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Title: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on March 12, 2014, 08:25:14 AM
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The proper one seems not to be working again this morning, perhaps the system is creaking under the sheer weight of hot air produced by thread.....

I have fixed the original thread so it displays and renamed this one so it can continue. If I find a solution to the issue I will merge the two threads.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on March 12, 2014, 08:26:48 AM
just realised I left the apostrophy out of the thread title...sorry  :embarassed:
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: SpringHead on March 12, 2014, 08:51:00 AM
Well done Paul, thanks for taking the initiative.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on March 12, 2014, 17:51:19 PM
Pics from monday...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on March 12, 2014, 17:52:54 PM
More...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on March 12, 2014, 17:53:57 PM
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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on March 12, 2014, 17:55:08 PM
This one is a fake, I photoshopped a real Duo Discus and mine in the same pic ... just because I enjoyed the real Duo Discuses flying over while I had my model one there ...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on March 12, 2014, 17:56:51 PM
And of course the real highlight of the day, Simon's remarkable gargantuan scratch-built model on its slope soaring maiden...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on March 12, 2014, 17:58:55 PM
And it flew great!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: peter_burgess on March 12, 2014, 19:31:08 PM
At Last the forum is working again!
Good to see that  you chaps had a good time on BoPeep east, we had a good time on Bopeep west! One of the short comings of life is that it is difficult to be in 2 places at once!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on March 12, 2014, 21:57:41 PM
Since we flew both places at the same time, it's interesting to try to work out which is best. 

The east one (where I was) has possibly smoother air, but possibly slightly less lift (it's a bit lower). It is a ridge, so you can fly a long way left and right and still be in lift.

The west one is has possibly more lift, but probably more turbulence.  It is a bowl so it probably concentrates the wind a bit more.  But it is probably not as good for flying large models a long way to the left and right. 

I used to think the east one was worth the longer walk, but actually if the west one has more lift and is a much shorter walk, I'm now thinking maybe the west one is a better choice ...

What do others think?

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Allen the soarer on March 12, 2014, 22:32:49 PM
The "Old guys" all fly Large models at the west bowl but dont tend to fly the bowl they fly so high that they are no longer restricted by the bowl

I vote for the west bowl

But I also agree the east bowl has its place
Smoother due to a cleaner slope
Not as much lift due to being a ridge that does not consetrate the lift but also is no as affective in small direction changes
I think in a true steady NE that it could better, but when does that ever happen ?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Allen the soarer on March 12, 2014, 22:34:05 PM
Reposted
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50ZYWJt-sjg
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Allen the soarer on March 13, 2014, 09:21:05 AM
ESSA F3F this Sunday
if the conditions stay the same it should be flown on the lower west slope of the LM and landing is likely to be at the top  :)
I expect to see GP there unless he has a very good excuse
There is even talk of a foamie/newby class if enough turn up  $%&
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on March 13, 2014, 09:38:34 AM
Quote from: BLADE1
Glad everyone had a good time at the 'peep'!
What was the windspeed there?

It was about 15 to 20 mph Paul, the wind was slightly off the hill
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Allen the soarer on March 13, 2014, 09:40:19 AM
It was about 15 to 20 mph Paul, the wind was slightly off the hill
It was about 15 to 20  20 to 35 mph, the wind was slightly off YOUR hill  :''
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Allen the soarer on March 13, 2014, 14:27:26 PM
Just been up Bopeep for lunch
Pillows sat everywhere
even I could not stay up for more that a couple of minutes
beautiful though!!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on March 13, 2014, 17:53:14 PM
As no one else has posted it on this forum so far, here's the video evidence of the two flights of Simon's wonderful machine at Bopeep East on Monday!  :af

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBjQb9JLUec#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBjQb9JLUec#ws)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on March 13, 2014, 19:46:35 PM
Quote from: blade1
Count me in for thermally Farthing Common!! :af
It looks like Farthing Common could be the only place soarable in Kent on Sunday.
Anyone up for it? - I'll be there with my 'Storm'.
Unfortunately not quite enough of a blow for the ASG29, Simon.

For those who haven't been there, take a look at Mr Goodwind's excellent video shot at the site.
I might even take my 40 year old 'Countryman' along as well.
Car park opposite the site, walk across the road, pass through the gate and 20 paces later launch - QED!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgkhN3k_e5M (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgkhN3k_e5M)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on March 14, 2014, 19:01:32 PM
Got a family gathering on Sunday...managed a quick 'no mates' half hour up at Thurnham this afternoon though
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: SpringHead on March 14, 2014, 19:06:29 PM
It looks like Farthing Common could be the only place soarable in Kent on Sunday.
Anyone up for it? - I'll be there with my 'Storm'.
Unfortunately not quite enough of a blow for the ASG29, Simon.

For those who haven't been there, take a look at Mr Goodwind's excellent video shot at the site.
I might even take my 40 year old 'Countryman' along as well.
Car park opposite the site, walk across the road, pass through the gate and 20 paces later launch - QED!

Is this where you are going Eric?
Lyminge, Folkestone, Kent CT18 8DH ‎ 

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on March 15, 2014, 09:13:15 AM
That's it . . . .and you can put the missus and toddler in the garden centre while you're there.  ;)

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on March 15, 2014, 11:35:41 AM
Got a family gathering on Sunday...managed a quick 'no mates' half hour up at Thurnham this afternoon though
I also had a couple of 30 minute 'Billy no mates' sessions during the week but on the Isle of Sheep in a nice nor' easter - very pleasant.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: BLADE1 on March 15, 2014, 23:32:34 PM
Does look good for the 'Common tomorrow but,promised the littl'un we would all go to the park sunday :banghead:
Could ask the misses I suppose :xx,but then I would have to suffer the backlash!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on March 16, 2014, 09:52:14 AM
Sorry you can't make it Paul, maybe next time.
There's still a touch of north in the westerly at Thurnham which makes it all fall apart there, so I'm heading off to the Common shortly where there hopefully will be a steady force 3 - 4. I should be there by about 11am, but it looks like I'll be 'Billy no-mates' again!  :'(

Edit @ 21:00 hrs
Yes, I was 'Billy no mates' at the Common, but the smooth lift in the west wind with a tad of north in it was excellent . . .  and I had it all to myself. :af  Also took the opportunity to explore some more slopes in the Folkestone area which have been made accessible by the establishment of new ridge top routes of the North Downs Way - should be good for some summer cross country expeditions.

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on March 17, 2014, 06:54:20 AM
Eric, it's good to hear that the Common delivered...hopefully it'll be more of a group outing next time.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on March 19, 2014, 08:00:32 AM
I'm planning on doing a bit of flying at Thurnham lunchtime today.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on March 19, 2014, 08:50:35 AM
I'm planning on doing a bit of flying at Thurnham lunchtime today.

I might just do that too!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on March 19, 2014, 19:28:37 PM
Bit nippy at Thurnham today, the pleasant forecast didn't quite make it ... but never mind, the flying was fine.
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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on March 19, 2014, 21:42:39 PM
Nippy is an understatement!

Friday is looking a little brighter though, maybe another session then?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on March 20, 2014, 06:28:33 AM
I'd be up for that.  Maybe even try the big un  at Thurham?....

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on March 20, 2014, 07:38:10 AM
I'd be up for that.  Maybe even try the big un  at Thurham?....

Si

Absolutely!!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on March 20, 2014, 07:43:59 AM
Good idea ... but I think you'll have to be cautious.  I suspect the lift yesterday would not have been quite enough.

My Prismaray flew fine, but I could not gain much height.  Paul (Blade1) did not dare fly his 7 metre model.  Friday looks like it might have similar conditions.  I'm sure you could do it, because you're good at milking lift, but you won't have much room for error. 

I wonder what the optimum wind speed is for maximum lift at Thurnham?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Allen the soarer on March 20, 2014, 08:28:29 AM
May have to have an extended Lunch today and pop up the LM to maiden the Schwing  :af
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on March 20, 2014, 08:30:28 AM
Hey, you got the Schwing!  Enjoy your session.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Allen the soarer on March 20, 2014, 09:29:05 AM
Hey, you got the Schwing!  Enjoy your session.
not sure if Im keeping it
as had very conflicting reports
but hopefuly I will come back after lunch with a big grin and positive reports  :xx
not so sure putting it on BMFA with the reason for selling being that I hate it and its sh1t will help it sell lol
Im sure I will love it  :''
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on March 20, 2014, 09:38:01 AM
not so sure putting it on BMFA with the reason for selling being that I hate it and its sh1t will help it sell lol
Im sure I will love it  :''

Doesn't that translate as- 'flies great, just not my cup of tea. I prefer something faster/slower/more scale' etc etc
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on March 20, 2014, 10:31:28 AM
I'd be up for that.  Maybe even try the big un  at Thurnham?....
Si
I'll be there . . .
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Allen the soarer on March 20, 2014, 14:17:52 PM
Nope not my cup of tea  ;D
Anyone fancy a Kazoo Schwing
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Allen the soarer on March 20, 2014, 22:32:54 PM
New project under way

Gary should like this one

2m glass Jart

CAD work done and cardboard mock up made
not quite happy, few mods needed
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on March 21, 2014, 07:50:21 AM
Come on, why not  a 4 metre Jart?  Or 3 metre at least.  If you're going to the trouble of scratch building a Jart, a large one would be amazing, whereas 2 metres would be a bit "Oh, a slightly bigger Jart, whatever."

Did you mean it when you said you don't like the Schwing?  I've seen them fly great.  However, I think once we're used to F3F models, anything a bit smaller perhaps doesn't seem so great.  I do think the Schwing is a very nice model for what it is through.

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Allen the soarer on March 21, 2014, 08:49:47 AM
The schwing is not a bad plane, it flys amazing, just does not belong anywhere
It's to fast for a sports model but no good for F3F
just has no place in my fleet.
F3F is about alround speed in all conditions the schwing would not be fast on a light day
IMHO to fast for a good aerobatic model, (at the LM I ran out of bowl) a ridge or cliff would be better.
not sure what market this model was aimed at ?
A FAST sports model for 15-40mph I guess.
I cant slate the plane but if clarkson reviewed it he would say "it's like a Ferrari at a rally"
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Allen the soarer on March 21, 2014, 08:51:11 AM
Come on, why not  a 4 metre Jart?  Or 3 metre at least.
Cutting cores over 1m is a pain in the ar5e
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Allen the soarer on March 21, 2014, 09:40:45 AM
Oh and I have learnt my lesson when it comes to BIG models
Yes they look fantastic and fly fantastic and you get "strokes" from all the slopers
But its just no worth it IMHO.
Takes up a large amount of your hanger
Almost kills you getting it to the slope
Is often the only model you can carry
Only take the tiniest problem to gound it
Hard to enjoy the flight
The flight window is usually small
I am backing way from BIG models, I would rather watch someone elses  :af
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: peter_burgess on March 21, 2014, 09:55:06 AM
not sure what market this model was aimed at ?
But the Schwing is selling all over the world (UK, Europe, USA, Aussie, Far East, etc...)
 :)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on March 21, 2014, 11:16:25 AM
Oh and I have learnt my lesson when it comes to BIG models
Yes they look fantastic and fly fantastic and you get "strokes" from all the slopers
But its just no worth it IMHO.
Takes up a large amount of your hanger
Almost kills you getting it to the slope
Is often the only model you can carry
Only take the tiniest problem to gound it
Hard to enjoy the flight
The flight window is usually small
I am backing way from BIG models, I would rather watch someone elses  :af

How very dare you!!

Everything you say is completely true of course though Allen!

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Allen the soarer on March 21, 2014, 12:05:28 PM
Talking of small models
First batch of Dream-Flight Libelle are entering the country in the next few days already have homes to goto but one is MINE ALL MINE wahaaaaa
all paid for and I will soon be soaring ANTHING that generates enough lift   :af

First on the list is my roof followed closely by my office, hedge rows, parked cars, the list will be endless   :D
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on March 21, 2014, 12:47:50 PM
Yeah, it's interesting what you say about big models Allen.  I slightly miss the days when I had one simple model always in the car ready to go, and I would just stop by flying sites on the way past for a quick, simple fly. 

I find my 5.3 metre Duo Discus a bit of a faff to get out of the loft and into the car etc, I'm a bit lazy or impatient or something.  Flies great though. 

So I think I'll always keep a couple of small models, a couple of mid models and a couple of large models.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on March 21, 2014, 12:48:54 PM
Speaking of models, I came across this Bob Carlos Clarke photo and thought it might amuse ...

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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: The Saint. (Owen) on March 21, 2014, 13:03:49 PM
 :D :D :D

I want one.  ;D
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Allen the soarer on March 21, 2014, 13:11:24 PM
Whats the RC for ?
that position suits me just fine,
cant imagine how tricky it would be to set up a mix for the washing up  :D
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on March 21, 2014, 20:09:10 PM
Oh and I have learnt my lesson when it comes to BIG models
Yes they look fantastic and fly fantastic and you get "strokes" from all the slopers
But its just no worth it IMHO.
Takes up a large amount of your hanger
Almost kills you getting it to the slope
Is often the only model you can carry
Only take the tiniest problem to gound it
Hard to enjoy the flight
The flight window is usually small
I am backing way from BIG models, I would rather watch someone elses  :af
Hi Allen, Good to see you last week.

After seeing Simon's 7.2 metre 25 kg ASG 29 flying this afternoon at Thurnham, I'll comment on your post as follows:

Yes they look fantastic and fly fantastic and you get "strokes" from all the slopers - yes agreed, the model and Simon received many complimentary comments.

But its just no worth it IMHO - IMHO Simon's 700 hours building his Big 'Un was definitely worth it.

Takes up a large amount of your hanger - Simon has a big 'hanger' and resulting from his clever designing of the structure, the longest piece of the ASG 29 is only 1.8 metres. :)

Almost kills you getting it to the slope - Simon is still alive after the 1/2 mile uphill trek to Bopeep East, however the 100 metre stroll to the Thurnham slope was much more preferable. ;)

Is often the only model you can carry - Simon has a dedicated ground support crew and they carry the spare models. :af

Only take the tiniest problem to ground it - Simon has applied the KISS principle to his beautifully engineered ASG 29 so that cuts down on the possibility of tiny problems occurring. :xx

Hard to enjoy the flight - if you had seen Simon doing loops, chandelles and four and eight point rolls with his beast then you would have been in no doubt that he was enjoying himself. Possibly not during the first exploratory launch at Thurnham but once launcher Paul W had sussed out a better launch point, Simon was able to enjoy both the subsequent launch and his immaculate low speed landings.

The flight window is usually small - The windspeeds that the ASG 29 can fly in on the slope seem to range from about 12 mph to well over 30 mph (which it was gusting to this afternoon) which is quite acceptable and, not really working at it, Simon was able to clock up a speed of 115mph - more to come I am sure! However, holding the radar gun as it shot over our heads was a bit nerve wracking for me though!  :o - everyone else rapidly disappeared out of the line of fire!!

I am backing way from BIG models, I would rather watch someone else's. - Everyone enjoyed watching but I'm sure that Simon enjoyed it even more than the rest of us - 700 hours of building time very well rewarded!  :) :)  You'll love it when you see it in the air next time we are on the South Downs, Allen.

PS - Keep your eyes peeled for a video of the afternoon's activities from our resident video guru, Mr Goodwind.

PPS - and for those of us who like things that are big, here's 'something for the weekend' for you to enjoy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MdVPqDQeRE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MdVPqDQeRE)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Allen the soarer on March 21, 2014, 20:27:25 PM
I was refuring to myself and not Simon
If I had Simons Life I would have 1400 hours of models  ;)

Whats the next project Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on March 21, 2014, 21:51:10 PM
After seeing Simon's 7.2 metre 25 kg ASG 29 flying this afternoon at Thurnham, I'll comment on your post as follows:

Did Paul do a solo launch? :D
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on March 21, 2014, 22:07:45 PM
Did Paul do a solo launch? :D

David and Charlie were my able assistants this tie round, the first was a 'comedy' launch (didn't feel it at the time though!) the second was a lot better, Eric captured all....hopefully I'll get onto the editing early next week!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: peter_burgess on March 22, 2014, 10:02:57 AM
Hey chaps, keep an eye on next Wednesday's weather, it might be northerly  :) Firle maybe  :af
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on March 22, 2014, 16:09:41 PM
Hey chaps, keep an eye on next Wednesday's weather, it might be northerly  :) Firle maybe  :af
I'll be working unfortunately

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on March 22, 2014, 18:01:48 PM
I'll be working unfortunately

Si

me too, sadly
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: SpringHead on March 22, 2014, 19:07:44 PM
Anybody out flying tomorrow, if so where and can I come please?


Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on March 23, 2014, 08:07:34 AM
me too, sadly
I'll be working on the Isle of Sheep on Wednesday, so I'll be able to have a quick fly at lunchtime  :af
. . . and afterwards I might see this clever chappie!  ???

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Anybody out flying tomorrow, if so where and can I come please?
As it's forecast NWish today, I think you are going to be out of luck Martyn, unless you fancy the trek to either Firle Beacon or Farthing Common - I believe both are equidistant for you.
I can't go flying today as I have some work to do on the car for its MOT. . . and there's a few gardening tasks lined up for me.
Best of luck.

Edit 22:15hrs - Had to go to Planet Thanet this morning so chucked a model into the car just in case and was able to have a couple of hours of excellent soaring at Bishopstone Cliffs on the way back this afternoon in the company of a friendly paraglider.  :af  Gardening didn't get done!

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Allen the soarer on March 24, 2014, 22:05:43 PM
Any of you guys fancy a Schwing before it finds it's way on to BMFA cas ??
£400
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Allen the soarer on March 25, 2014, 08:49:22 AM
BMFA it is then  ;)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on March 26, 2014, 06:32:43 AM
I saw the new video on Goodwind Soaring of Simon's big ASG flying at Thurnham, it looks like it flew really well there, plenty of lift for it. Well done Simon.

(My favourite bit is at the end where Simon flies it down the lane and into the pub and dips its nose into a beer).

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Allen the soarer on March 28, 2014, 09:07:04 AM
Another new toy in the post  ;)
http://www.islandmodels.ie/index.php/aermacchi-mb339-pss (http://www.islandmodels.ie/index.php/aermacchi-mb339-pss)
My first PSS
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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on March 28, 2014, 09:13:11 AM
Looks like we've got a couple of nice Holly-days at the weekend.
I'll be there at sometime over the weekend, just got to get my car through its MOT first.  :xx

Another new toy in the post  ;)
My first PSS
Interesting!  :af
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on March 28, 2014, 16:18:23 PM
Looks like we've got a couple of nice Holly-days at the weekend.

I'm hoping to get out tomorrow after a few non-flying weeks  :D
Thinking of either Beachy Head (day trippers could be an issue there) or go to Ivinghoe...although unsure what the SE slope is like there, anyone flown it?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on March 28, 2014, 21:19:02 PM
I'm also feeling a bit tempted to get to Beachy Head.

Unfortunately I can only do Monday, but I think the wind might be too southerly by then. The main slope faces ESE, any wind between SE and E is great. (People often think Beachy Head must be south-facing because it's on the south coast, but look on the map, it's almost directly east.)

The walkers are definitely going to be an issue. When they see a plane coming in to land, they all converge on the landing zone to get a close look. It's quite alarming!

http://www.slopehunter.co.uk/5.html (http://www.slopehunter.co.uk/5.html)

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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on March 28, 2014, 23:45:57 PM
Looking good for Holly tomorrow morning. If my car passes its MOT retest first thing then my next stop will be Holly Hill.

Thanks for posting your excellent picture of Simon and me at Beachy Head with your PrismaRay in the foreground. It looks like Simon is flying my Phase 6 but his model, the Luna I believe, was out of shot at the time.

Met office shows a nice easterly Monday but unfortunately I won't be able to make it as I'll be stuck in the office getting all the end-of-year project reports completed. :'(
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on March 29, 2014, 07:53:01 AM
DIY for me all weekend  :'(
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on March 29, 2014, 09:00:44 AM
I've just realised how few slopes we have for when the wind is in the E to SE direction. 

Beachy is perfect for that, but where else?  Holly is more for S to SE.  Butts has an E bowl, but it is slightly NE, I don't think it would be much good for anything south of E.  Butts also has a separate minor SE bowl, quite a hike away, seldom used, I guess that would work but it's not worth travelling any distance to. Hindover Hill would work ("High and Over"), but again that is a minor and seldom used site (very popular with paragliders though). 

Anyone know of any other slopes for E to SE winds?



Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Allen the soarer on March 29, 2014, 09:09:51 AM
Butts has a slope over the SE side over the golf corse
More of a foamie slope IMO

Butts East is a bowl and will take ENE through to ESE
and a SE can be flown on the far ridge with good DSing over the back in (north slope side)

Beachy head will take ESE though to SSW moving from whitbread hollow round to the far bowl to the right of the pub
and as you say high and over if to windy for pillows

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on March 29, 2014, 09:50:06 AM
Looking good for Holly tomorrow morning. If my car passes its MOT retest first thing then my next stop will be Holly Hill.
Passed!  :uk:
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Allen the soarer on March 29, 2014, 14:35:17 PM
Beachy Head was Epic today :)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: SpringHead on March 29, 2014, 16:44:20 PM
If anybody has bought or is going to buy a Dream Flight Libelle do yourself a massive favour and DO NOT use Hitec HS-35HD, they are the worse servo ever!
I bought 4, centred all the control horns etc, fitted them, they worked fine. This morning I went to set up the plane and an aileron servo went mad to say the least (it was fine last night), it was jumping all over the place and I had very little control over it.
There are no stocks of new HS-35HD in the UK (which in hind-sight is a blessing) so I found a couple of other little ones (New Power XL-3.7) I fitted these and was just about to balance the plane and the elevator servo started doing something very similar to the other faulty one (it was fine this morning), the air was blue for about 5 minutes. I must also mention that the HS-35’s are too fragile, I destroyed both the good and faulty one removing it from the wing.
I can’t believe that a company who on the whole manufactures pretty good kit put their name to the HS-35HD.
I was warned by Rich from T9 not to use these but had already ordered them.
Take heed people

PS I have a lot of experience with different servos and electronics and to my knowledge I haven’t done anything to cause these faults.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Allen the soarer on March 29, 2014, 17:41:52 PM
I have Libelle
but I have ordered 4x tower pro 50s £10 fot the lot  lol
worth every penny of £2.50
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: SpringHead on March 29, 2014, 19:30:55 PM
I just gave mine it's maiden, seems ok but you need to something to the vertical stab/rudder, I epoxied mine and it still fell off (no damage) re glued with 1 hour epoxy
I seem to have an aileron that's bent, once lined up at the outer point of the wing it's about 5 mm+ different at the other end FFS
But for a foam DLG it's ok


Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on March 30, 2014, 09:37:03 AM
Beachy Head was Epic today :)

What were the crowds like Allen?

