrash around with say a skorpion and a zagi ?
(edit - my bad - seems there is!)
anyhow - the badger beer there is good stuff
or skip the beer & head for the purbecks
or go purbecks & come back for beer?
Phil
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Leebert on May 15, 2009, 07:43:36 AM
Digressing a little bit from concorde.
I'm off to Blandford Forum next week with work, but was wondering if there are any slopes around there that would be good for a thrash around with say a skorpion and a zagi ?

Preferably somewhere that has a decent LZ for a model like the Skorp.
Ta
John


Not long come back from that neck of the woods. Was going to go to Kimmeridge but ended up at Bulbarrow (about 3 miles west of Blandford) after a last minute change. Not the best LZ but the mate I was with was having no trouble with a Tragi.
Popped over to Kimmeridge on the Monday just gone and can only say wow, what a slope. Alas, the wind was about as far off as possible (like 180deg off!). Maybe I should have had my first go at DSing the Wild thing  :o Sadly, I suspect that would have meant a boat trip into the Channel to retrieve it!
Simon_t did me a good map in my "Sloping near Poole" thread - Sloping around near Poole? (http://www.rcmf.co.uk/4um/index.php/topic,50606.0.html)
Cheers
Lee
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on May 15, 2009, 19:48:56 PM
You slackers all still on the hill then ? Awfully quiet round here............
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Russell on May 15, 2009, 20:00:53 PM
I doubt it. It's peeing it down here!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Leebert on May 15, 2009, 20:15:54 PM
raining here too :(
I have hopes for a local jaunt to Colley Hill tomorrow :)  :xx

Cheers,
Lee
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on May 15, 2009, 20:18:50 PM
We've all been mesmerised watching Paul_W flying foamie combat.  Think he's hooked.  Rain hasn't quite hit thurnham, but any moment...
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on May 15, 2009, 20:36:17 PM
We've all been mesmerised watching Paul_W flying foamie combat.  Think he's hooked.  Rain hasn't quite hit thurnham, but any moment...

Oh my God, he's on the turn !
He'll be buying a Wildthing next...
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on May 15, 2009, 20:47:08 PM
I think it was a borrowed wildthing he was flying.  There was talk of 'taste for blood', etc...  And there was contact on more than one occasion.  I think NSEW was taking some photos of a pilot deep in concentration, so they may be up on here later!

And Paul flew his Cobra with 6 lead slugs in.  He has definitely been eating too much red meat of late   :)

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Spoons on May 15, 2009, 20:52:43 PM
I was in shock.
I thought that the skorpion would of been the highlight, but oh no Paul had to go and fly combat ! ;D
Next time Simon were not going to play fair !
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 15, 2009, 21:23:57 PM

And Paul flew his Cobra with 6 lead slugs in.


that was a bit of a let down actually (a bit of a mis-measure on my part) it was fine on three slugs but 6 brought the cg forward noticably and made me stodge around like an old fart. I'll have to make up a little spacer at the rear to replace the full depth one so the load sits further back.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 15, 2009, 21:25:12 PM
I think it was a borrowed wildthing he was flying. 

Thanks again Colin, it has got a lovely roll
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 15, 2009, 21:28:12 PM

Next time Simon we're not going to play fair !

Woosies! don't try spinning that one, you were playing as hard as you could!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Spoons on May 15, 2009, 21:37:59 PM
 ;D well ok we were full on, just that the lift was pants !
If the lift had been stonking we wouldn't of been anywhere near you  ;)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on May 15, 2009, 21:48:07 PM
I think it was a borrowed wildthing he was flying.  There was talk of 'taste for blood', etc...  And there was contact on more than one occasion.  I think NSEW was taking some photos of a pilot deep in concentration, so they may be up on here later!

And Paul flew his Cobra with 6 lead slugs in.  He has definitely been eating too much red meat of late   :)

Simon

Foam is in fashion introducing THE FOAM GANG :af

Check out Paul's face, he does seem to be enjoying it, they all do!! FOAM ROCKS!



Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on May 15, 2009, 21:52:18 PM
Now for the maiden of CONCORDE..........SHE FLY's !!

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on May 15, 2009, 21:53:57 PM
Now for the maiden of CONCORDE..........SHE FLY's !!



Way to go!  Congratulations, looks great   :uk:

Did it stay up?

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: tp2fly on May 15, 2009, 22:04:38 PM
 :D Wahay!  She flew!  Slowly sunk to the ground but she flew!  Thanks for all your help guys especially thanks to Paul W who retrieved it for me three times from the bottom of the slope!
  Needed a little nose weight for stable flight but didnt stay up very long. Will probably fly better at the South Downs on a big slope.

Although the lift at Thurnham was gradually disappearing and changing direction!

All in all it flew fairly well but being a true to scale wing shape and size it needs big lift.

But it looked great in the air! :)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: tp2fly on May 15, 2009, 23:08:37 PM
A little off topic but check this out! 

YouTube - EASY RISER POWERED HANG GLIDER FLYING (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zg6gBol2MbY)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 16, 2009, 07:35:28 AM

  Needed a little nose weight for stable flight but didnt stay up very long. Will probably fly better at the South Downs on a big slope.


I think you'll get away with it at Thurnham on the right day Trevor. It looked a lot more solid with the extra nose weight, but the wind was very south. I'm looking forward to seeing it in action on a good day
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on May 16, 2009, 09:27:56 AM
Again Rob, Those are some nifty pics. It really pains me to say it but they are Good. Especially the last one. It actually looks like Concorde over Thurnham. lol.

You and Paul w should team up and create a media company, "stills+motion" or summit!!

*J.smack gently polishes his Venom,before nudging it playfully under Paul's nose*

Oh! reading that back, sounds TOTALLY WRONG! hahahahahaha :embarassed:
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on May 16, 2009, 09:36:16 AM
Big Congrats on the "corde" Tp2fly. Must be a great feeling.  :uk:
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Mike_Y on May 16, 2009, 09:48:51 AM
The Concorde looks brill  :af , unusual PSS, congrates on the maiden.

Cobra pilot..I'm sure I've seen some Cobra pieces on Ebay this week, might be work a look for some spares?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: dannym2000 on May 16, 2009, 10:08:35 AM
Foam is in fashion introducing THE FOAM GANG :af

Check out Paul's face, he does seem to be enjoying it, they all do!! FOAM ROCKS!





Where's the Foam Gang flying today?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: tp2fly on May 16, 2009, 10:13:43 AM
Thanks guys.   It would be great if Connie flew well at Thurnham in the right conditions .  :)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on May 16, 2009, 11:42:55 AM
Again Rob, Those are some nifty pics. It really pains me to say it but they are Good. Especially the last one. It actually looks like Concorde over Thurnham. lol.

You and Paul w should team up and create a media company, "stills+motion" or summit!!

*J.smack gently polishes his Venom,before nudging it playfully under Paul's nose*

Oh! reading that back, sounds TOTALLY WRONG! hahahahahaha :embarassed:
ay it will be a toss up between a wild thing and venom paul flew mine yesterday.. colin
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on May 16, 2009, 11:45:26 AM
did yo get your motor sorted for your Kunlun John ?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Spoons on May 16, 2009, 11:58:15 AM
Seems that the cobra spares on fleabay are just V tails, 25 quid for a pair though, maybe worth it, but then again aircraft dont tend to crash backwards.
Unless your a twonk like me and trap your v's in the car door  :'(

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on May 16, 2009, 12:13:16 PM
but then again aircraft dont tend to crash backwards.

Or someone flies into the back of your cobra after you have just landed, in round 1 of a two round fly-off   >:(

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Spoons on May 16, 2009, 12:42:27 PM
I wouldn't have the fossiest idea who you are talking about ?

Now that I am home time to get cracking on the lift !
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on May 16, 2009, 14:25:16 PM
Just got back from Thurnam, its great if you fancy a 45mph SW blow in the gusts, Paulw and Deryck are flying there mouldies and a Windrider fox, its a little turbulent too, my Wildthing flew OK but I was getting blown backwards a bit.

As I left there were two full size gliders very low over the slope and I saw Deryck with the Fox going to join them, I might try again later on when the blow has dropped a little, If you go take your wind-proofs!!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on May 16, 2009, 17:50:49 PM
How was the air at Thurnham this afternoon?

I flew at the slope at Warlingham because it's only a 15 minute drive, but it was awfully gusty.  The wind meter was varying wildly between 12 and 30 mph.  I flew the Jart for a while but decided to land it before I smashed it, it was being tossed around like a butterfly.  So I stuck to flying the Fusion EPP wing.

What I'm trying to figure out is: what were the proper slopes like at the same time? ie is it worth driving an hour to a good slope or 15 min to a second-rate slope? 
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Spoons on May 16, 2009, 19:51:11 PM

What I'm trying to figure out is: what were the proper slopes like at the same time? ie is it worth driving an hour to a good slope or 15 min to a second-rate slope? 


What I am trying to figure out is what one of these is Thurnham ?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on May 16, 2009, 20:27:06 PM
Heh heh ... Thurham is a proper slope ... maybe towards the bottom of the PSL (Proper Slope League) ... but not in danger of being relegated ...
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Spoons on May 16, 2009, 20:52:44 PM
I would rather drive 4 hours to a Proper slope (bwlch) then a couple of hours to a second rate slope.
But if it were a choice between an hour long car journey for 10 mins on a decent slope, or a 15 min journey to a second rate slope and spend and hour there I would rather go to the second rate slope for longer !

Having said that, my skorp did scream around the sky at thurnham on friday afternoon even when the wind was very easterly !
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 16, 2009, 21:00:55 PM

Cobra pilot..I'm sure I've seen some Cobra pieces on Ebay this week, might be work a look for some spares?

Thanks for that Mike, Deryck gave me a heads up on that one earlier in the week. I have since been assured there is a veritable graveyard of Cobra spares not a million miles from my door step.....
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 16, 2009, 21:04:26 PM
How was the air at Thurnham this afternoon?


I'm sure Deryck will fill you in, but it wasn't musch fun at Thurnham til much later in the afternoon. Most of my morning comprised laying down out of the wind by the fence line, watching the full size action and getting my ears sun burnt
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Leebert on May 16, 2009, 21:06:24 PM
I too would rather drive that bit further for a cracking days flying but, if like today, time is not on my side, then an afternoon at a local slope is the way to go.
I couldn't go too far today and ended up at Colley Hill. It was too blowy and gusty to fly the mouldie for me but the Wildthing was good though and some combat fun was had :)

Cheers
Lee
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on May 16, 2009, 21:06:58 PM
I have since been assured there is a veritable graveyard of Cobra spares not a million miles from my door step.....

As long as you crash right side down   ;)

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 16, 2009, 21:14:34 PM
As long as you crash right side down   ;)

Simon

It's OK, I've set up a 'Cobra crash' memory on my tranny. In the event of an impending disaster I flick a switch and get full left crow and left rudder thus 'presenting' the right side of the airframe to terra firma in readiness for the 'arrival'.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 16, 2009, 21:20:27 PM

*J.smack gently polishes his Venom,before nudging it playfully under Paul's nose*


Hmmm that's some impressive rubbing going on there Mr Smack, perhaps I could sample the goods tomorrow afternoon? looks like it could be OK for Thurnham, but will confirm tomorrow morning.

Paul
(who has no intention of buying anything, rather just work his way round programming everyone else's model into his tranny so he never has to bring his own stuff up the hill again)

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on May 16, 2009, 21:30:30 PM
Hmmm that's some impressive rubbing going on there Mr Smack, perhaps I could sample the goods tomorrow afternoon? looks like it could be OK for Thurnham, but will confirm tomorrow morning.

Paul
(who has no intention of buying anything, rather just work his way round programming everyone else's model into his tranny so he never has to bring his own stuff up the hill again)



Paul there is NO SHAME....I am sure that you are aware that there were 4 full size glider pilots flying foam at Thurnham today  :af
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 16, 2009, 21:35:02 PM
Paul there is NO SHAME

that's waht Deryck was saying a few weeks back, and the had a good laugh today at the thought of me and a Venom  ::)

(thanks for the filthy reading material by the way Rob)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on May 16, 2009, 21:41:03 PM
*sulk* *kicks Venom around whilst muttering obsenities at it, whilst the dog decides i've gone mad and wanders up to a sprouting plant with aq full bladder!*

Im will probably be hitting Thurnham regardless tomorrow Paul, due to the fact i really need to to maiden the Kunlun, and especially as Rob is going to see "rhydian" in concert" ( how the mighty fall eh?) which means i may get a fair crack at trimming it out without having " you will crash that any second","thats going home in a bin bag", "go on chuck it, it's only 50mph gusts", "she's a pretty plane, lemme get a pic whilst it's in one piece", " "i'm telling you, the lift is great, they only crashed because they are crap", "let's see ya break it then". etc etc

anyhoo, managed to reverse the pin on my e-flight motor at last. i couldnt get an allen key to fit at all.  turns out, its not 1.5 mm or 5/64 but in fact 1/16th.

typically bloody Yank company! grrrr
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on May 16, 2009, 21:50:38 PM
*sulk* *kicks Venom around whilst muttering obsenities at it, whilst the dog decides i've gone mad and wanders up to a sprouting plant with aq full bladder!*

Im will probably be hitting Thurnham regardless tomorrow Paul, due to the fact i really need to to maiden the Kunlun, and especially as Rob is going to see "rhydian" in concert" ( how the mighty fall eh?) which means i may get a fair crack at trimming it out without having " you will crash that any second","thats going home in a bin bag", "go on chuck it, it's only 50mph gusts", "she's a pretty plane, lemme get a pic whilst it's in one piece", " "i'm telling you, the lift is great, they only crashed because they are crap", "let's see ya break it then". etc etc

anyhoo, managed to reverse the pin on my e-flight motor at last. i couldnt get an allen key to fit at all.  turns out, its not 1.5 mm or 5/64 but in fact 1/16th.

I reckon the Kunlun will do about the same as the UK in the Euro vision :xx Lets hope they do well John Boy!!

typically bl**dy Yank company! grrrr
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 16, 2009, 21:55:48 PM

Im will probably be hitting Thurnham regardless tomorrow Paul


good stuff, I'm aiming for the afternoon if that works for you
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on May 16, 2009, 22:56:20 PM
 ;D might be up to fly later in the afternoon  ;)gonna colect my Flamingo from Rugby in the morning, need a bigger hanger
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on May 16, 2009, 23:00:29 PM
;D might be up to fly later in the afternoon  ;)gonna colect my Flamingo from Rugby in the morning, need a bigger hanger

Well done on buying the Flamingo Collin, I look forward to having a go.....I will be up for a short while in the morning.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on May 16, 2009, 23:02:41 PM
Well done on buying the Flamingo Collin, I look forward to having a go.....I will be up for a short while in the morning.
yeah you can have a go Rob just a small deposit required , your car will do
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on May 17, 2009, 00:20:07 AM
How was the air at Thurnham this afternoon?

I flew at the slope at Warlingham because it's only a 15 minute drive, but it was awfully gusty.  The wind meter was varying wildly between 12 and 30 mph.  I flew the Jart for a while but decided to land it before I smashed it, it was being tossed around like a butterfly.  So I stuck to flying the Fusion EPP wing.

What I'm trying to figure out is: what were the proper slopes like at the same time? ie is it worth driving an hour to a good slope or 15 min to a second-rate slope? 


Rubbish !

You didn't miss much Gary, Thurnham was blown out. More air going horizontally than vertically. The hill profile just doesn't seem to support winds speeds over 15 to 20 mph very well. And very gusty and turbulent with too much south in it.

Keep an eye out for a possible Beachy day - I need some premier lift !

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on May 17, 2009, 00:28:33 AM
Im will probably be hitting Thurnham regardless tomorrow Paul, due to the fact i really need to to maiden the Kunlun, and especially as Rob is going to see "rhydian" in concert" ( how the mighty fall eh?)

Enjoy the concert Rob !  ;) ;)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: tp2fly on May 17, 2009, 00:28:58 AM
Hi fellas.  Does anyone have any video footage of my concorde yet?  Flew quite well today (Saturday) .  :)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on May 17, 2009, 08:44:58 AM
thats a nice pic of Rhydian for ya Rob. I bet your lapping him up aint ya? bet you didn't get much sleep last night  what with all the excitement. :af

Plus we came 5th in Eurohorrorvision so stick that up your bracket.  :nananana:
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on May 17, 2009, 10:23:53 AM
thats a nice pic of Rhydian for ya Rob. I bet your lapping him up aint ya? bet you didn't get much sleep last night  what with all the excitement. :af

Plus we came 5th in Eurohorrorvision so stick that up your bracket.  :nananana:

That means you get 5 good flights......THEN YOU KNOW WHAT!!! :'(
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on May 17, 2009, 10:34:07 AM
Enjoy the concert Rob !  ;) ;)

The best thing about this concert is....it keeps her indoors happy, and I will have my ipod + sleeping pills!! :study:
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on May 17, 2009, 11:28:12 AM
it's had 2 flights this morning. so i guess i got 3 left then  :nananana:
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on May 17, 2009, 13:08:19 PM
it's had 2 flights this morning. so i guess i got 3 left then  :nananana:

Blimey, that must have been an early start for you - did you cr@p the bed ? ;);)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 17, 2009, 13:25:48 PM
it's had 2 flights this morning. so i guess i got 3 left then  :nananana:

John, what time do you want to meet up there this afternoon?

I was thinking of getting up the hill about 4-4.30ish with hope that the wind will start easing off
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on May 17, 2009, 16:16:46 PM
Blimey, that must have been an early start for you - did you cr@p the bed ? ;);)

John was up there early to avoid me, I went up for a couple of hours, Alan and the other Paul were up there flying there big jobs, they were flying very well, but it was a bit bumpy and blowing a good un!!

I'm now off to the silly concert grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! needs must.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on May 17, 2009, 21:16:33 PM
 ;D well guess what i got today and its not for combat  :co all i need now is a ff7 any offers ??
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on May 17, 2009, 21:23:32 PM
oooooooh! Now that looks sweeeet! go on, chuck it! ( couldnt help it. robs at rhydian.... lol)

everythings for combat Colin, sometimes not knowingly though  ;)

nice purchase matey.  ;D
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on May 17, 2009, 21:27:35 PM
thanks have to keep Rob away tomorrow puts the kiss of death on things bless him, you know he is a big fan of meridian ? :banghead: how did the Kunlin go?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Spoons on May 17, 2009, 21:37:37 PM
;D well guess what i got today and its not for combat  :co all i need now is a ff7 any offers ??

PM Sent regarding radio.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on May 17, 2009, 21:40:46 PM
Kunlin flew ok. It's one of those models that needs a bit of work trimming properly, (for example....manuals c of g is 52-55m, mines at 59 and is still nose heavy on the dive test. i spoke to Paul and his is back at 85 ish. Now thats a BIG shift of weight ... 33mm?
anyway, it flew straight and steady in a crappy south easterly off thurnham with gusts, so im pleased so far!! haha. I think wednesday is supposed to be great weather so cant wait till then to give it a full "dial in" ( ooh i sound like paul w  ???) when i say Dial in, i mean throw lead on it until it flys straightish. then take it off.....then put it back on.....then take a bit off. then add 100gms, then rebuild it! lol
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on May 17, 2009, 21:49:12 PM
might be up flying pm tomorrow see you then :af
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: tp2fly on May 17, 2009, 21:53:07 PM
Nice glider Colin :)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on May 18, 2009, 07:51:37 AM
come on then Rob..... How was Rhyddledeedoodar? ;)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on May 18, 2009, 07:53:22 AM
come on then Rob..... How was Rhyddledeedoodar? ;)

All I can say is >:( :( :embarassed: :-\ :'( :ev :'' :banghead:
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on May 18, 2009, 08:02:24 AM
you didnt miss anything on the slope. wind got worse then it rained etc etc etc .

Wednesday looks to be be only day this week to fly ( unless you love rain) >:(
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on May 18, 2009, 08:20:16 AM
I'll be there today, I've got to give Simon some lead to add to all that fibre glass he has whacked in that tip stall-er, (I mean Discus), and I want to see Collins Flamingo fly, it looks nice, hope it's not got too much balsa.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 18, 2009, 08:43:05 AM
Hi fellas.  Does anyone have any video footage of my concorde yet?  Flew quite well today (Saturday) .  :)

I'll try and sort something over the next few days Trev
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: tp2fly on May 18, 2009, 18:36:17 PM
Cheers Paul  :)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: tp2fly on May 18, 2009, 18:38:45 PM
Paul, you been up the slope today?  Was thinking of going in a minute but too tired today!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 18, 2009, 19:08:57 PM
Paul, you been up the slope today?  Was thinking of going in a minute but too tired today!

Afraid not, been tied up with work and it's still a bit blowy. I holding out for later in the week but I've got a few nasty deadlines to hit in the meantime.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: tp2fly on May 18, 2009, 19:14:52 PM
Ah well. Just remember its paying for your model flying!  :)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 18, 2009, 20:12:07 PM
here's a little something to brighten up your evening instead...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxesMCbvmVg
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: tp2fly on May 18, 2009, 20:19:46 PM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D Thats so funny!   Ill have to do a better flight next time!   :af
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on May 18, 2009, 20:26:45 PM
The encouraging thing is that you can see it fly level, maybe even climb for a short while, so it will definitely stay up if you get a good day.  You need to be really careful with a highly swept delta that you don't hang on the up, as they become very draggy very quickly.  If you can find that speed sweet spot, that is going to be one awesome model, which will have every one stopping to watch (even Paul W will stop combatting  :)).

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 18, 2009, 20:26:53 PM
yeah, we'll get some more 'sustained' flight sequences if the wind plays ball
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 18, 2009, 20:28:43 PM
(even Paul W will stop combatting  :)).


might not  ;D

I think Trevor had more joy with it on Saturday when there was more lift
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: tp2fly on May 18, 2009, 20:32:42 PM
Yep....had a ten minute flight with it on Saturday.  The wind was more in the right direction and strong.  Glad it flies at Thurnham!  :)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on May 18, 2009, 21:18:29 PM
I see Paul's made it to WinCo   ;copper;

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: tp2fly on May 18, 2009, 21:22:48 PM
Tally Ho!  ;copper;
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 18, 2009, 21:30:23 PM
I see Paul's made it to WinCo   ;copper;

Simon

I've done what?  $%&
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 18, 2009, 21:31:36 PM
oh I see!

well you never know, we might catch up with those 'proper cornish slopers'
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on May 18, 2009, 22:27:42 PM
here's a little something to brighten up your evening instead...

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxesMCbvmVg[/url]
:af good one Paul like the soundtrack
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 19, 2009, 08:01:11 AM
:af good one Paul like the soundtrack

thanks Colin, hopefully the Youtube Copyright Nazis won't pick it up
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on May 19, 2009, 12:30:09 PM
Guess what arrived in the post today  ;D
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on May 19, 2009, 12:32:01 PM
Guess what arrived in the post today  ;D

I WANT FIRST SHOUT WHEN YOU GET BORED COLLIN!!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 19, 2009, 12:41:10 PM
that'll be another model I'll have to programme into my transmitter then ^-^
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on May 19, 2009, 12:48:27 PM
that'll be another model I'll have to programme into my transmitter then ^-^
your gonna need a bigger transmitter soon :co you up flying this aft????
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 19, 2009, 12:52:20 PM
your gonna need a bigger transmitter soon :co you up flying this aft????

I've got 99 memories, so hopefully I'll be ok

don't think I'll be out this afternoon Colin, should think you'll be up there maidening that there weasel won't you?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on May 19, 2009, 12:55:12 PM
no not today paul
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on May 19, 2009, 13:01:06 PM
I've got 99 memories, so hopefully I'll be ok

don't think I'll be out this afternoon Colin, should think you'll be up there maidening that there weasel won't you?

Congratulations Paul on being my 100 post......you win a go with my Wildthing!!

Come one pull a sickie and get that Venom up, last night to get out of the wind we were flying from the side of the cattle shed.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 19, 2009, 13:02:00 PM
hopefully I can get up there for the maiden with camera then  :af
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 19, 2009, 13:05:30 PM
Congratulations Paul on being my 100 post......you win a go with my Wildthing!!

Come one pull a sickie and get that Venom up

cheers Rob, that'll be another model memory gone then!

can't pull a sicky I'm afraid, I'd only be lying to myself ::) tomorrow afternoon is looking distinctly doable though....
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on May 20, 2009, 16:08:24 PM
Guess what arrived in the post today  ;D

Oh I like that
I guess its the new Alula
with a epp tial rather than the old corex?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on May 20, 2009, 20:25:42 PM
no sorry allen its a weasel the new evo should be up and flying by friday been a bit busy with other things at moment cant all be full timers on the slopes like  Rob :nananana:
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on May 20, 2009, 20:40:30 PM
Due to a burning Car transporter on the M2 I had to divert via Bluebell and Detling hill's to get home.  Unfortunately that takes me within view of Thurnham, and I could see both pillows and others up flying.  It looked a really nice warm evening to be up there!  Hope you lads enjoyed it   :(

Simon (suffering mid-week slope withdrawal symptoms)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Russell on May 20, 2009, 20:56:24 PM
What I want to know is why the wind is always crap at the weekend  :'(

Some of us can't fly during the week
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on May 20, 2009, 21:00:47 PM
What I want to know is why the wind is always crap at the weekend  :'(

Some of us can't fly during the week

Its all to do with the amount of road traffic stirring up the air during the week.  There is less traffic at the weekend, so less wind.

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 20, 2009, 21:11:23 PM
Hope you lads enjoyed it   :(



Goodwind Slope Soaring: out of the woodwork (http://goodwindsoaring.blogspot.com/2009/05/out-of-woodwork.html)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Russell on May 20, 2009, 21:11:52 PM
Very good! how does the traffic affect the direction??
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on May 20, 2009, 21:15:41 PM
Very good! how does the traffic affect the direction??
I think you have answered your own question - It depends on the net flow of traffic in any direction, e.g. On saturday mornings the flow of traffic from out of the sticks in east kent towards Bluewater tends to oppose the prevailing SW wind, causing a dearth of weekend slope wind.

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Russell on May 20, 2009, 21:19:00 PM
if it carries on, I'll have to stick a motor on it  :'(
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on May 20, 2009, 21:27:24 PM
The circular traffic on the M25 is what makes Colley Hill so turbulent, I'm sure of it.

I popped out after work and flew my Blaster 2e and Arthobby Hyper at a local mini-slope.  The Hyper was a £60 secondhand BMFA Classifieds purchase and it's not the highest-tech HLG but it flies very nicely.  It's a slightly heavy foam and poplar veneer wing mated to a very light fuselage and balsa sheet tail.  At 500g it's a bit tubby for a HLG but actually that made it fly better than the Blaster in the slightly gusty conditions today.

I'm away for a week so I'll next fly on Sunday May 31.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on May 25, 2009, 19:31:02 PM
Its good that the site is back up.!

Yesterday was light E winds so thought I'd try Warden Bay I O Sheppey.

Wife in the car watching....switched on trani. a swift chuck off the cliff.....oooooops! forgot to switch on the RX....(I thought only John Boy did that) after a climb down and back up the cliff.....I chucked the Wildthing again, it wallowed around for a short while and I just made it back onto the top.

A guy turned up from Essex with his Taboo DLG, that flew great, but he found the landing interesting going back over the houses and trying to land in the turbulent air...but he made it.

Still trying to impress her indoors I went down the road a mile just past Leysdown towards Shellness, I had seen a video of Paul W flying the smallest slope at Seasalter so I thought I'd give it a go with the Widthing.......the wall is just over 6' high, two polish guys said NO WAY.....it flew up and down the sea wall a treat, there was quite an audience after a while, plus I was joined by a couple of black headed gulls........I had a blast and I will give it another go.