I tried Ivinghoe Beacon for the first time yesterday, it took about the same time to drive there as it would've taken me to get down to Beachy Head. The breezy wind was slighty across the SE slope which is quite small to say the least, I was hoping there would've been more thermal activity to get some height but most of the time I was just eeking out what was going over the hill...and as windspeed increased the lift got worse as it was just blown out. Good landing area there though and a nice bunch of gents to chat with.

The North London day trippers who descended for the sightseeing were v well heeled, but also v curious about our flying toys...more so than on other popular slopes I've flown from!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on March 30, 2014, 10:04:47 AM
Ivinghoe is a nice place isn't it?  Very friendly guys, often in quite large numbers.  But the reason I haven't been there in ages is that the West slope is perhaps the only Ivinghoe slope worth travelling to.

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on March 30, 2014, 11:07:09 AM
Good session at Holly yesterday. Billy-no mates for first hour but then joined by Charlie and Les before I had to leave for family stuff.
Should be good there again today with maybe a bit lighter winds - my son is doing the Mother's Day duties.  :af
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on March 30, 2014, 16:00:05 PM
I like to try produce local to slopes, so for mothers day I bought Ridgeview sparking wine, made at the foot of Ditchling Beacon.  Fantastic!  Better than champagne.  One of the best fizzes I have ever tasted.  Actually it has beaten champagne in international wine competitions, and the Queen served it for her jubilee.  Not cheap at £24, but if you want something special, Ridgeview Bloomsbury is the business.  You can get it from Waitrose or you can pop into the winery after a flying session.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Allen the soarer on March 31, 2014, 13:34:54 PM
Aermacchi turned up today  :af
looks more like a giant airfix kit
I have never seen so many bits
comprehensive would be an understatement.
even comes with pilots  :o
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on March 31, 2014, 13:41:48 PM
What's the wingspan Allen?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Allen the soarer on March 31, 2014, 14:10:03 PM
1.7m
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on March 31, 2014, 22:41:29 PM
That looks fun!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Allen the soarer on March 31, 2014, 22:55:07 PM
Its not gonna be one of my fast builds thats for sure
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Allen the soarer on April 03, 2014, 10:15:32 AM
Half Day booked
off up Beachy Head this aft
anyone out ?


Also celebrating a new Job starting in 5 weeks, any good slopes near Crawley ???
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: peter_burgess on April 03, 2014, 10:23:59 AM
Also celebrating a new Job starting in 5 weeks, any good slopes near Crawley ???

Pevensey to Crawley for a daily commute? All the best mate!

Slopes? well there is Colley Hill 10 miles north of Crawley.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Allen the soarer on April 03, 2014, 10:26:57 AM
Pevensey to Crawley for a daily commute? All the best mate!

Thinking about getting another motorbike  :af
not sure how I would carry a plane though  $%&
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on April 03, 2014, 20:28:20 PM
This is what you need...
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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on April 03, 2014, 20:31:53 PM
Although, more realistically ...
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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: JohnP on April 03, 2014, 21:52:52 PM
I think either approach might be a little risky if contemplating travelling from Crawley to Colley Hill.  Problems would probably start a mile or two north of Crawley...  :''
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: BLADE1 on April 05, 2014, 13:44:14 PM
I like to try produce local to slopes, so for mothers day I bought Ridgeview sparking wine, made at the foot of Ditchling Beacon.  Fantastic!  Better than champagne.  One of the best fizzes I have ever tasted.  Actually it has beaten champagne in international wine competitions, and the Queen served it for her jubilee.  Not cheap at £24, but if you want something special, Ridgeview Bloomsbury is the business.  You can get it from Waitrose or you can pop into the winery after a flying session.
I love Waitrose,just don't like getting up at 3am for the early shift!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on April 05, 2014, 17:10:30 PM
So THIS is where you have all been hiding! Thought it had gone quiet on the other half of the thread.  ::)

Hope to get to Thurnham tomorrow about midday. Or is the wind direction likely to be too far round to the south?

Jef
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on April 05, 2014, 18:30:13 PM
Should be alright.  I was passing near Wrotham today, so I stopped by there for half an hour, and the flying was surprisingly decent.  Such a lot of spacious air above, and spacious slope in front, and spacious landing behind, it's got to be brilliant place to fly Simon's big ASG some time. 
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on April 05, 2014, 19:12:20 PM
Hope to get to Thurnham tomorrow about midday. Or is the wind direction likely to be too far round to the south?
Jef

The forecast SSW will be fine, Jef.  However there could be a few incoming showers that may force a quick dash for the cow shed.  :co

Edit: Light showers on their way, but I'm going anyway.
http://www.raintoday.co.uk/ (http://www.raintoday.co.uk/)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on April 06, 2014, 11:11:38 AM
Jef, Eric just phoned me from Thurnham (11am Sunday) to say that conditions are poor and he is going home.  Cloud at 100ft, dampness in the air, some slope lift but no thermal help ... not worth a trip to Thurnham today basically.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Hairyflier on April 06, 2014, 15:04:11 PM
Anyone likely to be out at Thurnham to-morrow, I'm long overdue a visit and the forecast looks promising. :xx
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on April 06, 2014, 15:10:05 PM
I'm back, to do some decorating as I promised my wife I would, but conditions are improving now with the wind strength still increasing but thankfully the dampness has gone.

Unfortunately Jef from Essex,brought the wrong set of wings for his Calypso so had nothing to fly.
It was only just after I launched my WildThing for Jef to give him some airtime that he told me that he's a Mode 1 flyer and I'm Mode 2 even though I started back in the days of reeds! He did well but he did nearly have my head off during his last downwind landing approach.  :o

Charlie, 'Incoming' Ray and Jef were heading to the slope as I drove away down the lane.
Charlie also offered Jef a go with his new slippery M-something wing, as he is also a member of the Mode 1 club. Looks like Jef's journey wasn't wasted after all.  :af

I'm off to wield the sandpaper and paintbrush. :'(
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on April 06, 2014, 16:52:00 PM
Thanks Eric and Charlie.

My downwind landing approach wasn't that close (good job you didn't have a bigger hat on).  ;)

It was really nice of you both to let me fly your models. Made me feel very welcome indeed. Hope I can repay you both some day.
 
My only excuse is that I passed 55 last weekend and am now officially a senile delinquent.

I am going to make some new wing bags this evening with the names of the models written on.

Embarrassed of Essex!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: SpringHead on April 06, 2014, 18:05:19 PM
I got to Thurnham about 16:30, it was very windy and the lift was epic. I have a Ellipse now and got maidened and quickly landed, too windy for such a light model but it has great potential for the lighter days. Flew the mini blade, it was eating up the sky


Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on April 06, 2014, 19:23:02 PM
Looking forward to seeing the extra photos you spoke of Eric, from our jolly at Baldock.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on April 06, 2014, 22:45:12 PM
Photos sent Jef.

Good to hear that Mr Jiberjaber has emerged from his annual hibernation - maybe we'll see him and Jo on the slope again one day.

BTW - I heard the WT whistle as it went past my head so it must have been close!  ;)  ;D
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on April 07, 2014, 09:30:30 AM
On the Paritech website, in the photo gallery, the first photo is one taken by our very own Paul W of my Paritech Duo Discus at Bopeep:

http://www.paritech.de/modellbau/kundengalerie.php (http://www.paritech.de/modellbau/kundengalerie.php)

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on April 07, 2014, 12:23:27 PM
Coo, double fame!

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on April 07, 2014, 12:43:29 PM
On the Paritech website, in the photo gallery, the first photo is one taken by our very own Paul W of my Paritech Duo Discus at Bopeep:

Discount on your next purchase?!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on April 07, 2014, 12:45:14 PM
Westerly tomorrow folks...I'm going to give the best slope at Ivinghoe a go I think.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: peter_burgess on April 08, 2014, 09:50:46 AM
Anyone fancy a trip up the west face of Long Man today?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on April 08, 2014, 11:06:29 AM
Working I'm afraid Pete....

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on April 08, 2014, 11:44:27 AM
Westerly tomorrow folks...I'm going to give the best slope at Ivinghoe a go I think.
I'm jealous! Let us know how you got on.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Allen the soarer on April 08, 2014, 12:32:05 PM
My Fox is up for sale (need to fund motorbike)

any fair offer from you guys will be excepted  :af
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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on April 08, 2014, 15:47:09 PM
Hopefully you mean "accepted" rather than "excepted" Allen!

What motorbike are you thinking of Allen - I have been wondering if I should thin out my 2 wheeled fleet.....

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Allen the soarer on April 08, 2014, 16:37:23 PM
Hopefully you mean "accepted" rather than "excepted" Allen!

What motorbike are you thinking of Allen - I have been wondering if I should thin out my 2 wheeled fleet.....

Si
Looked at ZZR 11, VFR800 vetec, Pan European, black bird etc etc
What have you got Si ?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on April 08, 2014, 16:44:30 PM
Can you tell us anything about the Fox please Allen?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Allen the soarer on April 08, 2014, 18:42:00 PM
Can you tell us anything about the Fox please Allen?

Everything you need to know is here

http://www.rcmf.co.uk/4um/index.php/topic,95195.msg1113675.html#msg1113675 (http://www.rcmf.co.uk/4um/index.php/topic,95195.msg1113675.html#msg1113675)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Allen the soarer on April 09, 2014, 14:21:12 PM
LM after work  :af
yay for british summer time  :uk:
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on April 10, 2014, 03:34:11 AM
I'm jealous! Let us know how you got on.

Got onto the slope around 11'sh to find a stiff wind dead on the slope, conditions were sunny then a couple of light showers blew through but the windspeed gradually increased through the day (XC Weather were a bit out!). Lift was good and consistent but not epic, I guess it was being suppressed by the high winds. I was also hoping for a bit more thermal activity, there was some but it was blowing through very quickly. Perfect conditions for the Swift, so lots of aerobatics.

About 8 other flyers up there, all nice chaps, but I found it a bit disconcerting that folk didn't stand together whilst flying...everyone scattered along the edge of the slope, it's just easier to communicate when more communal.

M25 a nightmare on the way home!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: peter_burgess on April 10, 2014, 09:14:33 AM
About 8 other flyers up there, all nice chaps, but I found it a bit disconcerting that folk didn't stand together whilst flying...everyone scattered along the edge of the slope, it's just easier to communicate when more communal.

I don't understand why some glider pilots will not stand together with other pilots, this would NOT be tolerated at most power clubs. It is hard enough speaking to someone nearby in a 30+ mph wind and impossible if they are 30+ yards away! If a severe accident occurred because of an inability to communicate between pilots them the hobby would be heavily censured.  It really is a safety matter!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on April 11, 2014, 15:36:39 PM
Looking good for a bit of Thurnham action tomorrow!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on April 11, 2014, 16:45:05 PM
I'll be there Mark!  :af

Sunday is looking to be a thermally floater day at Farthing Common.  :co
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on April 11, 2014, 17:55:58 PM
If the weather plays ball I'll pop up to Thurnham tomorrow too.

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on April 12, 2014, 21:38:19 PM
Great day at Thurnham. I managed a slope height record of 717m (2350ft) and minutes later we were then buzzed by a full size motor glider...wing waggling and all!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Allen the soarer on April 12, 2014, 21:46:00 PM
Had a propper Langman session today

The way I remember the Longman, models just would not slow up, just got faster and faster even a little scary at times  :af
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on April 13, 2014, 19:56:52 PM
Firle tomorrow anyone?
Looks like it'll be easterly for most of the rest of the week...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on April 13, 2014, 20:25:45 PM
Sorry Mark, the office beckons tomorrow.

An excellent weekend's soaring - Thurnham was great on Saturday with the opportunity to fly my ASH 26. Had an interesting session there this afternoon with my 'Storm' making the most of the good thermal activity. The wind was constantly swinging between SW and WNW which at Thurnham means lift then no lift - luckily the Storm has a very efficient wing section - very challenging but fun and it was quite warm on the slope for a change but only one other soarer was enjoying the conditions with me.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: peter_burgess on April 13, 2014, 22:31:08 PM
Firle tomorrow anyone?

I hope to be there.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on April 14, 2014, 08:12:26 AM
It does look like a good day for Firle - have a good session - I can't make it unfortunately because I'm here:
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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on April 14, 2014, 20:59:33 PM
I hope you packed a model Gary!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on April 14, 2014, 21:30:27 PM
I'm sure I can see a Duo Discus there somewhere...

Firle was great today, gusty at 10.30am then the slope lift went and we were left with just thermal lift...it was a case of hoiking your plane off the slope at the right moment and riding the thermal up. Last flight I was on the verge of landing out but mananged to tickle it back up and into some fantastic convergent lift at the rear of the slope where I could just hoon the ASH31 back and forth and making the paragliders jealous who (apart from one chap) couldn't get away!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on April 15, 2014, 07:28:59 AM
That sounds a bit stressful Mark - I was thinking about you at Firle when I was working yesterday and it was windy here so I assumed it would have been epic there.
This week I not working on Thursday and Friday so hopefully I'll get out  then

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on April 15, 2014, 08:05:38 AM
I've got my eye on Friday....
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on April 15, 2014, 09:22:28 AM
Looks like a bit of Bopeepery could be the order of the day, although as it's Good Friday, it could be busy.

I'm working on the Isle of Sheppey today and there's a nice NE blowing - I wonder what I'll be doing come lunchtime?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Allen the soarer on April 15, 2014, 10:09:51 AM
I plan to have a Peep on Friday  :af
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on April 15, 2014, 10:42:07 AM
although as it's Good Friday, it could be busy.


ahh yes, hadn't considered that potential fly in the ointment
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Allen the soarer on April 15, 2014, 11:19:44 AM
It will be busy if the Kent rable find thier way down, I thing you should stay home  :nananana:
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on April 15, 2014, 15:54:20 PM
Yes, I was thinking Friday as well.  It was looking Firle-y - but now I think Allen is right, the forecast is changing slightly to be more Bopeep-y.  Also, the latest forecast is now suggesting slightly lower winds, i.e. pillowish.  If the wind is low enough for paragliders I bet both those sites will be absolutely heaving on Friday.  If that happens I might fly at the next bowl along, the one to the west of Firle where the masts are.  Or whatever - I guess I'll make a last minute decision based on fuzzy set logic taking into account all the variables.



Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Allen the soarer on April 15, 2014, 16:11:26 PM
But we MUST make sure we all fly the same bowl as making a pillow sandwich could make for an even worst realtionship between us :af

The unwriten rule is that we all fly the west slope near the masts and I surgest on such a popular day that we stick to it  :xx
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on April 16, 2014, 07:35:08 AM
Allen, have you ever flown this slope? Over the back of Long Man, it looks like a large northeast bowl overlooking Folkington:
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: fpljohn on April 16, 2014, 13:36:28 PM
Hi Gary
You are right this is a good N/E slope, but as parts of the licence that the BMFA have for this hill we are asked not to fly there regularly.
Not to sure if that is still in the agreement, but it is a long walk from any of the car parks around the hill. I have not been there for about 5 years, was good flying though even if I was on my own. So if you need a hike to stretch your legs could be worth it, works from North to east so can cover a good wind range.

JP
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on April 16, 2014, 18:09:54 PM
Interesting, thanks for the info John.  You're right, it's an awfully long way from the car park.  Maybe I'll try it some day when I feel like a hike.

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: RobtArm on April 17, 2014, 10:09:27 AM
Hi Gary
You are right this is a good N/E slope, but as parts of the licence that the BMFA have for this hill we are asked not to fly there regularly.
Not to sure if that is still in the agreement,

JP

I have seen several references to agreements between the BMFA and the National Trust for glider flying. I searched the NT site and found a vague statement of principle, but no detail of properties which are included. A specific search on the property which includes the Long Mynd found nothing. A request for more information from the NT is still unanswered after a month. The BMFA website does not seem to have even the vague statement that the NT have. I might be searching badly of course, but I think I should have found something.

Can someone enlighten me please.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on April 17, 2014, 11:03:20 AM
You're right, I've never found anything, it all seems quite vague.  Possibly the agreements are relatively informal ones between the local warden and the local flyers, i.e. not official national body agreements. I've even spoke to local NT wardens at affected sites who have never heard of the agreements, so I suspect one warden makes an agreement and leaves, and the agreement is soon lost in time.

Perhaps the key thing is to follow the national statement, the one about not flying power models, and not doing anything to endanger birds, wildlife, other visitors.

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Nicholls on April 18, 2014, 09:07:50 AM
Tony Baker Royalist (not mine) for sale on Ebay ends today

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=131164595456&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:GB:1123 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=131164595456&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:GB:1123)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: SpringHead on April 18, 2014, 09:24:22 AM
Does anybody plan on going flying in Kent today or this weekend? Winds look predominately NE
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Bob Ryan on April 18, 2014, 10:49:40 AM
I'm thinking of going down to Boterny Bay on the cliffs.
any other suggestions?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: peter_burgess on April 18, 2014, 18:49:22 PM
To all those at Bopeep today, thanks for good company and thanks to the weather God for some really good flying conditions  :)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on April 18, 2014, 19:35:00 PM
Champion tosser award goes to Allen:
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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on April 18, 2014, 19:38:01 PM
Here's Allen's excellent Artist F3F plane, with Pete's plane just visible in the background ... plus a closer pic of Pete's plane:
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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on April 18, 2014, 19:57:03 PM
Some pics my son Lucas took of my Prismaray:
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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on April 18, 2014, 20:54:23 PM
Few more...
[attachimg=5][attachimg=1][attachimg=2][attachimg=3][attachimg=4]
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: peter_burgess on April 18, 2014, 21:48:14 PM
Gary, nice pics, well done.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on April 18, 2014, 22:01:05 PM
The pic of Allen's Fox on launch is B£**&Y EXCELLENT

Wish I could take a photo somewhere near as good.

Well done young fella!

Jef
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on April 19, 2014, 05:40:05 AM
You're going to be in trouble Gary!.......

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Rob Thomson on April 19, 2014, 07:47:00 AM
Ain't that then fox Allan is selling?

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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: peter_burgess on April 19, 2014, 08:33:30 AM
Rob, we couldn't possibly comment ;)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Rob Thomson on April 19, 2014, 09:58:55 AM
:)

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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on April 19, 2014, 15:30:52 PM
I'll delete that post this evening!

Isn't there a limited window for post deletion?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on April 19, 2014, 15:33:38 PM
It's a couple of days Paul.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on April 19, 2014, 15:35:13 PM
I'm thinking of going down to Boterny Bay on the cliffs.
any other suggestions?
Minster Slopes and Cliffs, Bob.
Does anybody plan on going flying in Kent today or this weekend? Winds look predominately NE
My weekend pass was only for 10 hours and I used it all up yesterday on the South Downs. :'(
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on April 19, 2014, 16:04:44 PM
Tony Baker Royalist (not mine) for sale on Ebay ends today

[url]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=131164595456&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:GB:1123[/url] ([url]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=131164595456&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:GB:1123[/url])

Looks like you've got a valuable antique on your hands, Ian.

I'll have to put my 42 year old Countryman online soon, complete with M-Series radio and 15M Servos - it and the radio gear still flies! - here's the proof at 57 seconds - http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSgWW0Xkq60  ;D
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on April 19, 2014, 18:17:48 PM
Got up early.

Flew Ditchling Beacon - conditions Epic.

Flew Minster Cliffs, Warden Point - conditions smooth and larger than expected.

Ready for bed now!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on April 19, 2014, 21:00:22 PM
I wonder of you might be the first person in history to have flown Ditchling Beacon and Minster Cliffs on the same day?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on April 19, 2014, 22:09:51 PM
No doubt someone on here will know, if not.

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on April 20, 2014, 09:50:18 AM
Top marks for landing the big scalie at Ditchling!  How did you do it?  I think the landing zone is quite shallow with a fence in the way isn't t?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Rob Thomson on April 20, 2014, 11:01:35 AM
The trick I believe...  Is to not show photos, or talk about the plane (Kit) after the landing!

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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on April 20, 2014, 11:32:19 AM
The field behind the second fence was used as a landing zone by two of the Mill Hill Gang, with their scalies.

We won't talk about the third scalie landing, but I think a third fenceline was involved.  ;)

I was not aware that we were allowed to do that and landed the Fully-ballasted Calypso in between the fences a couple of times. It was physically restrictive where I did it, and in retrospect, I should have walked east along the ridge 100m and landed where the gap between the fences is wider.

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Rob Thomson on April 20, 2014, 14:07:18 PM
Just found this 20 year old photo of me slope soaring back in South Africa.

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/20/egetusys.jpg)

Two things are clear:

1.  I was allot thinner!
2.  It was allot warmer!

Rob

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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on April 20, 2014, 17:17:24 PM
Not looking promising for maidening my little ASG29 tomorrow, late afternoon at Bopeep may be doable...I'll be watching the forecast intently!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: peter_burgess on April 20, 2014, 19:35:07 PM
Not looking promising for maidening my little ASG29 tomorrow, late afternoon at Bopeep may be doable...I'll be watching the forecast intently!
Hmmm... don't know about that, Met Office reckon wind ESE at 6mph  ???
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on April 20, 2014, 20:14:49 PM
That pic of Rob reminds me: shall we have a slope babe competition this year? 
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on April 20, 2014, 20:51:25 PM
Hmmm... don't know about that, Met Office reckon wind ESE at 6mph  ???

XC Weather showing 3mph NNE at 7pm! Not really enough for a maiden of a 10kg+ scalie...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on April 20, 2014, 21:06:38 PM
That pic of Rob reminds me: shall we have a slope babe competition this year?

Yes, but I'm a little uneasy that an image of a half naked man served as a reminder for you Gary
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Rob Thomson on April 20, 2014, 22:57:22 PM
Note sure I am too happy with that memory coming to mind?   :)

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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on April 21, 2014, 10:19:31 AM
I think the 30% ASG29 maiden will have to be put on hold for a couple of weeks, conditions don't look like ideal today and I'm away this weekend...at lease it'll give me time to tart up the scale bits. And put a pilot in!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on April 21, 2014, 10:21:12 AM
Sounds like a good plan Mark...

It's not that long until the first Middle Wallop meeting....

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on April 21, 2014, 12:05:27 PM
It's not that long until the first Middle Wallop meeting....

I'm hoping to slope it first!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on April 21, 2014, 20:15:33 PM
Just found this nice pic of one of Simon's old planes at Firle, so I thought I'd post it. I wonder if that plane still exists somewhere?
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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on April 21, 2014, 20:22:08 PM
I need a bigger yard...

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: The Saint. (Owen) on April 21, 2014, 21:19:32 PM
You could always put it in my yard.  :ev ;D
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on April 22, 2014, 08:01:19 AM
I need a bigger yard...

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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Allen the soarer on April 22, 2014, 11:04:16 AM
Paul
you asked what the wing area was for my Halfpipe

 157dm2   :o
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Rob Thomson on April 22, 2014, 16:34:54 PM
I am giddy with excitement!  Just landed myself a nearly new Merlin :)

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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on April 23, 2014, 08:15:26 AM
I am giddy with excitement!  Just landed myself a nearly new Merlin :)

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I'm sure that will be a lot of fun Rob!  I'll look forward to seeing it.  I think the Willow/Merlin look like good options if anything happens to my Skorpion

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Allen the soarer on April 23, 2014, 15:18:00 PM
Keeping my fox and selling of other stuff I dont fly

Anyone want an EasyGlider pro RTF good condition just add Rx and Lipo
loads os spares like more wings tails etc. £80  :af
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on April 23, 2014, 21:21:43 PM
Keeping my fox...

Does that mean we can publish the 'action arrival' material from Friday please Allen?  ^-^
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Allen the soarer on April 24, 2014, 08:24:09 AM
Does that mean we can publish the 'action arrival' material from Friday please Allen?  ^-^

Yes you may  :'(
Would be interesting to see, as it all happens so fast, I think it was due to puching her down a little early but I guess we will soon see
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on April 24, 2014, 09:47:02 AM
anyone know what the back story is here?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIk0Nuc8Q78
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Allen the soarer on April 24, 2014, 11:06:15 AM
anyone know what the back story is here?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIk0Nuc8Q78

LMFAO
are you really trying to tell me there was a large PSS being flown by a women at colley hill
you will have to try haed than that to fool me  ::)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on April 24, 2014, 11:16:44 AM
I don't think she's a she.....
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Allen the soarer on April 24, 2014, 11:30:31 AM
You might me right but he has nice pinnes  :af
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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Rob Thomson on April 24, 2014, 12:26:52 PM
I think it may be Collin or Trevors...

http://www.tvsf.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=3&id=8&limit=6&limitstart=1170&Itemid=22 (http://www.tvsf.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=3&id=8&limit=6&limitstart=1170&Itemid=22)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: tilmanb on April 24, 2014, 13:08:58 PM
Last time I saw them neither of them was wearing a skirt and had long hair. :D

Written on my mobile. Please excuse my brevity.

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: SpringHead on April 24, 2014, 17:18:01 PM
I think I'm in love, a woman that gives a sh1t about your hobby and rushes to the edge of a steep hill then over it without hesitation to fetch your plane



Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on April 24, 2014, 17:22:36 PM
I think like many visitors to Thailand you might get a nasty surprise Martin!

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Monz on April 24, 2014, 19:23:46 PM
 ;D Hi guys.

That was my Buccaneer on Colley Hill yesterday. Depron build to 1/8th scale and weighs 7.4lbs. It's done in the colours of a SAAF machine being restored to static at the moment in Cape Town at the SAAF Museum. Incidentally Rob, that's where I'm from.

And yes, I'm transgendered and I like to build scale models  :D I've no issue with what I am or what anyone thinks and am not precious over a bit of banter. You can actually call me a t w a t without it being an insult ;) (tranny with a tranny, geddit?  :ev )

Cheers,
Monz

 :af

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on April 24, 2014, 19:36:41 PM
;D Hi guys.

That was my Buccaneer on Colley Hill yesterday. Depron build to 1/8th scale and weighs 7.4lbs. It's done in the colours of a SAAF machine being restored to static at the moment in Cape Town at the SAAF Museum. Incidentally Rob, that's where I'm from.

And yes, I'm transgendered and I like to build scale models  :D I've no issue with what I am or what anyone thinks and am not precious over a bit of banter. You can actually call me a t w a t without it being an insult ;) (tranny with a tranny, geddit?  :ev )

Cheers,
Monz

 :af

Good job Monz! Get yourself down to Thurnham, we'd love to see your Buccaneer!

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: SpringHead on April 24, 2014, 19:38:28 PM
I'm so bloody naive, thanks for the heads up Simon.
Thanks for being a good sport Monz
I have now made a mental note, when watching videos on my phone don't comment till I've seen them on a big screen!


Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Monz on April 24, 2014, 19:55:36 PM
Good job Monz! Get yourself down to Thurnham, we'd love to see your Buccaneer!

Do you have a decent hill there? I'm in Tolworth, so an hour or so along the M25 and M26. Postcode or map and best wind direction?

M
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on April 24, 2014, 20:11:30 PM
Do you have a decent hill there? I'm in Tolworth, so an hour or so along the M25 and M26. Postcode or map and best wind direction?

M

ME14 3LD takes you to the lane at the bottom of the hill.

SW to W, 'decent' is a bit of an overstatement...but what we lack in lift, we make up for in banter!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Monz on April 24, 2014, 20:26:55 PM
ME14 3LD takes you to the lane at the bottom of the hill.

SW to W, 'decent' is a bit of an overstatement...but what we lack in lift, we make up for in banter!

Cool, I see parking on Castle Hill (there's a chap with a glider on Google maps ;) ) and then walk which way? East or West or drive in to the circular car park off the A249?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on April 24, 2014, 20:28:10 PM
Monz, have you seen the Slopehunter website - that tells you where the slopes are:

www.slopehunter.co.uk (http://www.slopehunter.co.uk)

It's a brave person who maidens a plane like that at Colley Hill, well done.

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on April 24, 2014, 20:43:04 PM
Cool, I see parking on Castle Hill (there's a chap with a glider on Google maps ;) ) and then walk which way? East or West or drive in to the circular car park off the A249?

Head west Monz, Gary's site gives plenty of good info.

The lane side parking (Castle Hill as seen on Google maps) is fine so long as you tuck in tight.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on April 24, 2014, 20:49:41 PM
Yes indeed - for Thurnham, you would head east on the M26 and M20 (as I do, I live near Croydon) to the postcode Paul gives, and then up the lane and park on the side of the lane, then walk left/west a hundred yards to the slope.

The directions given on the Slopehunter website are for people coming down the A249 from north London. But the entrance to the country park is not accessible from the south, so for us it is better to go to the postcode Paul gives, rather than parking in the country park.

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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on April 24, 2014, 21:14:48 PM
For Allen, here is the Fox landing at Bopeep Hill the other day:


Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Monz on April 24, 2014, 21:41:59 PM
Monz, have you seen the Slopehunter website - that tells you where the slopes are:

[url=http://www.slopehunter.co.uk]www.slopehunter.co.uk[/url] ([url]http://www.slopehunter.co.uk[/url])

It's a brave person who maidens a plane like that at Colley Hill, well done.


Cheers for that GP  :af

Might be back at Colley on Saturday with the Bucc looking at the forecast...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Monz on April 24, 2014, 21:45:02 PM
Yes indeed - for Thurnham, you would head east on the M26 and M20 (as I do, I live near Croydon) to the postcode Paul gives, and then up the lane and park on the side of the lane, then walk left/west a hundred yards to the slope.

The directions given on the Slopehunter website are for people coming down the A249 from north London. But the entrance to the country park is not accessible from the south, so for us it is better to go to the postcode Paul gives, rather than parking in the country park.

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Cool, thanks again. See, it's these little bits of info that help a navigationally inept person like me!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Allen the soarer on April 24, 2014, 21:46:30 PM
For Allen, here is the Fox landing at Bopeep Hill the other day:

Wow you did not miss a shot  :af
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on May 02, 2014, 21:20:27 PM
Really enjoyed Bopeep today (note to self: stop taking launch shots, they all look the same, you need to move on).
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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on May 02, 2014, 21:22:13 PM
In order to move on from launch shots, for the next two years I will photograph nothing but walking shots.
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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on May 02, 2014, 21:27:40 PM
Over trousers...cold then?!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on May 02, 2014, 21:38:37 PM
No, they're just handy for hiding the stains.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on May 02, 2014, 21:56:35 PM
Over trousers...cold then?!

Was a bit chilly! Thanks to Gary for inspiring us to take a stroll in the direction of Firle....we'll have to do it en-masse in better weather!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on May 02, 2014, 22:41:41 PM
Definitely.  We'll have to do the whole way from Bopeep to Firle (which is only 1.8 miles, a 30 minute stroll). I guess a NNE wind would be ideal.  A couple of us could park at Firle and a couple of us at Bopeep, for those who didn't want to walk both ways.

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on May 03, 2014, 19:15:48 PM
Thurnham Massive Jolly Boys Day out to Bopeep

Loaded or what!
Herein lies a Big Fox, Valenta Salto, ASW27, Race M, ASH26, Valenta Storm, Big Fox trolley plus all the paraphernalia needed for a day's flying on the South Downs . . . and three pilots!
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Ready for the off!
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Surveying the scene prior to committing the Big Fox to the north easterly breeze.
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Look out behind you, the Germans are coming over the hill!
Don't . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . !

They were a nice bunch of blokes (herrs?) who rocked up on the slope to practice for the big F3F meeting to be held somewhere on the South Downs next weekend. They told us quite a bit about slope soaring in Germany and it made us realise how lucky we are with our sloping facilities in the UK.
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Mr Goodwind hard at work getting content for his website.
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A grand day out, the only damage between us was one stripped aileron servo gear on the Big Fox.
It was cold towards the end and so we were glad we had ski jackets, salopettes and long johns at our disposal.
Now could we remember how to get everything back into the Glidermobile - luckily photo 1 was available on my phone!!


In order to move on from launch shots, for the next two years I will photograph nothing but walking shots.
I think I need to stop taking launch photos as well. :'(
(My excuse is that the camera on my new phone takes about one second to operate the shutter!)
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Here's the one before when Paul wasn't moving and just about to heave Simon's Big Fox into the air.
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. . . and here's one of Gary, walking back to the pits after another successful flight of the Duo Discus.
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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on May 03, 2014, 23:25:13 PM
In the loaded car pic Eric, whats the model with the silver nose cone underneath Pauls' RaceM?! 
 ;)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on May 04, 2014, 00:29:28 AM
It's Simon's latest project, a sleek Thermos flask fully loaded with coffee!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on May 04, 2014, 07:52:59 AM
Mark and I maidened his lovely new ASG29 6m glider yesterday at Bopeep in rather low lift conditions.  He did a great job even though it looked like he was going to have to land out on two ocassions - milking the lift and getting back up to safety.

Not the most comfortable maiden but a great testament to glider and pilot in sinky conditions!

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Rob Thomson on May 04, 2014, 08:10:00 AM
I was wondering how you guys got on with the wind.

It was VERY thermic!  And damn near no wind!

I got 3 hours of good flat field thermal flying in :)

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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on May 04, 2014, 10:55:24 AM
Anyone up for doing a cross country along the cliffs between Dover and Folkestone tomorrow - conditions look perfect for it?  :) 
The cliffs are about 500ft high so the lift will be stupendous. :D

I'm going to check out the route out late this afternoon to see which would be the best section to try out first.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on May 04, 2014, 10:58:51 AM
Anyone up for doing a cross country along the cliffs between Dover and Folkestone tomorrow - conditions look perfect for it?  :) 
The cliffs are about 500ft high so the lift will be stupendous. :D

I'm going to check out the route out late this afternoon to see which would be the best section to try out first.

I will be in DIY mode unfortunately  :'(....next time hopefully. Great photos from Friday Eric!....congrats on the maiden Mark, was the hill busy yesterday?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on May 04, 2014, 11:07:37 AM
Mark and I maidened his lovely new ASG29 6m glider yesterday at Bopeep in rather low lift conditions.

Many thanks again Si for the launch. Conditions were far from ideal but it had to be done, luckily the CofG was spot on and it only needed a smidgen of elevator trim. Not having programmed in aileron diff made for awful adverse yaw thus needing lots of rudder to compensate, not idea when I was milking the thermals for the barest of lift just to get her back to slope level!

It took about an hour after landing for my pulse rate to return to normal.

The rest of the day was uneventful, the slope breeze stopped all together so I broke out my little DG600 and just thermalled up and down...the German chaps were struggling with their F3F machines but the DG coped brilliantly. Sea breeze changed wind direction completely by 2pm so I had a sleep and sunburnt my face instead... :embarassed:
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on May 04, 2014, 16:24:48 PM
Today I popped over to Colley Hill for a spur-of-the-moment fly with the family, and I met a flyer called Kelvin who had been with you yesterday when you flew at Bopeep.  He was very impressed with the ASG29.

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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on May 04, 2014, 16:27:29 PM
I tried taking photos myself while flying - remarkably unsuccessful.  But I thought I'd post this shot because I can't figure out what I'm sharing airspace with.  A bee the size of a pigeon?

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Rob Thomson on May 04, 2014, 17:56:30 PM
What model is that?

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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on May 04, 2014, 19:06:41 PM
A Pulsar 4 metre.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: nyeregis on May 04, 2014, 21:30:07 PM
Eric, I will be on for the coastal tour tomorrow.  Where & when?

Tony
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on May 04, 2014, 21:38:44 PM
I will be in DIY mode unfortunately  :'(....next time hopefully. Great photos from Friday Eric!....congrats on the maiden Mark, was the hill busy yesterday?
Thanks for letting me know Paul.

My trip to Heathrow took longer than expected so rather than carry on down to Dover to do the recce for tomorrow's adventure, I called in to Holly Hill and had an hour of Billy-No-Mates flying in some lovely thermally conditions,

I'll go down to the coast tomorrow morning and will chuck off from the 500ft high viewpoint opposite the Capel Court Caravan Park at Capel-Le-Ferne and head towards Dover along the coastal path, hoping to get to the cliffs above Samphire Hoe - and then I'll have to walk back again! I've done it a couple of times on my bike but not walking so it will be a different experience this time.
It's about 2 miles each way so it's a reasonable goal to start with.  :uk:

PS - I'll try and get some photos of my model along the way Gary, making sure that I don't get too close to the cliff edge in the process.  :xx
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on May 04, 2014, 21:43:10 PM
Eric, I will be on for the coastal tour tomorrow.  Where & when?

Tony
Hi Tony,
Thanks for your reply.

As you can see from the posting I've just made, I hopefully intend to start from the viewpoint opposite Capel Court Caravan park and I was thinking of getting there at about 10am, but that can be varied. If you look on Streetmap you'll see it marked.

I see that Ian and Bob are also lurking, are you guys thinking of joining the ramble along the clifftops as well?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on May 04, 2014, 21:44:52 PM
I'd love to come another time, but I can't make it tomorrow. Have a good one.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on May 04, 2014, 21:48:34 PM
Thanks Gary, we'll be the pathfinders for this one! It would be a fair trek for you but I'm sure you'll enjoy when you can get along.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: nyeregis on May 04, 2014, 22:11:54 PM
Hello Eric,

  I occasionally fly from Abbots Cliff, easily accessed from the 1st laybye west of Dover,  the landing area is wide & open.  Perhaps I will see you half way!

Tony
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: nyeregis on May 04, 2014, 22:13:54 PM
I will be on 2.4Ghz!!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on May 04, 2014, 22:24:32 PM
I'll go from Abbots Cliff then Tony - see you there. I'll be on 2.4 as well.

PS - for anyone else watching, I had the viewpoint location wrong; it's not by the Capel Court Caravan park, It's opposite the Varne Ridge Park on the Old Dover Road.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: KeithB on May 05, 2014, 18:35:24 PM
So how did your cross country go then? Did you get caught up in the traffic for Lydden Hill?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on May 05, 2014, 20:35:53 PM
A very good day Keith. I listened to BBC Radio Kent and my satnav for the traffic reports and turned off the A2 onto the road to Folkestone by Barham Crematorium for a quiet drive to Hawkinge, then Dover. As I crossed over the A2 I could see the stationary traffic about 1/2 mile ahead stopped by the Womenswold turning. The traffic was having to go right down to the Whitfield roundabout and then turn around to get into Lydden Circuit - a 6 or 7 mile queue to sit in. Lots of boy racers in their hot hatches came to a screaming halt.

Met up with Tony and Peter for a fly adjacent to the lay-by he mentioned, but they had to leave after 30 minutes and so I walked from there towards Dover and flew on the cliffs above Samphire Hoe. Surprisingly the lift wasn't very brilliant especially if I took the model more than 50 metres or so away from the cliff. I found that it was best to sit the model just over the lip of the cliff edge where there was reliable slope lift. It certainly took some effort and will to chuck a nice model off a rather steep 500 ft high cliff towards France over the sea!

There were a lot of trail bikes using a piece of land nearby, so to get away from the noise I moved up to the view point opposite the Varne Ridge Residential Park on the Old Dover Road. There were three paragliderists there waiting for the conditions to improve. They weren't happy as a sort of inversion seemed to be in place which they said is a feature that occurs there when there is a high pressure area in the weather system and there is a southerly blow. The conditions that existed were something like those that GP recently said sometimes exist at Beachy Head.

I then decided to check out the cliff top path from the top of Dover Hill to The Battle of Britain Memorial site and that is do-able, although the next section to the cliff top cafe is decidedly tricky. I spotted one of the paragliders in the air so went back to the view point to chat to them again and they said that conditions had improved. However I then decided to walk, not fly, along the cliff edge path from the viewpoint towards Dover. It is certainly do-able but there are some sections of the path that are right on the edge of vertiginous drops, so a model that you can 'park' while you look where you walk would certainly make life a lot easier. I went about about a mile along the cliff top until I reached the 2nd World War sound dish and was clear of the tricky bits; reasonably flat terrain could then be seen towards Samphire Hoe. By then the wind had changed to southwest and I so on my return to the viewpoint I chucked off a little SW facing promontory but that didn't work so I did a quick dash back to the cliff top and moved over to Crete Road West where I had 30 minutes flying on my own.

Later I'll post some of the photos I took during the day showing some of the interesting features that need to be negotiated going from the Varne Ridge viewpoint to Samphire |Hoe. Should be fun!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on May 05, 2014, 21:23:04 PM
Interesting ... it sounds a bit too tricky for me!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on May 05, 2014, 21:32:50 PM
No problem for a man of your abilities Gary!  :af . . . although I think your Pulsar 4 metre would be the model to use - built in safety factor makes the heart beat less fast!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: KeithB on May 05, 2014, 22:36:22 PM
Eric, seems like you had a good day anyway. I will have to try X country one day.

All the best
Keith
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on May 07, 2014, 00:07:51 AM
A good one to start with Keith, would be along the south facing ridge above the Channel Tunnel terminal. Launching off from the Country Park above Peene village and flying along to the slope soaring site at Crete Road West is just over one mile. The North Downs Way runs along the top of the ridge for the whole length and there is only one slightly tricky very short section halfway along where the North Downs Way crosses the adjacent lane. Try it, it's quite a do-able challenge.


The Capel to Samphire Hoe coastal path is not one to do for your first cross country!  :o
Here's a few photos from my recce yesterday - click on the pictures to see the full image as they are slightly cropped by the website software.

Launch from here opposite the Varne Ridge Park or you could go 1/2 mile further west and launch from the cliff top cafe terrace or their car park if you fancy wowing an audience!
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Negotiate some tunnels through bushes
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A taste of things to come!
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Don't look down!
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A clear run to Samphire Hoe
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View from the sound mirror back towards Folkestone
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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: RobtArm on May 07, 2014, 08:00:15 AM
The tunnels look scary. How do you keep track of the glider?

I have been told that 2.4 is vulnerable to 'line of sight' issues. Had a problem myself with an aircraft on the other side of a line of trees, though still visible. Could easily have been thumbs though. Presumably you don't have a problem with the tunnels..
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Rob Thomson on May 07, 2014, 08:30:14 AM
The receiver would just failsafe, then rebind.

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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on May 07, 2014, 10:59:06 AM
The receiver would just failsafe, then rebind.

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Whilst true, some fairly dramatic things could happen during that time!

2.4 systems do seem to vary a bit in terms of losing connection when interrupted by trees etc - for instance at Holly Hill Eric himself lost connection when he tried to walk between the 2 slopes which have trees between them and it didn't rebind in time to avoid the nose dive into the hill!   I then did the same thing (why I hear you ask?!) and did not lose connection.

The systems also seem to vary quite a bit in terms of how long it takes to rebind too.

Simon
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Rob Thomson on May 07, 2014, 12:29:50 PM
Seen how fast frisky rebinds?  :)

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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on May 07, 2014, 14:05:08 PM
Yep, Frsky seem about the fastest around - I use both Futaba FASST and Frsky FASST and the Frsky are quite a bit faster.  I've seen other people's systems (I won't mention brands to avoid a war!) take much longer

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Rob Thomson on May 07, 2014, 14:28:43 PM
All - I know exactly which one :)

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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on May 07, 2014, 19:37:35 PM
The tunnels look scary. How do you keep track of the glider?
The tunnels aren't too bad as you can see the sky thru the twigs, although the leaves aren't fully out at present, so it would be best to position the model directly over the bush and holding the Tx above your head run like mad!

However I would suggest actually setting up the failsafe so that the model doesn't do anything untoward if/when the signal is lost.

The other solution is, like Paul W and sometimes me, to stay on 35 megs and you won't have any problems at all.

The really annoying part about the loss of signal crash at Holly Hill was that everyone else saw and enjoyed the crash while I was still behind the bushes and couldn't see a thing. All I could hear was Paul shouting "Give it up ,up, up" and I was shouting back "I am, I am!"  -  CRUNCH!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: reverendkrv2 on May 08, 2014, 13:51:37 PM
Thurnham yesterday, Wasn't bad, Some fat Thermals coming through, So a bit Bumpy.