Can't wait to get my newly ordered Dream-flight Weasel Evo, now that will fly sea walls very well.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on May 25, 2009, 21:16:20 PM
Wife in the car watching....switched on trani. a swift chuck off the cliff.....oooooops!

NO IT WASN'T THE WIFE I CHUCKED OFF THE CLIFF!!!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on May 26, 2009, 07:40:49 AM
site back up, permanently this time I hope ??
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on May 26, 2009, 07:56:06 AM
Good work on the new video Goodwind :)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 26, 2009, 11:50:14 AM
Goodwind passes on his thanks!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on May 26, 2009, 20:45:07 PM
Goodwind passes on his thanks!

101 thanks given!  Paul - are you on a mission to thank every member?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: tp2fly on May 26, 2009, 20:46:04 PM
Wahay!  Good to be back!   :D
Im surprised the Wildthing flew from a small sea wall, well done N S E W !
I went to the slope at Minster on the Sunday and just about got a few circuits with my Fox on the shallower grass slope. At the time, the sun was shining, the view was great and I was loving it! Untill the wind totally disappeard and the clouds went black!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 27, 2009, 08:01:29 AM
101 thanks given!  Paul - are you on a mission to thank every member?

just a bit of low level subversion to devalue the currency, I was going to bump us all up with a load of thankyous, but it was taking longer than I thought so stopped at 100 ::)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on May 27, 2009, 09:41:05 AM
Slaps on backs all around chaps. we deserve those thanks and maybe bottles of champagne too. oh and a winning lottery ticket. maybe Goodwind could do the necessaries?

Sunday wasnt bad at Thurnham. in the afternoon, it whispered up a lovely bang on SW and for about an hour the Thermals hit big time, with flocks of crows to show the way so to speak. T'was great to just stick the plane in the middle of them and get sucked up. Not bad for a wind showing a NE lol.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on May 27, 2009, 09:41:42 AM
i actually meant BH monday, not sunday.
 :embarassed:
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 27, 2009, 09:46:31 AM
Crikey, I missed that one!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 27, 2009, 09:48:10 AM
maybe Goodwind could do the necessaries?


I'll have a word, but I think he only stretches to the occasional BBQ
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on May 27, 2009, 09:49:01 AM
Sorted. BBQ it is. I like how easy that went!  :D :af
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on May 27, 2009, 09:52:21 AM
Have you found a suitable "hand me down" recipient for the venom yet?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 27, 2009, 09:54:23 AM
Sorted. BBQ it is. I like how easy that went!  :D :af

we'll have to time it right, I've had a quiet word with Dave the warden and he said he'll turn a blind eye (as we'd be breaking 'the rules'.........Goodwind's book of soaring lore states that rules are for the guidance of wise men and the obiedience of fools)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 27, 2009, 09:56:58 AM
Have you found a suitable "hand me down" recipient for the venom yet?

No, still looking for a suitable victim, I might bang it on the 'bay

It's fine as a model, flys well, just add xtal....just doesn't float my boat. I see a future with Weasels in it!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on May 27, 2009, 09:57:30 AM
Dawn raid on the slope. brekkie BBQ... coooooool!

"Live fast..... Die in hugh hefners mansion" (also probably fast)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 27, 2009, 10:02:12 AM
"Live fast..... Die in hugh hefners mansion" (also probably fast)

does that mean we'll all have to turn up in smoking jackets with a playboy bunny on each arm?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on May 27, 2009, 10:57:48 AM
I could probably stretch to a smoking jacket, but the bunnies would be a problem :(
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 27, 2009, 11:03:38 AM
we could hit Camber Sands, I've heard there's good for pullin'  ^-^
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on May 27, 2009, 11:51:08 AM
I'm thinking about having a clear out is any of you guys are intersted

The AJ stays the rest could go

1. Bedlam little tatty but fine, 4x HS82MGs and Nihm
2. Phase 6 Pro Heavy but flys fine over 12mph an my slopes, 2x HS82MGs in the wing and 2x full size servos in the fuz 1300mAh Nihm
3. Gulp 60" foam Racer can't sell till after BMFA 60" race in June but come with 2xHS82MGs and glass elevons
4. Great planes Fling 2x HS55s, 1000mAh AAA Nihm + Hitec HFS-05MS Micro 35MHz Receiver
5. JP-SI (zagi) with 2x old futa servos and receiver 1x 2800mAh 3S lipo 60amp esc and 1900kv inrunner with 6x4 prop.

Reason:
As a novice, i found myself trying to get a model for every situation.
As i have improved i found that a good pilot with a good all rounder does not need loads of planes, just one good one.
I find that when I should be learning to thermal the AJ, I chicken out and fly the fling, when i should be ballasting up the AJ in high wind and taking advantage of its great penetration I use the bedlam so as low risk, when i want to do aerobatics i use the bedlam for stuff i am not sure about and the P6 for everything else

In short these planes are holding me back!!

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Mark 250 on May 27, 2009, 12:05:29 PM
Had my first visit to Itford hill yesterday evening,as the wind was WNW. Though the slope is not that steep, the lift was pretty good. There's a good landing area landing area at the top,and some bushes to get out of the wind.So not a bad slope.I took a friend who wanted to trying sloping. So after a quick explanation of the controls and what we were trying to achieve I connected a buddy box and away we went. Now is it me when I say "a little bit left and  ease the stick back" it translates into "full right and push" still had  fun recovering from some interesting situations. His lad came along and although this was his second outing he's more or less got the hang of it,a 10 minute flight with no input from me and he put in a couple of loops much to his amazement,may have a new convert  :af
Mark J 
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on May 27, 2009, 12:09:46 PM
Had my first visit to Itford hill yesterday evening,as the wind was WNW. Though the slope is not that steep, the lift was pretty good. There's a good landing area landing area at the top,and some bushes to get out of the wind.So not a bad slope.I took a friend who wanted to trying sloping. So after a quick explanation of the controls and what we were trying to achieve I connected a buddy box and away we went. Now is it me when I say "a little bit left and  ease the stick back" it translates into "full right and push" still had  fun recovering from some interesting situations. His lad came along and although this was his second outing he's more or less got the hang of it,a 10 minute flight with no input from me and he put in a couple of loops much to his amazement,may have a new convert  :af
Mark J 
No its not just you, I have tryed buddy box a few time with the exact same issue  ::)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 27, 2009, 12:15:41 PM
I'm thinking about having a clear out is any of you guys are intersted


started reading the list Allen and I thought you were selling up and packing up!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on May 27, 2009, 12:26:24 PM
started reading the list Allen and I thought you were selling up and packing up!
It's just i dont have the room for them, i need the cash at the mo and i have started to enjoy my AJ for what it is,
when i did the club Xcountry comp i was flight behind the slope after gaining height in tiny lift at the front and really enjoying it
and the other day me and mark were up Bopeep in a great blow and when struggling to penetrate all i could think was i should have brought the AJ
I need to fly her more, get more confident and more experience with efficient planes.

If i had room to just keep planes i have no plan to fly for ages I would keep them, but as i could use the cash, the room and i want to stop flying them, it seems like a good plan.

and its time i started a fleet that suits me now not me a year ago :af
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on May 27, 2009, 12:31:04 PM

and its time i started a fleet that suits me now not me a year ago :af


....sounds like it's going to get expensive  ;)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Mark 250 on May 27, 2009, 12:36:06 PM
Allen.
I may be interested in the fling. PM me with the details.
Thanks
Mark J
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on May 27, 2009, 12:39:54 PM
....sounds like it's going to get expensive  ;)

Well for now it's a case of just having the AJ, she is a great 2m sports model she will do everything, I just need make myself flight it for everything, I just can't see the point in the other models anymore

There are only two planes in my fleet that still hold a reason for keeping, the P6 coz its so nice to fly its like the movements are digital, you pull back and she just seems to be vertical and you roll and she just flicks over like she had no wings, I think I might miss her

Then there is the zagi, It was the first model i FLEW!! and after learning to hate it i hacked it in to a power model and now she is the only power model i own, so it has a place for that reason only, though i hardly ever fly it coz i can't be ar5ed to drive up the road for only 10 minutes of battery life  :o
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on May 27, 2009, 18:40:20 PM
Paul...... great addition of the "hefner". I secretly knew he was a kent soarer! ( i said Kent...ok?)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 27, 2009, 18:44:46 PM
note Rob enjoying the rear view
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on May 28, 2009, 07:52:44 AM
yes, Robs always had a thing for hugh! :co :af :nananana:
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on May 29, 2009, 10:32:04 AM
Very quiet on the western front. Anyone up flying this afternoon then??
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 29, 2009, 10:35:58 AM
all quiet on the south western front more like!

it all looks a bit pants for the next few days, I may even have to go out to Minster on Sunday if I get really desperate
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on May 29, 2009, 11:54:04 AM
Looks like a great few day down here
I think me and mark will be out tomorrow in a 15-20mph at Butts getting very burnt on the neck (out with the factor 50)
was gonna get a quickie in tonight too :af

You can't beat clear blue sky with a ENE as the sun is never in your flight, although landing can give you a nasty suprise if you have forgot the sun is there, i must try to remember to plan my landings with this in mind , but whats the odds i forget and only remember when I'm hovering in turbulent rear rotors right in front of the sun   ;D
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on May 29, 2009, 12:11:12 PM
Surly it's the perfect weekend for an invasions of the North Downs BBQ possy   :af
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on May 29, 2009, 13:11:12 PM
Seems to be stuck in the east at the moment.  was hoping for a NE so that Minster or Botany bay become usable.  Its too nice an afternoon not to go soaring

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 29, 2009, 13:16:11 PM
Surly it's the perfect weekend for an invasions of the North Downs BBQ possy   :af

Domestic duties for most of the day tomorrow Allen, but I would like to get down again some time soon. Following the Bopeep Saturday, I'll probably only be doing week days though
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 29, 2009, 13:19:19 PM
Seems to be stuck in the east at the moment.  was hoping for a NE so that Minster or Botany bay become usable.  Its too nice an afternoon not to go soaring

Simon

Sunday's looking best, let me know if you head out Simon or have you got a comp?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Spoons on May 29, 2009, 14:11:20 PM
We have a comp Paul, but looks like there is not a great deal of wind in south wales :(
There awesome slopes when its on, I'm starting to get some F3F with drawals, as my last outing was the wollybacks in December :(
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 29, 2009, 14:26:58 PM
We have a comp Paul, but looks like there is not a great deal of wind in south wales :(
There awesome slopes when its on, I'm starting to get some F3F with drawals, as my last outing was the wollybacks in December :(

you've had some shocking luck with the weather!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on May 29, 2009, 15:54:00 PM
Following the Bopeep Saturday, I'll probably only be doing week days though

That group of people, only fly firle,bopeep, B-head and a newhaven slope in a west
as long as its Butts or longman it never gets busy
longman is the best as the walk puts off most and it's no good for pillows, so dont be put off by the weekends just pic your spot

I was enjoying the chat more than the flying that day. I should have thought about the fact some of you had come some distance to fly, Sorry!!
we should have either moved to the far east bowl or to butts lane
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 29, 2009, 16:40:15 PM
I should have thought about the fact some of you had come some distance to fly, Sorry!!


not your fault at all Allen, it was interesting to see such a wide range of models and they were a great buch of chaps, but you're right next time it'll be Longman for sure!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Leebert on May 29, 2009, 16:54:01 PM
Talking of Bo peep, is Sunday afternoon on?
Anyone going?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Mark 250 on May 29, 2009, 18:06:11 PM
Sunday's looking ENE at the moment, Bo-Peep may be OK. ESSA`will probably be at Butts. Will make decision tomorrow. Looks like the weather will be good so most spots will be busy with walkers.
That group at Bo-Peep seem to only meet up on a Saturday, and make a day of it. And as Paul said a good bunch.
Mark J
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on May 29, 2009, 19:52:59 PM
Fathers 70th on sunday, so saturday only for me I'm afraid  :'(
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Spoons on May 29, 2009, 21:16:40 PM
you've had some shocking luck with the weather!

Its been awful this year.
at least this time last year we had done one event, so far we have lost 2 for 2, and this weekend could be 3.
I'm thinking that I should have a go at F3B instead !
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on May 29, 2009, 21:46:45 PM
I'm thinking that I should have a go at F3B instead !

Gets my vote   ;D  Only 39 to go...

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: tp2fly on May 29, 2009, 22:56:08 PM
Flew at Warden Bay on the Isle of Sheppey today.  East is smack on for this cliff, first time ive flown there and although it was 8 pm the lift was fantastic!  Super smooth straight off the sea.  :D
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on May 30, 2009, 21:34:31 PM
Lots of nice cliffs and mountains here in Majorca, no glider though :(

Just have to make do with supping my beer by the poolside !
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Spoons on May 30, 2009, 21:45:07 PM
Pretty decent afternoons flying at botony bay today.
Found the sweet spot in the rotor to land was nice.
Shame Andrews new X-it is slower then my wonky old Zagi !
mine wa deffo fast for sure.

Good spot and great smooth lift.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: tp2fly on May 31, 2009, 02:42:44 AM
Had a great day sloping at Minster today!   Flew my Fox and the Zagi.  There were aronud 12 of us up there and 8 models in the air combatting.
Probably will be there Sunday too :)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 31, 2009, 09:12:27 AM
Lots of nice cliffs and mountains here in Majorca, no glider though :(

Just have to make do with supping my beer by the poolside !


it's a hard life Deryck, perhaps you shouldn't have sold the Alula after all

on a slightly flying related topic, I went to go to bed last night and found a bat flying round the bedroom!!

who's going out to play (and where) today then? I've got bits to sort this morning but the afternoon if free
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Nova Andy on May 31, 2009, 10:38:27 AM
Pretty decent afternoons flying at botony bay today.
Found the sweet spot in the rotor to land was nice.
Shame Andrews new X-it is slower then my wonky old Zagi !
mine wa deffo fast for sure.

Good spot and great smooth lift.

I just dont get it, why is it sooooooo slow lol

Andrew
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on May 31, 2009, 20:02:47 PM
well its along time since i have seen all the regular faces of Thurnham and the good chats apologies for my absence, had the missus in hospital (new knee) and had 2 boxer dogs to look after thought i had better not bring them up flying there would be foam and balsa everywhere and i would be lynched to the same tree simon was stuck in. i hope to catch up with you all this week some time and let Paul fly the Weasel that's if he hasn't got his yet  ::) good flying all ALTB colin :af
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 31, 2009, 20:09:02 PM
it's all been a bit northerly recently Colin, you havne't missed much
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on May 31, 2009, 20:30:20 PM
yeah i have ive missed Rob :'( cant remember what he sounds like $%&
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 31, 2009, 20:36:13 PM
attached below a reminder for you....
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on May 31, 2009, 20:39:07 PM
oh yeah scary or what. bless
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on May 31, 2009, 20:45:41 PM
oh yeah scary or what. bless

he's lurking, but he's not commenting......
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on May 31, 2009, 20:53:28 PM
yeah he is hes on the phone
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: tp2fly on May 31, 2009, 23:29:53 PM
LOL !    S@*t, help---Landing.   LOLOLOL ;D
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: tp2fly on May 31, 2009, 23:31:34 PM
Wind is spot on for Minster people,  going to be all week.  Flew there today too-fantastic!  Might be there 2moro too.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Phil.Taylor on May 31, 2009, 23:34:19 PM
on a slightly flying related topic, I went to go to bed last night and found a bat flying round the bedroom!!
Way cool!
which way up did it land?

Phil.
with a big fat hairy moth
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: swarrans on June 01, 2009, 06:28:53 AM
I've got Thurnham withdrawl symptoms too, so I may have to brave Minster soon too.
I've been flying a pretty built up Cessna C140 at a flat field (is that allowed here?!) - coo everything seems to happen a lot more quickly and the batteries only last 5 minutes! (I think that means I'm a glider convert).  Amazingly despite the C140 flying challenge it's still in one piece - AND - not in a tree (yet).

I "think" (due to the uncertainties of eBay) I've just bought a Futaba FF9 transmitter, so that means I'm about to become a much better pilot doesn't it?

Simon (not the good one)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 01, 2009, 07:20:42 AM
Way cool!
which way up did it land?

Phil.
with a big fat hairy moth

not sure, it kept flitting off behind one of my models that was leaning against the wall

I crawled into the room like a girl and opened all the windows, it did a few circuits before it worked out how to get out and then was gone!

Paul
who's not sure if he'd like to see Phil's big fat hairy moth or not
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 01, 2009, 07:24:06 AM
so I may have to brave Minster soon too.


perhaps we'll have to have a co ordinated sortie........safety in numbers!

tomorrow afternoon may be doable for me
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 01, 2009, 09:47:07 AM
think i may have to venture to les minster later. been too long now waiting for a wind change at thurnham.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on June 01, 2009, 12:04:21 PM
I've got Thurnham withdrawl symptoms too, so I may have to brave Minster soon too.
I've been flying a pretty built up Cessna C140 at a flat field (is that allowed here?!) - coo everything seems to happen a lot more quickly and the batteries only last 5 minutes! (I think that means I'm a glider convert).  Amazingly despite the C140 flying challenge it's still in one piece - AND - not in a tree (yet).

I "think" (due to the uncertainties of eBay) I've just bought a Futaba FF9 transmitter, so that means I'm about to become a much better pilot doesn't it?

Simon (not the good one)
It might do Simon just have to remember which switch does what or just flick em all and hope for the best.  Colin
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 01, 2009, 18:01:19 PM
oi! thats my secret trick colin :nananana:
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Spoons on June 01, 2009, 22:43:46 PM
Well I went up to the Isle of grain this evening for a light bit of sloping.
Along the sea wall there are areas where there is some possibility of getting some kind of lift.

When I arrived the tide was coming in, so the sea breeze effect was full on :)

I walked around the point to the far end a the larger clay cliff just wasn't pointing into the wind.
Whilst there was lift there it seemed very bumpy.

I walked back to the car and found this nice little section 30 feet long and 15 feet high.
Whilst I was never going to be able to fly the skorpion there, I could fly the X-It along the narrow lift band that it produced.

After getting my eye in I was soon zooming along the compression point of the hill and building up some real speed with the x-it (There must of been some sort of dynamic effect going on, as where I was standing the air was still)

I managed some 50 foot heigh zooms following several runs to build up the speed.

This slope is a real gem as its the most local slope to me where I live.

I would like to go back when there is a bit more north in the wind to try out the slightly higher cliffs at the point, and maybe try a mouldie there.

the video below shows the speed I got out of the small cliff  :af


or if the code dont work try this link Some attempt at Dynamically Building speed up on Vimeo (http://www.vimeo.com/4949869)
Also the second video Monday Night lazy sloping at the Lise of grain on Vimeo (http://www.vimeo.com/4949802)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 02, 2009, 07:58:26 AM
gotta love those tiny sites, looks like it works well John :af
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 02, 2009, 08:10:34 AM
anyone else fancy Minster this afternoon?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 02, 2009, 08:56:24 AM
well, im gonna try to get over and hopefully wont be hampered like yesterday!! Bah!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 02, 2009, 09:53:13 AM
looking good at present, I've got a couple of meetings so I'll check again at about 12.30ish with the aim of getting to Minster about 2ish
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 02, 2009, 12:39:04 PM
It's all gone a bit pants, IOSSC is giving easterly, the live feed is saying east round to south east

Back to the drawing board then  :(, I'll report back if things improve.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on June 02, 2009, 12:53:21 PM
It was 20mph onto Beltinge most of this morning - unfortunately I am at work  :(

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 02, 2009, 13:05:30 PM
It was 20mph onto Beltinge most of this morning - unfortunately I am at work  :(

Simon

saw that and thought of you Simon, getting colder and wetter as the week goes on but doesn't look like this darn high pressure is shifting
Title: Thurnham Family Weekend
Post by: GP on June 02, 2009, 15:24:51 PM
Here's a concept for an event:

Thurnham Keep is the manor house hidden just by the Castle Hill Thurnham slope soaring site.  It's a B&B and does posh cream teas and has a tennis court, pool etc.  So how about we plan a weekend event where the wives/girlfriends/casual totty/kids etc can have tea or swim or wander the gardens etc while we men fly?  Maybe a Sunday in July.  Some might even consider treating the lady friend to a night in the fancy B&B rooms on the Sat night, and then a hearty Sunday morning bonk and off for a fly, marvellous...

Any enthusiasm for this concept ... or do real flyers prefer to keep their totty well away from their flying sites?

(The one thing I haven't figured out yet is how to know which Sunday will have southwest wind...)

Thurnham Keep - Luxury b&b / hotel accommodation near Leeds Castle, Maidstone, Kent (http://www.thurnhamkeep.co.uk)


Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 02, 2009, 15:29:29 PM
reckon I could soar that retaining wall....

http://www.thurnhamkeep.co.uk/images/view-front.jpg


Paul
(with no missus in tow)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on June 02, 2009, 16:00:26 PM
I thought the idea of this hobby was to get away from it all not bring it with you. no sorry leave the women at home dont give em to many ideas. :nananana:
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on June 02, 2009, 16:31:49 PM
Yeah, maybe you're right.  Every time I try to involve my wife I regret it.  Like the time she threw a strop at Beachy Head because it was windy ... doh!  She didn't expect it to be windy?!!  Don't get me wrong, she's lovely, but I have to accept she's never going to be a big slope soaring fan ...

... and by the way, my Paul Naton dvds are not helping, she thinks they're hilarious - she says "Oh my god, not that drony-voiced boring guy ... how can you stay awake watching that!" ... I don't think I'm going to change her opinion until I find a slope soaring dvd presented by George Clooney ...



Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 02, 2009, 18:05:32 PM
What a surprise....only two of us at Warden Bay...smack on the Cliff!!

I only went because Alan from Dartford gave me a ring, when I got there he was flying one of those big posh jobs....I said that's OK but where are you going to land!! he said I have got the whole of the beach!! and that's what he did....up and down the Cliff four times.

We also flew the Wildthings and the Alula........Alans a bit good at flying....so smooth, I went down the Cliff twice but they were my landings..LOL, Deryck shouldn't have got rid of the Alula to me its great.

Its been good to get back out, loved it, 4 hours of bliss.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 02, 2009, 18:24:58 PM
thanks for the invite NSEW. GRRRRRRR
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 02, 2009, 18:55:54 PM
tomorrow then?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 02, 2009, 19:18:28 PM
thanks for the invite NSEW. GRRRRRRR

I thought you were the NEW GROUPIE John  :nananana:
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 02, 2009, 19:24:27 PM
tomorrow then?

Paul does that mean you are going to Minster tomorro? it's showing NE, I'll be going there at about 1.30.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 02, 2009, 19:38:33 PM
oh I see! talking to us now are you?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 02, 2009, 19:44:37 PM
oh I see! talking to us now are you?


Yes why not!  I get my new Weasel one day this week, it was posted on the 28th.....I'm looking forward to that.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 02, 2009, 19:46:56 PM
that'll be another model I'll have to programme into my tranny then!

John, you coming out to Minster tomorrow, I hear some of the others will be there!  ;)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 02, 2009, 19:59:29 PM
that'll be another model I'll have to programme into my tranny then!

John, you coming out to Minster tomorrow, I hear some of the others will be there!  ;)

Tomorro......will never come if you keep putting a "w" on the end of it.....OK i've lost the plot and I can't spell.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 02, 2009, 20:28:09 PM
Mr smack's ignoring us now, my only concern is that the last few days eventhough predicted NE all day have swung round to E and ESE on the Isle
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on June 02, 2009, 20:36:23 PM
info required, im looking at buying a new spectrum 7 with receiver anyone know where the best place to buy one from ? :af
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on June 02, 2009, 20:59:02 PM
info required, im looking at buying a new spectrum 7 with receiver anyone know where the best place to buy one from ? :af

Locally, TJDs tend to be lower than RRP and always have lots of Spektrum stuff in stock.  Also worth looking at Inwoods

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Mark 250 on June 02, 2009, 21:27:53 PM
colpick, are you after DX7 or the new DX7se don't know what the difference is,but Stan normally has a good price.
Mark J
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on June 02, 2009, 21:37:39 PM
The SE has a faster frame rate, which means in real terms that the servo will start moving and reach it's commanded position slightly faster than the standard radio (which is already one of the fastest out there!).  It is only really important where you need a number of servos moving in a synchronised way - it is aimed at helicopter 3D where all three swashplate servos need to move together otherwise the swashplate tilts temporarily.  I don't think it is necessary for any gliders, but may slightly benefit F3B or F3F.  The SE also loses the trainer socket so can't be used with a sim or buddying. 

There is one more much important thing to note though - The DX-7 is not a aimed at gliders, and so does not support many glider type mixes.  If you ever get a glider with 4 wing surfaces you will not be able to fully programme it.  The DX-7 is a great radio (and I have one) but not for gliders.  DX-9 would be better if you want to go Spektrum, but the Futaba 10C is better value and does gliding stuff well.  12FG is better and will do anything you would ever want with a glider.

See Spektrum DX7 Programming FAQ (http://www.rc-soar.com/spektrum/index.htm) for more details on the DX-7 and gliders

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on June 02, 2009, 22:39:20 PM
thanks for the info guys it would be the dx not se.  :af
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Spoons on June 02, 2009, 22:54:48 PM
Colin,
Maybe worth having a read of Mike Shellim's website as he has a section on programming the DX7 for 4 servo wing gliders
Spektrum DX7 Programming FAQ (http://www.rc-soar.com/spektrum/index.htm)

John
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on June 02, 2009, 22:56:54 PM
thanks John just been reading it looks ok to me
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on June 02, 2009, 23:09:38 PM
The link was embedded in my previous post, but not very obvious   :embarassed:

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Spoons on June 02, 2009, 23:18:44 PM
I see that now, funy how the links work !
Maybe they need to be in a nice shade of pink to stand out !
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Spoons on June 02, 2009, 23:28:46 PM
gotta love those tiny sites, looks like it works well John :af
Sorry paul forgot to answer this one.
yeah I really loved flying there, its a real gem of a find.
Small ridge but generated some nice smooth air to fly the x-it in, and its 10 mins from my house too !
Plus the aid of it being coastal brings the nice smooth air with it too.
further to the left is a more North east 25 foot high cliff which will work well, and I may even be tempted to fly the skorpion off fo there one day in a decent blow.
landing wont be a problem there as there is a field to the left where you can land in rotor free air.

I will try and get up there again when the wind is right.

A gem of a slope on a nice afternoon, make a monday seem even sweeter when you get a session in like that !

Cheers
John
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 03, 2009, 07:22:02 AM
sweet! sounds like a mini-Minster minus the dog poo
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on June 03, 2009, 09:16:53 AM
Paul, you thinking of getting out this arvo?

The forecast seems to be saying ENE or E, I guess Warden Point (Isle of Sheppey) might be possible, any thoughts?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 03, 2009, 10:10:10 AM
Minster is the plan or I suppose warden if it goes too far east, Rob's getting there for about 1.30 and I guess I'll not be too far behind but I am keeping an eye on the wind Webcams and Weather Station (WeatherCam) Sheerness Kent UK :: IOS Sailing Club (http://www.iossc.org.uk/weather/index.php?n=5) as the last few days it's swung round past east as the afternoon's gone on.

I'll post again around 12.30ish to confirm plan of action
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on June 03, 2009, 11:44:31 AM
Fair enough.  It's quite a long journey for me so I won't go if it's looking dodgy.  Just now that IOS website is saying the wind is exactly East at 10-12mph.

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 03, 2009, 11:46:07 AM
Weasel has arrived from USA....posted 28Th May on my doorstep 3rd June and that includes a weekend = 5 days, now that is good + it only cost £48 delivered, all I need now are the two servos on order from Giant Cod and it up up and away.

The booklet that comes with the kit is A1, the packaging is A1, and the kit itself is a work of art.....shame I will smash it with my landings :'( but I can't wait to fly it.