Some Slope Candy ;)

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y158/KRV/albatrostoo.jpg) (http://s5.photobucket.com/user/KRV/media/albatrostoo.jpg.html)

It flies great, And even lands itself when It gets switched off on launch :embarassed:


(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y158/KRV/Albatros.jpg) (http://s5.photobucket.com/user/KRV/media/Albatros.jpg.html)

*edited for wrong links*  $%&
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on May 08, 2014, 16:34:02 PM
Nice.  I'm hoping to pop up to Thurnham tomorrow sometime...

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on May 08, 2014, 17:16:12 PM
I'm aiming for a post work fly tomorrow…6.30ish, will give me an hour or so flying. I think that maybe the only chance over the weekend :-(
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on May 08, 2014, 19:33:07 PM
gotta work all day tomorrow so no play for me sadly
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on May 08, 2014, 19:54:48 PM
If the wind slows down a bit from forecast, I will be flying in a winch comp Sunday. If not...

Hello Thurnham! :)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on May 09, 2014, 06:44:41 AM
I'm aiming for a post work fly tomorrow…6.30ish, will give me an hour or so flying. I think that maybe the only chance over the weekend :-(

Are you not coming to Middle Wallop this weekend Mark?  :o

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on May 09, 2014, 08:32:33 AM
Sunday looking a bit better now, so yes. Didn't fancy sitting in my car watching my ASG getting soggy!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on May 09, 2014, 19:09:34 PM
Sunday looking a bit better now, so yes. Didn't fancy sitting in my car watching my ASG getting soggy!

 :co :D :o

Good Luck!

You guys are defo in the BOS Club. Aerotowing BIG stuff in 20mph+ winds. I take my hat off to you.

Jef
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: SpringHead on May 10, 2014, 09:29:33 AM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/10/a4e9a7ab.jpg)

Slope totty!


Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on May 10, 2014, 09:38:41 AM
The aerial isn't orientated correctly.  ;D
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: SpringHead on May 10, 2014, 09:42:36 AM
Mine is!


Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on May 10, 2014, 10:14:41 AM
:co :D :o
Good Luck!
You guys are defo in the BOS Club. Aerotowing BIG stuff in 20mph+ winds. I take my hat off to you.
Jef
I'll be going down to MW tomorrow (things to do today) with my ASH26 - I'll try to get some photos of bendy wings, etc! :xx
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Allen the soarer on May 10, 2014, 21:54:13 PM
First day of the euros complete
50mph+ at the LM (you all know what thas like)
My models still in one piece, there are a few that were not so lucky
Tonorrow looks much the same.  :o
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on May 11, 2014, 08:51:51 AM
Wow, I look forward to a fuller report.

You know, I reckon in those conditions we could do okay in the comp. I notice a lot of the F3F experts are far better than me at milking speed out of weak wind, but are more thrown than me by big wind.  I guess many of the German guys have never flown in 50mph wind, Germany doesn't have that sort of wind-funnelling terrain.  They're more used to thermic alpine conditions and mild, low seaside mini-cliffs. 

So I figure in low wind I would be a total embarrassment, at the bottom of the field, but in 50mph at least I would probably scrape into the top half.  Anyway, I couldn't make it, but Allen is there upholding the honour of the southeast - GO ALLEN!!

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on May 11, 2014, 10:16:14 AM
Had a call this morning from Simon at Middle Wallop advising me not to bother to go down there as the wind is over 40 mph!
He managed to get the Big ASG29 into the air yesterday and had safe stable flights - only two other people flew. 
Unfortunately the 29 sustained some damage when Simon was de-rigging it and trying to get it back into the car in the gale force winds.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on May 11, 2014, 11:16:43 AM
Oh no, I feel for Simon.  That's how I always damage planes, getting in and out of car etc.  And bits blowing away while derigging in big wind.  It's so frustrating. 

What a pity for everyone driving so far to Middle Wallop to be unable to fly. 

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on May 11, 2014, 12:55:35 PM
It's dropped to about 30mph! I shoulda packed the Swift and found a nice West facing slope...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on May 11, 2014, 15:21:49 PM
Had a very quiet 2 hours at Thurnham.

Flew for the last time and sold the Thermik Excel - what a great model that is!

Then put the Calypso through its paces. Lift was quite thermic and never devoid of lift (as is often the case in lighter winds there), wind although quite strong, didn't generate much height (or was it my flying style?).

For the first time, at Thurnham, I found some rotor at the back of the field - and landed short of my target a couple of times. No damage though, as each landing was firm but fair, rather than an arrival at speed.

It was nice to have the place to myself, but I missed the cameraderie and banter... and yes I had all the bits of both models for once!

 ;)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on May 11, 2014, 16:41:43 PM
Not very pleasant conditions at Middle Wallop - I did manage 3 flights yesterday but it was pretty hairy - so much so that I decided not to fly today and came home.  I've just heard from Mark that he sensibly decided against it today too and is on his way to Thurnham!
The damage to my wings is very minor - I just managed to wack the thin carbon trailing edges against the car in a couple of places.
You would think it would take a lot to get this 25 Kg beast into the air, but in this wind I had to have the tail facing the wind otherwise it kept wanting to take off!

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on May 11, 2014, 20:52:41 PM
We waited for the wind to drop but as the sun came out so did the thermals, resulting in strong gusts.
So by 3pm I decided to head for home but then extended the drive home to Thurnham where the wind was west and still gusty, the ASH31 handled the conditions well...I too found a bit of rotor on landing but escaped unscathed. Phew!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on May 12, 2014, 08:43:20 AM
I'm considering a bit of Thurnham action later today (from 4pm?) with the ASG29 but would need a ground crew - anyone up for it?

Also, last time I was there (Friday) I left my prescription glasses in the lay by - pretty much no chance of them still being there/unbroken but if anyone does find them can you hang onto them please?!

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on May 12, 2014, 09:05:56 AM
I'm considering a bit of Thurnham action later today (from 4pm?) with the ASG29 but would need a ground crew - anyone up for it?


See you at 4 Simon!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on May 12, 2014, 12:03:07 PM
Grrr...I've got Eleanor all day so can't get out...

Hope the wind has a bit of South in it, the lift band was narrow yesterday and with the strong wind was quite tricky to stay in...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on May 12, 2014, 12:11:27 PM
Grrr...I've got Eleanor all day so can't get out...

Hope the wind has a bit of South in it, the lift band was narrow yesterday and with the strong wind was quite tricky to stay in...

Maybe I can lure you all out to Wye next time we have a westerly...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Davetronic on May 12, 2014, 12:33:33 PM
I'm considering a bit of Thurnham action later today (from 4pm?) with the ASG29 but would need a ground crew - anyone up for it?
I should be there, willing to help. Last two days at Thurnam were too cold/windy/lonely for me!
Dave
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Allen the soarer on May 12, 2014, 17:49:07 PM
Full report for Gary
Your wrong about it being easier than light air, I cant wait to try out my new learn skills in air that does not scare the 5hit out of me
First day was flown on the usual SW bowl.
The wind was SOOOO stong on the Saturday that one model had its wings ripped off before the launcher had managed to let go.
A few went down the back and a few just found the ground too hard
56mph-25ms is the legal limit for F3F but it's an average not a max speed, We were on the limit the whole day. sitting at the CD box on the slope in the wind for 30 odd flyings was hell, could hardly breath, ears ringing from the noice of the wind.
My Model would not take enough lead to compete with some adding as much as 2.5kg of ballast.
my fastest time was only 50.8, fastest time of the first day was Simon Thornton 34.11
I came 38th out of 50  $%&
Saw some amazing things, one pilot was flying one leg as normal and flying back inverted so just flying an oval loop.

Second day was on the lower west slope and was a little calmer but wind was a little off slope, giving one fast leg followed by a slow one, everyone fought to find a good line but there seemed to be no best line, but still some seemed to cope better than others. fastest time on day two was Mark Redsell at 36.99
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on May 12, 2014, 20:30:53 PM
Well I did manage to sneak away to Thurnham...missed the mighty ASG but my slightly smaller version got a bit of a workout. After taking out a lump of lead she flew a treat, and I got home in time not to get a bollocking!!
Simon...get down the gym, this is the way to launch a biggie!
http://youtu.be/SglBlJviEVo (http://youtu.be/SglBlJviEVo)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on May 12, 2014, 21:03:08 PM
Blimey!  I wonder how often it doesn't work quite right?.....

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on May 13, 2014, 01:00:33 AM
Here's a photo from yesterday afternoon's session at Thurnham - mainly great conditions with a lull in the middle but it picked up again later. (Click on the pictures to see them full frame.)

Mark's 6 metre ASG 29 at the front, Simon's 7.2 metre ASG 29 in the middle and Paul's 4 metre ASW 27 at the rear. I took my little 3.3 metre Valenta Storm for a change as I'd had my 4 metre ASH 26 out quite a bit recently.

I think I'm gonna have to get something bigger!  :''

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And here's one of Simon with the Big Beast when he flew it for the first time at Thurnham nearly two months ago. Since then he has installed full cockpit detail with working LED screen and a pilot.

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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: The Saint. (Owen) on May 13, 2014, 10:00:42 AM
Lovely models.  :af :af

That sky looks bad though.  :o
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on May 13, 2014, 19:24:04 PM
Those black clouds at the back of the slope were going away from us. :af
Luckily all the time we were there the clouds were sliding either side of our slope with just the tiniest spatter of rain reaching us for a few moments.
We had lots of fluffy lift generating clouds coming towards us most of the time which are the type we like. Unfortunately I don't have any stills of these, but I do have some good videos which I'll post later of the launches into those streets of clouds, a number of excellent landings and of course the inevitable outakes,



Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on May 14, 2014, 22:42:37 PM
How are you getting on with the video Eric? Did you manage to get the near decapitation of Paul?!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on May 15, 2014, 20:48:53 PM
I've been v.busy at work this week but I'm now on holiday at home for two weeks so I'll now be able to sort out the video . . . . and yes I did just manage to capture your model nearly doing the deed on Paul!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on May 15, 2014, 21:12:16 PM
I've been v.busy at work this week but I'm now on holiday at home for two weeks so I'll now be able to sort out the video . . . . and yes I did just manage to capture your model nearly doing the deed on Paul!

Hope you get time to do some work on the Baldock aerotow video too  :''
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on May 15, 2014, 22:35:55 PM
Ooops!  :embarassed:

Some more good pictures here courtesy of Mr Goodwind.
http://goodwindsoaring.blogspot.co.uk/ (http://goodwindsoaring.blogspot.co.uk/)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: SpringHead on May 16, 2014, 12:29:17 PM
Why would somebody build a glider this large, you may as well use the real thing(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/16/ahy9ymaq.jpg)


Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: The Saint. (Owen) on May 16, 2014, 12:38:32 PM
WOWOWOWOW!!!!   :o
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on May 16, 2014, 15:16:36 PM
Ah, a Wien, it brings back fond memories ... what a phenomenal amount of work it must have been to build one that size.  What do you reckon, half scale maybe?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on May 16, 2014, 15:31:55 PM
Why would somebody build a glider this large, you may as well use the real thing([url]http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/16/ahy9ymaq.jpg[/url])


So you've heard about my latest project then Martin?!.....

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: SpringHead on May 16, 2014, 15:54:21 PM
Your going to be a full sized glider pilot Simon...........?


Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: SpringHead on May 17, 2014, 17:52:40 PM
Slope babe!(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/18/tera7ase.jpg)

Keep up chaps


Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on May 17, 2014, 18:25:17 PM
She is totally lovely, but I have to ask did you actually take the photo yourself Martin, it has a kind of vintage look about it?!

For others not used to the rules of this competition, entries are only valid if you rush up to some unknown and unsuspecting female and ask if you can take a photograph of her with your model!  (at least those are the rules I have just invented!).

I don't want to spoil Eric's thunder but he bought a rather fabulous glider at the Blackbush show today........

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: SpringHead on May 17, 2014, 18:54:11 PM
It's a very recent photo it's just been faffed about a bit, no I didn't take it so I suppose it does not count but a 'must share' anyway


Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on May 17, 2014, 19:49:37 PM
It's a very recent photo it's just been faffed about a bit, no I didn't take it so I suppose it does not count but a 'must share' anyway
That's for sure - I'm in love!

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on May 17, 2014, 20:00:10 PM
Darn it, did I forget the Blackbushe show again?  I forgot last year as well.  Were there any good turbine glider displays this year?  I look forward to seeing Eric's model.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on May 17, 2014, 21:36:49 PM
Regarding the model I bought today, let's say that I'll need to get a bigger Glidermobile!
I did say I was going to go bigger! Photos will follow tomorrow.

Yes, you missed a good show today Gary - Mark didn't though, he was there with his little 'un and a lovely little girl she is too. His brother-in-law who had never been to a model airshow before was also with him.

Flying was interesting to say the least - the first model up at 10am was a nearly new, very large scale aerobatic aircraft, an Extra of some description, which looked to be about 70% scale and which had taken 1800 hours to build. However, within 60 seconds of take off the wings folded completely when it was about 100 metres high and it had the style and trajectory of a lawn dart on its way to terra firma. I suspect that it had only been flown gently previously and once in the show ring the pilot appears to have been carried away with the occasion. Maybe it was a show pilot flying for the owner - if so, oops!

There were quite a few models biting the dust today more than I've ever seen before at a model show, helicopters with their Lipos catching fire in the middle of the runway, one of a pair of large 3D models crashing - think that there was just too much smoke for the pilot to see his model and most heart rending was the pair of Corsairs with their 5 cylinder radials colliding with each other during their duo routine. I didn't see the Corsair incident, but that's what I was told happened.

However, the Paritech guys from Germany gave their usual polished professional displays without incident. The electrically powered 1/2 scale Fox performed as impressively as usual staying very low for its entire aerobatic performance. They also had a glider with an electric turbine which performed most impressively. I'll post the photos this evening of their many models on the flight line. But the Paritech model which wowed the crowd the most was, to quote the commentator, "the absolute nutter version" of one of their F3F airframes. It was full carbon and initially tricked the crowd into thinking it was a docile model, but the pilot Christoph then turned on the power (pulling 120 amps) and I've never ever seen a model perform so radically fast before. I didn't have my video camera with me for that flight but I'm sure it will come up on YouTube shortly.

So after getting a few small purchases from the trade tents, I loaded my new acquisition into the Glidermobile and on the way home called in to Simon's house to get his verdict - I think he is more excited that I am!! . . . .  so I'm sure that's a big YES from him! :af
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on May 17, 2014, 22:04:48 PM
Thanks for the excellent update.  I see Glidermania and Paritech were there, and they both only sell big impressive gliders, so I'm waiting for the reveal with bated breath ...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on May 17, 2014, 22:14:02 PM
Don't get too excited Gary, it's nothing you haven't seen before, it's just slightly different to the norm.

Paritech were there and Phil H was around organising them but he didn't have an official stand.
One of the reasons I went to the show was to see what he had on offer.
I was told that he had set himself up in the car park but I couldn't find where.
However by then I had found something else . . . . . . . . :'' . . . . . . .  on the South Coast Sailplanes stand.  ;)

PS - I won't be able to post photos until tomorrow evening as I had my arm twisted to be a marshall on a 10k road race for the local Rotary Club starting at 7:30am on site  :'(, then to the pub for a Sunday lunch, then to the village green of the next village for some sort of activity, so hopefully I'll be home before it gets dark to take the snaps. :xx

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on May 17, 2014, 22:17:13 PM
Were there any good turbine glider displays this year?

A full size turbine powered glider cruised over my house from Challock this afternoon, it's the second time I've seen (heard) it....will try and get video evidence next time.....
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on May 17, 2014, 22:29:33 PM
Any idea when the Kent Gliding Club's Open Day is Paul?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: JohnP on May 17, 2014, 22:32:53 PM
But the Paritech model which wowed the crowd the most was, to quote the commentator, "the absolute nutter version" of one of their F3F airframes. It was full carbon and initially tricked the crowd into thinking it was a docile model, but the pilot Christoph then turned on the power (pulling 120 amps) and I've never ever seen a model perform so radically fast before. I didn't have my video camera with me for that flight but I'm sure it will come up on YouTube shortly.

I had my video camera with me,  but to be honest I'm really not sure how much of that flight I actually managed to capture!  It was all a bit of a blur - rather like in previous years Ali's turbine-powered Opus.  :D Probably be a while before I get a chance to get anything onto youtube though.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on May 17, 2014, 23:10:43 PM
Yes John, it was a bit quick wasn't it?
I videoed the whole of the Fox flight and even at that more sedate pace, it took some following with the camera.
At Mr Goodwind's suggestion, I fitted a sighting tube to my Sony Handycam and that helped considerably.
We'll have to hope for the best and see what emerges.
Same with me with getting videos sorted and posted - amazing how much time is involved - in this weather I'd rather be out flying!  :D
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: JohnP on May 17, 2014, 23:42:50 PM
At Mr Goodwind's suggestion, I fitted a sighting tube to my Sony Handycam and that helped considerably.

For anything like this I guess I have a similar,  more 'informal' method,  that probably works much like a sighting tube.  I zoom right out (because anything else would be futile!) keep both eyes open and just move my head and camera to follow the view my left eye has of the model.  If my right eye occasionally also spots the model in the viewfinder then that's a bonus!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on May 18, 2014, 10:56:14 AM
Any idea when the Kent Gliding Club's Open Day is Paul?

I'll see if I can find out, are we going to have a 'jolly' down there when it's on then?

In the mean time you need to post a 'teaser' of you latest acquisition Eric....we can play 'guess the glider'
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on May 18, 2014, 11:29:48 AM
Just as a reminder of where bare faced cheek can get you...

[imghttp://(http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee324/swarrans/IMG-20120820-00014.jpg) (http://s532.photobucket.com/user/swarrans/media/IMG-20120820-00014.jpg.html)[/img]

I have her as my PC lock screen and she makes me smile every time she pops up!


Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on May 18, 2014, 12:05:22 PM
I like the way she's standing "shoulders back, chest out" in a proper model's pose.  She was obviously dead chuffed to be asked to pose by such a debonair gentleman.

To be brutally honest, I'm not sure any of the rest of us have quite enough suaveness skills to be able to talk any young ladies into doing better than that pic!


Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on May 18, 2014, 17:51:32 PM
Anyone flown Beacon Hill nr Newbury before?
I hear it's a bit of a hike to the top tomorrow looks like it'll be SE again and I'd like to try something different to Beachy Head...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on May 18, 2014, 19:09:59 PM
Yes, I've flown there twice. That's the one that overlooks Highclere Castle where Downton Abbey is filmed.  It's quite good, I quite like it.  But it's not nearly as good as the major South Downs sites, and it's quite a tough climb up from the carpark so you wouldn't want to take a 4 metre scalie up there.  (Unless you're training for one of those Scandinavian wife-carrying races, in which case Beacon Hill would be a perfect workout.)


Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on May 18, 2014, 19:12:43 PM
A different subject entirely: see on the For Sale (£ to burn) thread there's an Alpina for £110 - bargain!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on May 18, 2014, 19:21:25 PM
I have total respect for this guy...
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...but for some reason I think I'd rather be this guy:
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... and before you ask, the connection to this thread is that I'm benchmarking innovative approaches to large glider carrying techniques.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on May 18, 2014, 20:28:13 PM
And guess what I'll be carrying up there...a 4.5 m scalie plus my 2.5m Swift...!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on May 18, 2014, 20:36:42 PM
I'll see if I can find out, are we going to have a 'jolly' down there when it's on then?
In the mean time you need to post a 'teaser' of you latest acquisition Eric....we can play 'guess the glider'
We could even put on a display of scalies for them including my new 'un that I've been busy fettling and taking a few snaps of this afternoon  . . . . have I got you all foxed?
Pictures in the next 30 minutes. :af
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: BLADE1 on May 18, 2014, 21:57:57 PM
Its now 21:58!! pictures please!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Nicholls on May 18, 2014, 22:00:46 PM
About to say the same but let's give the old boy a chance...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on May 18, 2014, 22:19:50 PM
Not so much of the old boy Ian  ;) - my pictures were too large I've got to resize them
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on May 18, 2014, 22:31:53 PM
We could even put on a display of scalies for them including my new 'un that I've been busy fettling and taking a few snaps of this afternoon  . . . . have I got you all foxed?
Pictures in the next 30 minutes. :af

Simon blew your secret in another thread Eric....what size have you gone for?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on May 18, 2014, 22:39:13 PM
You all may recall a couple of years ago that Simon had a big Reynard Fox land in his garden. Well I had a similar thing happen over the weekend but this time it wasn't Reynard but a nice lady Arctic Fox. She has led a sheltered life for the past year and she is very shy, so I want to tell you a story.

Once upon a time the then owner of Artic Fox, Mr Ali, owing to pressing circumstances needed to find a new home for her. He sought far and wide for someone to give her a new home but no one was prepared to look after her. Then he remembered a kindly gentleman Mr Dave, who runs a hotel in Bournemouth and he agreed to look after her.

All through the very wet winter he kept her warm and dry and was seriously intending to bring her coat back to its original lustrous shine, but he was very busy with running his hotel and he was unable to do this. So, with heavy heart he took her along to the Blackbushe Model Airshow and put her at the back of his model sailplanes stand hoping that someone would be able to take her on.

Luckily for Arctic Fox another kindly gentleman Mr Eric, just happened to be passing when he spotted her out of the corner of his eye looking dejected at the back of the stand. Mr Eric had seen her photographs previously when Mr Ali was looking for someone to take her on but those photos certainly didn't do her justice - seeing her in the flesh, she was a different animal. Mr Eric could see that a little tender loving care could bring her coat back to its original sparkling self. Her canopy will need extra care but hopefully with the help of her creator, Mr Terry that will be rectified.

Mr Eric wanted to take her straight away and put her safely into his Glidermobile but Mr Dave asked if she could stay on the stand to attract people onto his sales area, a bit like a fairground attraction. Mr Eric said OK but he checked back frequently during the day to make sure that she wasn't being mistreated by the visitors to Mr Dave's emporium. Lots of people looked her over and wanted to take her but a sign was displayed to say that she had a new owner, so no harm befell her.

Finally the time came for Mr Eric to carefully take her apart and load her into the Glidermobile and head back to Kent. Before he left the airshow Mr Eric had a call from his friend Mr Simon and Mr Eric told him the good news of his rescue. Mr Simon was very excited and asked Mr Eric to call into his house on the way home so that he could meet Arctic Fox.