I will check the wind shortly and get myself to the I O Sheppey to have a play  :xx
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 03, 2009, 12:37:26 PM
Paul where do you think is best today? its showing E/SE 12mph at I O S S C Is it any good at Holly hill or do you think Warden bay........or ANYWHERE will do......need a fix!!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 03, 2009, 12:42:35 PM
looking consistently easterly, so Warden it is (I must be desperate!)

where are you parking Rob?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 03, 2009, 12:46:52 PM
Paul where do you think is best today? its showing E/SE 12mph at I O S S C Is it any good at Holly hill or do you think Warden bay........or ANYWHERE will do......need a fix!!

keeps getting the odd gust with a bit of S in it

I think this is just a coastal thing and Holly will be no good, I think it's got to be Warden

what doya reckon?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 03, 2009, 12:51:39 PM
looking consistently easterly, so Warden it is (I must be desperate!)

where are you parking Rob?

Thought I'd park on Sheppey Bridge......Sorry.....past the car park at Warden Bay up the dirt track road, where it swings to the left.....park on left, you can see the car from where you fly and only 20 paces to walk.....wicked, don't forget to take cover when I'm landing!!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 03, 2009, 12:53:55 PM
OK

I've got to load up the motor so I'll be there about 2ish, low tide is between 3 and 4 so we'll be OK for beach runs/landing out/skinny dipping

care to join us Gary?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 03, 2009, 12:56:21 PM
John boy said he should make it up there
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 03, 2009, 13:10:09 PM
right, I'm off see you all in an hour or so
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on June 03, 2009, 13:11:44 PM
I'll be there at some stage.  The wind is starting to look very southeast, not sure what the flying will be like but what the heck...
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 03, 2009, 19:15:03 PM
right, I'm off see you all in an hour or so

Paul that Sea king Helli that was out in front of us was looking for a light aircraft that had gone down in the sea on its way to Lydd.

Twas a good bit of fun at Warden today......LOTS of mishaps, lots of up and down the cliff, and some real dodgy landings.

Some of Gary's landings were funny.....plus the couple of near decapitation's LOL
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 03, 2009, 20:24:07 PM
I really enjoyed myself, having gone there thinking it was going to be a dead loss.

The seaking did another pass, then I saw it over the M2 on the way home
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on June 03, 2009, 20:34:42 PM
The seaking did another pass, then I saw it over the M2 on the way home

You must have been heading home about the same time as I was on the way home from work  I saw the Sea King and wondered what it was about.  Hope they find/found the plane

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 03, 2009, 20:41:04 PM
about the same time as I was on the way home from work

The true cost of quality mouldies  ::)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on June 03, 2009, 20:43:34 PM
The true cost of quality mouldies  ::)

Good point, well made! 

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on June 03, 2009, 21:57:29 PM
Nice session at Warden Point this evening.  Love that smooth sea lift.

Bit of rescuing from the base required...
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on June 03, 2009, 21:58:32 PM
Bit of flinching...
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on June 03, 2009, 22:00:19 PM
In fact a lot of close stuff...
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 03, 2009, 22:03:19 PM
some lovely shots Gary (am I really that grey and that ugly?!) you got some good footage as well certainly enough for a 'Warden Short'.....
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on June 03, 2009, 22:05:20 PM
Actually that's just the glossy highlights of your superbly healthy hair reflecting the grey of the sky ...

The light planes such as this Alula were flown the most ... which was just as well given how close some of us - ahem - came to hitting various flyers, schoolgirls etc ...
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 03, 2009, 22:09:04 PM
Actually that's just the glossy highlights of your superbly healthy hair reflecting the grey of the sky ...

does a bloody good job of hiding my dandruff too!!

given how close some of us - ahem - came to hitting various flyers, schoolgirls etc ...

more a case of 'coitus interuptus' me thinks!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 03, 2009, 22:13:57 PM
Good point, well made!  


in all seriousness (shoot me down in flames, tell me to mind my own etc etc) if anyone out there's having trouble with the work life balance give this a read-

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Affluenza-Oliver-James/dp/0091900115/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1244063395&sr=1-1

it's badly structured and could be half the length it is but does give a good slant on life/work/money and happiness
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 03, 2009, 22:25:18 PM
Actually that's just the glossy highlights of your superbly healthy hair reflecting the grey of the sky ...

The light planes such as this Alula were flown the most ... which was just as well given how close some of us - ahem - came to hitting various flyers, schoolgirls etc ...

That there Alula looks a real gem, maybe you would like to swop it for that old v tail wooden wing thing that you were flying LOL
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on June 03, 2009, 22:29:03 PM
Did i really see paul with foam!!

I'm sure i only had one beer with dinner  :o
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on June 03, 2009, 22:31:22 PM
in all seriousness (shoot me down in flames, tell me to mind my own etc etc) if anyone out there's having trouble with the work life balance give this a read-

[url]http://www.amazon.co.uk/Affluenza-Oliver-James/dp/0091900115/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1244063395&sr=1-1[/url]

it's badly structured and could be half the length it is but does give a good slant on life/work/money and happiness


I would read it but I don't have the time...

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 04, 2009, 07:39:56 AM
I would read it but I don't have the time...

Simon

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 04, 2009, 08:06:12 AM
Did i really see paul with foam!!


please don't tell anyone!!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on June 04, 2009, 09:03:06 AM
Paul did i also see you have a stub aerial for your 3030 now?
Any good?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 04, 2009, 09:23:22 AM
Paul did i also see you have a stub aerial for your 3030 now?
Any good?

strangely I get terrible glitching at Castle Hill when I use it, but it seems fine down on the South Downs and several other locations
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on June 04, 2009, 09:54:39 AM
strangely I get terrible glitching at Castle Hill when I use it, but it seems fine down on the South Downs and several other locations
Well that's a little worrying I think I will stick with the pylon then  :af
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Spoons on June 04, 2009, 12:06:28 PM
I discussed this with Paul last time I was at Thurnham.
On my Robbe FC-28 I use a rubber duck.
Works fine and have never had any glitches on it.
I have even spec'd out the ascot at thurnham in a thermal and its worked fine.

I reckon it could be a Multiplex thing ;)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 04, 2009, 12:26:20 PM

I reckon it could be a Multiplex thing ;)

may be a shoddy maintenance thing as my gimbal (where the aerial screws in) is a bit 'crusty'
I know others use the stubbies on their 3030s without an issue $%&
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on June 04, 2009, 12:43:57 PM
Not to worry, I plan to make her 2.4 anyway then i get a tiny aerial  :af
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Spoons on June 04, 2009, 21:10:31 PM
Oh we could be in for some south westerlies on Sunday :)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 04, 2009, 22:01:07 PM
Oh we could be in for some south westerlies on Sunday :)

let's hope so John

I see xc weather is giving the vague possibility of an almost south easterly tomorrow afternoon on the Gravesend arrow....maybe a Holly excursion?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on June 04, 2009, 22:04:20 PM
let's hope so John

I see xc weather is giving the vague possibility of an almost south easterly tomorrow afternoon on the Gravesend arrow....maybe a Holly excursion?

Hmmm.  Not convinced

Simon

ps - another good video of Warden on Goodwind  :af
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 04, 2009, 22:05:52 PM
let's hope so John

I see xc weather is giving the vague possibility of an almost south easterly tomorrow afternoon on the Gravesend arrow....maybe a Holly excursion?

Paul does it still work there if it's got E/SE, hope to finish the Weasel by tomorrow :xx
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on June 04, 2009, 22:08:04 PM
It goes round to SE, but not really further.  It can work at ESE, but only because thermals pop-off and float along, but it makes it very hit and miss.

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 05, 2009, 07:26:14 AM
it's looking a bit better on xc weather this morning at least up until 4ish, but BBC is all over the shop
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 05, 2009, 07:27:15 AM
another good video of Warden on Goodwind  :af

cheers Simon!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 05, 2009, 08:51:01 AM
Ok chaps and chapesses, all the forecasts now agree we could be on for a floaty afternoon at Holly so who's up for a lazy pm session?

Got work stuff to sort this morning so I'll report back about 12ish......
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: tp2fly on June 05, 2009, 10:23:45 AM
I might be Paul.  Fox in lightweight mode should be ok. Not sure how to get to Holly hill though!  ???
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 05, 2009, 11:30:19 AM
I might be Paul.  Fox in lightweight mode should be ok. Not sure how to get to Holly hill though!  ???

Hope this helps

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 05, 2009, 12:03:38 PM
It's not looking too bad on the charts, it's wet and easterly down my end of the county whats it doing nearer Maidstone?

I can't get away for another hour and a half or so....
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on June 05, 2009, 13:30:31 PM
tp2fly, you know you can get instructions to places like Holly Hill on

http://www.slopehunter.co.uk/7.html 

(Scroll down below the text on Firle)

And look at the picture of that handsome chap launching at Holly Hill, still as slim as the other photo of him in the same spot twenty years ago!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on June 05, 2009, 14:21:40 PM
Weather is looking pretty grim here in Essex......
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 05, 2009, 14:37:26 PM
very flat and wet in Canterbury now :(

Rob what about where you are?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on June 05, 2009, 16:54:12 PM
Hi all can anyone tell me what the FF8 Super is like as I may be getting hold of one instead of the spectrum 7 for gliders ? looking for any coments good ar bad thanks Col
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GH cnc on June 05, 2009, 17:07:58 PM
if any one is interested ESSA are holding a practice F3F this sunday meeting time is 11.30 for 12.00.
its looking like it will be at long man.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on June 05, 2009, 17:18:58 PM
Thanks GH cnc.  Was going to stay local, but may be tempted down there.

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on June 05, 2009, 17:58:43 PM
Colin, I have just bought an old JR X3810 which is quite well rated for gliders. Can be converted to 2.4 as well via the rf module which I may do at a later date.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on June 05, 2009, 18:10:47 PM
Details on 3810 here:

JR 3810 (http://www.modelflight.com.au/rc_model_radio_control/jr_propo_x-3810_rc_control.htm)

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Spoons on June 05, 2009, 18:28:37 PM
Hi all can anyone tell me what the FF8 Super is like as I may be getting hold of one instead of the spectrum 7 for gliders ? looking for any coments good ar bad thanks Col

Colin,
My newphew uses my dads old FF8 super.
A real nice little set but had a few short comings when used with a full house glider.
I had to use the program mixes to set up the coupled ailerons and flaps and found that I ran out of mixes and pre-sets to do it all.
The crow function came standard on the 3 way switch, which I ended up programming as start flap for a winch launch.
If your not doing anything like that then you will be ok.
Its a shame as the old FF7 was slightly better for full house gliders as most of the functions were already programmed in (didnt have to use program mixes, just use pre-set functions for crow and camber)
Providing you keep the programming to the minimum you need you will be fine and if you only doing slope flying you will only ever need a couple of modes then the radio is more the adequate for this perpose.
If you want to do anymore then the standard then a FF9 would be a better bet.

I hope that this helps

John
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on June 05, 2009, 18:50:35 PM
thanks for the info and feedback, John, Simon and Derek might go and have a look at ff8  at £65
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Spoons on June 05, 2009, 18:54:45 PM
I have a zap9 that does everything you need in a  radio (Former high end set)
Does all of the glider mixes (Preprogrammed)
Yours for £110 including module.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: tp2fly on June 05, 2009, 18:54:52 PM
Thanks for the info on Holly Hill guys :) Didnt make it today but now I know for the future!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: tp2fly on June 05, 2009, 18:57:03 PM
Colpick   ive got a FF8 for sale if you want  £ 60
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on June 05, 2009, 19:10:18 PM
yeah thanks trevor can i have a look at it ? ring me on 01634 570930
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on June 05, 2009, 19:12:22 PM
I have a zap9 that does everything you need in a  radio (Former high end set)
Does all of the glider mixes (Preprogrammed)
Yours for £110 including module.
thanks its like being in a sweety shop so many choices :-\
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 05, 2009, 19:22:00 PM
Ok Colins had his go....So I want a go now!!

I went to Holy Hill today to try the Weasel, it flew OK.....but....I had to feed a LOT of up trim in, I had the Elevons set to where they should be, so could it be as simple as it was nose heavy?

I only had chance to fly it three times as the wind dropped and swung to the east, I was Billy No Mates up there!!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 05, 2009, 20:14:39 PM
wind dropped and swung to the east,

Simon was right afterall then ::)


I was Billy No Mates up there!!

I was waiting for you to reply to my post Rob (no 1032), so assumed you weren't out and about ::)

oh well at least Sunday shows promise, sounds like nose heaviness to me!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: swarrans on June 06, 2009, 05:18:25 AM
I have a zap9 that does everything you need in a  radio (Former high end set)
Does all of the glider mixes (Preprogrammed)
Yours for £110 including module.

That's an incredible offer from John Colin - I've just bought a FF9 for more than that!
BTW, in my ignorance, the version I bought is the helicopter non-ratchet throttle one, does anyone know if it can be revised to have a ratchet? (or should I even bother?).

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Spoons on June 06, 2009, 06:05:56 AM
I believe that its just a case of taking tha back off and changing one of the platic gimble things around.
My zap is also the heli version (Identical in eveyway to the non-heli version) but has a super smooth semi-ratchet throttle.
Oh I forgot to mention that the zap had a service at ripmax 18months ago at a cost of 50 quid, and it comes with 2 sets of batteries as well, normal NimH and a flight power Lipo.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 06, 2009, 07:35:44 AM

Oh I forgot to mention that the zap had a service at ripmax 18months ago


John, if you don't get a bite you might want to try Alan Twine up at Thurnham. I think his Zap has been playing up lately so it maybe worth seeing if he's interested (though I might have that all farce about ace)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Spoons on June 06, 2009, 07:38:44 AM
Cheers Paul, its a super little set, just I like the tray style like the Profi or the FC-28, feel much nicer in the hands !
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 06, 2009, 11:01:30 AM
its very ME at the moment. i may pop over to shep shep this afternoon. anyone heading out that way?
 :o
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 06, 2009, 11:12:13 AM
its very ME at the moment. i may pop over to shep shep this afternoon. anyone heading out that way?
 :o

I could well go John as I have a job for you....it's saying that it should swing NE from about 2pm, what time ya going.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on June 06, 2009, 11:15:01 AM
You're right, if the rain holds off it's looking great for Warden Point on the Isle of Sheppey this afternoon.  Can't come myself, just mentioning it for anyone living in the area.

(I've added details of Warden Point to the Slopehunter website in the Minster Cliffs section:

Slopes K-M - Slopehunter guide to slope soaring sites (http://www.slopehunter.co.uk/8.html)

scroll down under the Kemsing section to see it if you need directions or anything)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 06, 2009, 11:28:53 AM
You're right, if the rain holds off it's looking great for Warden Point on the Isle of Sheppey this afternoon.  Can't come myself, just mentioning it for anyone living in the area.

(I've added details of Warden Point to the Slopehunter website in the Minster Cliffs section:

Slopes K-M - Slopehunter guide to slope soaring sites ([url]http://www.slopehunter.co.uk/8.html[/url])

scroll down under the Kemsing section to see it if you need directions or anything)



That guy in the photo's at Minster and Warden Bay look very similar, the only difference I can see is the aerial, plus my Alula (The Wasp) is now famous, it's value must have gone up 3 fold, Paul put 20 pence on the rear end for C O G so now it's worth 60 pence...LOL
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 06, 2009, 11:31:03 AM
yeah. probably 1.30-2.00 pm ish sounds about right.
dependant on rain of course!!!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 06, 2009, 11:31:57 AM
job? what job? sounds ominous! :o
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 06, 2009, 11:46:01 AM
job? what job? sounds ominous! :o

Its a secret....I'll be going at about 2pm.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on June 06, 2009, 12:09:29 PM
I believe that its just a case of taking tha back off and changing one of the platic gimble things around.
My zap is also the heli version (Identical in eveyway to the non-heli version) but has a super smooth semi-ratchet throttle.
Oh I forgot to mention that the zap had a service at ripmax 18months ago at a cost of 50 quid, and it comes with 2 sets of batteries as well, normal NimH and a flight power Lipo.

sorry for not getting back to you on that John  been doing some research on radios my brains fried now, where are you this w/end so i can have a look give me a ring 07834800478 cheers colin
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on June 06, 2009, 12:11:24 PM
job? what job? sounds ominous! :o
hope its not a b--- job john :''
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on June 06, 2009, 12:16:15 PM
That's an incredible offer from John Colin - I've just bought a FF9 for more than that!
BTW, in my ignorance, the version I bought is the helicopter non-ratchet throttle one, does anyone know if it can be revised to have a ratchet? (or should I even bother?).

Simon
cheers simon i will have a look at it
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on June 06, 2009, 12:39:42 PM
That guy in the photo's at Minster and Warden Bay look very similar, the only difference I can see is the aerial

Cripes, I thought the chap in the 1999 Minster Cliffs photo was some teenager - it's not you is it Paul?  Surely you didn't look 18 ten years ago?!  If it is you I'd better change the unflattering caption pronto ...


Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 06, 2009, 17:41:35 PM
Hi Guys just to let you know, just got back from Minster and its flying well so if anyone is thinking of going there this evening you should have a good time, 20/25 mph NE ish, both John and myself flew the Cliff and the bank and both were OK. :af
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 06, 2009, 18:15:23 PM
Had some grub......so back off up to Minster if any one else Fancy's it.....see you there, got to get this Dam Weasel to fly properly  :xx

Tried the Weasel earlier, C O G still wrong, had to feed in quite a bit of up trim again......Then the arms on the servo's came off as I forgot to put the screws in when building.....luckily they came of on landing.....grrrrrrrrr.....I will get it to fly ! Paul HELP !
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 06, 2009, 18:21:20 PM
Surely you didn't look 18 ten years ago?!



Yup I went through puberty at the age of twenty seven, and have been in a rapid decline ever since

By the way I tried out a couple of new sites today, Greatstone dunes near Lydd and Copt Point near Folkestone. Both take an easterly, and just about worked in today's north easterly  ::)

Also check out the nutter commenting on the Goodwind Blog

Goodwind Slope Soaring: desperate times (http://goodwindsoaring.blogspot.com/2009/06/desperate-times.html)



Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 06, 2009, 18:23:16 PM
Paul HELP !

Can't, I'm afraid

'Lee' has told me to 'stay away from island'
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on June 06, 2009, 18:49:47 PM
By the way I tried out a couple of new sites today, Greatstone dunes near Lydd...

Did those back in 1974, with my second (homebrewed) glider.  Was surprised just how high you can get from such small dunes.  Used to go to Greatstone for the family hols for a week or two every year back then.  Its a bit different down there these days.

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 06, 2009, 19:00:00 PM
Did those back in 1974, with my second (homebrewed) glider.  Was surprised just how high you can get from such small dunes.  Used to go to Greatstone for the family hols for a week or two every year back then.  Its a bit different down there these days.

Simon

And there was me thinking I was breaking new ground!, the wind was a fair bit off, but they still worked..I'd like to try them again in a proper easterly. I suppose you'll spoil all my fun and tell me you've soared the 'sound mirror' out the back there as well Simon ::)

Got any fotos knocking around from 'back in the day' that you could share with us all?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on June 06, 2009, 19:20:09 PM
Not many photos - and the few I have got are far too embarrassing for general consumption.  Now the sound mirror could be very interesting, although there is a fair bit of water in the area.  Maybe we need to get down there with a video cam and make a claim!

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 06, 2009, 19:30:03 PM
Not many photos - and the few I have got are far too embarrassing for general consumption.  Now the sound mirror could be very interesting, although there is a fair bit of water in the area.  Maybe we need to get down there with a video cam and make a claim!

Simon

That was my plan of action today Simon, it's certainly a goer but in the last few years they've been designated as scheduled monuments. The spit of land they are on has been turned into a island to isolate them from vandals, and to encourage nesting. However the tract of water isn't very wide (4 Multiplex 3030 aerial lengths) so with a bit of ingenuity.....
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 06, 2009, 19:42:19 PM
Here's the mirrors in the background, with the swing bridge infront. The bridge appears to be locked with 2 of the nuts shown in the picture (dimensions taken on site). These release one side and then it pivots round by hand.

The distance across probably is just about jumpable with a good sprint, but the bridge blocks any run up. Round the back there is another pinch point that is a lot shallower where you could maybe wade across if you take a change of clothes.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 06, 2009, 19:47:47 PM
These young dudes managed to get across, I emailed them a while back for some methodology but have not got an answer. At 1:35 I think you can see a kids inflatable by the bridge

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOVwUDhvrTM
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 06, 2009, 19:54:53 PM
and for all you DS fanatics, here's the back side...
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on June 06, 2009, 20:19:44 PM
If the wind was blowing into that backside - ie it was the frontside - couldn't you fly from where you were standing when you took the pic?  ie no water crossing required?  Or maybe that's a bit optimistic coz the plane might ditch in the drink before it reaches the lift.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 06, 2009, 20:52:48 PM
It's a fair bit further than it looks in the picture, so not a goer I'm afraid Gary
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 06, 2009, 21:18:48 PM
I've just had a couple of hours flying the sea wall just the other side of Leysdown, 1st car park on the left, 8' wall with grassy car park to land in, it was blowing 25mph and I couldn't believe the height I could get from such a small wall, I was Billy No Mates again though.....Looks like it should be Holly Hill tomorrow....unless some one from Warden Bay has BANNED US..LOL
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on June 06, 2009, 21:29:33 PM
In case anyone's interested here's a Arthobby Hyper HLG being flown at Warden point on Wednesday.  Thanks to Paul for filming it.  This is a slightly retro hand-launch glider, nice poplar veneered wings, 480 grams, I bought it 2nd had for £60.

YouTube - Hyper Slope Soaring (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIPXPiv6V04)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 06, 2009, 21:30:35 PM
I'll be your Holly buddy tomorrow Rob....anyone else?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 06, 2009, 21:45:03 PM
I'll be your Holly buddy tomorrow Rob....anyone else?

Colin's coming with me....I think I may have sorted that Bl##dy Weasel out, I have now put screws in the end of the servos...THAT HELPS....Took a bit more lead out of it's snout, and on the way to Leysdown I went in a flat field to give it a test chuck and it seemed a lot better, I didn't bother trying to fly it of the sea wall in 25 + mph I just flew the Wildthing 46" as John Boy broke my other 50" Wildthing flying into the back of it and snapping a control horn, but I knocked him to the ground twice today...YES YES !
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Spoons on June 06, 2009, 22:20:29 PM
Another stonking day at Grain today.
Flew the x-it for 2.5hours non-stop.
The nice thing about such small cliff sites is that you have to stay in the compression zone to get any lift.
I managed to build up enough speed to zoom up to about 100 feet with my x-it.
And you could tell the x-it was going fast as it made a whistle.

I would of loved to of flown the skorpion off the slightly higher cliff's to the morth west of the small one, but the wind was way off them today as they need loads more north the the small site. (One day I hope to wang the skorp around out there !)

Grain works so well that I will add it to me very small list of flyable places, but its one of the only places that faces from North North East, round to East North East thats only 10 mins away from my house.

Not for the faint hearted mind as the LZ's are narrow and the curl over is savage in places.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 06, 2009, 22:33:37 PM
Another stonking day at Grain today.
Flew the x-it for 2.5hours non-stop.
The nice thing about such small cliff sites is that you have to stay in the compression zone to get any lift.
I managed to build up enough speed to zoom up to about 100 feet with my x-it.
And you could tell the x-it was going fast as it made a whistle.

I would of loved to of flown the skorpion off the slightly higher cliff's to the morth west of the small one, but the wind was way off them today as they need loads more north the the small site. (One day I hope to wang the skorp around out there !)

Grain works so well that I will add it to me very small list of flyable places, but its one of the only places that faces from North North East, round to East North East thats only 10 mins away from my house.

Not for the faint hearted mind as the LZ's are narrow and the curl over is savage in places.


John where in grain is it that you fly? I do know it over that way.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Spoons on June 06, 2009, 22:45:17 PM
I put a map link earlier in this thread.
Basicall there is a 250 meter long clay cliffe that has various nooks and crannies in it, and the south most section albeit very small faces ENE and the north most section faces NE but will take a NNE at a push.
Its not very heigh and the rotor is nasty.

Its not always good for larger models as the wind has to be spot on the nicer section of the slope.
For small fast wings such as a zagi or x-it the smaller section is ideal, but it wouldn't really take more then a couple of models up at once, as a small site does tend to get crowded very quickly.

I hope that this helps
John
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 07, 2009, 08:25:37 AM
any plan of action for today then chaps?

it's a bit damp down this neck of the woods but looks to be brightening
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: swarrans on June 07, 2009, 08:26:38 AM
I'll be your Holly buddy tomorrow Rob....anyone else?

I'd like to come (with my Father In Law visiting from NZ) - when are people planning to be there - the rain is already clearing up here...

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Spoons on June 07, 2009, 08:40:13 AM
Very moist here in Rochester.
I'm hoping that the wind stays in the general s/w direction !
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: swarrans on June 07, 2009, 08:45:45 AM
Sunny and dry in Maidstone now!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Leebert on June 07, 2009, 08:57:21 AM
Sunny here too.
Looks like a trip to Colley Hill a bit later to soar inbetween the inevitabe showers :)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 07, 2009, 10:49:36 AM
aye. tis sunny here in detling. also ios cam is showing a westerly, so Thurnham may be a goer.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 07, 2009, 10:56:02 AM
aye. tis sunny here in detling. also ios cam is showing a westerly, so Thurnham may be a goer.


yup, the clouds are telling me Thurnham down here, I'll be up there at 1ish I'd have thought
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: swarrans on June 07, 2009, 11:15:41 AM
I'll probably be at Thurnham at noon-ish

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Spoons on June 07, 2009, 18:28:49 PM
 >:(
I had a great days flying spoiled by a numpty switching on while I was flying my x-it, after he asked me for my frequency.
Grrrrr !
There's always one.
Talk about a great advert for 2.4GHz !

Anyways flew the X-it and that zinged at times when the lift was on, I even managed to thermal her and get some decent height.
Made some adjustments to the ceres and now she runs very fast, the secret sauce helped thanks very much Simon.
Had some good air for a few legs and it was deffo sub 40 air, but alas it didnt last that long.

Then I finally flew the ceres with 4 pieces of ballast around thermal hunting, and gained some decent height for a couple of fast runs.
All in all a very good days flying spoiled by one silly moment.

I hope everyone enjoyed there day at thurnham.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on June 07, 2009, 18:41:20 PM
Turned out a lot better than the forecast would indicate.  Sunny all day, and the threat of some rain only at the end of the day when packing up.  As jon said, his Ceres is looking good - thank goodness that he wasn't shot down whilst flying that model!

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 07, 2009, 18:45:04 PM
What ever you do.......Don't ask Paul about the BMX Bike  :ev
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 07, 2009, 18:55:22 PM
Not to good at Thurnham Wind on and off all day, lot of South in it, but did get quite a few flights with the new Weasel and it is great, a lot of fun to fly.

Paul has sold his lump of foam (Venom) I think it was to fast for him !

There was a E Hawk 1500, he fired it up prior to launch, the prop flew of went up into the sky like a boomerang and came back landing at his feet, which looked quite cool.

Oh yes... there is video of the BMX !  I know cos I took it.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 07, 2009, 18:56:59 PM
Thurnham was ok'ish today. I had to leave about 3.15pm so dont know the report after that.As always at thurnham though, it was "funny" lift(that low barrier of iffy, wishy washy lift thats great higher up).I lucked out with my Kunlun though (easy, i said kunlun), e-flight 15 in the nose takes her to 800ft in about 12 secs. in actual fact,the lift was so good aloft i think i scared people because i was flying high and laughing nervously to myself due to the fact that i had 12 clicks of down trim in to keep it from dissapearing into space and the thing was whipping about like a banshee on acid. normally, this would be fine, but after Paul (great pilot, kunlun owner)  managed to do a 2ft/100mph flypast followed by a 90 degree vertical climb out, followed by a "craaack", made my confidence in the wing, wane a little. oh well. he managed to land it fine although it showed slightly more dihedral than when it left. hopefully fixable. If not, well im available to bye some spares! ;) anyhoo....great days!  :af
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 07, 2009, 18:59:23 PM
i meant "buy" not  "bye"  :embarassed:
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on June 07, 2009, 18:59:58 PM
I lucked out with my Kunlun though (easy, i said kunlun), e-flight 15 in the nose takes her to 800ft in about 12 secs.

I suggest you don't read the thread that Jon's just started... :o

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 07, 2009, 19:13:04 PM
Thurnham was ok'ish today. I had to leave about 3.15pm so dont know the report after that.As always at thurnham though, it was "funny" lift(that low barrier of iffy, wishy washy lift thats great higher up).I lucked out with my Kunlun though (easy, i said kunlun), e-flight 15 in the nose takes her to 800ft in about 12 secs. in actual fact,the lift was so good aloft i think i scared people because i was flying high and laughing nervously to myself due to the fact that i had 12 clicks of down trim in to keep it from dissapearing into space and the thing was whipping about like a banshee on acid. normally, this would be fine, but after Paul (great pilot, kunlun owner)  managed to do a 2ft/100mph flypast followed by a 90 degree vertical climb out, followed by a "craaack", made my confidence in the wing, wane a little. oh well. he managed to land it fine although it showed slightly more dihedral than when it left. hopefully fixable. If not, well im available to bye some spares! ;) anyhoo....great days!  :af

Yes and he just missed my little baby Weasel by a couple of feet......it would have only been any good for packaging if he hit it at that speed  :'(
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 07, 2009, 19:40:30 PM
grrrrr. johns thread getting me really wound up now!!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on June 07, 2009, 20:30:43 PM
Leebert, this wasn't you by any chance was it?  I was passing Colley Hill at 4.30pm and managed to fit in a quick 30 min fly.  There were two soaring personages there including this one with a Soar Baby.  But I didn't get a chance to talk to them.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 07, 2009, 20:52:48 PM
What ever you do.......Don't ask Paul about the BMX Bike  :ev

no damaged models today.....just a knackered knee, chunk out my shin and massive skin loss to right forearm ::)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on June 07, 2009, 21:02:12 PM
Get that video on here N S E W, your public awaits.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on June 07, 2009, 21:04:56 PM
no damaged models today.....just a knackered knee, chunk out my shin and massive skin loss to right forearm ::)
what a way to launch a weasel eh should ban bikes from the slope  :banghead:
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 07, 2009, 21:11:05 PM
Get that video on here N S E W, your public awaits.

It's safely in my hands and will be making an appearence as a 'featurette' at some point

I've just watched it, and it is bloody funny, made all the injuries worth while...well done Rob!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on June 07, 2009, 21:28:45 PM
Meanwhile, back on the 'We're all friends thread'...

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 07, 2009, 21:34:07 PM
Meanwhile, back on the 'We're all friends thread'...

Simon

 ;D ;D ;D

why don't they kiss and make up?

I can imagine how bad it must have been with full on lecky pylon racers, and that's just not what Jsmack is about at all he's a considerate and talented flyer

There's enough daily agro out there without it kicking off on the slope aswell
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Spoons on June 07, 2009, 21:43:48 PM
I did enjoy todays flying.
Playing my x-it is much faster then Simon's x-it. (Hows the new one coming on ?)
And flying how low can you go.
And watching el-capitano slow fly his x-it so slow that his radio signal decided to walk up to the receiver and deliver the control surface message.
(To make things faster I think Adrew should use some of Lubos Pazderker's servos Simon !)
(Or even some of his dads cirrus heli servos !)
Oh I have some very old micron rc servos that may work andrew, what you reckon ?

Still I think Simon had the lions share of zagi kills today.
My face is certainly red from facing the sun all day long, and I have kung-fu panda eyes (I can already hear the P1ss takes from the guys at work already !)

Simon reckons that my x-it is covered with new-new stuff.
Only called that cos I found a packing tape thats slightly newer then the new stuff that was previously new, so its new "new stuff" !

Good days flying in all,
Simon's Salto look superb against the back drop (Paul you must get some footage of thsi flying is superb !)
Makes me want to get something scaley now !

Some interesting models showed up today (See other thread !) and a nice moulded flying wing, and a all balsa wildthing.
We got the warnings that it wasn't a combat model.
Its looked fairly hefty if we had of hit it it would of killed our x-its.
Well maybe not Andrew's as it was going so slow ;)





Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 07, 2009, 21:51:44 PM

Simon's Salto look superb against the back drop

ohhh tell us more!


and a nice moulded flying wing



ohhh tell us even more!!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on June 07, 2009, 21:58:00 PM
I picked up a Baudis all moulded salto a couple of weeks ago, advertised on this forum (just got in minutes before this forum had the big crash)  All the gear in ready to fly for £200, in A1 condition.  Had to put a 2.4 Rx in, but it flies well and does look good in the air.  I will bring it to Thurnham, when conditions are good (it needs good lift) especially to see it land and run along on the wheel!

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Spoons on June 07, 2009, 22:01:14 PM
Simon's Baudis 2.5 Meter Salto, superb looking model, ticks all the right boxes and looks superb (Maybe he'll fly it up at thurnham on day !)
Of course he made flying it look soooo easy.
Some nice aeros with it (Simon, not the kind to make Greg sick like mine !)
Its got a bit of pace to it too, but Simon said it didnt retain the energy to well and maybe it neede some ballast to help it on its way.

The moulded flying wing we only saw once for a quick 5 min flight, he didnt do too much with it, looked good too, but I dont have any pictures or know who made it or where it came from.
Maybe won't ever see it again, shame cosy it looked very sleek and could be fairly fast !
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 07, 2009, 22:01:51 PM
I will bring it to Thurnham

I'll look forward to that, it'll be good to see it getting a good wringing out

what was the flying wing? it wasn't one of those dreadful X-wings was it?

so all I can ask is what was the span Jon?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on June 07, 2009, 22:09:02 PM
Looked similar size to a zagi, but higher aspect ratio, and close to parallel chord swept wing/

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Spoons on June 07, 2009, 22:09:37 PM
Just check and seems that it was.
Wah wah wah wahhhhhhh.............

Didnt look anything like yours Paul !

Seems that they are made by the same people that make the blade and mini balde (Saw a blade go in F3F, some whicked wing bending going on and a sound like it was going to explode out of a dive !)

I take it back then, still very interesting though !
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 07, 2009, 22:14:58 PM
X-wing

bendy bendy, snappy snappy

probably the only mouldie Mr T hasn't flown!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 07, 2009, 22:17:46 PM
so I'm imagining this all going on at the bowl of Longman

is my mental image a good one? and if so was any DSing taking place?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on June 07, 2009, 22:19:04 PM
No we were down the Kent coast
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 07, 2009, 22:23:13 PM
so who the bloody hell in Kent owns an X-wing then???
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on June 07, 2009, 22:29:05 PM
'Mick the Taxi' from ARA

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 07, 2009, 22:36:58 PM
'Mick the Taxi' from ARA

Simon

OMG today is getting more surreal by the minute

have googled ARA and all I got was the amateur rowing association, or the IRA said in an Irish accent

and there was me thinking this was all going on at Longman after a bit of F3F practice! Looking at my swollen knee and skin stripped arm I can't decide whether I've missed out or not!!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on June 07, 2009, 22:40:13 PM
Ashford Radio Aeromodellers...

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on June 07, 2009, 22:40:22 PM
OMG today is getting more surreal by the minute

have googled ARA and all I got was the amateur rowing association, or the IRA said in an Irish accent

and there was me thinking this was all going on at Longman after a bit of F3F practice! Looking at my swollen knee and skin stripped arm I can't decide whether I've missed out or not!!
think you need to take up riding lessons :nananana:
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on June 07, 2009, 22:43:00 PM
I think Jon just had a bad day... He got hit hard by someones model, who didn't even shout 'incoming'.  Bit of blood from that.  Then 5 minutes later shot down...  Then a bit later these missiles carving through everything.  It just all adds up.  Think of the film 'falling down'

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 07, 2009, 22:48:02 PM
Think of the film 'falling down'


top post!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Leebert on June 08, 2009, 12:33:43 PM
Leebert, this wasn't you by any chance was it?  I was passing Colley Hill at 4.30pm and managed to fit in a quick 30 min fly.  There were two soaring personages there including this one with a Soar Baby.  But I didn't get a chance to talk to them.

No, not me I'm afraid. I went there with a friend earlier on in the day. The forecast wind strength wasn't as forecast, or it picked up after I had left. I did manage about an hour with the Easy glider but had to rely on a passing thermal to gain a bit of height. The Whisper, Wildthing and my friends Tragi stayed on the ground.

Maybe I should have hung around a bit longer. Had it picked up by the time you flew?

Cheers
Lee
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Spoons on June 08, 2009, 12:38:25 PM
I have fallen down, now I'm back up again :)

The wind looks like it could be on again for my ninja grain spot again this evening (Aiming to get loads of flying done before my holiday !)

The x-it is looking a little bit more worse for all the kills Simon gave it yesterday.
Crumpled nose and some dings in the leading edge too.

It thermals a treat though and flys nice and straight out of a dive too.

I'm hoping that this dark cloud I can see out the window at work will not dump its heavy load on us, or it will ruin my plans.

Hey Paul talking about Urban Sloping, I'm off to egypt in a couple of weeks, maybe I could fit the x-it in and do some soaring of the great pyramid ;)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 08, 2009, 12:42:10 PM

Hey Paul talking about Urban Sloping, I'm off to egypt in a couple of weeks, maybe I could fit the x-it in and do some soaring of the great pyramid ;)


now that would be impressive, you need a packaway Weasle....but they're out of stock at present. I knew I should have pulled my finger out the other week ::)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on June 08, 2009, 12:47:04 PM
The forecast wind strength wasn't as forecast ... Maybe I should have hung around a bit longer. Had it picked up by the time you flew? Cheers Lee

No, the wind was surprisingly low despite the forecast.  Nice smooth lift, but only enough of it for lightweight planes such as the little 480 gram Hyper HLG I was flying.  Very pleasant though.  The plane I photographed was a tiny little thing that seemed to weigh about 10 grams!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 08, 2009, 13:32:23 PM
My head is a bit scrambled now from the ....Leccy Thread.... so I'm of to do some urban flying with the Weasel & Wildthing off the sea wall at Leysdown, I have taken a Chill Pill, if any one else is coming, 200 yards the other side of Leysdown large car park on left in grassy field......if that car park is full continue on same road for half a mile to next car park....lots of sea wall there.

Paul if you come....leave the BMX at home..LOL ... but bring the video cam.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 08, 2009, 13:36:24 PM

Paul if you come....leave the BMX at home..LOL ... but bring the video cam.

got to work I'm afraid, would love to join you but I've been told to 'stay off island' anyway remember?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Spoons on June 08, 2009, 16:37:11 PM
Paul, If i had it my way, it my luggage for my holiday would be winch, Ceres, ascot and hand carry the tx and zagi.
Clothes who needs them other then the ones your wearing and some flip flops !

Dont think the wife would be too impressed !
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on June 08, 2009, 16:39:54 PM
eh you could always plan seperate holidays, i did years ago i used to go fishing to ireland she went abroad to the sun brilliant
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 08, 2009, 16:56:01 PM
eh you could always plan seperate holidays, i did years ago i used to go fishing to ireland she went abroad to the sun brilliant

I'll tell her indoors what your saying unless you be a good boy Col.

Minster was OK, Warden Bay was good, and Leysdown sea wall was OK, flew two lumps of foam, Weasel & Wildthing, I didn't see Paul's friend at Warden!!, and NO Leccy models in sight....LOL
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 08, 2009, 17:01:17 PM
Paul, If i had it my way, it my luggage for my holiday would be winch, Ceres, ascot and hand carry the tx and zagi.

and I thought I was a dedicated flyer!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on June 08, 2009, 17:12:55 PM
think robs after the award for most hours out flying and most places visited, hows your knees paul ?? :'(
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on June 08, 2009, 17:14:00 PM
I'll tell her indoors what your saying unless you be a good boy Col.

Minster was OK, Warden Bay was good, and Leysdown sea wall was OK, flew two lumps of foam, Weasel & Wildthing, I didn't see Paul's friend at Warden!!, and NO Leccy models in sight....LOL
you dare and i will report you for neglect  :nananana:
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 08, 2009, 18:43:43 PM
hows your knees paul ?? :'(

I had a terrible time getting out of bed this morning, but it feels fine now....it's just the raw patch on my arm giving me jip now :(
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 08, 2009, 19:44:23 PM
I had a terrible time getting out of bed this morning, but it feels fine now....it's just the raw patch on my arm giving me jip now :(

Come on Paul lets see the BMX vid.  ;D
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 08, 2009, 20:41:43 PM
here you go then Rob, I was going to save it for an 'extra feature' but couldn't resist...
don't forget to watch it in HQ mode or you'll miss Ray's commentary

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bbp9GsSmqHU
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on June 08, 2009, 21:11:07 PM
Classic ...

With eery similarity I was showing my 9-yr-old son how to do wheelies on his BMX bike this weekend, and you know, it's much harder than I remembered, I came within a hair's breadth of coming a cropper myself ...

Paul, here's a tip: save your mid-life crisis behaviour for the 18 year old girls ...
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 08, 2009, 21:14:29 PM


Paul, here's a tip: save your mid-life crisis behaviour for the 18 year old girls ...


from what I recall wheeling a ten year old's BMX dosen't impress any of the fairer sex, regardless of age ::)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on June 08, 2009, 21:22:12 PM
Doh!  I meant DIFFERENT mid-life-crisis behaviour for the girls, such as ... I don't know ... hanging out in Miss Selfridge telling girls you're a producer or something ...

I had a friend who had a mid-life crisis recently and so he bought a Porsche purely to pick up young women.  I thought this was the dumbest thing ever, but the weird thing is, it worked ...
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 08, 2009, 21:26:17 PM
hanging out in Miss Selfridge telling girls you're a producer or something ...

ahh! there speaks the voice of experience, I might have to try that one

As for BMXs the poor lad had to push the thing home and put his mag wheels in the freezer ::)
(hopefully that'll get a laugh out of someone here)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on June 08, 2009, 21:27:33 PM
effing hilarious  :) :)

thanks for that Paul !

(hope it doesn't hurt too much now)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 08, 2009, 21:32:00 PM
effing hilarious  :) :)

thanks for that Paul !

(hope it doesn't hurt too much now)

It was quite funny in real time !

Deryck have you any idea what motor I could put un the Alula.....LOL
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 08, 2009, 21:34:31 PM

(hope it doesn't hurt too much now)

this is the main impact zone on my elbow, got one on my left shin that I'm sure matches
the grips on the kid's pedal, and my right knee is a bit 'shiney'

but I'm feeling a lot better tonight thankyou, infact i think I could lauch a plane again
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on June 08, 2009, 21:50:23 PM
It was quite funny in real time !

Deryck have you any idea what motor I could put un the Alula.....LOL

I bet someone has done it Rob  ::)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 08, 2009, 21:51:20 PM
this is the main impact zone on my elbow, got one on my left shin that I'm sure matches
the grips on the kid's pedal, and my right knee is a bit 'shiney'

but I'm feeling a lot better tonight thankyou, infact i think I could lauch a plane again

Looks a bit like a chicken drum stick with nappy rash !
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 08, 2009, 21:55:43 PM
Looks a bit like a chicken drum stick with nappy rash !

yup, that's about the strength of it....just be glad I didn't take a photo of my leg!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on June 08, 2009, 22:32:13 PM
I have some BMX kneepads from my cycling days.  I'll bring them with me next time I'm up Thurnham in case you get the urge again...

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on June 08, 2009, 22:38:04 PM
here you go then Rob, I was going to save it for an 'extra feature' but couldn't resist...
don't forget to watch it in HQ mode or you'll miss Ray's commentary

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bbp9GsSmqHU[/url]
thats got to be on ubf  good one paul
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on June 08, 2009, 22:42:11 PM
It was quite funny in real time !

Deryck have you any idea what motor I could put un the Alula.....LOL
yeah i do a motor car
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on June 08, 2009, 22:44:45 PM
Paul, I'll bring my skateboard next time.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 08, 2009, 22:50:59 PM
Paul, I'll bring my skateboard next time.

I think he would be safer on a tricycle lol
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on June 09, 2009, 07:44:30 AM
Zimmer frame?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 09, 2009, 08:30:11 AM
thats got to be on ubf  good one paul

what's the going rate now £150 per clip?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 09, 2009, 09:15:41 AM
OMG that is Sooooooo Funny! LOL ;D ;D :D and you STILL managed to find the perfect audio overdub...... CLASSIC!!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on June 09, 2009, 10:54:59 AM
I think a little wee came out while iI was lmao
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 09, 2009, 11:14:17 AM
I think a little wee came out while iI was lmao

I just plain cr@pped my pants when I came off
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 09, 2009, 12:11:50 PM
what's the going rate now £150 per clip?

I vote half to the camera man  :af
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on June 09, 2009, 13:36:38 PM
what's the going rate now £150 per clip?
no £250 i think go on send it in
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 09, 2009, 13:43:10 PM
no £250 i think go on send it in

I'm building quite a stock of crashes etc, I may get enough for a nice new mouldie!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 09, 2009, 14:08:45 PM
I'm building quite a stock of crashes etc, I may get enough for a nice new mouldie!

I think you should get a Blizzard......OOOOOOOOP'S
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 09, 2009, 17:26:47 PM
looking like a bit of thurnham tomorrow, anyone heading up there?
might try the Ventus again  :xx shes looking a bit rough and ready now, so no hesitation in giving her the "chuck". im such a bad modeller lol. Its a "matt" finish fuz now lol :embarassed:
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 09, 2009, 17:31:22 PM
looking like a bit of thurnham tomorrow, anyone heading up there?
might try the Ventus again  :xx shes looking a bit rough and ready now, so no hesitation in giving her the "chuck". im such a bad modeller lol. Its a "matt" finish fuz now lol :embarassed:

Egg shells are matt finish......Goooooooo easy on them there sticks.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: swarrans on June 09, 2009, 17:32:38 PM
Would love to John, but I'm nursing the wife tomorrow - will get up there as soon as possible though

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 09, 2009, 17:36:14 PM
That Discus needs dusting off already Simon. Was hoping for a tandem "splat", But i understand the absence! Looking at the weather, i dont think i will be able to top up my "pandatan" anyhoo.
See you soon though mate!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 09, 2009, 17:37:25 PM
oooh. i past the ton on the old posties. kewl! :D
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 09, 2009, 17:43:39 PM
oooh. i past the ton on the old posties. kewl! :D

If you want to see another ton, I suggest you stop causing trouble, and stay off that white wine....LOL

Hiya Si
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 09, 2009, 17:48:18 PM
Rob.......... Go get the Bin bag!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 09, 2009, 17:52:33 PM
Rob.......... Go get the Bin bag!

More than one bin bag is needed if you are both going to try and fly those crapy Ventus'sssssss.

Point Simon in the right direction for the 3D leccy flying
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 09, 2009, 18:02:04 PM
you tight wad. your only prepared to bring 1 bin bag? tsk. you must be northern!!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Spoons on June 09, 2009, 19:42:33 PM
hey guys if its in the sw this friday noon, am I still allowed to come along ?  ;D
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Nova Andy on June 09, 2009, 20:38:49 PM
hey guys if its in the sw this friday noon, am I still allowed to come along ?  ;D

only if  you stop calling me captain slow (I take it you got the hint i dont like it by now  :'( ?)

Andrew
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on June 09, 2009, 20:43:38 PM
Well, at least you're the Captain.  Could be worse. 
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Spoons on June 09, 2009, 21:31:07 PM
only if  you stop calling me captain slow (I take it you got the hint i dont like it by now  :'( ?)

Andrew

We will have to get the stig to give you some lessons.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on June 10, 2009, 07:08:50 AM
Paul, now that you're enjoying your Cobra Calypso you might want to buy a couple of spare ones: I see on the BMFA classifieds someone is selling a pair of Calypsos at £600 each...
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 10, 2009, 07:18:32 AM
Yeah I saw that, I also see the guy who was trying to sell the spare tailplanes for £25 on ebay has relisted them. They obviously didn't sell first time round because they were too cheap as he's now offering them for £30.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on June 10, 2009, 08:16:56 AM
Gary, you'll never get him to part with that sort of cash ! Nor me either come to it ;)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on June 10, 2009, 12:18:09 PM
any one flying this aft??? and where?? or are you all still reading the dreaded thread :banghead:
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 10, 2009, 12:33:01 PM
got to work today:(

Thursday and Friday looking clearer in the diary though :)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Spoons on June 10, 2009, 12:35:31 PM
but there doesn't seem to be much wind about over the weekend.
Oh I wish I could slack off during the working week  :''
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on June 10, 2009, 12:40:14 PM
Saturday is looking fine at the moment for some slope assisted thermalling  :af

Get your floaters and DLGs out.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on June 10, 2009, 13:01:00 PM
but there doesn't seem to be much wind about over the weekend.
Oh I wish I could slack off during the working week  :''
thats why i start my working day at 4am so i have the aft to fly :af
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 10, 2009, 13:02:07 PM
but there doesn't seem to be much wind about over the weekend.
Oh I wish I could slack off during the working week  :''

you've not going to join the fellow slackers on Friday afternoon then Jon?

XC is giving moderately scratchy conditions, could be a jolly fine session if the sun's out
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 10, 2009, 13:02:52 PM
thats why i start my working day at 4am so i have the aft to fly :af

that's the kind of dedication I admire
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on June 10, 2009, 13:05:41 PM
nearly as keen as rob. eh will bring tandem up on friday see if we can get a double take ;D
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 10, 2009, 13:07:25 PM
nearly as keen as rob. eh will bring tandem up on friday see if we can get a double take ;D

I'll leave that to you and him then....I'm far too old for that kind of nonsense
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 10, 2009, 13:34:31 PM
thinking of taking my P51 mustang with os91 glow to thurnham toady. anyone mind?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 10, 2009, 13:49:31 PM
thinking of taking my P51 mustang with os91 glow to thurnham toady. anyone mind?

Come on get up that hill.......leccys all day......ish!!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on June 10, 2009, 13:56:51 PM
thinking of taking my P51 mustang with os91 glow to thurnham toady. anyone mind?
yes i do there noisy and messy and a glow motor not leccy :nananana:
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on June 10, 2009, 13:57:50 PM
Come on get up that hill.......leccys all day......ish!!
you going up then wob ring me at home
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 10, 2009, 14:08:02 PM
yes i do there noisy and messy and a glow motor not leccy :nananana:

nah! it flys great. ok the silencers fallen off but with ear defenders it should be ok
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Spoons on June 10, 2009, 16:39:58 PM
you've not going to join the fellow slackers on Friday afternoon then Jon?

XC is giving moderately scratchy conditions, could be a jolly fine session if the sun's out

Yeah I may come along and have a go if it sustainable.
Wouldn't mind chucking the skorp off and looking for some thermals.
I want to have another go with the x-it and see if I can thermal that to a spec.

Thanks Paul
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 10, 2009, 18:29:34 PM
Had a nice afternoon session at thurnham this afternoon. a tad southerly, but was actually generating nice smooth lift. I finally managed to get the Kunlun dialled in properly ( I took out a slight incidence increase in the tail which was bugging me), and got some nice, fast flypasts on the bubble! flys really nice now!  :)
Alan was up with his storm, and was whipping it about like a good 'un. Rob was dancing merrily with his polystyrene lid, sorry, weasel evo. plus two e hawk, and a couple of wildthings to boot.
Shame the weather felt like winter again ( you know, those frozen hand days).

For those who didnt make it, you missed a flyable day :P
PLUS SIMON WAS THE BEST!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on June 10, 2009, 21:11:43 PM
Quote from: j.smack link=topic=47532.msg581876#msg581876 date=1244654974

For those who didnt make it, you missed a flyable day :P
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flew my blizzard from the flat at a secret gillingham location with rob quite good landing site loads of room will tell you on friday  :af
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: swarrans on June 10, 2009, 21:45:25 PM
Had a nice afternoon session at thurnham this afternoon. a tad southerly, but was actually generating nice smooth lift. I finally managed to get the Kunlun dialled in properly ( I took out a slight incidence increase in the tail which was bugging me), and got some nice, fast flypasts on the bubble! flys really nice now!  :)
Alan was up with his storm, and was whipping it about like a good 'un. Rob was dancing merrily with his polystyrene lid, sorry, weasel evo. plus two e hawk, and a couple of wildthings to boot.
Shame the weather felt like winter again ( you know, those frozen hand days).

For those who didnt make it, you missed a flyable day :P
'ere - I woz there too John!  Were you just offended because I wouldn't turn my Junior S's motor on? (only kidding).  It was great to get out again, even if, as you say, it was a bit chilly.  Rob thinks I need to get an e hawk....

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 10, 2009, 21:53:54 PM
You were flying too well to be included Simon  ;)
Do not Listen to Rob, Do Not pass go, Do not collect £200. You would be bored stupid in 5 mins with an e-hawk. I know your thought process as its very similar to mine.....BIG, BIG, Fast!  ;D

Get that Discus up, fly it well, shut Rob Up , then get a Kunlun. (what did you prefer watching?)
 lol
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 10, 2009, 22:17:16 PM
You were flying too well to be included Simon  ;)
Do not Listen to Rob, Do Not pass go, Do not collect £200. You would be bored stupid in 5 mins with an e-hawk. I know your thought process as its very similar to mine.....BIG, BIG, Fast!  ;D

Get that Discus up, fly it well, shut Rob Up , then get a Kunlun. (what did you prefer watching?)
 lol

Simon liked watching the Weasel best SO NER!!  Discus----Ventus can't wait, they will have the same result as if you had forgotten to switch the RX on -------SPLOT !!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 10, 2009, 22:19:13 PM
They have only gone and locked the JSage thread........Booooooooooooooooooooooooo !
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 11, 2009, 09:45:27 AM
Strange. Probably the most active thread on the forum! Oh well. Lets get cracking on our own thread involving......erm Paul w. What can we start about him?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 11, 2009, 09:48:55 AM
I've heard he abuses children's bicycles....
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 11, 2009, 10:27:54 AM
If any one is into Tesco's scrap foam like me, the Weasel ain't arf good, the more I fly it the more I like it, it is sooooo quick around the sky, or as slow as you like, it thermals away in nothing, and it is a work of art by Dreamflights Mr Micheal Ritcher. £48 delivered from USA with all the bits and bobs.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 11, 2009, 10:32:29 AM
If any one is into Tesco's scrap foam like me, the Weasel ain't arf good, the more I fly it the more I like it, it is sooooo quick around the sky, or as slow as you like, it thermals away in nothing, and it is a work of art by Dreamflights Mr Micheal Ritcher. £48 delivered from USA with all the bits and bobs.

out of stock at present, much to my disappointment  :(
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 11, 2009, 10:39:02 AM
out of stock at present, much to my disappointment  :(

Paul why he's out of stock is that I have bought 100 of them, I hope to be ordering the new Alula Evo next week, you can also pay via Paypal, + I hope to be buying one of those DLG thingy's, I'll soon be ready for one of those Blades......TAKE COVER !
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: dannym2000 on June 11, 2009, 11:03:21 AM
He chaps....I tried out Butts Lane Wilmington a few weeks ago, my firt time there, but what a great spot!
here's a nice video from the day, Keith flying his Predator F3F carbon..... really nice machine!
YouTube - Predator 2.96 metre F3F at Butts Lane, Willingdon (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODFvH8Pee4k)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on June 11, 2009, 11:19:44 AM
Looks like you guys had a nice day for it - nice landing !