On arrival she was taken carefully out of the Glidermobile and Mr Simon inspected her thoroughly and as he has Reynard living with him, he knows all about Foxes and ther ailments. He pronounced her to be in good health and suggested how he could bring the shine back to her coat. Mr Simon also very kindly gave Mr Eric some components for him to be able to construct a proper cockpit which she has never had before and which will eventually be her crowning glory.

Mr Simon is looking forward to her and his Reynard flying together in the air above the South Downs in the not too distant future, but before then they will both take a trip to the birthplace of both Reynard and her, the Isle of Purbeck, in the middle of June and possibly they will fly together there
under the gaze of their creator Mr Terry . . . . and they all lived happily ever after.


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By the way Miss Arctic Fox doesn't yet have a name and she is sorely in need of one, so if anyone has any suitable suggestions these will be gratefully considered by Mr Eric and a naming ceremony will be held on the slopes of the hills on the Isle of Purbeck, her birthplace. Thank you.


Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on May 18, 2014, 22:45:24 PM
Simon blew your secret in another thread Eric....what size have you gone for?
That's Ok - he was very excited about the possibilities.

5.39 metres with extended tips, 27.8 lbs without batteries and receiver - it already has plenty of church roof on board (the metric facility on my bathroom scales stopped working!)

Edit - So with the batteries and other bits on board it should top out at between 13.5 and 14 kg. I think that's a tad lighter than Simon's.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Davetronic on May 18, 2014, 23:50:27 PM
By the way Miss Arctic Fox doesn't yet have a name and she is sorely in need of one, so if anyone has any suitable suggestions these will be gratefully considered by Mr Eric and a naming ceremony will be held on the slopes of the hills on the Isle of Purbeck, her birthplace. Thank you.
Samantha (Fox) surely.......
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: terry white on May 19, 2014, 00:28:02 AM
Hi Eric,
Excellent read, but please tell,what did your wife and other none flyers think when you first showed them your new friend?

Happy to give any help you need,just ask.

Phil Hoegger is a personal friend of mine. we have flown together for more years then I care to mention. He is the driving force and instigator of the Blackbushe show. He did not have a stand this year due to commitments running up to the show.It is he who hosts the Piretech guys from Germany and it takes a lot of his time and effort getting them settled here before the show.

After the show ends, as of recent years we have made the Paritech boy's welcome at our slopes here in the Purbeck hills.(where the convention is to be held.) I have been flying with them all day today and will be again tomorrow.Their flying skills on the slopes are just the same as their show flying, with the same models and same panache.Phil booked them all (7 of them) into two mobile homes at Durdle Door. This slope flies over the sea,with uninterrupted wind from the Atlantic. Lift is fantastic and the back-drop view is just Gorgeous. They love our scenery and as I say stay and fly here every year. Tomorrow they have promised to fly the 1/2 scale Fox for me as a private show. 'I love Foxes'.Do you think they might let me have a go?They told me today that not so long ago for a bet they attached lights to the wings of the Fox and did the full routine in the dark!! for fun!! I hope they let me have a go!!  See yer.  Terry
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: selleri on May 19, 2014, 01:22:45 AM
Congrats on the Fox!

Why would somebody build a glider this large, you may as well use the real thing.
Totally different experience.  :af

Though pictures of his "monsters"(Austria & Vien) always makes me recall this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z49Os1DczgY
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on May 19, 2014, 10:17:49 AM
Many thanks.

Your posted video makes my new acquisition look quite tiny in comparison. However it is quite big enough in my workroom as I have to take the rudder off to stand it up against the wall.

Regards.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Rob Thomson on May 19, 2014, 18:31:25 PM
Recently...  I have acquired as few new toys.

I an rather happy with them!

1.  A Merlin f3f
2. A willow f3f
4. An omikron f3b (which I accidently ordered a few minutes back!)

I think it's only just been released...  http://www.modellhobby.de/Models/Modelplanes/Full-composite-mouldies/Staufenbiel-OMNIKRON-F3B-electric-full-composite-3-05m.htm?shop=k_staufenb_e&a=article&ProdNr=0314049&t=130&c=31&p=31

What you think?

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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Allen the soarer on May 19, 2014, 21:23:51 PM
I love the Look of the omikron f3b
What happened to Number 3 ?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: SpringHead on May 19, 2014, 21:50:18 PM
Slope babe - non competition just for fun(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/20/apype2u3.jpg)


Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Rob Thomson on May 19, 2014, 21:52:44 PM
I love the Look of the omikron f3b
What happened to Number 3 ?

Oops.. That was a type.

But I guess you could add in the lesser:

Dynamic-S
Wicked wing FPV mod
Wot4 foam-e
FPV quad
Etc...

But those are not really for this thread :)

I can't wait for the omikron.  Looks to be a good model - at a very good price!

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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on May 19, 2014, 22:08:26 PM
Hi Eric, Excellent read, but please tell,what did your wife and other none flyers think when you first showed them your new friend? Happy to give any help you need,just ask.
Thanks Terry, I expect I'll be needing a bit of help although with Simon's Fox already set up, it should make my setting up mine a lot easier.

All my wife has said so far at the pub lunch on Sunday is "Get rid of some of your other models!" She saw the fuselage in the car as we came back and didn't comment. I put the model together in the back garden yesterday and she didn't come out to look at it or comment when I came back indoors - hmm.. Same again today and I spent half the day doing gardening chores. I said to our near neighbours who we went to lunch with to come and look at it but neither of the couple came round and the chap I ferried out to the marshaling point on the 10k race didn't even comment about it at all, even though he sat right next to the rather large fin for about 20 minutes - all very strange. I suspect that people who don't comment in those situations maybe think that we expect them to be impressed, so they say nothing. I had a colleague at work who when he goes on holiday tells me all about it in advance but when I attempted to show him a brochure of where I was going skiing last winter he said "So you expect me to be impressed!" - no I didn't!. As far as I'm concerned learning to ski is no more difficult than to learning to swim or ride a bike.

As Phil was heavily involved in the organisation of the show I can fully appreciate why he didn't have a stand - that's a lot of activity to pack into one day.

For your info Terry, 'Allen the Soarer' on this thread also has a 4 metre Fox which he also says is a keeper.

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on May 20, 2014, 07:31:25 AM
Aren't people strange?  I think I would pretend to be interested in someone else's obsession just out of politeness....

On the wife front - perhaps it would be an idea to show willing by moving on part of the fleet (what's the latest count Eric? 70?!). You never know, you might fancy buying a new toy next weekend!!!......

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on May 20, 2014, 09:39:29 AM
We have a friend whose hobby is sports cars, he keeps buying and selling them, he always has two or three at any one time. So he spends lord knows how many thousands on this hobby.  My wife always says, "Every male has to have an expensive hobby, but at least yours is cheaper than cars!"

So Eric, you need a comparator that makes you look good! Any neighbours/friends wasting loads of money or been caught playing away or anything like that?  Use them!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on May 20, 2014, 10:21:43 AM
On the wife front - perhaps it would be an idea to show willing by moving on part of the fleet (what's the latest count Eric? 70?!). You never know, you might fancy buying a new toy next weekend!!......
Si
A little glimmer of hope this morning, my wife came into, or rather squeezed into, my workroom /study and said, looking at the Fox fuselage leaning up against the wall, "You could get someone into that!" - its presence acknowledged at last.  :D

When it's wet tomorrow I'll seriously start digging out out some models to sell. Eeny, meeny, miney . .  . . no, no, mustn't say that!!
Result - if I do that I'll then have room to get the model that I'll be looking at next week into the house as well!  :af

So Eric, you need a comparator that makes you look good! Any neighbours/friends wasting loads of money or been caught playing away or anything like that?  Use them!
I'm trying to think of someone within our circle of friends who does that!
However my wife isn't complaining about the money as she's a dab hand at spending a few thousand pounds here and there, just the fact that I am a bit of a hoarder and have too many models.


Thanks for your advice guys.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on May 20, 2014, 11:40:22 AM
Beacon Hill report...

Not too bad at Beacon Hill yesterday, took about an hour and a half to drive there (would've been quicker if M25 wasn't so sticky) and parked at the bottom of the hill.

The walk up is quite vicious but thankfully short and sharp, it took me a few minute to compose myself and then assemble the planes.

Clambering up and down the ramparts I launched the Swift by the fence and had good flight with constant lift with the occasional small bumpy thermal coming through. Landed within the boundry of the old Iron Age fort which was fine apart from the odd vicious thorny shrub jumping up to grab unsuspecting planes!
I then launched the ASH31 and all was well but I couldn't get any higher than the Swift, to the left of the pic you may see some lovely Cumulus but these weren't evident overhead so only the occasional blue thermal came past, and with Watership Down in front there may have been some form of rotor/wave effecting the lift. Landed the ASH31, this time near to the triangulation point where it's a bit less shruby and bunged the Swift up...this time the wind was a bit more SE rather than SSE and the lift was constant and smooth with more thermals coming through.
One last time with the ASH31 and I finally found a band of good strong lift above the usual slope lift...I had to explore along the ridge and push out a distance to find it, but that along with a boomer thermal that came through got me up to 511 metres, enough to fly the back of the slope and come in doing laps of the fort (show off!).

So overall it was well worth the drive and strenuous climb, I've finally found a E/SE slope that's thermic and has a decent landing area for scalies.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on May 20, 2014, 18:59:28 PM
This probably doesn't help, Eric, but I use you guys to justify my hangar!

LOL
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on May 20, 2014, 21:23:22 PM
Thanks for the great Beacon Hill report, Mark.  I'm impressed you got those planes up there, I seem to recall that part of the climb is steep enough to be at risk of falling over!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Allen the soarer on May 21, 2014, 20:50:30 PM
Although it's nice to see these babes
I not sure you can call them slope babes if they are on a flat field  $%&
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: SpringHead on May 21, 2014, 21:04:54 PM
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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on May 24, 2014, 11:05:46 AM
Had a nice session at Ramsgate yesterday doing a bit of cliff soaring with Ian an old flying buddy.(Nicholls on this forum). Edit: Should have said "flying buddy from the olden days" - and he's even older than me. (That's for calling me an old boy on this forum the other day!)  ;)

This was above the Western Undercliffe at the west end of Ramsgate, where there is a short section of the cliffs which face SSW. This is ideal for Thanet soarers who, when there is a south westerly blowing, don't fancy the long drive to Folkestone or Wye.

The cliff is only 15 metres high but gives excellent lift and there is a good landing zone behind on an old pitch and putt golf course which you need to walk back to, to land on. Best to use either a Wildy, Zagi or some other medium sized model with ailerons as the landing area isn't enormous, just reasonable but requiring an accurate circuit and approach.
However, there is also strong rotor, so you are effectively launching down wind as you cast your model seawards but the benefit is that you are standing in virtually still air when flying.

The only other hazard is the seagulls which are quite aggressive and at one time there must have been at least thirty seagulls threatening my model. The local inhabitants and dog walkers are quite friendly and they stop to chat.

A good option for Thanet soarers who can normally only fly on the north coast of the Isle, however it's not worth a special journey from other parts of the southeast.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on May 24, 2014, 11:31:03 AM
Good to know, thanks Eric.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on May 24, 2014, 11:32:02 AM
By the way I bumped into Ray at Thurnham the other day, he's wondering where everybody is...

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: jonniebgood on May 24, 2014, 16:13:38 PM
I thought that was Hulk Hogan for a moment,   ;D
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on May 24, 2014, 16:36:03 PM
Good to know, thanks Eric.
I thought it was quite a reasonable site (not for beginners though) and that it might save someone a bit of petrol money.

By the way I bumped into Ray at Thurnham the other day, he's wondering where everybody is...
The wind has been a bit too south and east for Thurnham recently.
Any east or any north at Thurnham, however little, and the main slope lift rapidly starts to disappear especially if you are low down and not making use of thermal lift.  :'(
If it's south east you can fly from the little knoll to the west, but that's too far for Ray to walk.
Generally if it's south or south east, then most people migrate to Holly Hill or Wrotham (if a member of the Invicta Club) or Abbotts Cliff for the brave souls who don't mind donating their gliders to the French.  ;)
Unfortunately Ray doesn't have the internet to access the more detailed and accurate forecasts that we can get online, so if the wind is blowing generally from the south, then he heads for Thurnham, which is not where we'll be if there's some east in it.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Spoons on May 25, 2014, 21:21:55 PM
I made it to Thurnham today.
Was after mid day.
The wind was a wee bit south, plenty of boomers but lots of holes too.
Got a wee bit bumpy at times due to the wind speed, but above all I made the most of the nice thermic conditions.
Got to fly my beat up bitsa ceres after its 4 year (Yes 4 year) resto !
Flew superb, so I guess that I can paint it (Not !)

Also was breaking in a new transmitter too, which your alway worried about due to range and ensuring that you have the right set-up for you models.

Above all really enjoyed my session today and my daughter loved running around the field.

I will be back soon !

Jon
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on May 26, 2014, 08:45:21 AM
Good to have you back again Jon.
I had intended to get to Thurnham yesterday afternoon but the repairs to the fencing at my son's house took a lot longer than expected and didn't get finished until 5pm.

Minster Cliffs for me this afternoon.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: terry white on May 26, 2014, 11:46:11 AM
Eric, You must forget all these fences to repair and cliffs to 'bung off' you've got Foxes to get ready. ;D just 19 days to go before you are 'bunging' it off our slopes. :af  cant wait  regards Terry
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on May 26, 2014, 14:25:57 PM
Worry not Terry, it's raining now and so I'm not going flying . . . . . just yet!
 
Radio installation nearly complete - but I do need to finalise the C of G position.
Simon said his is just in front of the wing joiner so I'll put it there. 
Does that concur with your experience?.
However, how far is just in front?  ;)  I'll put it about 1/4" in front of the joiner and be ultra ready on the elevator.
It's a bit like the old debate, what's the order of magnitude amongst a tad, a smidgeon, a gnats, a hairs breadth, a fag paper, a tweak,  etc?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on May 27, 2014, 08:53:42 AM
I'm pretty sure from the article written about the Purbeck Fox that the CG is supposed to be on the wing joiner and that the writer was going to move it back slightly having test flown.  Mine is on the front edge of the joiner which would mean I'm slightly nose heavy - which is a surprise really as I would say I normally fly slightly tail heavy.  To be honest I can't remember how she performs in the dive test but Ithought she was pretty neutral....
The rear of the tailplane is quite built up so perhaps mine has a bit of positive (or is it negative, iI can never remember the way the convention is!).
I'm in the middle of replacing all the servos so will be able to do some fine tuning soon!

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on May 27, 2014, 10:42:46 AM
Thanks for the info Simon, I'll adjust accordingly.

My only other concern is the tailplane mounting which like yours has been built up but not to the contour of the bottom of the tailplane leaving a gap at the leading edge and a gap at the hinge line. It's still at the same incidence as the original mounting so I can't really see why it's been done and it looks a bit odd - very strange. Anyway the tailplane is quite secure there with two 4mm steel bolts holding it in place, so I think the thing to do is to fly it to find out where it needs to sit with elevators at neutral and then modify the mounting to suit.

The platform for the receivers, switches and LED displays has been built and fitted over the wing joiner tube, the platform for the two Sub Cs at the nose has also been fitted and two heavy duty 24" long power leads will be installed from the batteries to switches on the receiver platform.  The additional servo extension lead to the second elevator servo will be fitted today along with making a start on re-hinging just the outer ailerons, the inners being fine. The tow release installed in the nose works well, so I'll fit a servo and pull rod for that as I would like to get it towed up at the Baldock event in July, even though it might come down rather quickly. The chance to try and do some greaser landings on a lovely mown surface can't be passed up.

Note to others: For anyone wanting to do their first aerotows or just enjoy a great day out either flying or spectating, the North London Club's Aerotow event on 6th July at Baldock in Hertfordshire is absolutely ideal. Simon and I painlessly did our first aerotows there under the excellent guidance and assistance of John and Pat from the Ghost Squadron.
http://www.scalesoaring.co.uk/Calendar/Calendar.html (http://www.scalesoaring.co.uk/Calendar/Calendar.html)

Eric

Here's a few photos of Simon and ojef at the Baldock event to hopefully whet your appetite to attend.
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General views of this lovely flying site
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Simon prepping the Big Fox
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Simon's first aerotow approaches
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Go, go Simon
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Simon at the controls of the Big Fox with Pat the tug pilot alongside and ojef nonchalantly piloting his Minimoa nearby.
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Happy daze for ojef
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ojef in posing mode for one of his admirers!
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I just managed to out span Simon's Fox with my 5 metre ASW17.  ;)
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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on June 02, 2014, 14:50:34 PM
On my lonesome up at Thurnham. Grey sky's but v thermally, wind with probably too much South in it but once you're up its a blast!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on June 03, 2014, 17:54:18 PM
Work planner has played a blinder. Enough work only for Thursday morning, down at Devils Dyke, funny enough. 

Anyone else fancy a couple of hours early afternoon Mill Hill Thursday?

Jef
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on June 04, 2014, 13:45:39 PM
We'll be at Thurnham Jeff

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Rob Thomson on June 04, 2014, 14:53:42 PM
I may look to join you all :)

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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Rob Thomson on June 04, 2014, 20:57:26 PM
OK.  100% I will be joining you tomorrow :)

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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on June 04, 2014, 21:13:03 PM
Great Rob, there should be some good stuff to see ....

Simon
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Rob Thomson on June 04, 2014, 21:13:55 PM
Like my new merlin?  :)

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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on June 04, 2014, 21:29:43 PM
Great Rob, there should be some good stuff to see ....
Simon

 :xx  :xx  :af
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on June 05, 2014, 06:41:54 AM
Like my new merlin?  :)

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Yes, really looking forward to seeing that Rob.  Eric has a new toy too!.....

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Rob Thomson on June 05, 2014, 07:18:20 AM
I should be there round 10:30 to 11:00.

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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on June 05, 2014, 08:00:08 AM
Save some wind for us Rob! . . . Simon, Paul W and I have planned to get there at 1:30pm.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Rob Thomson on June 05, 2014, 09:14:11 AM
Lol.  Will do my best :)

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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Rob Thomson on June 05, 2014, 19:13:50 PM
Nice day to day :)

Reasonable lift.  Good company.  Sun shine!

Only casualty before I left was Trevor loosing his model.  Gone for good :(



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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on June 05, 2014, 20:26:32 PM

Only casualty before I left was Trevor loosing his model.  Gone for good :(

I missed that Rob...what happened? Is it something we can send a search party out for?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Rob Thomson on June 05, 2014, 20:44:12 PM
He was flying a great big 3m mouldie.

It went over the trees on the left of the hill (over where the cars get parked).  He seems to have had a radio outage.

He spent a good hour looking.  Myself and Byron another 30 mins - but not a trace.   

It vanished into all the thick scrub land, trees and brambles. 

Byron lent him his camera so we filmed the area from above - maybe it will shown up something!  Personally...  I suspect it will be found in winter when the leaves drop!

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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Heath on June 05, 2014, 20:47:13 PM
Where are you lot off to tomorrow... Last day of my week off and would like to meet a few of the Thurnham massif!!
Not got a soarer ready yet still in process of the Wildthing mk3 and speedo mk2 but nearly there!..in the pipeline.
The wildthing MK1 has been decapitated and awaiting straightening.. R.I.P possibly...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on June 05, 2014, 21:05:52 PM
Where are you lot off to tomorrow... Last day of my week off and would like to meet a few of the Thurnham massif!!
Not got a soarer ready yet still in process of the Wildthing mk3 and speedo mk2 but nearly there!..in the pipeline.
The wildthing MK1 has been decapitated and awaiting straightening.. R.I.P possibly...

Looks like Holly Hill will be flyable tomorrow Municope, I won't be out tomorrow but maybe others will be.

Rob, I'll take a stroll around the trees by the castle if I get a chance...what colour is the missing model?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Heath on June 05, 2014, 21:30:02 PM
OK cool, will take a ride up....  :)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Rob Thomson on June 05, 2014, 21:32:14 PM
Looks like Holly Hill will be flyable tomorrow Municope, I won't be out tomorrow but maybe others will be.

Rob, I'll take a stroll around the trees by the castle if I get a chance...what colour is the missing model?

Pink under the wing - believe it was white on top.

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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on June 05, 2014, 21:43:23 PM
Rob, Count me in for being one of the search party. I live less than 10 miles away so it's easy and no problem for me to visit and take a look for you guys.


Had a successful session at Thurnham this afternoon - the Artic Fox was maidened today.  :D

Simon launched his Big Fox first on a pathfinder mission to prove that the lift was excellent and just perfect for a
maiden. Initially the first excellent launch by Paul failed through the aircraft being under elevated resulting in a very
short flight with a heavy landing.

This then showed up a problem with the twin rear elevator servo mountings. I would have gone home to fix it but with the help (arm twisting) of Simon and Paul - they were determined to see the Arctic Fox fly - the problem was fixed in 15 minutes.

As Simon had his Big Fox there as well we were able to check the longitudinal dihedral (decalage) and with the elevator of the Arctic Fox set to the same setting as the Big Fox another launch was attempted.

This time all went smoothly and there was no need to touch any of the trims at all, the Fox flew straight as die and feeling very comfortable with it I was happy to do chandelles, loops and rolls on my first flight with it. Paul then launched the Big Fox for Simon and we soon had the two Foxes tailchasing around the sky doing low, low passes for Mr Goodwind. 

Landing was straightforward with the airbrakes being very powerful, the long grass cushioning the first landing of the Arctic Fox in my hands.

Many thanks to Simon and Paul for their help and encouragement (You will fly the Arctic Fox today!!). It was an ideal day to carry out a maiden flight of an untried model.

Thanks also to Charlie and David for their help with the launch and photography.

The next time the Fox will fly will be at the Purbeck Convention in Dorset in 9 days time -can't wait!!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: terry white on June 05, 2014, 23:05:24 PM
Hi Eric,

I am so pleased that you are enjoying the Fox. As you say
although big when on the ground and even bigger during the launch she is a pussy cat with lots of presence in the air which allows the pilot to threw it around with confidence.Well done; Its obviously gone to a good home and I can't wait to see it on our slopes again. :uk:

A thread of your achievement in her refurbishment on the SSUK forum; perhaps taking it up to and beyond the Purbeck bash would interest a great number of people.If you wished I would join in and post photos and stories of how it was before Ali bought it.