We'll have to get down Eastbourne way again soon.....
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: swarrans on June 11, 2009, 11:25:26 AM
Simon liked watching the Weasel best SO NER!!  Discus----Ventus can't wait, they will have the same result as if you had forgotten to switch the RX on -------SPLOT !!
Not sure what my next model will be yet - and I need to destroy the Discus first ha ha...
I was thinking about asking the other Paul if I could have a go at repairing his broken Kunlun's wings as I like the building bit...
There seem to be two rival factions, so which is the most aerobatic the Kunlun or the e Hawk? (ducks for cover!)

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Spoons on June 11, 2009, 11:59:11 AM
Paul why he's out of stock is that I have bought 100 of them, I hope to be ordering the new Alula Evo next week, you can also pay via Paypal, + I hope to be buying one of those DLG thingy's, I'll soon be ready for one of those Blades......TAKE COVER !

Noooo dont get a blade, wingy bend snappy snappy as Paul would say.
Out of a dive they sound like there going to explode.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on June 11, 2009, 12:17:14 PM
Not sure what my next model will be yet - and I need to destroy the Discus first ha ha...
I was thinking about asking the other Paul if I could have a go at repairing his broken Kunlun's wings as I like the building bit...
There seem to be two rival factions, so which is the most aerobatic the Kunlun or the e Hawk? (ducks for cover!)

Simon
if you like building then go for a chris foss phase 6 sport your love flying it a proper plane :af
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Spoons on June 11, 2009, 12:31:24 PM
Hey Mr Smack, bring on the combat, wildthing 'v' X-it I'll love it.
I haven't got any kills with the x-it yet so looking for freash meat.
She's fast and agile too.
I also want to take out Mustang man too, I have a score to settle from hollie hill that faitfull slack friday afternoon  ;D.

J
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: MooSey on June 11, 2009, 12:41:34 PM
Hello chaps.
Can someone point me to some pics/vids of Eastborne slope East Sussex? I checked out Slopehunters site and could'nt see it??
You probably know about the EPP60 league race on the 20th June?http://www.epp60.co.uk/ (http://www.epp60.co.uk/)

Anyone here going to be racing?
It would be good to put some faces to names.
And it's fun fun FUN :D

Mike
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 11, 2009, 13:18:52 PM
Noooo dont get a blade, wingy bend snappy snappy as Paul would say.
Out of a dive they sound like there going to explode.


It will be a while before I trust myself with a proper glider, it's not that I am bothered about killing "it", I'm more worrying about my landings.....must get them right first.

And as for combat with JSmack........I took him out twice at Minster the other day, and I'm crap, so he's a Pussy, he's got so used to thermaling that old Kunlun thing that he's forgotten how to bang them sticks around...LOL
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 11, 2009, 13:30:33 PM
What I do like the look of is this on the link, but I ought to start with around 1.8m first.....when ready....can't wait, I'll show them crappy discus/ventus tip stally things how to zip around one day.

Tomahawk FVK-Modell (http://www.fvk.de/Englisch/Tomahawk.html)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on June 11, 2009, 13:41:23 PM
What I do like the look of is this on the link, but I ought to start with around 1.8m first.....when ready....can't wait, I'll show them crappy discus/ventus tip stally things how to zip around one day.

Tomahawk FVK-Modell ([url]http://www.fvk.de/Englisch/Tomahawk.html[/url])
you thinking of selling your car and house then??
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 11, 2009, 13:56:22 PM
you thinking of selling your car and house then??

This GEASER is LOADED...................................WITH FOAM

I want to be the guy with.....ALL THE GEAR.....NO IDEA !
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 11, 2009, 13:59:43 PM
Colin John Boy and myselfare maybe going up Thurnham at about 5 5/30  it's showing W till about 7ish, gona take Weasel and leccy just in case, are ya coming?

This looks good for the money Alex XL 2.1m V - Slope - Acemodel.co.uk (http://www.acemodel.co.uk/slope/alex-xl-2-1m-v/prod_16.html)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 11, 2009, 14:30:33 PM
Colin John Boy and myselfare maybe going up Thurnham at about 5 5/30  

Have a good time chaps. I can't get away 'til tomorrow now, it looks like it'll be a lovely Friday afternoon for some serious slacking.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Spoons on June 11, 2009, 19:36:49 PM
So was there any action today ?
Looked good this arvo, was tempted myself !
I may of been beaten up if I had showed my face mind ;)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 11, 2009, 20:35:24 PM
yeah, enquiring minds need to know...
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 11, 2009, 21:03:27 PM
Dont want to depress you guys. but i went up to Thurnham about 2.30pm.

WOW. It was WSW so a litlle of peak but my god were the thermals good. Took the Kunlun and sat back. I have not been doing this very long, but the lift was incredible. (unfortunately it dropped out after about 45mins). thats the second time now, ive been worried about it getting sucked up (inexperience i guess), but the damm thing was so small that even waggling the sticks gave no inication which was up it was or where it was facing. I think i looped and rolled about 6 times just to ditch some energy from the thing.
Anyway, after that it was pants for a while and the rain came down, so i counted my blessings and hit the road.

I have a question.... what would be a good/reasonable priced/very fast/aerobatic first mouldie/about 2m upwards sloper for me to get? or is that the unanswerable question? (too many variables?)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 11, 2009, 21:05:31 PM
As usual I've been up de hill....W SW....20mph gusting to 25mph, I thought it was only going to be 10/15mph so only took Weasel and EZ* they both flew OK in the blustery conditions......BUT......I had one of my not so good landings with the Weasel that was quite funny, it got blown backwards in a gust rather quickly, so shoved some down in whilst it was behind me, but didn't react quick enough to flare out for landing.....upon hitting the deck the plastic cover (Belly Skid) shot off and the AAA battery launched itself towards me at 6' height, Yep I Cooley caught it mid air....looked wicked, and no damage to Weasel.

Eric turned up with his Graupner Junior s, did not hesitate in the gusty conditions and asked me if I would launch for him, so I chuck it, away she goes right into the sun.....LOST IT IN THE SUN......SPLOT ! lots of foam and motor bits every where, its not a happy Eric or Graupner.

I flew Ray's Wildthing for a while, John boy flew his Kunlun, the Easy Star was a challenge in those conditions (For me it was) but it flew OK if not a bit boring......That's about it, but flying off that corner of the slope with the sun there aint great but it's some thing to do......Se ya tomorrow.....Wob fwom Medway !
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 11, 2009, 21:11:02 PM


I have a question.... what would be a good/reasonable priced/very fast/aerobatic first mouldie/about 2m upwards sloper for me to get? or is that the unanswerable question? (too many variables?)

Get A Ventus, I meen Tip Staller, Oh sorry you have one!!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 11, 2009, 21:12:55 PM
Wiz, can you lock  N.S.E.W please. preferably permanantly ;)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 11, 2009, 21:25:32 PM
c'mon guys. you must know. If you were going to buy your first zippy 2m+ mouldie... what would it be?

Price is an issue though lol
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 11, 2009, 21:27:29 PM
c'mon guys. you must know. If you were going to buy your first zippy 2m+ mouldie... what would it be?

Price is an issue though lol

Nobody likes you any more.....Billy No Mates LOL
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 11, 2009, 21:30:02 PM
a guy on BMFA is selling a 1.9m Blade

BMFA Classified Ads / MOULDED BLADE Carbon 1.9 meter (http://www.bmfaclassifieds.co.uk/detail.php?id=4542)

it's carbon so not too bendy bendy snappy snappy, and they do get a good lick on with a quality whistle
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Spoons on June 11, 2009, 21:30:46 PM
Alex 2meter
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on June 11, 2009, 21:51:07 PM
Hello chaps.
Can someone point me to some pics/vids of Eastborne slope East Sussex? I checked out Slopehunters site and could'nt see it??
You probably know about the EPP60 league race on the 20th June?http://www.epp60.co.uk/ ([url]http://www.epp60.co.uk/[/url])

Anyone here going to be racing?
It would be good to put some faces to names.
And it's fun fun FUN :D

Mike


Hi Mike, good to hear from you.

There are a number of good slopes down in the Eastbourne area (lucky people down that way). I'm not sure there is a definitive 'Eastbourne' slope as there is Butts Lane, Beachy Head and a few others all within close proximity. I think the EPP race is due to be held at Butts Lane, Allen can you confirm ?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on June 11, 2009, 22:17:25 PM
Yeah, when they say Eastbourne they mean whichever slope near Eastbourne is best for the wind direction that day.  That event should be good fun.  I think they use Long Man as first preference followed by Butts.  Beachy Head overlooks Eastbourne but they won't use that since it'll be too crowded with daytrippers.  Details of all those sites are all on slopehunter.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: BLADE1 on June 11, 2009, 22:35:18 PM
Nobody likes you any more.....Billy No Mates LOL
Well i like him!! I'd recommend the blade 1.9m,its a one piece wing so its incredibly stiff,even with 300grms of ballast in tow there is  still no flexing!
By the way the blade on BMFA classifieds is NOT carbon,its glass with two carbon spars.If it was i'd buy it for £300. ;D
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on June 11, 2009, 22:48:23 PM
Is that you Paul ?? Blade1
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: BLADE1 on June 11, 2009, 22:57:55 PM
Yup. ;)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on June 11, 2009, 23:00:14 PM
Welcome t'other Paul   :af

Got your 4m scalie ready yet ?

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: MooSey on June 11, 2009, 23:10:10 PM
Thank you chaps with regard to EPP60.
I checked out slope hunters site and Miniphases videos (fantastic by the way!)
Looks like some nice slopes and scenery. Looking forward to coming down.
Anyone here going to enter? Go on you know you want to!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on June 11, 2009, 23:15:21 PM
Not many of us are the competitive types, with the exception of the likes of Simon T, JSage, etc.

I think Allen the Soarer may be entering (he's a local).
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: BLADE1 on June 11, 2009, 23:23:34 PM
Thanks del,
No i havnt started it yet. I meant to but ,got distracted by a fully moulded ventus 2c 4.5m by X-models!So im now £795 pounds lighter in the wallet. :'(
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on June 11, 2009, 23:39:02 PM
Bad man !

Do you know how many nappies that would buy ?  ;D
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: BLADE1 on June 11, 2009, 23:49:09 PM
Erm....76532probably! Missus keeps saying that its cost more than the re-decorated bedroom,cot,mosses basket,pushchair,clothing,all put together!!  :af They just dont get it!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 12, 2009, 08:49:09 AM
£795 pounds lighter in the wallet. :'(

nice one Mr Paul, last splurge before fatherhood takes over your finances I see

best to go out in a blaze of glory!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 12, 2009, 08:51:27 AM
shaping up to be a lovely, thermally afternoon

whose going to be for a good slacking then?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on June 12, 2009, 08:59:11 AM
Other Paul, if you ever need/are forced, to 'liquidate' some assets at a later date bear me in mind, I'm always up for some secondhand gliders....
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 12, 2009, 09:13:57 AM
OMG you bought a big ventus!!! Fly it! fly it! fly it today! go now. go go. I absolutely have to see that fly. Can i borrow the sword then? no? oh well. Hows the Kunlun repair coming on?If your not gonna repair it, lemme know.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 12, 2009, 09:16:18 AM
Thanks del,
No i havnt started it yet. I meant to but ,got distracted by a fully moulded ventus 2c 4.5m by X-models!So im now £795 pounds lighter in the wallet. :'(

You mean this baby?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: BLADE1 on June 12, 2009, 09:35:42 AM
Yup, thats the one.Its gonna take a couple of weeks to get here though, as its on order.
Im undecided about what to do with the 'kuntlun'.I had a look at the cracks and thought sod it and broke it up! Dont know whether to buy another one just for the wing,but that would be chucking good money after bad,it'll only crack/fold again.3 have folded on the 'other' forum.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 12, 2009, 09:40:53 AM
I know that Simon is interested in having a go at repairing it for you. He likes to travel down that road of reapirs you know lol.  ;D
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 12, 2009, 09:47:01 AM
well, forecast is looking good for this afternoon. no doubt the usual suspects will be joining me?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: BLADE1 on June 12, 2009, 09:50:52 AM
I know that Simon is interested in having a go at repairing it for you. He likes to travel down that road of reapirs you know lol.  ;D

Well if he likes glueing hundreds of little pieces of splintered balsa then he's welcome!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on June 12, 2009, 10:37:34 AM
Thank you chaps with regard to EPP60.
I checked out slope hunters site and Miniphases videos (fantastic by the way!)
Looks like some nice slopes and scenery. Looking forward to coming down.
Anyone here going to enter? Go on you know you want to!

Yep I'll be there look for the white gulp in my av  :af
(without the crap canopy)

And I would be very surprised if it was anywhere other that Butts Lane Or The longman
If there is any East in it, it will be Butts, bring some change for parking.
If there is any West in it, it will be longman, bring your walking boots.

People that have no idea which slope it will be usually meet at the longman and go from there.

the longman is the preferred slope as the predominant wind is west and you will not find any other slope users (pillows etc) or tourists, only horses, mountain bikes and ramblers
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on June 12, 2009, 17:56:01 PM
What was the lift like then chaps ?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on June 12, 2009, 18:42:59 PM
I stopped by Mill Hill (near Shoreham Airport near Worthing) and the lift was a bit weak, okay but hardly a classic day.  I guess Thurham would have been similar or weaker still?  Maybe good for BOSSSing with a DLG (Bit of Semi Slope Soaring).


Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on June 12, 2009, 18:45:39 PM
I have a Freedom Window on Saturday afternoon, but looking at the forecast it's going to be similar to today, ie not too exciting.  In which case I might just fly the Blaster at my local mini slope Warlingham Bowl.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Leebert on June 12, 2009, 18:54:12 PM
I have a Freedom Window on Saturday afternoon, but looking at the forecast it's going to be similar to today, ie not too exciting.  In which case I might just fly the Blaster at my local mini slope Warlingham Bowl.


Where's Warlingham bowl? I'm just on the other side of the valley in Caterham and am always on the look out for little local places to fly :)
Thanks,
Lee
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on June 12, 2009, 18:58:13 PM
It's not all just about slope lift Gary ;) use the force....
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 12, 2009, 18:59:46 PM
Thurnham was Pants lift today. wind dropped to virtually nil at some stages. still nice and social though. Simon, Paul w, Wob, Alan, Ray and me. Simon even courteously supplied some eye candy! ;)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on June 12, 2009, 20:00:54 PM
It's not all just about slope lift Gary ;) use the force....
The problem I have with thermals is it's all so SLLLOOOWWWW, it's like watching paint dry.  But I'm annoyed with myself for not having more patience.  I really want to get into thermalling,  I'm just waiting to mature a bit first.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on June 12, 2009, 20:05:16 PM
Where's Warlingham bowl? I' m just on the other side of the valley in Caterham and am always on the look out for little local places to fly :) Thanks, Lee


Hey Lee, you're really close.  It would be so handy for you.  It's not bad but the lift isn't major so you need a lightweight plane.  It's on the slopehunter website under More Slopes.  You can get to it from Warlingham or you can park in the Green Dragons paraglider carpark at the bottom of the slope (near Woldingham) and hike up.  Works in S to SW winds.  Here's the map link:

Streetmap - Homepage (http://www.streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?x=538191&y=157286&z=120&sv=538191,157286&st=4&ar=y&mapp=map.srf&searchp=ids.srf&dn=741&ax=538191&ay=157286&lm=0)


Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on June 12, 2009, 20:07:09 PM
Anyone this way tomorrow ? Looks like a light breeze at beachy head
can't beat throwing a 600 quid plane off a cliff in a light breeze  ;)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on June 12, 2009, 20:14:26 PM
The problem I have with thermals is it's all so SLLLOOOWWWW, it's like watching paint dry.  But I'm annoyed with myself for not having more patience.  I really want to get into thermalling,  I'm just waiting to mature a bit first.

I know what you mean, but defying gravity in the lightest whiff of a breeze can be very satisfying if it works. Then you can convert all that height gained into a screaming low pass with some aeros if you feel that way inclined  :''
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Spoons on June 12, 2009, 20:34:36 PM
Oh a cracking afternoons flying down "That slope " with Martin and Simon_t and myself, and no-one else but dog walkers ;)
The ceres's went exceptionally well, Initailly I had 6 lumps in, but later had to resort to none.
There were some nice thermals that came through enabling Simon and myself to push the ceres's out over the back of the slope and quite high too.
Martin's really getting to grips now with his Skorp F3F, made the right desicion with his ballast load, and it flew nice and fast.
We did some lame combat as the lift had dropped right off by then.

Then Martin got out his mini ellipse, which flew superbly around flying on the smallest sniff of a seagull fart.
Oh I love mini ellipses, they do fly very well.
But alas the more and more I fly my ceres the less the ascot or the skorpion get flown these days  :'( !

Still was nice to get out and do some serious slacking.

Lets hope that the lift wasn't too light at Thurnham  ???
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Leebert on June 12, 2009, 20:51:26 PM
Hey Lee, you're really close.  It would be so handy for you.  It's not bad but the lift isn't major so you need a lightweight plane.  It's on the slopehunter website under More Slopes.  You can get to it from Warlingham or you can park in the Green Dragons paraglider carpark at the bottom of the slope (near Woldingham) and hike up.  Works in S to SW winds. 

Cool :) Thanks for that.
Excuse my ignoance but what would class as a lightweight plane? I have a Whisper which seems to float nicely and a Wildthing foamie (which doesn't seem to work as well in light conditions). I have an Aldij too but suspect that it is not for a small slope.
Cheers
Lee
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 12, 2009, 20:59:19 PM
i guess the server burped jon. either that or you really wanted to hammer that post home lol.

Thurnham was ....well, it just was.... no lift to speak of, no wind to speak of either. lets see what the morrow brings.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 12, 2009, 21:00:17 PM
Del, have you been kidnapped or summit? whats with the "no, shows"?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on June 12, 2009, 21:07:19 PM
Cool :) Thanks for that.
Excuse my ignoance but what would class as a lightweight plane? I have a Whisper which seems to float nicely and a Wildthing foamie (which doesn't seem to work as well in light conditions). I have an Aldij too but suspect that it is not for a small slope.
Cheers
Lee
I would say in the right hands your whisper will fly in the lightest of wind
Light flight is a massive subject that goes from my little fling that weighs in at 192gs but has no penetration then the there is a £300 DLG that will not weigh more but will have a much bigger window and be alot more fun
then you have things like your whisper that will thermal fine with a knowledgeable light wind pilot
then you get to the real thermal birds the 3m+ F3J/X
but I have flown the Aldij in a 4MPH with camber quite happily
the trick i use is to fly a site you are happy (ish) to land out at and chose a landing (out) zone before you launch so your plan is to fly down to the ground in the hope you find lift before you find ground be it a thermal or just enough slope lift

never make the novice mistake i made with my whisper last year which was to realise there was no lift as i was going down and down so i turned back in to try to shorten the walk and ended with massive stall and nose met ground
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Spoons on June 12, 2009, 21:16:19 PM
The forum must of done a masiive burp.
I have removed the offending extra posts caused by it.

Still had a cracking afternoon though, but now face the fact that the weekend will now be spent working :(
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 12, 2009, 21:16:43 PM
im getting me one of these  :)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on June 12, 2009, 21:18:42 PM
Is that a 4.4 fox???
its gorgeous!!!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 12, 2009, 21:26:18 PM
nah! Its a 7m Fox. WHOOOOOOSSSHHHH! :o
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on June 12, 2009, 21:28:27 PM
OMG scream scream stamp feet!!! I want One :af
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 12, 2009, 21:31:27 PM
then look here

SSUK (http://scalesoaring.co.uk/GLASS/Models/AndySchafer/AS-Fox.html)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on June 12, 2009, 21:32:02 PM
Del, have you been kidnapped or summit? whats with the "no, shows"?

Yeah kidnapped by domesticity/work/the wife/kids  ;)

(delete where appropriate)

all of the above apply in my case though  :-X

The good news is that I'm coming out to play tomorrow  :uk:
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 12, 2009, 21:40:44 PM
Oh a cracking afternoons flying down "That slope "

Lets hope that the lift wasn't too light at Thurnham  ???

Thurnham was pants this afternoon Jon, I spoke to the paragliders who'd come up from down your way and they said it was blown out for them down there, I should have bombed down to join you.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 12, 2009, 21:41:39 PM
brilliant! you bringing the ASW? I think i may have to splat the ventus tomorrow, weather permitting. its showing a nice sw although looks about 9mph :(
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 12, 2009, 21:42:21 PM
John Boy.....you know I told you about the Blade I was getting cheap, well I phoned the guy in Herne Bay to ask for the list of his other gliders for sale, he said my brother is not in and gave me his mobile No........Grrrrrrrrrrr.....which turned out to be the old friend that I know in Ramsgate......He had seen the post that I put on here that I would like a blade, and the B*****ds had a two way wind up.....VERY FUNNY.......Pr**ks, Soooooooooo for now it's FOAM.

I WILL GET THEM BACK........AND I DON'T MIND WAITING ! I hope your reading this Dave.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 12, 2009, 21:44:01 PM
BTW Paul. I have passed the message on to the neighbours about the planning (off topic, sorry guys). I think its going to be flaming torches and massive bloodshed in our street. ...... Go get the camera secrect squirrel  ;)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on June 12, 2009, 21:45:15 PM
brilliant! you bringing the ASW? I think i may have to splat the ventus tomorrow, weather permitting. its showing a nice sw although looks about 9mph :(

I wasn't planning on bringing it no, that really needs 10 -15 mph as a minimum to stay up. I might bring it but based on todays weather it looks more like leccy and DLG weather.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 12, 2009, 21:46:41 PM
LMAO. do you know i have been googling every concievable opttion of blade/carbon/slope/sailplane/glider etc etc combo available to try and beat you to it, but with no joy!


HANG ON A MIN.... you WOULD say that wouldnt you. trying to put me off the ole scent eh? lol
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 12, 2009, 21:47:07 PM
brilliant! you bringing the ASW? I think i may have to splat the ventus tomorrow, weather permitting. its showing a nice sw although looks about 9mph :(

John it's not Splot the Ventus......it's Crack the Ventus.....As eggs you crack in a bowl... and them Ventus Fus is just like an egg shell..LOL
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 12, 2009, 21:47:51 PM
based on todays weather it looks more like leccy and DLG weather.

leccy not allowed at thurnham!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 12, 2009, 21:49:08 PM
John it's not Splot the Ventus......it's Crack the Ventus.....As eggs you crack in a bowl... and them Ventus Fus is just like an egg shell..LOL

its already been cracked... its just the ooze in the middle left, so it WILL be more of a splot!!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 12, 2009, 21:53:57 PM
BTW Paul. I have passed the message on to the neighbours about the planning (off topic, sorry guys). I think its going to be flaming torches and massive bloodshed in our street. ...... Go get the camera secrect squirrel  ;)

nothing like a contentious planning application to get the natives going
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on June 12, 2009, 21:54:46 PM
what would class as a lightweight plane? I have a Whisper which seems to float nicely ... Cheers Lee
I bet that Whisper would work really well at that Warlingham bowl.  In a 15mph wind I've even flown my Jart there, which proves that even this smallish slope can support a heavier plane.  But tomorrow if it's only 7mph or so I'll have to fly my 480 gram Blaster.

If you fly the Whisper and it sinks, just land it down below, it's a smooth grassy slope, easy to land low down and easy to walk down there.

Actually even that big Ventus could probably be flown there ...



  
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 12, 2009, 21:55:01 PM
Paul as usual I was wrong about why I went nose in today, both servos had stripped so that must have been from the nose in....you checked range and it was OK, so now I have no idea at all what went wrong, I know I'm crap at flying, but I know I did nothing wrong.

Its all better now with two new servos up her chuff....hope it not the 2.4 Rx playing up....£££££££££££££££
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 12, 2009, 21:57:26 PM
Actaully, what do you think the possibilities are of filming over my house? do you think i would have enough range if i flew it off the farthest western slope at thurnham?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on June 12, 2009, 22:01:27 PM
How far is your house from Thurnham?  I have taken video with a camera pointing straight down at 1.4Km from me (and I flew on 2.4GHz).

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 12, 2009, 22:03:18 PM
Detling Village, So approx 3/4 mile from where we normally fly. probably 1/4-1/2 mile if i flew off the far western hill hill.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on June 12, 2009, 22:04:53 PM
Sounds easy then...

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 12, 2009, 22:07:35 PM
sounds easy coming from a F3F champion yes ;). The words choke a lot more coming out of my mouth.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on June 12, 2009, 22:14:56 PM
I guess its down to the right sort of model - my long distance video flight was using my o/d Evolution F3J model, 3.6M span (so rather larger than most slope sport models), and a pretty stable platform.  I don't think you'd do it with a small slope model.  You'd be surprised how far (and how high) our models can/do go.

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 12, 2009, 22:20:43 PM
sounds interesting John

we could launch out form the western bowl and then do a bit of a cross country down into the village, like Simon says it isn't too far we'd just need a bouyant day

Simon what were you filming? it sounds very interesting
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on June 12, 2009, 22:23:07 PM
Paul, I think I can email you the video.  Its not that great (cheap borrowed usb stick video cam), but it was my first and only attempt at aerial video.

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 12, 2009, 22:24:31 PM

Its all better now with two new servos up her chuff....hope it not the 2.4 Rx playing up....£££££££££££££££

would it be anything to do with the fact your 'whiskers' are flat against the rx? aren't they supposed to stick out at 90deg?

also run your battery down under load and see how it goes, can't think of much else other than that....2.4's not my thing really
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 12, 2009, 22:27:18 PM
Paul, I think I can email you the video.  Its not that great (cheap borrowed usb stick video cam), but it was my first and only attempt at aerial video.

Simon

I'd like to see it, bung it off to p_westrupathotmaildotcom or upload it to youtube or the like if you get a chance, cheers.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: BLADE1 on June 12, 2009, 22:54:53 PM
leccy not allowed at thurnham!
'effing is!! ;D
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on June 12, 2009, 23:00:22 PM
Unfortunately its 122Mb, so I will have to stick it on a cd for you

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: swarrans on June 13, 2009, 06:58:30 AM
sounds easy coming from a F3F champion yes ;). The words choke a lot more coming out of my mouth.

Arr, all friends again - I like it!

Wob - I think that "joke" about the bargain Blade was uncalled for - I would have have a major sense of humour failure if they'd done it to me.  Looks like we all want to graduate to a 2m mouldie (yes, I know we're not ready Paul!) - where are these affordable gliders going to come from???

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Spoons on June 13, 2009, 07:13:00 AM
I guess Simon will have to bring the e-evolution down to thurnham and do some filming.

I also have one of Simons evolutions, I guess I had better do something with it and get it flying (I have been saying this for 2 years now !)  ::)

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on June 13, 2009, 08:20:11 AM
Does anybody know the council's position on electric flying at Thurnham?

Most councils use a standard set of by-laws that allow electric flying anywhere but only allow ic/rocket powered in a few named locations.  (I think one reason electric is not on the 'only in named locations' list is it hadn't been invented when the by-laws were written).

But I know of at least one council (Epsom Downs) that has updated its by-laws to include electric in the 'banned except in certain places' category.

So without knowing anything about the council covering Thurnham, I'd say there's a 95% chance electric is allowed and a 5% chance it isn't.

On the other hand, on National Trust land (which is probably the majority of major flying sites) electric is always banned. 

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 13, 2009, 08:47:01 AM
Unfortunately its 122Mb, so I will have to stick it on a cd for you

Simon

cheers Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 13, 2009, 08:48:47 AM
Does anybody know the council's position on electric flying at Thurnham?


nothing on site or on KCC website
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on June 13, 2009, 09:47:06 AM
I guess Simon will have to bring the e-evolution down to thurnham and do some filming.

yes but I wouldn't need to use the motor if it was a SW wind.