The life and times of the Arctic Fox ! :af

Regards to all Terry

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on June 06, 2014, 08:55:53 AM
Thanks Terry,

Yes I'll put a thread up on SSUK if you think people will be interested. I'm conscious that I've posted quite a bit on here lately so I didn't want to be hogging the threads and boring people. It will be interesting so see what info you still have about 'our' Arctic Fox. Simon gave me hard copies of the three articles that Carl wrote about the build of the first production model  - very interesting.

You can be assured that Arctic Fox will now make it to Dorset intact now that I've (we've - it was a collective effort) got the first flight out of the way.

Launching big models at Thurnham is quite hairy as there is a fence not too far from the launch point and despite Paul's superhuman launching technique, when he thrusts Foxes into the air, the aircraft is still on the stall and has to be dived back down to the ground to gain flying speed until nearly at the fence and then skim that with just a few feet to spare.

At the launch even though I put in some down, Simon was quietly telling me "Down, down!" to build up that precious airspeed - once over the fence the Arctic Fox is, as you say, a real pussy cat! Thanks to the two guys who held back from flying their models (well I suppose they didn't want their models wiped out) while Simon and I were hooning about the slope for 10 - 15 minutes.

The lift started to die a bit so I then experienced the 'Purbeck Fox flyers in Kent's' clenched backside effect of 'where's the lift gone and can I make enough height to get into a landing circuit'. I was a bit low in the circuit and a little fast being careful of not inducing a downwind tip stall so I pulled out the brakes and not realising quite how effective they are, ended up landing a bit short but happily near to Mr Goodwind who was collecting footage (bytes?) for his blog.

Sorry I've gone on a bit but the adrenelin is still pumping and it was afterwards so much so that Simon and I had to have a pint of Doombar in the Black Horse pub at the bottom of the hill, the one which is featured in Mr Goodwind's excellent 'Pub Combat' video. However I'm sure a pint of your local Piddle (yes people, it is actually called that) will be even better after a day's flying on the Isle of Purbeck.

Anyway, the Thurnham Massive are gathering en-masse to join you guys next weekend, it will be a good one even if the rain gods visit us or the wind gods don't.

Cheers in advance, Eric
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Rob Thomson on June 07, 2014, 19:00:05 PM
Brief video of my Merlin's maiden flight on Thursday this week at thurnham.

https://plus.google.com/114250389074437736385/posts/ZnBvGgSLrAg



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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on June 08, 2014, 00:26:15 AM
. . . and a brief video of the maiden flight of my Purbeck Sailplanes 'Arctic Fox' at Thurnham on Thursday along with Simon's 'Big Fox' showing me the way. They are beautiful aircraft to fly.  :)  :)

Thanks Paul for a great video production.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2uEMNWFf8A#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2uEMNWFf8A#ws)
Video courtesy of Goodwind Soaring - http://goodwindsoaring.blogspot.co.uk/ (http://goodwindsoaring.blogspot.co.uk/)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on June 12, 2014, 11:59:57 AM
Purbeck Convention -
Has everyone seen the update from Terry on either Facebook or the Scale Soaring Forum?
See you all down there on Saturday morning!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on June 12, 2014, 17:04:11 PM
Thanks Mark, seen it now. Not sure I'll be by 10.30am on Saturday, I suspect traffic might make it more like 11am-midday that I arrive.  No doubt we can keep in touch by phone to work out where everyone is.  See you there.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on June 12, 2014, 18:09:24 PM

Only casualty before I left was Trevor loosing his model.  Gone for good :(



or maybe not?......

http://goodwindsoaring.blogspot.co.uk/2014/06/lost-and-found.html (http://goodwindsoaring.blogspot.co.uk/2014/06/lost-and-found.html)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: jiberjaber on June 12, 2014, 19:06:05 PM
Fox looks ace Eric. Makes me want to finish the ASW off.....

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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on June 13, 2014, 08:42:39 AM
Fox looks ace Eric. Makes me want to finish the ASW off.....
Thanks Jason it is a lovely aircraft to fly and the two Foxes in the air together look great.

Crack on with completing your ASW.  :af
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Rob Thomson on June 13, 2014, 08:48:48 AM
or maybe not?......

[url]http://goodwindsoaring.blogspot.co.uk/2014/06/lost-and-found.html[/url] ([url]http://goodwindsoaring.blogspot.co.uk/2014/06/lost-and-found.html[/url])


who has the glider?

I can pick up got trevor on Monday.   got a job to do in Maidstone.

rob

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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: jonniebgood on June 13, 2014, 09:51:41 AM
or maybe not?......

[url]http://goodwindsoaring.blogspot.co.uk/2014/06/lost-and-found.html[/url] ([url]http://goodwindsoaring.blogspot.co.uk/2014/06/lost-and-found.html[/url])


Well spotted Paul.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Weds on June 13, 2014, 10:21:58 AM
or maybe not?......

[url]http://goodwindsoaring.blogspot.co.uk/2014/06/lost-and-found.html[/url] ([url]http://goodwindsoaring.blogspot.co.uk/2014/06/lost-and-found.html[/url])


Thats a long way down the hill....
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on June 13, 2014, 10:40:33 AM
who has the glider?

I can pick up got trevor on Monday.   got a job to do in Maidstone.


Rob, I have the glider...pm sent
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Spoons on June 14, 2014, 10:13:30 AM
So after all of the bike riding training I have done this year I have had little time for model flying.
But last weekend was my huge ride around the Brecon Beacons.
140 Miles of riding in 11 hours and 6 mins.
While in Wales I went up to the 'Very Mighty Bwlch' and had one, one hour long flight with my ceres hybrid.
One launch, one flight, one landing.

But since having a little bit more free time now the event is done, I headed down to Cliffe field for a thermal session with the Winch.

First couple of launches were a bit ropey (Its been a while), but after I got the eye back in and the model set-up sorted out I was doing some half decent lanuches in the end.

I even got treated as Sir Bob Ryan turned up.

Nice sweaty afternoon with plenty of lift coming through :)

Picture attached is my winch set-up (if any of you have questions about winching, then please ask, or if you want to join me for an afternoon session in the summer, again please shout.)

Jon
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Spoons on June 14, 2014, 10:27:12 AM
South Wales, whats not to love !
View from Wrecker and Crest of Wrecker and a 'Big' Thumbs up from me.

If you have never flown here, its worth the day trip !
Huge lift and a lovely edge to fly along with plenty of compression.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: jiberjaber on June 14, 2014, 14:02:47 PM
Thanks Jason it is a lovely aircraft to fly and the two Foxes in the air together look great.

Crack on with completing your ASW.  :af


Might do something with this lady too...

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/14/upy5age4.jpg)

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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on June 15, 2014, 22:01:36 PM
This morning, we had seen the North Easterly forecast, so after breakfast, my son and I set off for Ditchling Beacon. He had suggested that we went flying, to celebrate Father's Day.

Ditchling Beacon was closed today due to the London - Brighton Bicycle ride route going right over it.

Thanks to a comment on the Slopehunter site though, I knew that Bo Peep and Ditchling both worked in the same wind directions.

So I took Gary and his FlyFly Fox, and my Minimoa, to Bo Peep. Ironically, when we tried to fly Bo Peep last year, the day we turned up there, there was a vintage motorcycle hill climb, so the lane was shut! 

Great session and no breakage  :af (I broke the Fox last time it flew - which was also on Father's Day, but the wind had been South Westerly, as we had gone to Thurnham and I had launched at a bad time, the air had 'died' so the plane made it's way to the bottom of the hill before crashing).

Jef

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: rob1953 on June 16, 2014, 14:23:43 PM
Warden point looking good for tomorrow (Tuesday) anybody going?
I should be there midday.
Les
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: reverendkrv2 on June 17, 2014, 01:43:14 AM
should be there sometime in the afternoon Les :)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on June 17, 2014, 20:40:16 PM
Clearing out a few models that don't get much airtime...offering them on here before BMFA, pm if interested!

DLG- £60 SOLD


Alpina- £300 SOLD


Castor- £100 SOLD

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on June 17, 2014, 21:29:14 PM
Aghhh....an Alpina Magic, you temptress Mr Goodwind!
I would if it weren't for those pesky recent car servicing costs, however I am down a glider at the moment...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on June 18, 2014, 08:00:45 AM
I had a look at potential coastal soaring sites in Dorset, found lots of lovely cliffs with sloping hills on top so you don't need to launch over the sea. Some are easy to access and seem perfect, some involve a hike, and some are on military land and only flyable on certain days such as Sundays. Couldn't test them because it was north wind that day. Must get back there soon.

But, let's face it, some of the best spots in the country are on the South Downs, so there is no real reason to head further afield unless we fancy a change.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on June 18, 2014, 11:01:49 AM
Aghhh....an Alpina Magic, you temptress Mr Goodwind!
I would if it weren't for those pesky recent car servicing costs, however I am down a glider at the moment...

Salome DLG gone to a very good home.

A 'maybe' on the Alpina, I can put your name on the list if you like Mark.....
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on June 18, 2014, 20:22:01 PM
Alpina now sold
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: SpringHead on June 18, 2014, 20:52:56 PM
But..................not to a very good home! :af
Damn, the wind doesn't look too good for sloping over the next few days.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on June 19, 2014, 17:57:52 PM
Try this then Martin!!

Alan Head's latest?  ???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1C_ZS7y5Lg#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1C_ZS7y5Lg#ws)

Well, who'd have thought it possible!
Where's young Steve?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gyqyzf3UH40#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gyqyzf3UH40#ws)




Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: SpringHead on June 19, 2014, 18:35:27 PM
Very impressed by both videos


Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: tilmanb on June 19, 2014, 18:37:56 PM
Giga Wiesel  beer lift. Go watch. :)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Spoons on June 19, 2014, 20:33:50 PM
tree dsing, there is a video of Joe Wurts somewhere on youtube dsing trees at radio glide or a f3b w/c sometime in the 90's.
still balls of steels.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on June 19, 2014, 20:42:02 PM
Everything now sold thanks chaps  :)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on June 20, 2014, 16:23:01 PM
I always like to try to be slope soaring at sunset on the longest day of the year and it looks as though it's going to be either Warden Point or Minster Slopes according to the Met Office or Thurnham according to WeatherSpark.

However, at sunrise both of them say Thurnham, so I might change the habit of many years and get up early for a bit of sloping.

The sun rises at about 4:40am, but that's a bit early but I might toddle along there at about 6am for an hour or so before the wind turns north west.

Anyone else up for it - either am or pm?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on June 20, 2014, 17:04:15 PM
I've got a lot on tomorrow Eric, but post your predicted sortie once decided....I will pop
up on the slim chance I get an opportunity.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: SpringHead on June 20, 2014, 17:12:47 PM
Likewise


Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on June 20, 2014, 17:37:52 PM
Camping with family tomorrow, may burn wikka glider/dance naked/drink cider to celebrate the Solstice...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on June 20, 2014, 18:36:58 PM
I forgot about the summer solstice, what is wrong with me!

We'll have to do a post-solstice session once the wind improves.

Best of luck with your breakfast soaring, Eric. Often it's pretty windstill at that time of morning but you never know, it might work out great.



Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on June 20, 2014, 18:38:53 PM
By the way here is Simon's entry to the Slope Babe competition:

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on June 20, 2014, 18:41:28 PM
(They were hiking past us and Simon just grabbed them. His chutzpah struck me as sort of equally admirable and alarming.)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on June 20, 2014, 18:50:01 PM
I forgot about the summer solstice, what is wrong with me!

We'll have to do a post-solstice session once the wind improves.

Best of luck with your breakfast soaring, Eric. Often it's pretty windstill at that time of morning but you never know, it might work out great.
You keep forgetting things this year Gary - if I were you I'd start getting a bit worried!  ;)  :af

I'll keep a close eye on the wind direction and strength for the evening and post a likely venue here.

Edit at 07:50hrs
WSW all this morning and possibly into the afternoon - it's Thurnham for me.
PS - it was blowing nicely SW at 5am this morning.
Sunset soaring looks as though it will be Minster Cliffs.- nice view of the sun setting across the Thames Estuary from there.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on June 21, 2014, 08:54:08 AM
By the way here is Simon's entry to the Slope Babe competition:

In retrospect, it's not so much "Slope Babe" as "Slope Bait"!

Shock news from the Dorset Chronicle - " Year 10 Duke of Edinburgh entrants plagued by unwarranted attentions of old men with toy aeroplanes"

In my defence, Paul started it and was rebuffed, so I thought I should demonstrate how it should be done!

Hides in shame......

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on June 21, 2014, 09:29:12 AM
The start of making room in my hanger space, I also need to have a clear out.
I have just too many models that are not being used - more to come, but I am making sure they are flyable before posting.

FOR SALE here before listing on the BMFA Classified section.

FlyFly 'Freebird' - A tidy compact glider.

* Gloss red fibreglass fuselage - it has just been resprayed and nicely matches the wing and tailplane
* Wingspan: 1455 mm / 57.25 inches with a little bit of usage evidence!
* Length: 835 mm / 32.8 inches
* Airfoil: MH32
* Flying weight: approx 590gm / 1.3 lbs according to FlyFly - not sure what this one weighs but it flys nicely.
* RC functions: aileron and elevator - The fibreglass fin can be modified to add a rudder if required.

Two servos in the wing for ailerons with extension leads - one servo in fuselage for elevator.
Aileron servos can be driven through a y-lead or mixed using two channels in the receiver (Futaba 1 & 7, Spektrum 1 & 6)
You will need to add a battery, receiver of your choice and maybe a bit of lead to get her airborne.
I will also print out a copy of the FlyFly instruction sheet for the Freebird and also email the file if wanted.

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Price - £60

Please PM me if interested.

http://www.flyflyhobby.com/products_detail/&productId=32.html (http://www.flyflyhobby.com/products_detail/&productId=32.html)

http://www.gliders.uk.com/prodinfo.asp?number=FF-B003 (http://www.gliders.uk.com/prodinfo.asp?number=FF-B003)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on June 21, 2014, 09:46:19 AM
Good stuff Eric.  Only another 60 or so to go before your fleet size becomes manageable!

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on June 21, 2014, 11:13:17 AM
I'm sure you'd like to relieve me of my 'Plankenstein' then?  ;)  :af
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: SpringHead on June 21, 2014, 13:11:15 PM
Off to Thurnham now with the Alpina and Lebelle hope to see somebody down there


Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on June 21, 2014, 23:37:23 PM
Me again, but I think you'll like this one!

Had a great billy-no-mates session from just before noon until just after 1:30pm with the wind blowing a nice Force 3-4 from the south west with thermals popping off everywhere. In fact on my first launch the model lifted straight out of my hand and went straight up until I chickened out. The one paraglider there was also doing well. All I had to keep me company was an 'Old Speckled Hen'.

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Martin and Mark arrived shortly after 1:30 pm when the wind had swung further west and the slope lift died and so it was necessary to rely solely on thermals and luck. Martin and Mark both did very well in the testing conditions. The thermals were massive but so was the sink that followed. Mark was exceptionally courageous chucking off when it seemed there was no lift about but searching out the air low down until he struck gold each time - well done that man. Martin's Libelle was very versatile and he kindly let me have a go - great fun! - I'm impressed.


. . . And so to the 'Summer Solistice Sunset Soaring Session'.

Yes, I did go to the Minster Cliffs, had a good session with my Graupner 'Terry' and in the process I bagged myself a couple of 'slope babes'.

I was walking down the steps from the cliff top to the seawall at the bottom of the slope flying the Terry at the same time, when I passed our two young ladies who they said the were very impressed with my flying of the model. I carried on down and then i realised that i had missed an opportunity. I hurriedly landed the model and ran back up the steps to catch them at the top. Puffing heavily (luckily I had taken my heart pills today), I explained the 'Slope Babes 2014' competition and they agreed to take part. Below is the result - may I enter please Mr Goodwind?

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After all that excitement I then retired to the nearby pub for a pint of 'Peroni'.

Tomorrow is an aerotow event at Thatcham in Berkshire and I've just finished packing the Glidermobile leaving room for Simon and his ASG 29 - it should be a good session as I'm hoping to do my first aerotow with the Arctic Fox.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on June 22, 2014, 07:06:26 AM
Great stuff Eric, but did you manage to get their ages so we could decide whether to enter them for the  "Slope Babe" or "Slope Bait" competition?!

Si

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on June 22, 2014, 19:46:50 PM
Just as a reminder of where bare faced cheek can get you...

[imghttp://([url]http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee324/swarrans/IMG-20120820-00014.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s532.photobucket.com/user/swarrans/media/IMG-20120820-00014.jpg.html[/url])[/img]

I have her as my PC lock screen and she makes me smile every time she pops up!


Si


I was explaining the rules of the Slope Babes competition, mentioning that some of Eric's entries were being categorised as "Slope Bait" (which I thought was very funny) and showed her this one as an example of a great entry... "That's not your plane is it?" she growled  $%&
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: heffone on June 22, 2014, 21:36:41 PM
Did any one see the 6 helicopters in a line  that flew along the east alone the south cost over Hastings midday and then back over Hastings  about four on the Sunday. They were Robinson R44s and R22s   impressive to see I wonder were they were off to.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on June 22, 2014, 22:23:16 PM
I hurriedly landed the model and ran back up the steps to catch them at the top. Puffing heavily (luckily I had taken my heart pills today), I explained the 'Slope Babes 2014' competition and they agreed to take part. Below is the result - may I enter please Mr Goodwind?


Isn't "Slope Babes" Gary's baby? or maybe he deny any connection now it's slipped into the realms of utter perviness....
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: The Saint. (Owen) on June 22, 2014, 23:44:30 PM

[imghttp://([url]http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee324/swarrans/IMG-20120820-00014.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s532.photobucket.com/user/swarrans/media/IMG-20120820-00014.jpg.html[/url])[/img]



Nice wings.   :study:
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on June 23, 2014, 00:18:42 AM
Isn't "Slope Babes" Gary's baby? or maybe he deny any connection now it's slipped into the realms of utter perviness....

Sorry Paul, I thought it was your creation and my apologies to Gary for the misrepresentation.
I must be getting confused which is easy for me as I'm now 87 years old, but I was under the impression that you were posting the entries on your blog. However, I do luckily have a 27 year old wife and carer to help me through the day.  ;)
http://goodwindsoaring.blogspot.co.uk/p/hill-side-honies-and-sloping-slappers.html (http://goodwindsoaring.blogspot.co.uk/p/hill-side-honies-and-sloping-slappers.html)




Sunday's happenings
Simon, Mark and I visited Seige Cross Farm private airstrip in Thatcham, Berkshire for the Thames Valley SA glider towing event.
The day was very well attended with about 30 fliers being present.
Excellent weather with a good amount of thermal activity.
Lots of good company, nattering, eating and drinking, non-alcoholic of course.
Below are a few photos of the day.

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If anyone fancies having a try at glider towing the next event is on 6th July at the North London MFC's excellent close mown field at Baldock in Hertfordshire where Simon and I had our first experience of having our models towed up into the wide blue yonder by a big tug aircraft.
http://www.scalesoaring.co.uk/Calendar/Calendar.html (http://www.scalesoaring.co.uk/Calendar/Calendar.html)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on June 24, 2014, 08:08:06 AM
Darn it, just realised I can't make Baldock because I'm at my nephew's wedding in Oxford ... no way out of that one unfortunately.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on June 24, 2014, 08:35:49 AM
Are any of the "Thurnham Massive" going to Wings and Wheels at the weekend?  I need to buy a 12mm carbon rod and Bucks Composites have it but want £13 postage - they are going to W&W so a kind soul could pick it up for me?

Shame you can't make Baldock Gary - for those that haven't been, it is the Rolls Royce of aerotowing IMHO (apart from Middle Wallop perhaps) - not only was the landing strip like a carpet last time, but there are proper loos and and a great barbeque at lunchtime.

Simon
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: reverendkrv2 on June 24, 2014, 23:03:05 PM
Looking ok for warden springs tomorrow,working in morning so should be there at around 2pm If it's favourable ;)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: rob1953 on June 25, 2014, 07:03:08 AM
I will be there from 1100 hours.
Les

Good day at warden springs with Alan, Dave and Kirk, until the next time Gents.
Les
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on June 27, 2014, 21:42:19 PM
I will be going to Thurnham tomorrow morning showing John Greenfield our wonderful slope!

Pete, should I bring the Salto?

Simon
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on June 27, 2014, 21:52:15 PM
What time are you aiming for Simon? I'll try and swing by at some point.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on June 28, 2014, 05:46:07 AM
John and I should be there by 9am Paul and i will stay until just after lunch as long as the weather cooperates.

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on June 28, 2014, 20:52:59 PM
Today at Wimbledon Thurnham

Well rain didn't stop play for Simon - see below.

Mark arrived early and had some good flying at about 8:30am, Simon arrived about 9am to welcome our guest for the day, John Greenfield from the North London MFC and the Ghost Squadron, he of 1/2 scale models fame, to experience the joys of soaring on our famous slope. Simon was having an epic flight at about 9:30 when the rains came but that didn't stop him as we all adjourned to the cowshed.

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After the rain cleared those flying gliders, ie. Simon and Mark had varying degrees of success with a couple of walks down the slope to retrieve their models - they weren't walks of shame as they were exceedingly brave to launch in the very light conditions. Charlie flew well in one of the brief periods of thermal lift activity and landed at his feet.

Those of us with electromotive force available, ie. John, Alan and me cheated a little and were able to fly without worrying about the lack of lift. John had a fascinating electrically powered paraglider that flew very realistically - the kit is actually produced by the people who make the full-size version. Photos of it can be seen on page 12 of the Purbeck Convention thread on SSUK - http://scalesoaring.co.uk/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1389807540/165#165 (http://scalesoaring.co.uk/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1389807540/165#165)

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It's there somewhere.

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“For oft, when on my slope I stand
In vacant or in pensive mood,
They flash upon that inward eye
Which is the bliss of solitude;
And then my heart with pleasure fills,
And dances with the daffodils the other slope nutters.”
  ;)
   with apologies to William Wordsworth


Paul was unable to fly his ASG27 as the winds were too light and instead dispensed his usual pearls of wisdom  :af . . . and also sold me his DLG - blast, I've gained yet another model when I'm supposed to be thinning out my fleet!  :banghead:

We also had a visitor from the land of Big Hills, Sussex by the Sea, i.e. Rob who made a 20 minute cameo appearance to maiden his 'Omikron'. It flew well when gliding but was underpowered in the electric motor department, but I'm sure he'll soon sort that issue.