Simon  :''
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Spoons on June 13, 2009, 10:07:52 AM
Now I didnt mention anything about motors that time  :-X
But it was nice and quiet yesterday evening  ;)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 13, 2009, 10:15:23 AM
'effing is!! ;D

I knew someone whould bite!  ;)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on June 13, 2009, 10:17:30 AM
Right I'm off up Beachy Head now  :)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 13, 2009, 10:42:25 AM
would it be anything to do with the fact your 'whiskers' are flat against the rx? aren't they supposed to stick out at 90deg?

also run your battery down under load and see how it goes, can't think of much else other than that....2.4's not my thing really

Yes, they ariels are supposed to be at 90 degrees. As its a Twin diversity reciever. so you need to pick up the vertical and horizontal to avoid loss of signal
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 13, 2009, 12:19:38 PM
would it be anything to do with the fact your 'whiskers' are flat against the rx? aren't they supposed to stick out at 90deg?

also run your battery down under load and see how it goes, can't think of much else other than that....2.4's not my thing really

I think I may have the answer, the switch I put in the Weasel is the old one from when the Wildthing caught fie, the wires are a LITTLE see through, too tight to but a new one, John Boy's fault !
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on June 13, 2009, 13:09:04 PM
I'm going to be at the Warlingham bowl at around 3pm today.  Just can't be bothered driving further afield to Thurnham or Beachy today.  I bet Beachy is great though ...

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: tp2fly on June 13, 2009, 16:38:36 PM
im getting me one of these  :)

WOW!   :D :D :o :o

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on June 13, 2009, 19:09:41 PM
Beachy Head was not So Cool
It was 5 MPH and there was a little to much west in the wind

I had a float around for 15 minutes and then with an accidental over control stalled with a dramatic spiral of death

luckily the ground was soft and the nose cone was completely submerged in the ground but no damage  :af
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on June 13, 2009, 21:08:45 PM
How was Thurnham guys?

Me and foamcrazy flew at Warlingham and it wasn't great - but actually not too bad at all.  8mph winds, a bit gusty, but the Erwin flew fine so the lift must have been okay.



Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 13, 2009, 21:19:28 PM
It was ok Gary, loads of south in it for most of the day, one hanglider flight, one dead rec battery landing, one bee sting and it's good to see the grass growing...a sure sign of summer
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 13, 2009, 22:08:19 PM
that photo looks like del is praying his soarer will come back in one piece. which, of course it does!
BTW, as far as screams go........ that Glider is TOP of my list. I cant believe it actually sounds like a jet engine whipping past. Not just on the flypast(6ft AGL), but the runout too had that slow dissipation of turbine whistle slowly droning into a low grunt,  which had everyone going "what the F**k what that? I was walking the dog later that evening just as del was driving back from his 9hr "shift". He slowed the car, Said "i'm Knackered". Well, Im not surprised, Man of the match today, most definately went to Del, visualy and audably. (damm my spelling is getting bad)

Bad news about Duke and the discus/ventus. Still, glue and passion should sort them out again!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 13, 2009, 22:13:23 PM
Paul w. did you manage to get any footage of my sorry alans 4m glidr today?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 13, 2009, 22:22:52 PM
Paul w. did you manage to get any footage of my sorry alans 4m glidr today?

too busy with my 'nose man' duties I'm afraid
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 13, 2009, 22:25:46 PM
I have GOT TO KNOW...as I left Ray was into an epic flight, he had 3 mins. of my clock when I left and was looking good....BUT...did he land it OK, I hope he did.

Colin also had damage on the fuz of his new to him Flamingo with a slightly dodgy landing and not knowing what to do with his new futaba zap thingy.....Sorry Colin.

JSmack did you get around to chucking your Tip Stall-er (Ventus) or did you bottle it after seeing poor old Dukes one go in?

Wob
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 13, 2009, 22:26:19 PM
Man of the match today, most definately went to Del

he was making up for all those 'no shows'  ::)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on June 13, 2009, 22:43:35 PM
Bit of a shocker seeing Ray in shorts
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on June 13, 2009, 22:49:05 PM
I have GOT TO KNOW...as I left Ray was into an epic flight, he had 3 mins. of my clock when I left and was looking good....BUT...did he land it OK, I hope he did.

Colin also had damage on the fuz of his new to him Flamingo with a slightly dodgy landing and not knowing what to do with his new futaba zap thingy.....Sorry Colin.

JSmack did you get around to chucking your Tip Stall-er (Ventus) or did you bottle it after seeing poor old Dukes one go in?

Wob
well at least there was only minor damage and it did fly again wob we cant all be lucky
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: BLADE1 on June 13, 2009, 23:10:44 PM
Bit of a shocker seeing Ray in shorts
Seeing Ray without shorts is worse!.......oops :embarassed:
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: mr ed on June 13, 2009, 23:15:27 PM
How was Thurnham guys?

Me and foamcrazy flew at Warlingham and it wasn't great - but actually not too bad at all.  8mph winds, a bit gusty, but the Erwin flew fine so the lift must have been okay.




Sweet looking bowl. I've got one of they...
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 13, 2009, 23:35:01 PM
Rob. if you want any info at all on the discus/ventus, then ask someone else. full stop. end of conversation. I know, he knows, she knows its a tricky beast to fly, but im at the stage now where i absolutely will not take it out of the car if you are within 500  miles of its location. so drop it please!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Leebert on June 14, 2009, 07:50:31 AM
How was Thurnham guys?

Me and foamcrazy flew at Warlingham and it wasn't great - but actually not too bad at all.  8mph winds, a bit gusty, but the Erwin flew fine so the lift must have been okay.

Looks like a nice place. Definitely added to the list :)
Had friends down so couldn't get out but next time...

Cheers
Lee
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on June 14, 2009, 10:50:12 AM
that photo looks like del is praying his soarer will come back in one piece. which, of course it does!
BTW, as far as screams go........ that Glider is TOP of my list. I cant believe it actually sounds like a jet engine whipping past. Not just on the flypast(6ft AGL), but the runout too had that slow dissipation of turbine whistle slowly droning into a low grunt,  which had everyone going "what the F**k what that? I was walking the dog later that evening just as del was driving back from his 9hr "shift". He slowed the car, Said "i'm Knackered". Well, Im not surprised, Man of the match today, most definately went to Del, visualy and audably. (damm my spelling is getting bad)

Bad news about Duke and the discus/ventus. Still, glue and passion should sort them out again!
Yes she is a bit of a screamer ;) I do like a bit of a whistle, I suppose that makes up for it's lack of aerobatic ability somewhat. Can't get a half decent roll out of it yet :(
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 14, 2009, 12:35:28 PM
Rob. if you want any info at all on the discus/ventus, then ask someone else. full stop. end of conversation. I know, he knows, she knows its a tricky beast to fly, but im at the stage now where i absolutely will not take it out of the car if you are within 500  miles of its location. so drop it please!

You don't take it out of the car anyway, 500 miles is not far enough cos I've got long lenses on me camera, and as for me dropping it !!.....I'll leave that to you......oooooooooooooooooooooops    WOB

Or maybe I should stay at the bottom of the hill with my short lens LOL
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 14, 2009, 20:58:13 PM
got to thurnham about 2.15pm and someone had stolen the poxy wind.
Never Mind though Rob entertained us all with his 3mph flypast with his Easystar on full chat!

However, whilst not a soul could get any lift at all, simon turned up and lobbed the Electro and bagged a cracking thermal in the center of the slope, with a NE 1mph whisp.

Congrats matey! Nice one! ;)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 14, 2009, 21:06:33 PM
Guys! I am looking for a 9ch TX (glider functions). need it for crow braking/flaps etc.
Anyone out there selling one?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 14, 2009, 21:40:31 PM
 :banghead:
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 14, 2009, 21:11:14 PM
good to hear you chaps got out for some quality recreation

my bee stung pinky turned into a sausage over night and I woke up feeling rougher than a baboon's backside so retired back to bed at about 10.30am, up again at 5.30pm and back off to bed soon  :(

at least next week shows promise
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 14, 2009, 21:12:57 PM
Ok Guys, I am looking for a 9ch tx. (must have glider functions, crow brake/flaps etc)

Anyone out there can help me out?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 14, 2009, 21:14:33 PM
aarrgh. Im sick of this poxy server. is there another good forum. i cant take this anymore!!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 14, 2009, 22:32:53 PM
aarrgh. Im sick of this poxy server. is there another good forum. i cant take this anymore!!

I thought you said you was not spending any more money....and you were SKINT...NOW ITS 16' GLIDERS AND A NEW TX....I wish I was that skint, then I would not have to keep looking out the back of Tesco's for foam.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on June 15, 2009, 09:24:49 AM
is this thread working now ??? I gave up trying to post yesterday !
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 15, 2009, 09:26:45 AM
Think (hope) its back up and running. I thisnk the mod needs to upgrade the server to handle more traffic!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 15, 2009, 09:52:33 AM
I thought you said you was not spending any more money....and you were SKINT...NOW ITS 16' GLIDERS AND A NEW TX....I wish I was that skint, then I would not have to keep looking out the back of Tesco's for foam.
1. I am skint.
2. im not spending more money, i will be selling my 2.4 Futaba.
3. you smell
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 15, 2009, 10:03:36 AM
any of you stinkers want to share in my stench up on the hill later?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 15, 2009, 10:07:28 AM
me, me, me, me, me, me ! :)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 15, 2009, 12:37:00 PM
me, me, me, me, me, me ! :)

NO NO NO ! NOT TODAY

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 15, 2009, 12:44:01 PM
it's all looking a bit south easterly right now......
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: BLADE1 on June 15, 2009, 13:51:22 PM
Guys! I am looking for a 9ch TX (glider functions). need it for crow braking/flaps etc.
Anyone out there selling one?
Buy a new one...tightwad!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 15, 2009, 13:57:10 PM
what's the wind doing up there then?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on June 15, 2009, 17:00:36 PM
aft all you local flyers to thurnham is anyone going to the wings and wheels to maybe buy a kit or 2 let me know ?  never know john you might get a ff9 at the bring and buy.  im taking my car so if anyone wants a lift let me know
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on June 15, 2009, 18:26:35 PM
Ok Guys, I am looking for a 9ch tx. (must have glider functions, crow brake/flaps etc)

Anyone out there can help me out?
theres a ff8 on e/bay
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on June 15, 2009, 18:46:03 PM
why not go for a cockpit SX or 3030 like Pauls ? Proper glider trannies....
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on June 15, 2009, 18:50:04 PM
I have both and would not use anything else and the 3030 will be 2.4 in july  :af
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on June 15, 2009, 18:54:28 PM
NO NO NO ! NOT TODAY


is this the glider that tips stalls like a good an :banghead:
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 15, 2009, 19:04:17 PM
is this the glider that tips stalls like a good an :banghead:

Don't wind him up Colin, he will never fly it again.......anyway he won't be on the forum for a while....he's got his head stuck in a ff9 booklet.....at least he will stop wanting to YOSSER me !
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: BLADE1 on June 15, 2009, 20:03:52 PM
A ff9 cant do my Cularis as they've assigned permanantly the throttle stick to crow,so no proportional throttle.Whereas my Optic6 can! :P
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 15, 2009, 20:56:45 PM
SSHH you lot. Im reading!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Spoons on June 15, 2009, 20:23:05 PM
I sure on higer end futaba radios such as the FF9 you can use flight conditions.
My old ZAP you used to be able to have one condition for motor run with crow disabled and engine throttle on throttle stick.
And with the flick of a switch you could change to anothe condition to disable the motor and the throttle stick would then work the crow.

I have never owned a FF9 but loads of guys use them for various glider applications and they work fine.

Oh I have just remembered that a chap in my club runs a Riechard lekkie model on a FF9 and he has motor run onthrottle and flick of a switch has crow.

I'm sure it can be done.
I managed to program a FF8 up to use on my old pike superior, and managed to have full crow, launch flap, camber adjust and reflex and coupled flaps with ailerons.

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 15, 2009, 20:33:35 PM
I have both and would not use anything else and the 3030 will be 2.4 in july  :af

he's a boy!! I'd be interested to know how it goes Allen
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 15, 2009, 21:51:30 PM
hmm. not sure, there are two seperate glider functions on the FF9. 1 includes a seperate function for crow braking which im sure is partly switch assignable.Using the throttle level is no biggie though
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Leebert on June 15, 2009, 22:11:33 PM
Pretty sure the crow is assignable to the throttle with no problems... Count yourself lucky, I have a Spektrum DX7 which is designed for anything except gliders :(
Getting Crow on the throttle is ok but it's all a compromise with a glider. There are no pre-set mixes really and only 6 Pmixes so you end up having to make do without certain functionality. The Whisper needs a 7ch receiver and I have programmed Crow and flapperons but camber only moves the outer surfaces (I'm currently trying to work out how to swap it to the inners).

I'm currently saving for a Futaba 10CG to avoid pulling out all of my hair!

Cheers
Lee
Edit - checkout page 56 of the manual - http://manuals.hobbico.com/fut/9c-super-series-manual.pdf
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 15, 2009, 22:29:30 PM
well that answers it then. mix switch is selectable. Why they can assign it to a rotary dial is beyond me!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 15, 2009, 22:31:54 PM
"cant"
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 15, 2009, 22:46:10 PM
whats the verdict on the 2.4 7c Wob?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 15, 2009, 23:08:43 PM
why not go for a cockpit SX or 3030 like Pauls ? Proper glider trannies....

and in this universe the 3030's are for sale where mr Del UK?  ;)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 16, 2009, 08:02:27 AM
and in this universe the 3030's are for sale where mr Del UK?  ;)

a 3030 tx went on Ebay last week for 106 quid ::)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on June 16, 2009, 09:09:50 AM
a 3030 tx went on Ebay last week for 106 quid ::)
Paul found me one for £100 not to long ago
If you want one just let us all know and between us I bet we can find you one  :af
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 16, 2009, 09:51:31 AM
appreciate the gesture chaps, but its all academic now as i now have the FF9
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on June 16, 2009, 10:28:42 AM
 $%& :''
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 16, 2009, 20:25:35 PM
Dont have much to say, but the thread was getting so low, i needed to use the scroll wheel. cant have that!. im getting to grips with the FF9. I found the butterfly feature which sets up the flaps and then gradually feeds in down elevator to avoid the quick change in attitude... Brilliant!! And all with one switch. hurrah!! :D
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 16, 2009, 21:45:06 PM
Holly hill turned out to be good today after 3pm, Alan specked out his DLG thingy quite a few times, and that there Weasel flew the best it ever has now that I have sorted the C O G.....By the way Paulw Weasel is available to order from tomorrow with delivery for the 29th.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 16, 2009, 21:53:39 PM
By the way Paulw Weasel is available to order from tomorrow with delivery for the 29th.

mouse primed on the 'purchase' button........
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Leebert on June 16, 2009, 22:00:14 PM
It's official! DX7's suck for setting up the mixes for a 4 servo wing.
I have spent all night in the workshop and can only get some of the mixes some of the time. It's driving me mad  :banghead:  :banghead:  :banghead:
I thought I managed to get all I wanted at one point and was over the moon - until I realised I had no differential and the inner flapperons moved more than the outers.
To say I have the **** is an understatement!

For Sale: Good quality, low mileage body parts. Will swap for 10CG :)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on June 17, 2009, 08:20:30 AM
It's official! DX7's suck for setting up the mixes for a 4 servo wing.
I have spent all night in the workshop and can only get some of the mixes some of the time. It's driving me mad  :banghead:  :banghead:  :banghead:
I thought I managed to get all I wanted at one point and was over the moon - until I realised I had no differential and the inner flapperons moved more than the outers.
To say I have the **** is an understatement!

For Sale: Good quality, low mileage body parts. Will swap for 10CG :)


I take it that you have already tried this :
Spektrum DX7 Programming FAQ (http://www.rc-soar.com/spektrum/index.htm)

Otherwise, you have my sympathies  ;)


Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 17, 2009, 09:34:29 AM
Wont help you much, but i have a Futaba 7c 2.4 GHZ Tx, charger and Battery and Rs617f, 7channel rx for sale @ £160. plus a spare RS617fs rx for £60. or just the TX/batt/charger, for £100.0
Good condition, all fully working, no broken switches.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 17, 2009, 18:27:23 PM
No doubt the pictures of todays  Fly in at Thurnham will be displayed this eve. What a great afternoon, lots of guys, not an attitude in sight! Paul surpassed himself with his "Hobo" designed BBQ. Much burger etc etc was consumed, the odd whiff of Lager and a very pleasent P.C.S.O graced the slope briefly to boot! ;D
I will leave the images to complete the rest of the story!
Even the mighty Phil "Ascot" Taylor made a nice appearence bringing floods of free knowledge with him. :af
Thanks especially to Paul Ramsey oliver for the superb display of burger flippery. :af

P.S Del.... im making my call to TJD... im gonna do it, im gonna do it.........Hurry, hurry. Im gonna push the button, i am, im gonna do it. Just watch me!! ;)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Spoons on June 17, 2009, 21:41:38 PM
A cracking afternoon of flying fun for me down at the south downs site.
Ceres stonking along in the 16mph wsw that the slope was presented with.
Had to stuff 8 pieces of ballast in her just to cut through the bumpy air.
Got a couple of thermals on the course during a couple of F3F practice runs, and I would of said that it was sub 40 air, but very bumpy.
I was the only one down there apart from the wife.
So I am currently working on some videos :-
Ceres Short
Ceres Fast
And X-it exersion.
Having said that if I can't get them up tonight they will have to wait till I'm back from holiday.
Hope you guys get some decent winds for the next 2 weeks while I'm away.

John
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 17, 2009, 21:45:11 PM
Jon. Surely you must have a decent mouldie for sale at a great price? I imagine you must have a house full of them  ;)
(i need me a new ship)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 17, 2009, 21:48:36 PM
BTW, Ollie was that you flying low level in the full size over Thurnham today?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Spoons on June 17, 2009, 21:54:22 PM
John,

The only one that I can see selling in the near future is the Skorp F3B.
But she is my slope hack and my main mouldie that I would use at thurnham (As she is very light !)

But I still love it, and it does fly extreamly well.

I do have a Simon_t evolution F3J ship that I'm working on, its a very nice model but old.

The other ones that I have are smashed up mini ellipses and a lekkie mini ellipse, but I would never fly that on a slope ;)

My current F3B mouldies are, Ceres Lift, Ascot and Skorp F3B.

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 17, 2009, 21:58:49 PM
well, i dont condone ANY leccy slope flying unless its me whos doing it so ner!  ;)
Skorp sounds sweet, also sounds expensive  :o
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 17, 2009, 22:00:32 PM
Mr Thornton

I need some spares due to a 'flutter' issue....pm sent
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Spoons on June 17, 2009, 22:02:47 PM
Oh the skorp is sweet, I'll bring it down after my hols for you to have a look at (Providing that its blowin' well !)

I reckon you should look at a 2meter alex. ;D
Quality isn't as good as the more expensive stuff but they fly real nice and are a great price.
saty away from anything blade related.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: BLADE1 on June 17, 2009, 22:24:58 PM
Oh the skorp is sweet, I'll bring it down after my hols for you to have a look at (Providing that its blowin' well !)

I reckon you should look at a 2meter alex. ;D
Quality isn't as good as the more expensive stuff but they fly real nice and are a great price.
saty away from anything blade related.
Blades are cool!! what ya talking about?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Spoons on June 17, 2009, 22:37:32 PM
yeah they make a sound like there going to explode when they dive (No offence !)
I spose you pay your moneys and takes your chances. :af
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: BLADE1 on June 17, 2009, 22:42:30 PM
The blade has been d's d at 201mph! no explosions there.(no offence).
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: tp2fly on June 17, 2009, 23:05:11 PM
Good time at Thurnham, thanks go to Paul and his cooking skills.

Not so good for Concorde, or the Zagi really, far too blustery today :(
Must get myself a Wildthing!  :)
Title: Excellent slope fly-in & BBQ at Thurnham
Post by: Phil.Taylor on June 17, 2009, 23:38:19 PM
Excellent midsummer slope fly-in & BBQ at Thurnham today ! :) :) :)
Good wind, good company, and no paragliders  :)
A great big thank you to Paul Flintstone for manning the excellent neolithic flint & cardboard BBQ

Phil.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: BLADE1 on June 17, 2009, 23:47:54 PM
Whens the next one?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 18, 2009, 09:17:52 AM
Whens the next one?

dunno, but we ought to do it again before the end of the summer, maybe an improtu one when we're all up there and the sun is out, afterall Tesco is only down the road

thanks to everyone who came with supplies yesterday
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on June 18, 2009, 09:28:34 AM
Any more photos ? Rob, Gary...... ?

Who  got one of the PCSO :)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on June 18, 2009, 09:30:35 AM
Southdowns BBQ always taste better  :af

come on Paul when you next coming?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on June 18, 2009, 09:37:50 AM
He has a spot of 'hangar maintenance' to complete first :(
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on June 18, 2009, 10:20:32 AM

P.S Del.... im making my call to TJD... im gonna do it, im gonna do it.........Hurry, hurry. Im gonna push the button, i am, im gonna do it. Just watch me!! ;)

FlyFly ASW-28:
I got mine from aerofever.net, but probably better and not much more expensive via TJD's.

Check it has the 8mm diameter solid carbon rod, some come with an 8mm steel joiner (Cactus has one) - this may be better for the blowier days. 6mm is too small for a ship of this size, hence the wing wobble on the CM Pro Discus, etc.

Don't get the one with the fan upfront !

check this old thread:
Cheap Chinese ASW 28 scale glider (manufactured by Fly Fly) (http://www.rcmf.co.uk/4um/index.php/topic,46391.0.html)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on June 18, 2009, 10:24:30 AM
He has a spot of 'hangar maintenance' to complete first :(
As in the Hanger needs some maintenance or whats in it??
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 18, 2009, 11:26:53 AM
As in the Hanger needs some maintenance or whats in it??

hanger pending

Cobra needs a fix up after it shed one half of the V tail yesterday at the bottom of a long dive, wing tip cracked off, nose sheath thingy brocken off, tail plane slip open  :-\

We'll try and get down to see you before the summer is out Allen..........
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on June 18, 2009, 11:32:38 AM
I thought we were gonna plan a big cross country with BBQ, water stops and a coach at the end to take us back to the carpark 
Oh sorry i think i was dreaming that bit 
but hey we could race back once we know the route  ;D
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 18, 2009, 12:07:35 PM
This is Paul w with the new make shift toilet smack on the hill.....BEEING TESTED !
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 18, 2009, 12:11:29 PM
This is Paul w with the new make shift toilet smack on the hill.....BEEING TESTED !

there's nothing quite like a south westerly blowing round your nether regions
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on June 18, 2009, 12:14:06 PM
Paul has dutifully updated the blog......if you hadn't already clocked it.

Goodwind Slope Soaring (http://www.goodwindsoaring.blogspot.com/)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Phil.Taylor on June 18, 2009, 12:14:15 PM
This is Paul w with the new make shift toilet smack on the hill.....BEEING TESTED !
LOL - precious  ;D

Phil.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 18, 2009, 12:17:19 PM
there's nothing quite like a south westerly blowing round your nether regions

Sorry Paul I just could not resist taking that shot, I hope the glider is back up soon.

Wildthing MK 3 for sale....flies great £45
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on June 18, 2009, 12:24:06 PM
there's nothing quite like a south westerly blowing round your nether regions

watch out for the rotor/curl over from the lip  ;)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 18, 2009, 12:38:24 PM
only two items were missing to complete the experience....an old copy of QFI to peruse, and a cotton bud to dig around in my ear
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 18, 2009, 12:49:50 PM
This is how you finnish up after a BBQ at Thurnham.......Oh boy !....Sorry chaps !

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: BLADE1 on June 18, 2009, 12:52:50 PM
only two items were missing to complete the experience....an old copy of QFI to peruse, and a cotton bud to dig around in my ear
Ahhh......i see....'Stinker'...It all makes sense now.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 18, 2009, 12:54:09 PM
great shots Wob

you can see all the way up his nostrils to the back of his skull in that one of Trev :o
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: tp2fly on June 18, 2009, 13:14:52 PM
LOL.  Good job I blew my nose previously!  ;D
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on June 18, 2009, 13:40:48 PM
thanks go to paul for a great afternoons eating and flying and good company cheers guys
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 18, 2009, 13:43:59 PM
and good company cheers guys

amen to that

more photos Rob!!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 18, 2009, 13:57:41 PM
Thanks for letting me have a go with your Flamingo Colin.....Luved it !

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 18, 2009, 14:49:45 PM
superb!

what about the full size stuff, no one will believe how low they were!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Phil.Taylor on June 18, 2009, 17:01:09 PM
Hey - I'm having a black&white moment there!
nice silhouette shot

Phil.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 18, 2009, 17:35:12 PM
right then chaps, let's see if we can save the patient....
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: BLADE1 on June 18, 2009, 17:47:47 PM
It 'looks' do-able paul.I reckon you'll do that seeing as you've collected most bits.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: BLADE1 on June 18, 2009, 17:58:59 PM
How are you guys managing to upload your pictures?whenever i try it says the 250kb max has been exceeded.Are you making the pictures smaller?reducing quality?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 18, 2009, 17:59:29 PM
going back together as we speak, Zap-a-gap is my friend at the 'delam' stage
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 18, 2009, 18:00:56 PM
How are you guys managing to upload your pictures?whenever i try it says the 250kb max has been exceeded.Are you making the pictures smaller?reducing quality?

yes to both
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 18, 2009, 18:03:54 PM
mine tend to be resized to 640 x 480 at 72dpi and then saved as a mid quality jpeg, keeps the size well below 100k and they are fine for viewing on screen

I believe theres some software out there that'll do it all for you
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: BLADE1 on June 18, 2009, 18:21:49 PM
Ok, thanx.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 18, 2009, 18:40:45 PM
splints in position....
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: BLADE1 on June 18, 2009, 18:44:49 PM
Lookin' good...
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 18, 2009, 19:23:50 PM
How are you guys managing to upload your pictures?whenever i try it says the 250kb max has been exceeded.Are you making the pictures smaller?reducing quality?

Use a SAW to make them smaller....LOL
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on June 18, 2009, 19:25:36 PM
This will bring a tear to Paul's eye ... ah, fond memories ... the Cobra with a tail ...
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 18, 2009, 19:27:02 PM
Use a SAW to make them smaller....LOL

at about 5pm when I couldn't find the wing tip i was seriously considering that route
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 18, 2009, 19:28:31 PM
This will bring a tear to Paul's eye ... ah, fond memories ... the Cobra with a tail ...


when i woke this morning i discovered that a tear soaked pillow does wonders for the complexion
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 18, 2009, 19:31:23 PM
right then chaps, patient has a pulse...but we're not out of the woods yet
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on June 18, 2009, 19:33:47 PM
A pic from yesterday, an epic looking launch from Deryck...
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 18, 2009, 19:34:57 PM
wowzers Gary, that's a money shot!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: BLADE1 on June 18, 2009, 19:36:14 PM
Use a SAW to make them smaller....LOL
Appreciate if you could do me a copy rob.ta.
Mini Blade then,how,when, where,how much?Is it complete?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on June 18, 2009, 19:41:31 PM
Here's the non-money shot ...

Like two peas in a pod eh?

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on June 18, 2009, 19:46:55 PM
Nutha pic
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 18, 2009, 19:47:16 PM
ooohhh you cropped the sausage!

can I steal that one for use elsewhere pls Gary
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 18, 2009, 20:01:50 PM
Ouch paul! That looks like her sun tan will fade at bit before she sees daylight again. (and she will, of that i have no doubt). Unlucky mate, nasty end to a great day (i didnt even get a flight in :'( )

On a lighter note... guess what?...... The Ventus... She flys again. A little help from colin and wob ( who was strangely nice and positive about the whole launch/flight etc, hmm, think he must owe me money or summit).

anyhow, no tip stalls, no blips, no crashes!! 1 more day now chalked up on the board! :)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 18, 2009, 20:05:15 PM
Appreciate if you could do me a copy rob.ta.
Mini Blade then,how,when, where,how much?Is it complete?

It was Very Very Very expensive'ish, I get it next week, the deal is done, and I can't wait, and it is complete with all radio, they fly realy great, slow or fast.

I will keep the software in my car for when I see you F.O.C off course !
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 18, 2009, 20:24:00 PM
superb!

what about the full size stuff, no one will believe how low they were!

Full Size, Not to good a pic. as I only had my 105mm lens with me, but you can see him waving to us.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on June 18, 2009, 20:33:37 PM
can I steal that one for use elsewhere pls Gary

Yep, of course, any pics I put on the forum you can use, no need to ask.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Phil.Taylor on June 18, 2009, 22:31:02 PM
right then chaps, patient has a pulse...but we're not out of the woods yet
Hey - lookin good - and no fingers cyano'd to it (yet)

Phil.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Phil.Taylor on June 18, 2009, 22:34:58 PM
How are you guys managing to upload your pictures?whenever i try it says the 250kb max has been exceeded.Are you making the pictures smaller?reducing quality?
resize pics to 640x480 - medium quality (I use the dreaded photoshop - other s/w will do as well)
and they've just changed things on RCMF so you see a thumbnail pic & have to click on it to see the 640x480 - or is it just me?

Phil.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on June 18, 2009, 23:52:22 PM
Paul,

Just seen the latest addition to Goodwind...    Looks like you have similar tastes to me - intelligent and pretty  :)

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Phil.Taylor on June 19, 2009, 00:13:28 AM
Paul,
Just seen the latest addition to Goodwind...    Looks like you have similar tastes to me - intelligent and pretty  :)
Simon
LOL - drama/Shakespeare student? - or archaeologist?
(neolithic barbecueologist?)

Phil.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: tp2fly on June 19, 2009, 00:28:15 AM
Full Size, Not to good a pic. as I only had my 105mm lens with me, but you can see him waving to us.
Great shot Rob. Didnt know they were waving back at us!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 19, 2009, 07:31:17 AM
Paul,

Just seen the latest addition to Goodwind...    Looks like you have similar tastes to me - intelligent and pretty  :)

Simon

what a dangerous combination!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 19, 2009, 07:35:55 AM
Hey - lookin good - and no fingers cyano'd to it (yet)

Phil.


I find a sharp 'twist' rather than a 'pull' is the answer in such circumstances

I'm pleased to report it looks as if we'll be out of intensive care by the end of today
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on June 19, 2009, 08:46:51 AM
A pic from yesterday, an epic looking launch from Deryck...

Blimey, I need a haircut ! ..... in fact I'm having one today  :)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Phil.Taylor on June 19, 2009, 10:47:10 AM
I'm pleased to report it looks as if we'll be out of intensive care by the end of today
Ooh look - carbon-ness!

Phil.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 19, 2009, 11:44:56 AM
Ooh look - carbon-ness!

Phil.

perhaps i should sand it all back to nakedness?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 19, 2009, 12:08:43 PM
It's pay back time for Goodwind !!

Memories are made of these...LOL

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on June 19, 2009, 12:33:13 PM
like your style paul happy birthday goodwind , brought tears to my eyes, i see ray is setting his sights on bigger models :D
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 19, 2009, 12:37:17 PM
lovely shots, well we all know the answer to number two photo now ::)

what's the wind doing up there chaps?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 19, 2009, 12:38:16 PM
like your style paul happy birthday goodwind , brought tears to my eyes, i see ray is setting his sights on bigger models :D

you had a lucky escape Colin!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on June 19, 2009, 12:42:53 PM
not sure what you mean by lucky ?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 19, 2009, 12:44:12 PM
lovely shots, well we all know the answer to number two photo now ::)

what's the wind doing up there chaps?

John Boy is phoning me shortly, (MY MAN THAT LIVES ON THE HILL).

He thinks that Simon, himself, and me will be off to Farthing common = W NW he's phoning me at 1.30
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 19, 2009, 12:46:50 PM
This Goodwind site gets better and better, well done Paul its wicked !

Goodwind Slope Soaring (http://www.goodwindsoaring.blogspot.com/)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 19, 2009, 12:56:11 PM
John Boy is phoning me shortly, (MY MAN THAT LIVES ON THE HILL).

He thinks that Simon, himself, and me will be off to Farthing common = W NW he's phoning me at 1.30

don't you know....that's 'their' hill?

let me know how things progress, I'll come and join in
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 19, 2009, 14:01:52 PM
don't you know....that's 'their' hill?

let me know how things progress, I'll come and join in

We are just leaving for Farthing Common.....it's now, our slope....as I have JSmack with me...LOL
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Phil.Taylor on June 19, 2009, 15:51:49 PM
and for something a little different - a Haiku* about Wednesday:

good slope, good wind blows
barbeque burgers and beer
fly and fly - great day

Phil.

* Haiku - Japanese verse form with 5,7,5 syllables
(there's a whole long thread of them on RCG sailplane talk)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 19, 2009, 16:03:20 PM
We are just leaving for Farthing Common.....it's now, our slope....as I have JSmack with me...LOL

I've bummed out, got some work stuff to sort.....hope you get on ok chaps
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 19, 2009, 16:07:59 PM
and for something a little different - a Haiku* about Wednesday:

good slope, good wind blows
barbeque burgers and beer
fly and fly - great day

Phil.

* Haiku - Japanese verse form with 5,7,5 syllables
(there's a whole long thread of them on RCG sailplane talk)


your style and sophistication will be lost on most of the others Phil ;)
maybe if the gods decree you'll be able to join us again some time
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Phil.Taylor on June 19, 2009, 17:02:41 PM
your style and sophistication will be lost on most of the others Phil ;)
maybe if the gods decree you'll be able to join us again some time

good slope, good wind, good company, barbeque burgers and beer, fly and fly - great day   :)

There you go - what's not to understand?

Phil
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 19, 2009, 18:35:07 PM
good progress in the last few hours, wing glassed, aileron back in one piece and tailplane expoxied shut

you can see in the tailplane foto that the thing must have popped open along the line of an old repair once it started to flutter
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: MooSey on June 19, 2009, 18:48:38 PM
This Goodwind site gets better and better, well done Paul its wicked !

Goodwind Slope Soaring ([url]http://www.goodwindsoaring.blogspot.com/[/url])


You're right.
There's a pic of Dr Alice Roberts.
After watching 'Incredible Journey' I have decided she's really quite fit :af
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on June 19, 2009, 18:53:26 PM
you can see in the tailplane foto that the thing must have popped open along the line of an old repair once it started to flutter

Or maybe it popped open along the line of the old repair just before it started to flutter?

Simon (just got back home - anything you want me to look for Paul?)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 19, 2009, 19:00:28 PM
Or maybe it popped open along the line of the old repair just before it started to flutter?

Simon (just got back home - anything you want me to look for Paul?)

it's all coming together rather well, so unless you have Dr Roberts' phone number there I think I'm ok cheers Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 19, 2009, 19:13:30 PM
I've bummed out, got some work stuff to sort.....hope you get on ok chaps

You didn't miss much, very turbulent until you got out there, lift no lift, lift no lift, but we got some flying in + Simon we think got a ticket for speeding up the M20, could have been worse.....could have been me  LOL
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on June 19, 2009, 19:14:25 PM
it's all coming together rather well, so unless you have Dr Roberts' phone number there I think I'm ok cheers Simon

If I has Dr Roberts phone number I can guarantee I would not be on here talking to you!!!

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 19, 2009, 19:19:12 PM
If I has Dr Roberts phone number I can guarantee I would not be on here talking to you!!!

Simon

 ;D

the new 'thinking man's crumpet'
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on June 19, 2009, 19:23:22 PM
;D

the new 'thinking man's crumpet'

Always liked her on Time Team, even with the Red hair.  I think she was on 'Coast' on the Great Orme.  What a combination - great soaring and Alice   :-*

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 19, 2009, 19:25:57 PM
any of you doods have a 69 or 71 tx crystal i can beg for/borrow/pinch/rent/buy? :co
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 19, 2009, 19:30:27 PM
any of you doods have a 69 or 71 tx crystal i can beg for/borrow/pinch/rent/buy? :co

GOT 73 & 80 you can have F O C
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 19, 2009, 19:34:58 PM
I have just had an email from Steve with the NEW WHISPER that he flew for the first time the other day....you guysin the know might know what he is on about......I've had mine come vertical in on 2.4 for NO real reason, here's what he said.

(I had a great time on Wednesday. One problem I had was when I landed a couple of hundred yards back and went to pick up the model the control surfaces were moving, my transmitter was on the ground and switched on.
 
I was wondering if someone may have been using a non CE approved 2.4Ghz transmitter which I believe are much more powerful than ours.
 
I have changed the receiver to a Spektrum AR7000 dual receiver which I am hoping will help.)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 19, 2009, 19:38:46 PM
What a combination - great soaring and Alice   :-*


I'm not sure whether to wet myself or relieve myself!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on June 19, 2009, 19:43:27 PM
Extremely unlikely that even a non CE Tx would cause a problem.  Much more likely is carbon or other screening in Fuz, poor Rx antenna positioning, or inadequate Rx Battery (historically Spektrum has been more sensitive to battery voltage, even short term spikes, than FaSST).  The 2.4 links are pretty robust.  Even a brand new battery may cause a problem.  worst type is high capacity NiMH, AAA, followed by AA.  Eneloops, Vapex Instants and Nicads are all good - they have much lower internal resistance and don't drop voltage under load.  Also check switches and wiring - lots of opportunities for problems there.  2.4 won't help with the majority of wiring, servo, switch, solder joint problems...

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 19, 2009, 19:53:50 PM
Extremely unlikely that even a non CE Tx would cause a problem.  Much more likely is carbon or other screening in Fuz, poor Rx antenna positioning, or inadequate Rx Battery (historically Spektrum has been more sensitive to battery voltage, even short term spikes, than FaSST).  The 2.4 links are pretty robust.  Even a brand new battery may cause a problem.  worst type is high capacity NiMH, AAA, followed by AA.  Eneloops, Vapex Instants and Nicads are all good - they have much lower internal resistance and don't drop voltage under load.  Also check switches and wiring - lots of opportunities for problems there.  2.4 won't help with the majority of wiring, servo, switch, solder joint problems...

Simon

Thanks Simon I will pass the info. on to Steve  :af
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 19, 2009, 19:55:59 PM
Simon_t    Congratulations on being my 200th post....you win a fly with my Weasel Evo....enjoy...LOL
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 19, 2009, 21:27:45 PM
Extremely unlikely that even a non CE Tx would cause a problem.  Much more likely is carbon or other screening in Fuz, poor Rx antenna positioning, or inadequate Rx Battery (historically Spektrum has been more sensitive to battery voltage, even short term spikes, than FaSST).  The 2.4 links are pretty robust.  Even a brand new battery may cause a problem.  worst type is high capacity NiMH, AAA, followed by AA.  Eneloops, Vapex Instants and Nicads are all good - they have much lower internal resistance and don't drop voltage under load.  Also check switches and wiring - lots of opportunities for problems there.  2.4 won't help with the majority of wiring, servo, switch, solder joint problems...

Simon

Simon

I emailed Steve, this is what he said he had happen.

(Many Thanks to you and Simon, I would have thought all those possible problems would probably cause a signal loss, what I was getting looked like controlled movement of the servos as if by another transmitter.
 
I will check all those possible causes mentioned and with the addition of the AR7000 dual receiver hopefully this will cure the problem
 
Many Thanks again
 
See you on the slopes !
 
Steve).............Rob
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on June 19, 2009, 21:34:33 PM
Come on Steve, I know you are out there lurking.... get yourself registered  :af
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 19, 2009, 21:41:24 PM
Come on Steve, I know you are out there lurking.... get yourself registered  :af

I think Steve must be shy Deryck, does he lurk on here then?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: SteveW1965 on June 20, 2009, 00:43:31 AM
Here I am !  yes its Steve that other bloke from Essex. All registered and ready to go.

In answer to mr fantastic the receiver was the new Spektrum AR6250 Carbon receiver. Binding was done after all control surfaces were setup and the Tx is the DX7

Steve.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 20, 2009, 09:16:57 AM
Here I am !  yes its Steve that other bloke from Essex. All registered and ready to go.

In answer to mr fantastic the receiver was the new Spektrum AR6250 Carbon receiver. Binding was done after all control surfaces were setup and the Tx is the DX7

Steve.

Hi Steve it's good to see you on here.......and I would like to make you an offer for your Whisper.....£20 :xx

See you on the slope !
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 20, 2009, 10:10:48 AM
Welcome to the Forum Steve. You shall now be known as "Bumfluff" by way of initiation.

Arise Bumfluff!! :D
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: swarrans on June 20, 2009, 10:11:49 AM
any of you doods have a 69 or 71 tx crystal i can beg for/borrow/pinch/rent/buy? :co
Danger Danger Will Robinson!  I fly on 71 John.
Anyone got a 71 dual conversion Futaba rx crystal for sale?

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 20, 2009, 10:13:29 AM
I have a single conversion 71 corona mini Rx you can have as you are on 71. Anyone got a 69 TX reciever then? lol
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 20, 2009, 10:15:45 AM
whats the diff between single and dual conversion then?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: swarrans on June 20, 2009, 10:30:57 AM
whats the diff between single and dual conversion then?
The dual con double samples the incoming signal (well the receiver electronics does) - basically the crystals aren't compatible with each other.  The transmitter crystals are the same though.

Simon 
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 20, 2009, 10:32:16 AM
does that mean that DC is better?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 20, 2009, 10:37:09 AM
I've got a 72 single conversion tx xtal that's spare

or a yellow/orange AM split

or a brown AM rx xtal you could borrow.....
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: swarrans on June 20, 2009, 10:53:10 AM
does that mean that DC is better?
Theoretically yes, but I think it comes down to the manufacturer/basic quality really.

Those super cheap Corona 8 channel dual conversion synthesised receivers are hard to beat!

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: SteveW1965 on June 20, 2009, 17:49:39 PM
Thanks for the offer Rob, that will cover the cost of the postage nicely  :)

I had a look at Farthing Common on the map its a few to many miles for me, is there anything closer for a North Westerly ?

Steve
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 20, 2009, 18:21:16 PM
Thanks for the offer Rob, that will cover the cost of the postage nicely  :)

I had a look at Farthing Common on the map its a few to many miles for me, is there anything closer for a North Westerly ?

Steve


Its looking good for Minster I O Sheppey Monday,Teusday, Wednesday NE 14mph if you fancy it Steve.

Links for checking I use    http://www.xcweather.co.uk/   Hover mouse over where you want to fly.

http://www.iossc.org.uk/weather/index.php    Click on LIVE WIND
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: ryan2 on June 21, 2009, 00:22:04 AM
wow you guys are catching up with us proper cornish lads
post wise  :af
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on June 21, 2009, 06:15:48 AM
Thanks for the offer Rob, that will cover the cost of the postage nicely  :)

I had a look at Farthing Common on the map its a few to many miles for me, is there anything closer for a North Westerly ?

Steve
Ivinghoe beacon is probably your best bet for a NW, very good lift there for that direction. About 1hour 10 from where I live but worth the trip if its west or NW.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 21, 2009, 08:27:35 AM
right then chaps, seeing as it's the longest day we've got to get some air time in some where.....looks like there'll be a slot out on Minster early afternoon before it swings round too far east (I suppose if we're feeling brave we could always move onto Lee's patch :o)

who's out to play then?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 21, 2009, 08:39:53 AM

Got to go fricken skateboarding at the new Brixton skatepark with my son ...


that's some shizzle hot dizzle wit da boy....yo a top dad ma man and no messin!

reeeespek!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on June 21, 2009, 09:05:35 AM
Have fun those of you that manage to 'escape'...... Surely Father's day entitles one to a special pass of sorts ?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 21, 2009, 09:07:07 AM
Surely Father's day entitles one to a special pass of sorts ?

It's not us that you need to convince!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 21, 2009, 09:14:17 AM
well, im about. cant be asred with sheppy though. poxy wind!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 21, 2009, 09:51:09 AM
on my 200th post i will let you all fly Wobs blade!  :'' :af
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 21, 2009, 10:08:21 AM
on my 200th post i will let you all fly Wobs blade!  :'' :af

Ain't got no Blade.................YET ! you can have a go...if...I can land your Ventus :xx

It might be OK for a spot of sea wall flying at Leysdown from 4pm with a light weight chappie, lots and lots off NE from Wednesday onwards.

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 21, 2009, 10:13:00 AM
wow you guys are catching up with us proper cornish lads
post wise  :af

I luv Cornwall, been there many times, luv the pasties, just can't afford a UMBERELLA at the moment...LOL, every time I go there it BL**DY rains.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 21, 2009, 14:46:19 PM
IOSSC is showing 8mph easterly XC is giving NW coming round NE

what's to do

Shellness has a sea wall that faces east, and low tide is around 4ish

anyone??

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 21, 2009, 14:56:25 PM
IOSSC is showing 8mph easterly XC is giving NW coming round NE

what's to do

Shellness has a sea wall that faces east, and low tide is around 4ish

anyone??



I think it will stay E NE at Leysdown, me and John boy are going, as you drive to the other side of Leysdown if there's not to many people in the first car park, we will be there, if not next car pak with cafe towards Shellness....see ya there if ya go Paul, I'm leaving now
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 21, 2009, 15:51:59 PM
well, im about. cant be asred with sheppy though. poxy wind!

What ya mean im going? im not!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 21, 2009, 19:06:43 PM
where were ya Smacko?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 21, 2009, 20:10:18 PM
i was enjoying un verre du vin dans le jardin, actually, un boteille du vin dans le jardin. with mowing the lawn, weeding and dog walking thrown in. I actually popped up to thurnham (without glider) and missed a cracking Westerly, which was very short lived, as it cycled and then blew a bang on 2kt easterly.minster is a bit iffy for me, i cant seem to get enthusiasm to get there!  :embarassed:
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 21, 2009, 20:13:52 PM
where were ya Smacko?

Smacko speak wiv fork tounge, he say he going...he no show.....we scalp Smacko !

Some pics from Sea wall flying today at Shellness, wind was 5mph-10mph....I think Easterly.

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 21, 2009, 20:27:32 PM
ohhh very nice Rob, shame about the male model!

did I see some other flyers at Warden on my way home?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 21, 2009, 20:30:56 PM
ohhh very nice Rob, shame about the male model!

did I see some other flyers at Warden on my way home?

I didn't look, but it would be young Steve with his mum I bet.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 21, 2009, 20:32:14 PM
minster is a bit iffy for me, i cant seem to get enthusiasm to get there!  :embarassed:

you're just another one of those 'big air' tarts aren't you ::)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 21, 2009, 21:01:55 PM
YUP!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on June 21, 2009, 23:39:02 PM
YUP!

Thurnham isn't big air by a long chalk !

You're coming on our next south downs outing Smacko  :af
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: swarrans on June 22, 2009, 06:35:31 AM
Me too please!  I've still got to maiden my Discus plus my 2 new gliders purchased over the weekend  ;D

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on June 22, 2009, 07:39:27 AM
PROPOSED DATES FOR TWO SOUTH DOWNS BIG AIR MISSIONS:

SAT JULY 11TH

SUN AUG 9TH

Any takers?

August 9th is the F3F Nationals at Long Man or Butts on the South Downs, so we could check out some inspiring flying and then head off to another site to fly. 

July 11 is no particular date except it's the only day in July I have available!  My wife has booked me up for a gruelling run of weddings etc!

Or of course we could do a week day.  That would be better in some ways.  But I think I'll do those in addition to the above weekend slots.  I'll keep an eye on the forecast and ask if anybody's up for one of those at shorter notice.





 

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 22, 2009, 08:03:53 AM
my preference would be for a weekday, last time I went down there it was a Saturday and it was very very busy, and I do mean very busy
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: swarrans on June 22, 2009, 08:05:08 AM
Anytime good for me (slacker!)

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Mark 250 on June 22, 2009, 08:51:04 AM
my preference would be for a weekday, last time I went down there it was a Saturday and it was very very busy, and I do mean very busy
Paul it's not always as crowed as that, last time I was at bopeep it was 25mph great lift and there was was only myself Lee and Trevor. Most of the people on that day you were down only fly on a Saturday.
Mark.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on June 22, 2009, 08:54:25 AM
PROPOSED DATES FOR TWO SOUTH DOWNS BIG AIR MISSIONS:

SAT JULY 11TH

SUN AUG 9TH

Any takers?

August 9th is the F3F Nationals at Long Man or Butts on the South Downs, so we could check out some inspiring flying and then head off to another site to fly. 

July 11 is no particular date except it's the only day in July I have available!  My wife has booked me up for a gruelling run of weddings etc!

Or of course we could do a week day.  That would be better in some ways.  But I think I'll do those in addition to the above weekend slots.  I'll keep an eye on the forecast and ask if anybody's up for one of those at shorter notice.


NO NO NO!!!
It's my anniversary on the 12th of July I'll be in France!!!

I made a thread called the southdowns ridge run so it would not get lost in here

Week day is the best for me and if we are to abuse as much slope as possible it will also be less crowded

dont want to walk a mile down the ridge then get shot down by someone back where we started
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 22, 2009, 08:59:42 AM
shallwe continue the discussion here then-  http://www.rcmf.co.uk/4um/index.php/topic,52463.0.html

afterall we don't want to catch up with the Cornish chaps too quickly.....
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 22, 2009, 09:22:02 AM
whatever it is, count me in. if its weekday i may need a bit of notice so i can book it off, but im down with you groovy cats and ya South dood mish mash man! :af
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 22, 2009, 09:23:34 AM
although it looks like being NE for the next six months! *sigh*  :'(

Any good slopes near here offer a NE. Slope with enough space to land the Ventus or Kunlun and no NSEW, i cant/wont land out on the beach at Warden bay lol
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on June 22, 2009, 09:26:33 AM
Our NE is one is one of out best slopes (on a week day)  :af
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 22, 2009, 09:28:22 AM
can u send a map link Allen? maybe post it on your thread?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 22, 2009, 09:29:00 AM
although it looks like being NE for the next six months! *sigh*  :'(

Any good slopes near here offer a NE. Slope with enough space to land the Ventus or Kunlun and no NSEW, i cant/wont land out on the beach at Warden bay lol

in all seriousness John, the Ventus would be ideal at Minster....smooth coastal lift in a north easterly, lots of long grass to land it in....
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 22, 2009, 09:31:40 AM
it would get nicked at minster. lol. where abouts do you mean Paul? Just by imperial ave? would mean crosswind landing though with lots of nice bushes to break the wings off with.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 22, 2009, 09:36:28 AM
ooh, you were my 200th post. you get a week on Wob's Blade when he gets it!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 22, 2009, 09:41:24 AM
This would be the best place for a round the back approach, just in the dip before the path climbs up to the cliffs. You can do a standard 'round the back' and the air's pretty smooth.

On the shallower banks you could also drop down low, come up and across towards yourself, turn it into wind and park in down in the long grass
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 22, 2009, 10:37:16 AM
in all seriousness John, the Ventus would be ideal at Minster....smooth coastal lift in a north easterly, lots of long grass to land it in....

Paul,    Smack needs the whole of Sheppy for landing, I saw him at Farthing Common, hmmmm thinking about it so do I.

I think the bigger jobs would be ok where you say, down in the dip just before the cliffe.

Colin from Northfleet asked me to give him a phone call when we next go to Minster, so I know John Boy will go.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 22, 2009, 10:48:09 AM

Colin from Northfleet asked me to give him a phone call when we next go to Minster, so I know John Boy will go.

Colin will show you boys 'the way' don't you worry...
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on June 22, 2009, 12:23:24 PM
scroll down this page Rob, you might just recognise something  :''

Dream-Flight :: Fun, Simple, and Affordable R/C Soaring For All
      Skill Levels! (http://www.dream-flight.com/archives.html)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 22, 2009, 13:59:40 PM
scroll down this page Rob, you might just recognise something  :''

Dream-Flight :: Fun, Simple, and Affordable R/C Soaring For All
      Skill Levels! ([url]http://www.dream-flight.com/archives.html[/url])


Cheers Deryck, that's just doubled the value of my, your old Alula :af

I want first shout on your Alula Evo.....when you get bored with it ;)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 22, 2009, 14:01:03 PM
Rob, I've nicked a couple of your fotos for the blog

payment in kind at a later date.....
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on June 22, 2009, 14:07:35 PM

I want first shout on your Alula Evo.....when you get bored with it ;)

I thought you already had one on pre-order ?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 22, 2009, 14:11:09 PM
I thought you already had one on pre-order ?

Not once I knew you were getting one.....LOL, I let Colin get the Weasel first as well.

Oh well of to Holly Hill for a couple of hours now, it's a hard life!!!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on June 22, 2009, 15:09:42 PM
can u send a map link Allen? maybe post it on your thread?

If you go to Slopes A-B - Slopehunter guide to slope soaring sites (http://www.slopehunter.co.uk/5.html) and scroll down to Butts Brow you'll get the map etc - plus Bopeep Hill is the other good NE near there.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: SteveW1965 on June 23, 2009, 01:04:56 AM
Rob, here is a link to the Alula vid

YouTube - Alula Triple On Holly Hill (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yvev0ZSkAfw)

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 23, 2009, 10:29:32 AM
Rob, here is a link to the Alula vid

YouTube - Alula Triple On Holly Hill ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yvev0ZSkAfw[/url])




Hi Steve, thanks for the vid. It was lucky we got chance fora fly, NO wind for half an hour then 3-5mph SE for a while.

Blimey your mate is into the Alula's, he loved it, and getting his for £30 was a steal, to be honest I thought my weasel flew better than my Alula, I got away up there a couple of times, sorry I had to leave early for cooking duties, see ya at Minster WED, THURS. FRIDAY, I can see young Steve buying a small bit of foam soon, his Wildy don't go in 3/5mph.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on June 23, 2009, 10:37:43 AM
I want to retire ! Right now ;)

Lucky gits.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 23, 2009, 10:44:58 AM
I want to retire ! Right now ;)

Lucky gits.

Yeh I know what you mean Deryck.

Steve and his mate from Essex love it on the slopes.....cos....in Essex they slope of off Hedgehogs it's so flat!!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on June 23, 2009, 11:19:17 AM
I've ordered the new Alule evo.  I've been a bit dismissive of Alulas in the past, but I have to admit they have a unique role, and the new 'bird shaped' version just floats my boat. 

Also, it's made from the same foam as Multiplex planes (whereas the Weasel is made from EPP).  I know from experience that if I leave an EPP plane in a hot car it deforms, whereas the Alula's Arcel (as Dreamflight call it) doesn't. 

So the Alula will be a plane I can leave in the car constantly and fly off any tiny ridges I come across on the spur of the moment.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: tp2fly on June 23, 2009, 11:29:48 AM
I want to retire ! Right now ;)

Lucky gits.
Ive retired!   :D
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on June 23, 2009, 12:29:10 PM
I've ordered the new Alule evo.  I've been a bit dismissive of Alulas in the past, but I have to admit they have a unique role, and the new 'bird shaped' version just floats my boat. 

Also, it's made from the same foam as Multiplex planes (whereas the Weasel is made from EPP).  I know from experience that if I leave an EPP plane in a hot car it deforms, whereas the Alula's Arcel (as Dreamflight call it) doesn't. 

So the Alula will be a plane I can leave in the car constantly and fly off any tiny ridges I come across on the spur of the moment.

I often worry about leaving my stuff in a hot car during summer, I didn't know that about Elapor/Arcel - good to know !