A good session was had by all, and when the wind did finally blow WSW to enable us to demonstrate our favourite activity to John, he still came away with the opinion that flat field soaring works better for him and is a lot less hassle.  ;)



EDIT : As I was loading my car after everyone had left, a gentleman accompanied a young lad walked up the path towards the gate and asked if anyone was flying and I told him that everyone had left as the wind was too light. They both looked disappointed and it turned out that the boy was the man's grandson and had had a glider but had crashed it. The lad who was about 10 -12 years old seemed very keen to get flying so I encouraged him to repair it and get back up to the slope and get it flying again. They live in Bearsted so there's a good chance that they will return. If anyone sees them on the slope please offer them assistance and if you have a suitable model please offer the lad a chance to fly your model - it's surprising how quickly the youngsters pick up the skills, I suppose it's because they spend quite a bit of time on various computer simulation games. Thanks.


Addendum.

That's better, a group of happy slopers.
Sorry Paul, you were still looking pensive and John looked like he was picking his nose with his transmitter, so you are both on the cutting room floor!

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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Rob Thomson on June 28, 2014, 21:35:01 PM
You forgot my 20 minute cameo appearance to maiden my omikron :)

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on June 28, 2014, 21:48:44 PM
Sorry Rob,
I shall update my posting accordingly . . . and I'll also include details of the family walking past with the son named Hugo and the daughter who both jumped over my model, the father that stepped across Mark's wing and the dog that liked to eat cowsh*t!
Yes, they all did that - unbelievable!!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on June 29, 2014, 04:10:58 AM
. . . and I'll also include details of the family walking past with the son named Hugo and the daughter who both jumped over my model, the father that stepped across Mark's wing and the dog that liked to eat cowsh*t!

They left pretty sharpish after all that, obviously our displeasure was picked up on!

We also had a private airshow from a solitary Spitfire that flew in low from the back of the hill and proceeded to do some fantastic aerobatics below slope level  :o great for those not flying but a bit disconcerting to those that were!! We had a proper waggle of the wings as he flew over too...best thing I've seen in the air for ages...you've gotta love Thurnham  :af
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Rob Thomson on June 29, 2014, 07:44:45 AM
Sorry Rob,
I shall update my posting accordingly . . . and I'll also include details of the family walking past with the son named Hugo and the daughter who both jumped over my model, the father that stepped across Mark's wing and the dog that liked to eat cowsh*t!
Yes, they all did that - unbelievable!!
Lol....  No need.   

As you have edited it.....   I am from the land of crap hills 'guildford'.   :(

But I do like to make my way to the land of big hills :)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on July 04, 2014, 19:47:24 PM
Sorry guys, it's me again - well someone has to put something on this thread.

A good session at Thurnham this afternoon with Simon, Mark, Charlie, Alan, Les, Barry and a few others I didn't recognise.
Paul sent his apologies.  ;) - see his blog here - http://goodwindsoaring.blogspot.co.uk/ (http://goodwindsoaring.blogspot.co.uk/)

Simon flew his Luna and Swift, Mark his ASH30 and Swift and I flew my ASH26 with my Arctic Fox waiting in the wings.. Simon then tested out the air for me with his Big Fox - Mark on launching duties in Paul's absence.  Conditions were OK so Mark gave the Arctic Fox a great launch, it actually went up rather than down as is the norm with Foxes at Thurnham, and I then had 30 minutes of variable conditions and bum clenching 'below the horizon at times' moments. After 30 minutes airtime we noticed that the rear canopy had come adrift, so I quickly landed and had another flight, this time hooning about with the ASH 26.

Simon and Mark practiced syncronised aerobatics with their Swifts with some interesting highlights to their session. Later on EricP arrived for some some fast aerobatics together with David doing triple dog-walking activities.

A great day's soaring with warm winds for a change.

Next activity for Simon, Mark and me, 'North London MFC Tugs and Gliders Aerotow Day' at Baldock on Sunday. Should be an interesting one with the forecast wind being at right angles to the runway.

PS - The beer tasted great when I got home after a day on the slope - i think i'll have another one!!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: RobtArm on July 05, 2014, 09:06:03 AM
I was one of the 'unrecognised' at Thurnham, flying relatively tiny models. Successful maidens for a Parkzone foam Ka8 and a s/h Phase 6. The Ka8 really had inadequate penetration for the wind strength and slightly 'flappy' wings. Will be fine in a bit less wind. The Phase 6 was fine. Thanks for the launches Barry and Simon respectively.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on July 05, 2014, 10:07:31 AM
Sorry about that RobtArm, but we do get people from all over the South East visiting our little pimple of a hill and I don't recognise everyone on the slope. Also I was quite busy sorting out the Arctic Fox . . . and I had to go for a pub lunch!

I'm pleased you had a good day. Even though they are quite old now, Phase 6s are excellent. I think they are great, so much so that I've got four of them. More models to dispose of!

Luckily I live less than ten miles from the slope and i can get there quite regularly, however I won't be there today as I have to repair the rear canopy of the 'Arctic Fox' in preparation for tomorrow's aerotow session at Baldock.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on July 05, 2014, 11:01:20 AM
Sorry .... .. I won't be there today as I have to repair the rear canopy of the 'Arctic Fox' in preparation for tomorrow's aerotow session at Baldock.

Wish I could join you again Eric, but am committed to a Kent Interclub competition just round the corner from Thurnham at Cliffe.

Haven't flown there for 14 years, so am hoping for it to trigger some happy memories... although the view of the Essex coast, from there, has changed significantly (for me) as I worked in both the refineries opposite Cliffe, until 2000. Shell Haven is now mostly owned by Dubai Ports World, and Mobil/BP/Petroplus is defunct, but I think most of it is still standing.

By the way, I am soon to be voluntarily 'without portfolio' and am actively seeking work. My skills (other than flying smashing gliders) are HNC Mech Eng, Power Station Production Tech, Gas and Oil Pipeline Technician, Field Service Engineer. If you hear of anything Oil/Gas/Power, I am interested! 

Jef
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on July 06, 2014, 21:23:54 PM
Yes, it was a good day at Baldock today with Simon, Mark and me being able to attend. There was a good turnout with some excellent models flying. I took some photos so as soon as my phone has sufficient charge in it to transfer them to my laptop, I'll post a few pictures.

The Kent InterClub competitions - ah yes, I remember when we started them many, many years ago. There used to be ten clubs taking part and we regularly had 40 competitors. Which club to you fly for?

The company I work for does regularly advertise engineering vacancies, so I'll keep a look out for you.

Back shortly with some photos from today . . . . .
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on July 06, 2014, 21:46:52 PM
Yes, it was a good day at Baldock today with Simon, Mark and me being able to attend. There was a good turnout with some excellent models flying. I took some photos so as soon as my phone has sufficient charge in it to transfer them to my laptop, I'll post a few pictures.

The Kent InterClub competitions - ah yes, I remember when we started them many, many years ago. There used to be ten clubs taking part and we regularly had 40 competitors. Which club to you fly for?

The company I work for does regularly advertise engineering vacancies, so I'll keep a look out for you.

Back shortly with some photos from today . . . . .

For the purposes of flying in the KIC, I am a Bromley Soaring Club member. I always fly off the winch, in these, but to be honest, it would be a lot less hassle if I were to fly an electric model in the Multi Launch Glider Comps. Just love flying the old winch models every now and again.

Any help, regarding getting work, I would be VERY grateful!

Looking forward to seeing the photos.

J

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Spoons on July 06, 2014, 22:11:26 PM
Jef have you done a google search.
there are plenty of contracting jobs for oil and gas engineers.
jobsite and matchtech spring to mind.
I was going to be at GAC today (My club), but when I went to load last few bits in my car it was raining cats and dogs.
Spent the next hour second guessing myself, and then the mrs made the choice for me.

Then when simons fb update came through I used the words bo110x quite a bit.

Never mind.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on July 06, 2014, 23:56:10 PM
North London MFC Tugs and Gliders Day organised by the Ghost Squadron. Thanks to John, Pat and Tony together with the other tug pilot for their efforts today.

Our 'camp' at Baldock with Ali Machinchy Senior one side and Antonia the other with Simon's 40% ASG29, my Arctic Fox and Mark's 30% ASG 29 ready to go.
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John Greenfield and Simon getting the Mighty ASG29 safely away.
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Simon's ASG29 pilot having a well earned rest after a flight to 1500 feet!
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Simon having a break while Mark has another amazingly high flight - how does he do it?
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Many people now choose to travel to these events in panel vans such is the size of their models.
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A few thousand pounds worth of up-and-go powered sailplane, an ASH31 - very nice!
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An interesting range of beautifully prepared models were on view.
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Half scale DG1000, 8.8 metres wingspan weighing 29 kilograms which had a thermal-only flight of two and a half hours!
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Antonia repairing her model after an unfortunate arrival misshap.
Mel does the ironing while Antonia does the techie stuff!
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At the end of the day Simon decided to show us his 3D skills but was mortified when he handed his transmitter to Ali Machinchy's 9 year old grandson and he showed us how to really fly 3D. Simon has now hired him to be his instructor!
It transpired that he is quite capable of flying a 50cc powered Extra in full 3D mode - wow!
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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on July 08, 2014, 20:49:29 PM
A few more, not so quite well composed, photos from Baldock.

Some more general views.
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The 'innards' of Geoff's Tangent ASH26 - a lovely flier - I know 'cos I've got one as well!
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Geoff's immaculate Ka8 with a gorgeous set of Graupner radio gear.
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Ray's hard working tug.
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Another pic of Simon and John taking the ASG29 up - this time a bit earlier in the take-off run.
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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on July 09, 2014, 07:53:31 AM
Looks like a wonderful spacious site, I must make it there next year.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on July 09, 2014, 09:53:23 AM
The cross wind made landing a little tricky but it's a lovely site with short grass that actually works with retractable wheels!

Fri looking promising for Firle btw...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on July 09, 2014, 16:29:14 PM
Paul Eric and I were thinking of going tomorrow Mark as the weather looked better (and I have to work Friday morning) but I'm not so sure about the weather now - it depends what prediction site you believe!

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Weds on July 09, 2014, 16:43:27 PM
Paul Eric and I were thinking of going tomorrow Mark as the weather looked better (and I have to work Friday morning) but I'm not so sure about the weather now - it depends what prediction site you believe!

Si

I'm up for tomorrow if your going, let me know...

Pete..
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on July 09, 2014, 16:49:02 PM
I'm up for tomorrow if your going, let me know...

Pete..

I still think tomorrow is looking best - shall I bring the Salto Pete?

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on July 09, 2014, 17:53:38 PM
Yup...showers on Fri now, drat! Working all day tomorrow so I may risk Fri...just not take anything huge!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Weds on July 09, 2014, 21:35:01 PM
I still think tomorrow is looking best - shall I bring the Salto Pete?

Si

Do you take euro's..  :) Yes please...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on July 09, 2014, 23:17:43 PM
During a flight at the Baldock Aerotow meeting I lost the front canopy of my 1/3rd scale MDM-1 Fox.

I am now having to get a replacement from Saric Vacuform in Bristol but luckily my next door neighbour's son lives there and he will be able to collect it for me, saving the not inconsiderable postage costs.

So if anyone else who flies at Thurnham and needs a canopy from Saric Vacuform, then I can arrange to have it transported from Bristol free of charge for you.

Please PM me if you'd like to take up the offer - I'll be placing my order within the next week or so.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on July 10, 2014, 08:53:40 AM
Wot's the latest thinking on Firle today?  xcweather makes it look kind of okay but borderline ... so I'm feeling indecisive...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: terry white on July 10, 2014, 11:00:06 AM
Hi Eric, Regarding your lost canopy.Have you spoken to Saric Vac yet?Does Deric understand what you require,he is not a modeler and prefers to match a requirement rather then having the molds marked up as you would expect. When I was there a short while ago I noticed both the Fox canopy molds sitting on his shelving and if it is necessary I wouldn't mind speaking with him to help in his location of them.Remember he has hundreds passed on to him by Roly when he retired mostly unmarked. The front and rear canopy molds are very close to being the same, the small differences being at the front and rear of the molds. It may pay you to purchase both,1 to make sure you get the right one and two for colour match as they tend to yellow with age.Also reads that they could do with a complete revamp! Did you loose the frame as well? I have manufactured them from thick, quality, ply in the past on the bandsaw with excellent results.
I intend to be at Middle Wallop this weekend so I will see you Guys there.  Don't forget if I can be of any help just holler  Terry

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on July 10, 2014, 17:02:55 PM
Hi Terry,

Thanks for your posting and your advice.
I'll give you a call. I have both your home and mobile numbers.
Speak soon.

Cheers
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on July 10, 2014, 17:08:10 PM
Wot's the latest thinking on Firle today?  xcweather makes it look kind of okay but borderline ... so I'm feeling indecisive...
Firle Beacon - wet, wet, wet!!
Everything's a cue for a song.
In the words of the Beach Boys, "No surfing flying today".  :'(
The pub was good though, they sold Harvey's Sussex Ale - Nectar!  :af
Good company, good ale - can't be beat!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on July 10, 2014, 17:21:08 PM
That's the way to do it!

Some work things came up, so I gave up on thoughts of heading down to Firle today.

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on July 11, 2014, 11:55:12 AM
Completely out of context but on behalf of a friend, does anyone know of a reliable "Man with a Van" who could move half the contents of a house in Tunbridge Wells to a flat, same area?

Cheers

Simon
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on July 11, 2014, 16:02:38 PM
Try Rob McCann, who can be found at the Clothmakers Arms in Sutton Valence - 01622 842589
He's a reliable guy and he's a member of the local Rotary Club.

Now here's the airside link to get back into context . . .
He used to be a 'Man With A Van' and he still may have the van which has the appropriate signwriting on the side, but he now he drives around in a hearse shooting dead people's ashes up into the air in a rocket finishing with a starburst - yes he really does!!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on July 12, 2014, 18:35:12 PM
Sigh, you know when you just have one of those days?...

Weather forecast wasn't that great but I decided to go to the Middle Wallop aerotow anyway - got there and weather was great and lots of thermals.....

Unloaded the ASG and saw Ihad forgotten the box of incidence pins, outer joiners and all sorts of other important bits so iIdecided to call my Wife and if she would mind bringing them (only a 3 hour round trip!) . No problem she says and sets off only to be caught in horrendous traffic and has to give up half way there and come home.

I decided to come home too and had a straight easy run back of 90 mins and it was fine on the other carriageway too so the problem she encountered must have cleared up just as soon as she turned round...

So, do I try and go to MW tomorrow (the forecast is a bit iffy) - what other nasties have the fates got in store?

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: JohnP on July 12, 2014, 18:44:50 PM
Weather forecasts for this weekend have been changing considerably.  I had intended going to Duxford to the Flying Legends show today but watching today's forecast change hourly last night decided it wasn't worth going as there was a strong chance of rain - opinions just differed on when

Earlier this afternoon I decided I'd made the wrong decision as the weather (in Epsom at least) was bright and sunny.  But then we got soaked on Epsom Downs by a heavy shower at about 5:30, so who knows how the weather ended up at Duxford.  Arriving at home (a whole 2.5 miles away!) I find there was no rain at all when we were getting soaked.  Though I now hear thunder rumbling not far away...

Tomorrow's weather?  Anybody's guess I reckon!  $%&
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on July 12, 2014, 18:51:14 PM
I know John,something is majorly up with the weather forecasts - you have to look at 3 (wwhich are all different) and make your own guess.  I'm going back to seaweed!

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on July 13, 2014, 00:00:43 AM
What a bummer Simon, I ought to have been with you to check everything was aboard. Ah well, we've all done similar things at times. Sorry I missed your phone call, I now know it was you wanting me to bring your essentials to MW. I only noticed it when I went to make my breakdown call at about 9pm this evening. (see below)  :'(

My turn now.  ;)

After a full day of being good (getting brownie points  ;)) helping my wife with pruning, clearing beds and mowing lawns I eventually went for a fly at Thurnham at about 6pm.

The wind was SE - most of the day it was NW but I knew it would eventually change - when I got there it looked just about soarable over the trees so I thought I'd give my new acquisition from Paul its first airing. I had put a nice little 35 meg receiver in and everything was set up nicely at home, put the 35 meg module in the Tx and tossed the little Salome into the blue. It had gone about 10 yards straight and level when suddenly it veered right sharply into the grass. Guess what, I'd forgotten to screw in the 35 meg aerial, as I've been flying 2,4 and the aerial is completely out of sight so I hadn't twigged it - doh! In the rapid arrival, one of the wing bolts jumped out and went missing and guess what, no spares with me.

Plan B, fly the Silent Dream for 45 minutes - success in the wind which was nicely veering south at about 5 mph. Went back to the car and spotted the right size bolt holding down the tailplane of the SD so borrowed that for the Salome and had another excellent 45 minute flight in the now SSW breeze.

Getting dark so I went back to the car loaded up, turned on the ignition and all hell let loose. The engine management system went haywire and wouldn't let me do anything and I had visions of spending the night in the car. Luckily I eventually managed to get the electronic parking brake released and drove (limped) home at 35mph in 3rd, the highest gear I could get.

That was a close call Simon, it could have happened at MW and that would really have made your day! Best of luck with your decision making for MW.  :-\  I'm going to play safe tomorrow and go to the do at Barton Point (in my wife's car) and watch others flying.  :af


Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on July 13, 2014, 05:56:56 AM
I wouldn't have dreamed of asking you to drive over to MW for me Eric, I was just trying to confirm if my mobile was actually working as I had been calling my Wife for support for over an hour! (It transpires that he phone had run out of charge and she was walking the dog).
I'll let you know how thing turn out today! $%&

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on July 13, 2014, 08:57:43 AM
I would have been happy to help out in your hour of need - have a good one today!  :)

Eric
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on July 13, 2014, 09:34:20 AM
Mega thermic activity at MW yesterday, my second flight lasted well over an hour and I topped out at over 800m...need to check my vario recording to confirm absolute height. At one point it was so turbulent my ASG29 got flipped over and was inverted for a while, right at the edge of visible range. Buttock clenching moment!

Hope it's as good today if you go along Simon.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: terry white on July 13, 2014, 23:51:07 PM
Hi guys,

M.W. was good wasn't'nt it?

Learnt a good wheeze there,Phil H,was kind enough to let me fly his Duo Discus which due to the amazing lift was scraping the underside of a big black cloud."Terry" he called as I was sitting on the ground,"yes" said I as I came along side, "Can you see it to fly it" he said beckoning my gaze to the model now threatening the bottom of the cloud."Fly it I can't even see it said I"; but ill give it a go anyway.He was rather reluctant now to let me have a go of this beautiful model with more value then my house has,"Its at 1.3 kilometers high" he said and still going up."Got it" said I as he handed the tranny to me.Now heres the wheeze;for future fun,Wait until he has taken his eyes off the model and refocused on to something close to hand, turn the model through 90 degrees, pretend to stir the sticks like mad, and then casually say "Where abouts did you say it was Phil"? wait for the reaction!! Thanks Phil.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on July 14, 2014, 05:44:19 AM
The weather at Middle Wallop turned out to be really nice despite the predictions and I flew the ASG a lot.  That's the good news - the bad news is she just doesnt fly well off the flat and without airbrakes it is very difficult to get her to land in the same postcode twice in a row.
Still it was an enjoyable day and I am planning all sorts of hardware changes, starting with a new elevator/tailplane (the current one has almost no authority which is part of the reason landings are tricky!)

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on July 14, 2014, 08:10:39 AM
Did you try the ASG without reflex Si?
Are you going to make the tailplane larger, and lighter?!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on July 14, 2014, 08:45:53 AM
I flew with quite a bit of camber most of the time Mark.
I'm going to start by making the elevator bigger as it's the easiest thing to do and then potentially make a new tailplane.
John Greenfield flew her at MW and was a bit horrified at how difficult to fly she was I think!  It's total lack of stability makes it fun on the slope but is a nightmare for aerotowing.  I've just re-measured the horizontal dihedral and it is about 1.2 to 1.4 degrees, so a little less than the normal 1.5 degrees - it might also explain why she wants to turn right all the time and needs a lot of trim to stay level - however, I'm not 100% convinced about the accuracy of my "Wixxy" inclinometer so I'm not going to do anything drastic yet!

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on July 14, 2014, 21:37:20 PM
Thurnham Slope Report

My phone beeped and there was a text from Simon saying 'Fancy Thurnham today?' Too right I did - I skipped lunch, finished my day's work ultra quickly and was on the slope by 3:15 pm with my Silent Dream, the only trouble was I had forgotten the battery - this forgetfulness disease of Simon's is catching. ;)  Luckily I also had the Salome with me and it flew fine despite being at the very top end of the windspeeds it could cope with. Thermal lift was coming through in bucketfuls but so was the inevitable following sink which was quite disconcerting.

The flights of note for the afternoon were those made by David with his 'Hol's der Teufe'. It was very interesting helping with rigging the beast which took at least 30 minutes but it also gave us the chance to admire David's craftmanship at first hand. The end result was well worth the wait, it was now a beauty!

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Simon, with me as wingman, launched the first flight and that went well for five minutes or so looking magnificent in the air and then the sink came through. David turned toward the fence, slipped over it about 5 feet high and did a very fast straight but safe downwind landing - phew, down safely! 

After a wait of a few minutes and a lift proving flight by Simon, a second flight was decided upon and with Simon launching and Bob (good to see you back) as wingman this time and away went the beauty again. Much better height was gained this time and there was a similar length flight but then the sink followed through. David tried to get his lovely craft back over the fence at the left hand end of the slope but failed to make it arriving on the footpath with a noise that could be heard at the top of the hill. The port wing was broken and there was damage to the nose where 4 kilos of lead is stored! David has a positive outlook, even so the necessary repairs will be difficult but they will be made easier by the fact that the craft is built from spruce and ply and not grp and carbon! A sad event on a lovely sloping day.

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 As I left, the thermal activity ceased, the wind increased slightly and the resulting lift was smooth as silk for those just arriving for the evening shift.  :af

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on July 15, 2014, 14:40:36 PM
Am at Thurnham now and XC are telling porkies! Direction a bit west and not enough blow to inflate the lone pillow below me on the slope.
Fingers crossed it improves...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on July 15, 2014, 15:05:17 PM
Any wind yet Mark? The trees are moving approx 10 miles east south east of your present location! 
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on July 15, 2014, 15:30:35 PM
I think all the forecasters have gone on strike because none of them seem to bear any relation to the weather these days.....