Are mouldies safe  :o ??
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on June 23, 2009, 12:30:55 PM
Rob, here is a link to the Alula vid

YouTube - Alula Triple On Holly Hill ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yvev0ZSkAfw[/url])




Good stuff Steve, once you have your Whisper fully sorted and tuned I reckon you'll be able to slope/thermal that in next to no wind.....
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 23, 2009, 12:31:07 PM
I've ordered the new Alule evo.  I've been a bit dismissive of Alulas in the past, but I have to admit they have a unique role, and the new 'bird shaped' version just floats my boat.  

Also, it's made from the same foam as Multiplex planes (whereas the Weasel is made from EPP).  I know from experience that if I leave an EPP plane in a hot car it deforms, whereas the Alula's Arcel (as Dreamflight call it) doesn't.  

So the Alula will be a plane I can leave in the car constantly and fly off any tiny ridges I come across on the spur of the moment.


I'm waiting to see if it's any better than the old Alula, it strange that secondhand Alula's are fetching loads a money on EBay, more than the price of the new one delivered from the States, I like the way they PING around, I think they are great.

 
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 23, 2009, 13:03:36 PM
Just off to Minster or Warden, it's started to show E NE going to more NE 15mph soooooooo it's Wild'y and Weasel time.......Any one coming, if so park at Seathorpe Avenue car park, F O C, and turn right towards the cliffe, see ya there unless you are one of those strange people that WORK.......Bad Word ! Trevor come on and bring your fox.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on June 23, 2009, 13:15:09 PM
..... are one of those strange people that WORK.......Bad Word !
Don't mock the afflicted :(
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: swarrans on June 23, 2009, 18:34:39 PM
I want to retire ! Right now ;)

Lucky gits.
Well, there are certain financial disadvantages Deryck!...and I kinda miss (some) of the Visteon/Ford crowd...

I accidentally bought 2 more scale gliders at the weekend that I'm not skilled enough to fly.  I might have to rent a professional pilot at this rate!

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 23, 2009, 18:46:15 PM
Well, there are certain financial disadvantages Deryck!...and I kinda miss (some) of the Visteon/Ford crowd...

I accidentally bought 2 more scale gliders at the weekend that I'm not skilled enough to fly.  I might have to rent a professional pilot at this rate!

Simon

I'll fly them Simon. KABOOM !

It was not to bad at Minster flying with RAY.

We flew near Imperial Avenue, and all of a sudden there was a 3 metre balsa floater thing comes over our heads, I said to Ray that guy flying that must have good eye sight, as it was about 1/4 mile away from where he was flying from, then the guy walked over to us......it was DUKE having a great time, the wind was slightly off today but not bad.

Any body going over Minster tomorrow, should be good !

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on June 23, 2009, 19:03:59 PM

I accidentally bought 2 more scale gliders at the weekend that I'm not skilled enough to fly.  I might have to rent a professional pilot at this rate!

Simon
Oooh tell us more...... Any photos ?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 23, 2009, 19:05:39 PM
good to hear the chronologically challenged sect are as frequency safety savvy as every....
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: tp2fly on June 23, 2009, 21:36:50 PM
Just got back from Minster. Spent a couple of hours there just floating around with my Fox, it was very relaxing! Was lying down flying it.
Funny thing was , a couple of guys and a girl were walking up watching the glider but couldnt see me, and as I had it flying quite high, the girl thought it was a real one, I dived it vertically to the deck and the girl screamed thinking a real one was about to crash!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on June 23, 2009, 21:41:43 PM
Anyone who can make girls scream gets my respect.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: swarrans on June 23, 2009, 21:43:05 PM
Oooh tell us more...... Any photos ?
I'll take a couple tomorrow Deryck but one is a 2m Geriasis (?) Fox and the other is a Graupner 2.5m Swift (unflown and very nice).

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on June 23, 2009, 21:44:20 PM
Funnily enough there's a geriatric fox in my back garden at the moment...
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on June 23, 2009, 21:52:41 PM
I'll take a couple tomorrow Deryck but one is a 2m Geriasis (?) Fox and the other is a Graupner 2.5m Swift (unflown and very nice).

Simon


Oh it was you that ended the auction early was it  ;copper;  !!
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=120436325925

I was watching that !
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 24, 2009, 08:43:02 AM
what time you doods going to minster today then?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: swarrans on June 24, 2009, 08:49:28 AM
Oh it was you that ended the auction early was it  ;copper;  !!
[url]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=120436325925[/url]

I was watching that !

Guilty as charged!  The Fox is not as good as it looked on eBay - those photos of the damage didn't do them justice!  But on the plus side I got the gorgeous Swift too....
Actually the damage on the Fox may be a blessing as I won't be so concerned about (trying) to fly it..

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on June 24, 2009, 09:00:24 AM
Simon, I have a 60" Fox (not the foamy one) and it is a fantastic little glider. One of my first true slope planes, I learnt a lot from it. It is very aerobatic like the full size and a good looking scale model IMHO.

Look forward to seeing it bust some moves !
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on June 24, 2009, 15:57:54 PM
Looks pretty blowy today out of the window. What was the flying like then ? (directed at the 'men of leisure') ;)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: swarrans on June 24, 2009, 17:42:12 PM
Looks pretty blowy today out of the window. What was the flying like then ? (directed at the 'men of leisure') ;)
I hate to tell you this Deryck but it was fantastic (and still is for some - I've just got home).
My Fox is about 80* I guess and I couldn't be more happy with it - it flew beautifully (especially when Alan flew it!) and it looks great in the air...
It is highly aerobatic and yet I still didn't kill it and had several successful landings.  It was a truely great day's flying.

John also had a fantastic time with his Ventus and was throwing it around like no-one's business.  I think we've managed to dispel these tip-stalling deamons!

Sorry you weren't there Deryck, but someone's got to keep the economy going!

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on June 24, 2009, 18:27:40 PM
Photos please !

Glad you guys enjoyed yourselves.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 24, 2009, 18:37:05 PM
i have to back up simon's post. His Fox looked the nuts and flew just as well. It was a really good afternoons flying today. Wind was 25mph ENE but constant and creating enough lift to enable you to put your plane where you wanted it. As Simon said, the Ventus flew a cracker, and was nicely doing wingovers and minor (still a beginner) aero's. Wob, was extremely gracious( although i would never say that to his face) and had the wildthing on the deck mostly, so we newbs could practice our "crunchie" skills!(Alan whipped about not even noticing us as only he can do),  However, Wob's sarcasm was boiling up inside and every now and again a little squeak of "landing/crashing/ducking", etc etc sneaked in but not bad for him to be fair. ;) Me and Simon cant wait for the day when he gets a decent crunchie, and boy oh boy, will we milk that cow for all it's worth!  ;D :D
Duke and Ray made a welcome appearance and young Steve showed his face before moving on and hugging the cliff area. :P
You missed a good 'un chaps!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: swarrans on June 24, 2009, 18:42:03 PM
Photos please !

Glad you guys enjoyed yourselves.

Ah, that was the bit I forgot to do - I'll take one tomorrow of the Fox and Swift together

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 24, 2009, 18:45:48 PM
yeah. might take the video camera tomorrow if it the same!  :)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 24, 2009, 18:48:27 PM
BTW mr Paul.w........ you were correct about minster  :D
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 24, 2009, 19:31:38 PM
sounds like you had a cracking time chaps

I'm going to do my best to get off the capatalist hamster wheel on Friday afternoon, so hopefully we'll have a fair wind to play with then

good to hear you're 'coming on' it looks like we'll have to find some new newbies to entertain us.....
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: tp2fly on June 24, 2009, 20:59:25 PM
Got to Minster just after you lot left apparently. Rob, Duke, Ray etc were still there though so had a fly with them.  New one to me, flew from the car park sittting on a bench behind a hedge, very relaxing!  Then flew the Fox from there all the way to the cliffs, mini cross country!  :)
 Unfortunatley had an unscheduled 'arrival' with the Fox, nothing lots of glue cant fix!
 Thanks for the fly of your Wildthing Rob, you might just pursuade me!  ;D
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on June 24, 2009, 21:02:55 PM
Did you get any photos today Rob ? Sounds like it was a cracker.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 24, 2009, 21:15:59 PM
Got to Minster just after you lot left apparently. Rob, Duke, Ray etc were still there though so had a fly with them.  New one to me, flew from the car park sittting on a bench behind a hedge, very relaxing!  Then flew the Fox from there all the way to the cliffs, mini cross country!  :)
 Unfortunatley had an unscheduled 'arrival' with the Fox, nothing lots of glue cant fix!
 Thanks for the fly of your Wildthing Rob, you might just pursuade me!  ;D

It got even better when JSmack left, The wind I mean ! Steve from Essex turned up with his Balsa wing , which young Steve saw as a good target, but luckily missed it.........BUT.....his brand new Whisper was flying around great, lots of aero stuff along with good landings......all apart from the last one, I don't know what went wrong but dropped a wing and in she went nose first and snapped the nose off, but I'm sure it's repairable, shame really as we were having such a good time, we all clocked off at 8.15.......not long till tomorrow.
I thought you would like flying the Wildthing Trevor, they are very good, hope you fix the Fox OK, I told you not to go on that there cliff with that nasty nasty Rotor/Turb.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 24, 2009, 21:18:25 PM
of course he didnt bring his camera with him. we didnt end up in bits.  I swear thats not a camera but a Curse!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 24, 2009, 21:26:16 PM
of course he didnt bring his camera with him. we didnt end up in bits.  I swear thats not a camera but a Curse!

Watch it PAL!!......I gave you loads of nice comments today, I was going to give you and Simon your wings......but now you can wait!! Camera will be with me tomorrow matey, and the bin bags, lots and lots of them.

Seriously though, I do think you both did very well.....nice to see, I'm going now before I start welling up.....LOL :nananana:
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on June 24, 2009, 21:49:55 PM
You guys are crazy ... shouldn't you be talking more about good manly technical stuff like servo torque values or something?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 24, 2009, 22:12:57 PM
You guys are crazy ... shouldn't you be talking more about good manly technical stuff like servo torque values or something?

You are right, and I would like to know how the foam is actually made on my weasel + the density, to help me understand how it bounces so well upon arriving with terra firma, plus the torque values on the Tower pro 9g could come in very handy to help me work out the expo I should use for flying inverted in a 40 mph blow + why does Dreamflight supply magnets with black dots on them, and why does he post the weasel in a Banjo shape box, instead of a square one....very strange...not me.....the box!!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on June 24, 2009, 22:54:58 PM
Great to hear you had such a good time on Sheppey today.  I really like that area.  I had never been to Sheppey before until recently and I thought it was great, real hidden gems of pleasant coastline etc.  It's too far for me to go to often, but with its good slope soaring spots and friendly people, I might look into moving there one day.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on June 25, 2009, 08:41:41 AM
I reckon you could buy property there and make money on it.  It's a nice area close to London, yet undervalued so far, so I reckon it's bound to go up.  But anyway, I'm straying from the plane discussion...
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: swarrans on June 25, 2009, 10:01:54 AM
The pictures of my recent buys:-
The 2m Geriasis Fox.
(http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee324/swarrans/P1000282copy.jpg)
The 2.54m Graupner Swift (immaculate and unflown with nice air brakes).
(http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee324/swarrans/P1000286copy.jpg)
The two together to show the somewhat different proportions.
(http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee324/swarrans/P1000284copy.jpg)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 25, 2009, 10:10:43 AM
hmmmmm nice!

we'll have to get some video some time soon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on June 25, 2009, 10:22:15 AM
Did you get the swift from the same guy as the Fox ?
I have decided I need some new big scalies now, that's done it for me......
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 25, 2009, 10:25:49 AM
a 1/3rd scale ASW24 would push most of my buttons.....fully moulded of course ::)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 25, 2009, 10:51:47 AM
Anybody coming to play today, the wind looks the same as yesterday and the camera is ready to rock.

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: swarrans on June 25, 2009, 11:01:14 AM
Anybody coming to play today, the wind looks the same as yesterday and the camera is ready to rock.
I think I may have to...

Yes Deryck, I got the Swift from the same bloke but I don't think he's got any more gliders - but I have asked him to send me a list when he sorts through them all (he bought a huge number of planes, engines etc from a bloke giving up).

It's curious really 'cos I reckon the Swift is about circa 2003 but hasn't been flown (or if it has it must have landed in cotton wool!)

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: swarrans on June 25, 2009, 11:04:27 AM
Did you get the swift from the same guy as the Fox ?
I have decided I need some new big scalies now, that's done it for me......

How about the 5m Salto on eBay? - that looks lovely!.....

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 25, 2009, 11:23:44 AM
Anybody coming to play today, the wind looks the same as yesterday and the camera is ready to rock.



I'd love to but I've got to keep the nose to the grind stone today

make sure your supply us with plenty of fotos Rob, a few crumbs of vicarious pleasure might help us through til the next session :-\
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 25, 2009, 11:37:21 AM
Trevor, have you put the Fox back together, was it the turbulence on the back of the cliff that did it, I like the Cliff but trying to land is a nightmare.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: swarrans on June 25, 2009, 12:29:34 PM
Are you definitely going today Rob?  I don't want to be Billy No Mates again....

I'll give John a call but i think he's working....

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on June 25, 2009, 12:39:52 PM
How about the 5m Salto on eBay? - that looks lovely!.....

Simon

got a link Simon ?

IOSSC cam is showing Easterly by the way.....  :''
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on June 25, 2009, 12:40:41 PM

I'll give John a call but i think he's working....


You've answered a question I've always wanted to ask !  :D :D
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: swarrans on June 25, 2009, 12:46:42 PM
got a link Simon ?

IOSSC cam is showing Easterly by the way.....  :''


Oh, thanks for the wind info - it's a long drive for nothing...

Salto is here GLIDER LARGE SCALE SALTO  BY KRAUZE 5MT!! on eBay (end time  22-Jul-09 22:52:09 BST) (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GLIDER-LARGE-SCALE-SALTO-BY-KRAUZE-5MT_W0QQitemZ120438754918QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_ToysGames_RadioControlled_JN?hash=item1c0ab58e66&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12)|66%3A2|39%3A1|72%3A1688|240%3A1318|301%3A1|293%3A1|294%3A50
Not too cheap and a bit geographically challenged, but worth a drool!...

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on June 25, 2009, 13:14:01 PM
got a link Simon ?

IOSSC cam is showing Easterly by the way.....  :''
if your after more models the shows on in essex this w/end they got a bring and buy
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on June 25, 2009, 13:32:54 PM
if your after more models the shows on in essex this w/end they got a bring and buy

Thanks Colin, I used to do the shows but thesedays with my limited stick-time it just takes me away from the slope !
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 25, 2009, 15:45:04 PM
shiney happy wing tip seeks automotive paint spray for long term relationship

enjoys hilly walks and going round in circles, recently had its guts split open at the end of a short abusive affair so caring types only please
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 25, 2009, 17:01:46 PM
Ive got a tin of Satin black kicking around. I would be happy to completely F**K your model up for you, for a small fee of course!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 25, 2009, 17:37:17 PM
I would be happy to completely F**K your model up for you, for a small fee of course!

nah tis ok, I gave it a good and proper effing up last week at no cost

having said that, i could be talked round on the satin black...kind of reborn in a stealthy stylie

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: swarrans on June 25, 2009, 17:53:26 PM
shiney happy wing tip seeks automotive paint spray for long term relationship

enjoys hilly walks and going round in circles, recently had its guts split open at the end of a short abusive affair so caring types only please
What do you want done Paul?  Sprayed to match the original or something completely new?  My next door neighbour is an airbrush artist who sprays the MacLaren F1 cars...

I'm afraid the flight today with my Fox didn't go as well as yesterday and ended with a hard landing - it will fly again though.  I should have heeded Deryck's sage words - there was much too much East in the wind (although strangely Alan managed to fly his Discus without too many problems (how does that work?!)

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 25, 2009, 18:01:39 PM
What do you want done Paul?  Sprayed to match the original or something completely new?  My next door neighbour is an airbrush artist who sprays the MacLaren F1 cars...

Thanks for the offer Simon, I've stocked up from Halfords now and will be relying in the good of rattle cans and hot water method, followed by 1000grit, T-Cut and wax of the turtle, should be good to go early next week.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 25, 2009, 18:54:07 PM
Just a couple of pics. from today at Minster, the wind was a little off today, in attendance was Alan from Dartford, Simon, Duke and myself.

Sorry the pic. of your fox is not better Simon but I was over 100 yards away.

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: swarrans on June 25, 2009, 20:41:47 PM
The launch shot is rather good actually Rob (best bit of the flight unfortunately!).  I was puzzled at first because I looked at your first photo and I kept thinking "Well I'm b&gg£red if I can see my 'plane!..."

The repairs are underway, but unfortunately I've been forced to drink a vat of wine so I had to stop.... :af

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 25, 2009, 20:43:44 PM
1. i dont mind breaking a plane if you can get a shot of me like that! what a cracking pic wob! (says he throught gritted teeth lol).

2. Paul w. I have some compound if you want to borrow a bit. (much better than t-cut)
3. How bout going Satin black with some nice yellow flowers on it for visibility? or maybe a pic of Dr Roberts under each wing so you try harder to land it safely?  ;) (harder being the operative word my good man *nudge, nudge*)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 25, 2009, 20:57:20 PM
P.S Simon, the Fox may be bruised, but that swift really does tick all the right boxes. well done mate.  :af
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 25, 2009, 21:04:44 PM
P.S Simon, the Fox may be bruised, but that swift really does tick all the right boxes. well done mate.  :af

I didn't help when I told Simon to stick to foam, but I did let him have a go on my Wildthing cos his battery was flat on his, I think that E in the wind sent the turbulence over that field which is the landing area, when it's up the slope, it's OK......I THINK !....sounds good to me.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: tp2fly on June 25, 2009, 21:13:32 PM
Trevor, have you put the Fox back together, was it the turbulence on the back of the cliff that did it, I like the Cliff but trying to land is a nightmare.
Hi Rob, havnt repaired the Fox yet but wont take long.  Unfortunately it wasnt the back of the cliffs that got me it was the front! :(
Happened to me twice now, if I do a roll too far to the left of the cliff the plane seems to lose all aileron response and goes into the face of the cliff!  Might learn third time round!  ;D
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 25, 2009, 21:15:39 PM
or maybe a pic of Dr Roberts under each wing so you try harder to land it safely?  ;)


phwooorrrr! now that would be one way of getting me to improve my inverted repertoire!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 25, 2009, 21:16:37 PM
anyone notice we're steaming ahead of the Cornish thread now?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: tp2fly on June 25, 2009, 21:18:31 PM
Dr Roberts is rather fit!  She can give me mouth to mouth anytime!  :D :co
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on June 25, 2009, 21:18:58 PM

phwooorrrr! now that would be one way of getting me to improve my inverted repertoire!

I suspect you might have difficulty letting go on launch though...

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 25, 2009, 21:19:06 PM
anyone notice we're steaming ahead of the Cornish thread now?

They be too busy munchin dem Paaaassties to be wroighting on dem messaaaage booards!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: tp2fly on June 25, 2009, 21:23:27 PM
If Dr Roberts was at the slope I wouldnt have a problem keeping it up, the plane that is!  ;D
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 25, 2009, 21:32:53 PM
well, as bl***Y usual, this weekend looks set to grant us......... B***er all wind. Its always something isnt it? Think i will take up power flying. this wind lark just aint playing ball!! :banghead:
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on June 25, 2009, 21:36:37 PM
Yep, I noticed that, it looks like no wind for a week.  Out of desperation I might have to go to the Wings n Wheels show...
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 25, 2009, 21:41:23 PM
leave your wallet at home gary! thats an order sir!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on June 25, 2009, 22:20:50 PM
Dr Roberts is rather fit!  She can give me mouth to mouth anytime!  :D :co
she  can give me mouth to mouth all of the time
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on June 25, 2009, 22:24:10 PM
well, as bl***Y usual, this weekend looks set to grant us......... B***er all wind. Its always something isnt it? Think i will take up power flying. this wind lark just aint playing ball!! :banghead:
john thats why you got a motor on the front of your kunlun in it ? :''
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: tp2fly on June 25, 2009, 23:31:52 PM
Think i will take up power flying

Blasphemy!!! >:(
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: tp2fly on June 25, 2009, 23:44:35 PM
Oh my God! Michael Jackson has died!  :'(
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on June 26, 2009, 07:35:56 AM
I reckon it's just a trick to get out of his debts and commitment to stage shows next month.

It would be so easy to arrange a bit of theatre in terms of a paramedic vehicle turning up to his home and a mannequin under a sheet. 

Years from now they'll discover he's alive and well and running a chip shop in Woking.

 
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: DelUK on June 26, 2009, 08:17:14 AM
......or in Sheerness.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 26, 2009, 08:51:39 AM
ive got tickets to see him live. Any offers anyone?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: Allen the soarer on June 26, 2009, 09:04:30 AM
I thought they took him to take place in Wales to live with Elvis, in that town where the big while balloons come and get you if you try to escape?  :study: :''
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 26, 2009, 11:39:11 AM
Easterly today 11mph so Colin and myself are of to Leysdown to fly the sea wall, maybe a try at Warden as well.

I am going to try and talk Colin into flying from Leysdown to the nude beach at Shellness and back = 2 miles..ish, will take the camera and maybe some interesting shots towards Shellness, Col might get his kit off, I feel sick now...LOL, if anyone else is coming we will get there for 2ish, second FOC car park the other side off Leysdown park top right hand corner Nr sea wall.
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 26, 2009, 12:47:24 PM
2ish, second FOC car park the other side off Leysdown park top right hand corner Nr sea wall.

I try snd get there about 2.30ish chaps
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 26, 2009, 13:01:59 PM
hold on a sec xc weather is giving 6mph sw for Headcorn,is it worth trying Thurnham?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on June 26, 2009, 14:31:22 PM
I am going to try and talk Colin into flying from Leysdown to the nude beach at Shellness and back

Try and get a photo of one of you doing a low pass with nudists in the background, that would make a fantastic photo for the Goodwind blog or the Slopehunter website!

Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: KeithB on June 26, 2009, 15:09:23 PM
hold on a sec xc weather is giving 6mph sw for Headcorn,is it worth trying Thurnham?
Hi, what weather link to do use to see what's good for Thurnham then?
Ben
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: GP on June 26, 2009, 16:03:08 PM
Wind Map - Britain Observations (http://www.xcweather.co.uk)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on June 26, 2009, 18:42:54 PM
I try snd get there about 2.30ish chaps
where were you then we flew warden bay and the wall that disguise of yours really good paul had us both fooled, warden bay wasnt too bad at least we did fly for a while, rob will tell you the rest of what we got up to /
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 26, 2009, 19:31:01 PM
rocked up to the wall about 3.30ish no sigh of anyone!! (my bad on the timing, got caught up with stuff)

went out to Minster for a quick flight, bit scratchy but worked ok
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on June 26, 2009, 19:56:22 PM
you only just missed us then we waited till 3.15 then went warden bay well at least you got a fly as well catch you over the w/end cheers :af
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 26, 2009, 20:00:15 PM
oh what a bummer

sorry I missed you chaps, I considered stopping off at Warden but just passed on by :(
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 26, 2009, 21:19:32 PM
Hi, what weather link to do use to see what's good for Thurnham then?
Ben

ask me and i will tell ya exactly :af
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: N S E W on June 26, 2009, 21:30:20 PM
ask me and i will tell ya exactly :af

Are you on the vino again John Boy ;)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 26, 2009, 21:33:53 PM
well, i bought a great deal on ebay today! (continue reading)
Saw a Discus 2.6 on ebay with servos for a buy it now of £65

Offered £40 and got refused, Offered £50 and got accepted. Drove to Sandy, near bedford (96 miles), hit a traffic jam for about 45 mins. got there, looked at plane, all seemed fine, paid, left.

Hit 12 mile tailback at 5mph b4 dartford crossing (major stress), got home, looked at plane properly and....grrr.

1. elevator servo stripped
2. "small repair" to tail was a complete snap off repaired with pink halfords glass, very badly done, disguised with electrical tape
3. tail had been set so bad that fin is set forward so much that tail incidence has been offset by about 15 degrees to compensate.
4. tail is lateraly(wow, spelt wrong) offset by about the same degrees, ie, completely Pi***d in relation to the wings)
5. rear incidence peg tube not glued in so as you cant insert incindence peg without octopuss fingers.
6. Right wing aileron servo stripped
7. glass applied around canopy and not filled so canopy dosent fit properly#
8. canopy has no "cut out for the locking pin to secure
9. also canopy has no locking pin at front so, yes, the canopy just "lays" on the fuz.
10. rudder servo horn worn so slips.
11.wings warped!!

I guess my advice is......... regardless of traffic issues, DO NOT presume all is fine with a model because at first glance it looks a "deal"

oh, well, im onto ebay now to reclaim  what i can!!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 26, 2009, 21:37:13 PM
the 4.8v battery was working fine though, just got to work out how to get the 20oz lead weight epoxied to it off though! lol
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 26, 2009, 21:39:50 PM
the 4.8v battery was working fine though, just got to work out how to get the 20oz lead weight epoxied to it off though! lol

the vendor will be getting positive feedback then?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 26, 2009, 21:41:32 PM
vendor getting Knifed my good man! cost me 20 sheets there and back but worth the Pain!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: simon_t on June 26, 2009, 21:42:49 PM
I assume you forgot to take your guide dog with you?

Simon
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 26, 2009, 21:45:41 PM
yeah! reading it back is a kinda head slap experience, but, traffic blah blah blah, £50 quid means you dont look properly, plus it had been disguised quite well. i mean i didnt take a reciever and tranny with me etc etc. anyway sssh, you get yours for free, so ner!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 26, 2009, 21:50:29 PM
plus the fact they're only 75quid new, and you could stick a few of those £2 micro servos in it in about the same time it took you to get to Sandy and back....

(not really trying to add insult to injury)
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 26, 2009, 21:52:25 PM
Paul, show me the link for them @£75 quid and i will give you £5 for your trouble!!
Cheapest i saw was £89.99 and they are all out of stock of them now, as they not making any more!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 26, 2009, 21:58:01 PM
anyhoooo. Paul , can you fix my pwane? its bwoken! :af pwease?
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 26, 2009, 21:58:21 PM
maybe that was when they first came out then...or was it 79 quid...I can't remember....you'd still be quids in though and have a flyable (if you can call them a flyable, excluding the one time I saw Simon fly his) and brand new model!

or to look at it another way, you could have stayed at home all afternoon and been 80 quid closer towards a proper mouldie...
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 26, 2009, 22:00:21 PM
anyhoooo. Paul , can you fix my pwane? its bwoken! :af pwease?

I'll give it some attention if you want, have you got any replacement servos to go in it? how about your northern mate, I hear he's got a bucket full of those cheapy ones
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 26, 2009, 22:03:29 PM
yeah, but they are the ones hes stripped. i think it averages 2 per flight now!
i got hs82mg's ready to slot in. its not the servos im woreied about, its the "brewers droop" tail lol!
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 26, 2009, 22:05:29 PM
woreied

"worried"
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: paul w on June 26, 2009, 22:07:06 PM
yeah, but they are the ones hes stripped. i think it averages 2 per flight now!
i got hs82mg's ready to slot in. its not the servos im woreied about, its the "brewers droop" tail lol!

bring it with you next time, I'll do a re-cut and shut

seeing as you've got girl's hair I'll take payment in kind behind the cow shed
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: colpick53 on June 26, 2009, 22:17:04 PM
just have to put it down to experience john we all have to live and learn some are not so lucky as others , there are plenty of good models for sale usually through people you know just have to be in the right place at the right time, just keep looking and dont loose hope your get there  :af
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 26, 2009, 22:21:55 PM
blimey, a "cut and shut"! sounds illegal...... im in!!
oh bugger, i forgot about the payment in kind issue...... here's to England!! :ev
Title: Re: South East Flyers
Post by: J.smack on June 26, 2009, 22:27:21 PM