Good luck Mark - don't be tempted to chuck anything important off if in doubt!

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on July 15, 2014, 16:21:28 PM
Mark, I'll be up there as soon as my wife returns with the car keys - she's gone to Bluewater with my son, left her car on the drive but taken the keys with her.!  :banghead:  >:(

Should be there by 5:15pm -  :xx
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on July 15, 2014, 16:35:10 PM
Lobbed the DG600 into a mega thermal and had an enjoyable 30 mins up in the lift...slope level it's all over the shop tho, from every direction and without much puff. Lots of convection cloud but I'm hoping the sea breeze will lose its battle soon!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on July 17, 2014, 08:39:13 AM
Last evening was perfect at Thurnham.
A force 3-4 mainly SSW warm breeze that Paul and I were able to enjoy with Ray observing.
An excellent evening's soaring, and we were surprised that no-one else arrived to enjoy the lovely conditions.
Flocks of birds having their evening meal of flying insects were showing us exactly where the lift was to keep our 4 metre scalies airborne for as long as we wished - no nasty sink around.  :)  Nice one!

. . . and thanks for the launches Paul.  :af
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on July 17, 2014, 08:45:09 AM
Oh rub it in why don't you!  Sorry I couldn't join you.....

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on July 17, 2014, 08:48:05 AM
 ;D ;D ;D   ;)

Looks like you're going to be spot on for Wrotham tomorrow though Si.

Have a good one!  :af
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on July 17, 2014, 11:13:17 AM
I've almost completely given up believing the forecasts now, but if it does come to pass I will definitely go to Wrotham tomorrow on my day off.  Trouble is, how can I launch the Big Fox on my own?...

I'm not sure who is still a member at Wrotham, but if anyone is around the company would be most welcome!

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on July 17, 2014, 11:25:34 AM
Oh rub it in why don't you!
After my previous day, sitting most if it out, I know what you mean!!  ;)

I might be able to make Wrotham tomorrow Si, will know by the end of play today. Won't be bringing anything bigger than 1/4 scale...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: SpringHead on July 17, 2014, 11:44:04 AM
I could meet you at Wrotham but I'm not a member


Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on July 17, 2014, 16:13:35 PM
I could meet you at Wrotham but I'm not a member
You'd be very welcome as a spectator Martin, but they are rather hot on non-members flying...

Mark, let's see how the forecast looks and I could pop up to the slope to get a real status to save you a wasted trip...

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on July 17, 2014, 16:38:41 PM
I'm still a member of Wrotham. Not sure we're going to get suitable wind for Wrotham, though.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on July 17, 2014, 17:40:53 PM
Not sure we're going to get suitable wind for Wrotham, though.

The afternoon looks like it'll have the least East in it, in fact directly South...that's according to Met Office and BBC weather. XC are saying different but they've been way off the mark recently!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: SpringHead on July 17, 2014, 17:53:35 PM
It's all a lie, ENE all over, 2-5 mph with gusts maxing out at a massive 8 mph
It may be different on the slopes???????

use these to get a real average Holly, Wrotham and Thurnham (sort of)#

http://www.halling-weather.co.uk/index.php (http://www.halling-weather.co.uk/index.php)
http://www.hollingbourneweather.co.uk/HOLLINGBOURNE_WEATHER/Live_Weather.html (http://www.hollingbourneweather.co.uk/HOLLINGBOURNE_WEATHER/Live_Weather.html)


Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on July 17, 2014, 20:58:41 PM
Here's another one for you to try. I've found it's quite good for live wind info.
http://bigsalty.com/en/live/wind/1/s/D1286/ (http://bigsalty.com/en/live/wind/1/s/D1286/)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on July 18, 2014, 08:58:06 AM
Big Salty also say around midday for a Southerly blow! I'll be there soon after....
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on July 18, 2014, 20:36:46 PM
Top afternoon at Wrotham today, 35'c with the breeze on the slope all afternoon...it was beginning to die down towards 4pm and lots of 'slermals' around to keep us on our toes when the sink came through.

Just as I was leaving a mum and her two boys (12/13'ish) turned up with some foamie gliders...some home made, they joined Invicta just so they could fly the slope. Good work lads!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on July 19, 2014, 08:50:25 AM
. . . and here's the lads enjoying themselves.  ;)

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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Allen the soarer on July 24, 2014, 20:51:37 PM
OMG Fully moulded 7m half scale fox on BMFA
Wish I had 5k and a quad bike to get it to the slope  :ev
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: SpringHead on July 24, 2014, 21:08:52 PM
Was going to post something similar but you beat me to it Allen
http://www.bmfaclassifieds.co.uk/detail.php?id=165176


Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on July 25, 2014, 06:24:34 AM
That Fox really is just TOO big!  Andy S has a fantastic hanger of models - Iwould really like his half scale ASW28 but its not for sale!

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on July 28, 2014, 22:00:02 PM
Five go mad in Dorset . . . no, that was last month!

Five go soaring in Sussex.

A lovely day's soaring in northeasterly winds was forecast for last Friday, so a contingent of the Thurnham Massive headed south for a day in the sun and ideal north easterly winds.
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Simon, Paul, Mark and I all had excellent first flights and landed to watch and assist late arrival Pete (well he had been sleeping in after working all night) have the first flight with his Valenta Salto recently acquired from Simon. As a safety measure Paul generously offered to carry out a lift proving flight with his ASW27 which was manfully launched by Mark with Pete, Simon and me watching.

http://youtu.be/n7deOKqn-0I (http://youtu.be/n7deOKqn-0I)

Paul piloting the ASW27, Pete getting ready to commit the Salto to the air but waiting for Paul's verdict on the lift conditions and Mark flexing his muscles with 4.5 metres of GRP and carbon speed machine.
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Oh dear . . . the lift seems to have died and Paul so starts his walk to the fence to see to the bottom of the slope!
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Clenched buttock time as the 27 sinks lower and lower towards the fields below.
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Phew, Paul skilfully works the tiniest amount of thermal lift from very low down and brings the 27 back to a safe altitude.  :D
However there's not enough lift for the Salto, so another day it will be for its first outing under Pete's guidance.
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Alas the wind continues to die and shift to the east, so that ended the day's flying for us.  :'(

Just then a familar figure hove into view, John P with his usual greeting, "Oh no, it's those Kent w*****s again!"  ;)
However, he got his come-uppance as just as he arrived, the wind completely died from the north east as the sea breeze kicked in . . . and then it started to rain, quite a downpour - play over for the day! . . . but we'll be back!!   :af
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on July 31, 2014, 08:27:06 AM
I think I'm going to sneak off to Thurnham this afternoon - any takers?

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on July 31, 2014, 08:54:25 AM
I think I'm going to sneak off to Thurnham this afternoon - any takers?

Si

gotta work :-(
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on July 31, 2014, 09:09:13 AM
I'll be there mid pm . . . and tomorrow!  :)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on July 31, 2014, 09:37:07 AM
gotta work :-(
Me too, but it's not going to stop me!

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on July 31, 2014, 21:41:04 PM
gotta work :-(

Ditto !
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on July 31, 2014, 22:08:02 PM
Sunday is looking promising...I'm gagging for some stick time.
Huge thermals here in France but alas no slopes nearby...not that it mattered as I was banned from taking any flying device with me!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on August 01, 2014, 07:55:51 AM
When are you back Mark?  Looks promising for Wrotham today....

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Bad Raven on August 01, 2014, 08:11:44 AM
Looks promising for Wrotham today....

Si

Might see you there   (Yes I do still exist!!   ;D )
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on August 01, 2014, 12:30:21 PM
I decided to carry on building rather than flying today...

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Bad Raven on August 01, 2014, 14:29:17 PM
Well, I did, and had the slope to myself and the hawks (and the sheep, but lets not go there).

Started with the Libelle and the Alula Mk1 and worked up as the wind lifted till I was whistling the Dynamic-S around.

Even gave my 60" Wild Thing an outing and that has't had wind under the wings for maybe five years!!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on August 01, 2014, 23:05:57 PM
Nice session at Thurnham today, and had a lot of airtime hooning about with my ASH26.
About 10+ flyers visited the slope during the 4 1/2 hours I was there. (Pete, Chas, Alan T, David, Ray, new-to-sloping Chris, + 4 or 5 others whose names I can't remember - sorry).
Thermally conditions from 2pm until about 4pm necessitating moving swiftly from one end of the slope to the other to keep clear of the sink, or just hang in there close to the fence line until thermals came through again. One paraglider there and I think he appreciated us showing him when thermals were incoming.
After about 4pm things settled down with a nice steady SSW giving perfect conditions with no sink, but just slightly too much wind for the paraglider pilot!

PS - Here's an ASH26 for sale, identical to mine and which is a great flier:
http://www.bmfaclassifieds.co.uk/detail.php?id=165834 (http://www.bmfaclassifieds.co.uk/detail.php?id=165834)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on August 01, 2014, 23:17:50 PM
When are you back Mark?  Looks promising for Wrotham today....

After nearly 14hrs traveling I'm back. Hope to fly Sunday...new radio to test!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on August 01, 2014, 23:30:04 PM
Looking forward to seeing your new bit of kit.  :af
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on August 04, 2014, 01:03:54 AM
An epic day at Thurnham. Simon reckoned they were the best conditions he'd ever experienced at our slope.

Cracking thermal and sink conditions were keeping us on our toes from about 10am until around 4pm when the sink disappeared and left just bouyant skies to be enjoyed by all.  :D

Simon launching Mark's ASH31 in beautiful conditions
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There was a good attendance by fliers from both north and south of the Thames who brought with them a very varied selection of flying machines.
We also had a real flying visit by one of our regular slopers, Mr Cowboy, in his Victa Airtourer although he kept well clear as he has seen Simon and Mark in action with their 7.2 and 6 metre aircraft!
There were no 'walks of shame', not even Ray, and everyone went home with undamaged models - great!  :)

The paraglider pilots didn't fare very well in the unstable thermic conditions which they said were just too unsafe for them to fly in as they could cause a canopy collapse, as happened earlier this week in Berkshire leading to a fatality.

Roll on the next good flying day.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on August 04, 2014, 07:26:29 AM
Yes it was really a lovely day - my only regret was that I chickened out of asking another Slope Babe candidate for a photo!
Mark and I had great fun doing "synchronised" aerobatics with our Swifts and managed to just about avoid hitting each other....

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on August 04, 2014, 10:25:07 AM
Yes it was really a lovely day


hurrrumph!  >:(
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on August 04, 2014, 10:26:07 AM

hurrrumph!  >:(
If it's any consolation we missed you a lot Paul!....

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on August 04, 2014, 13:47:52 PM
If it's any consolation we missed you a lot Paul!....

 :-*
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on August 04, 2014, 21:12:15 PM
I'm heading up to Wrotham tomorrow afternoon, will probably spend most of the time sorting out the radio again tho!!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on August 05, 2014, 06:42:37 AM
I will come and join you late afternoon Mark

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on August 05, 2014, 06:52:58 AM
If there's a hint of West in it I'll head to Thurnham...XC Weather is all over the place again!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on August 05, 2014, 08:25:30 AM
Working today so it will be a late afternoon Thurnham arrival for me.  :)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Weds on August 05, 2014, 09:01:58 AM
Afternoon at Thurnham for me...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: RobtArm on August 05, 2014, 12:04:47 PM
Met Office app has SSW for Maidstone until 8pm, then S

XC Weather has SW till 7pm then S

Headcorn airfield actual is SSW 13 mph at 11:30
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on August 05, 2014, 21:12:51 PM
Well, I was in Brighton for work today and the wind seemed West.  What site did you end up flying at today?

If I had been certain it would be South today, I was thinking of taking time off and flying at Wrotham ... but I lost faith that it actually would be South ...

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on August 05, 2014, 21:51:34 PM
Sorry to tell you this Gary but Wrotham was the most awesome it has ever been this afternoon and I was all on my own!  Booming lift and hardly any sink - I could have flown the Big Fox or ASG easily, but Ihad no one to launch them!

II've had a very lucky  couple of days

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on August 05, 2014, 22:28:44 PM
Great to hear Wrotham can be that good ... one day my visit and those conditions will coincide ...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on August 07, 2014, 21:19:32 PM
Some of you may have heard me raving on about 'Sticky Stuff Remover' which is excellent for getting rid of adhesive label glue, grease and general muckiness on our models.

It has been hard to obtain although it is available on online for at least £5 per 250ml plus postage, but the good news is that Aldi have put it on sale today at £2.69 per 250 ml, a cracking price, it was £2.99 previously - get some before they sell out, you won't regret it.

https://www.aldi.co.uk/en/specialbuys/thursday-7th-august/product-detail/ps/p/sticky-stuff-remover-1/ (https://www.aldi.co.uk/en/specialbuys/thursday-7th-august/product-detail/ps/p/sticky-stuff-remover-1/)

I usually make up a little pad from a couple of sheets of loo paper and pour a small amount on and then get to work, It's amazing how much dirt and crud comes off whatever you are cleaning.
As usual it's best to try it out on an area of the item being cleaned where it's not noticeable should it have an effect.
I have found that it works well on most plastics, including fibreglass fuselages and wings - plastic film covered wings come up a treat. The only surfaces that I have had it affect are some painted areas and then only when I've rubbed really hard. I've just cleaned my transmitter, laptop, phones and tablet and they are all gleaming now!  :)

Enjoy!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on August 07, 2014, 21:36:45 PM
Sounds good. I had one that smelled of oranges and was good. But I can't remember where I got it from. Then I got one from that Claus Olson store and it stinks really badly of industrial solvent and it is too heavy duty, it wrecks things. What does the Aldi one smell like?

(I don't know of any Aldi's in my neck of the woods, although I read they have just overtaken Waitrose in terms of UK market size so there must be  fair few of them around.)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on August 07, 2014, 22:46:46 PM
Canopies come up a treat with it too...will be buying some more, thanks for the heads up Eric.

Saturday looking good for Thurnham, "Ex" hurricane Bertha coming in on Sunday which looks a washout but Monday could be extremely breezy! Kath back at work though and I'm on parenting duties again...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on August 08, 2014, 10:12:11 AM
I hope to make it on Saturday too.

Gary, Mr Smack gave me some Arecal 'Topclean' many moons ago. It's an industrial spray cleaner with a lovely citrus aroma...maybe the same stuff you had?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on August 08, 2014, 16:44:35 PM
I'm pleased it's worked for you Mark - good to have some feedback.

The ingredients list on the bottle says that it contains' aliphatic compunds >30% BHT' whatever than means. The last time i did any chemistry was back in the 70s and any knowledge of that subject disappeared long ago. Yes, it does have a citrus type aroma so it's most probably the same active ingredient.

Here's the Aldi store locator - https://www.aldi.co.uk/en/about-aldi/useful-information/store-locator/ (https://www.aldi.co.uk/en/about-aldi/useful-information/store-locator/) - and it shows there being one in Selsdon, but if you can't get there Gary, I can pop down to my local one about two miles away and raid their stock for you. They had about 60 bottles left when I was in there yesterday evening.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on August 08, 2014, 20:40:55 PM
Thanks for the Aldi link, Eric, I'll pop down to the Selsdon branch.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on August 09, 2014, 07:51:34 AM
should be up on the hill by 12ish with any luck......
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Weds on August 09, 2014, 08:26:10 AM
should be up on the hill by 12ish with any luck......

Me too, might be a bit earlier... :)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on August 09, 2014, 08:47:44 AM
Me too (and the earlier bit).  I'll bring the ASG just in case conditions are good enough...

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on August 09, 2014, 09:58:06 AM
Just after 11am for me.
New Rx for my biggie waiting at Post Office...went to collect, but due to "restructuring" (privatization) only two people working on the counter and a line of people who had been waiting for 45 mins. Grrr!
Still got a few things to sort out on the radio before I commit to the big one tho...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on August 09, 2014, 22:30:00 PM
Good day today wasn't it?!

Only marred by me snapping off the switch on my new radio...and the damn thing is surface mounted onto a pcb. Replaceable, but it's stupid a manufacturer over-complicating something which is prone to damage...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on August 10, 2014, 07:11:44 AM
Yes a great classic day Mark with lots of flying good company etc.
Shame about your switch, that does seem to be a silly design - do you have to buy the switch and PCBcombo or can it be repaired?
I was mildly encouraged by the way the ASG flew in the challenging conditions and I'm considering making a few mods as a result.

Did anyone take any pictures or video?

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: RobtArm on August 10, 2014, 11:05:49 AM
Thoroughly good day yesterday. Must get a folding seat, ran out of 'standing around' stamina before the flask of tea was finished.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on August 10, 2014, 11:24:23 AM
I agree, a great day yesterday, marred only by me letting the WT get away from me on launch and crashing into Si when he was flying - sorry Simon. :embarassed:

I also had an incident when doing a low slow overshoot with my ASH26 and a gust lifted a wing dropping the other one which caught in the grass resulting in a rapid inverted landing.  :o  Luckily the '26 survived with no damage whatsoever, phew!

We were entertained by Simon and Mark, that pair of 'hoonigans', (a new word I've just made up), peforming 'syncronised' aerobatics with some very close comings together - great fun for them . . . and the spectators!

Sorry Si, but I don't have any pictures or video as my phone battery was flat and I seemed to be doing lots of flying as well.

Seating arrangements were fun also with everyone playing musical chairs, I forgot to put mine in my wife's car which I borrowed while mine was out of action. Pete seems to have one which is coveted by many especially as it has a headrest which is great for doing long high altitude flights.
I quite covet Bob's chair, so I splashed out and ordered one of the below yesterday evening, I hope I get a chance to sit in it when it's set up on the slope. ;)

http://www.garden4less.co.uk/coleman-sling-chair-green.asp (http://www.garden4less.co.uk/coleman-sling-chair-green.asp)

PS - RobtArm, don't forget to get some tent pegs as well to stop the chair blowing over in the wind.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on August 10, 2014, 13:46:08 PM
Wow, that is quite a chair!  (You obviously plan to be doing a lot of sitting!)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on August 10, 2014, 17:16:05 PM
I'm taking a leaf out of Simon's book as he likes sitting whilst he's flying and I might just as well make myself comfy while I'm at it.  :)
Bob tells me he has six of these - double wow!

The only trouble is now that everyone's starting to bring chairs and they are all lined up in a row, it's starting to look a bit like an old folks outing to the slope - I wish I had taken a photo of yesterdays folding chair deployment, the local retirement home would have been proud of us.  ;D

I also wanted a comfy chair for when I'm camping at the Nats in a couple of weeks time.
I've just acquired a much larger tent so I need some more furniture to put into it. I was getting back ache from being bent double in my son's very low tent. I was even having to do the cooking sitting down.

The third reason is that my wife hates the normal upright folding chairs, so it will stop her complaining when we go to other outdoor events. :)  I'll stick with the old upright version when we go to outdoor social events as it has that most important facility, a beer can holder!  :af

PS - Did you manage to get some Sticky Stuff Remover Gary - they've completely sold out in Sittingbourne.  :'(  About 80 bottles of it went on Friday.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on August 10, 2014, 17:40:39 PM
If any one does get the sticky stuff remover would you mind getting me a couple of bottles while you're at it please?  Eric was going to get me some but it sounds like Kent is empty!

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: SpringHead on August 10, 2014, 18:05:11 PM
Olive oil can work in some instances Simon or if you want to go hardcore use the Misses nail varnish remover or you could also try car polish
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on August 11, 2014, 10:02:55 AM
Yes I've used most things thanks Martin (not olive oil though!) but this is supposed to be a wonder product so I wanted to try it.

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on August 11, 2014, 12:15:38 PM
I have in my possesion three spare bottles of sticky stuff remover, Simon...one is for you, any takers for the other two?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Weds on August 11, 2014, 14:28:38 PM
I'll take one Mark...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on August 11, 2014, 17:21:46 PM
One still up for grabs...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on August 11, 2014, 22:35:56 PM
If any one does get the sticky stuff remover would you mind getting me a couple of bottles while you're at it please?  Eric was going to get me some but it sounds like Kent is empty!
Si

I've got the two bottles you asked me to get for you Simon, they had plenty left in Canterbury - Sittingbourne people must be quite sticky!

Cheers, Eric
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on August 12, 2014, 07:05:43 AM
Oh my...we're all awash with the stuff now!!

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on August 12, 2014, 08:27:09 AM
I'll still have one of yours if you want Mark, but if anyone else wants it let them have it - I would guess 2 bottles will be enough for me even though I am particularly sticky!

Hmm, still no sign of the pilot I bought and no response to emails....

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: SpringHead on August 12, 2014, 08:34:15 AM
Glider selfie(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/08/12/yje7u3ub.jpg)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Rob Thomson on August 12, 2014, 11:22:42 AM
Don't want to drop the phone!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: RobtArm on August 12, 2014, 15:07:17 PM
I think I can see a wrist strap, so he is not as reckless as he seems!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: SpringHead on August 12, 2014, 16:40:07 PM
He is using a selfie stuck I think
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on August 13, 2014, 21:48:59 PM
An excellent session at Thurnham this afternoon with Mark, John and a few others. Charlie left as I arrived, did I say something untoward?  ;)

I had the the longest flight I've had so far with the ASH26, just under 40 minutes. :) Masses of lift and nearly specking out at times, there seemed to be lift wherever I went. If there was sink it was very easy to get away from it and then find plenty of bouyancy elsewhere. I also had a close encounter with the Air Ambulance as it came in to land in the field below to attend to people injured in an RTA on the Pilgrims Way.

As the forecast rain front approached the lift very suddenly died and I had to make a rapid but smooth downwind emergency landing, sneaking safely in over the fence . . . just!

Here endeth the afternoon's flying for me as I had to leave to pick up the Glidermobile which had been poorly, but is now back in working condition. The cause, a corroded fuse; simples you may say but there are lots and lots of fuses in my car. Luckily I know a man who knows all about quirky Citroens and he found the right one.  :)

I left leaving Mark in the cowshed with all his models, waiting hopefully for the rain to clear.  :'(


PS - Here's another useful weather website as used by professionals in the shipping industry:
http://www.yr.no/place/United_Kingdom/England/Thurnham~7295885/hour_by_hour.html (http://www.yr.no/place/United_Kingdom/England/Thurnham~7295885/hour_by_hour.html)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Weds on August 13, 2014, 22:55:19 PM
I turned up just as Mark was leaving around 6ish, winds were a bit westerly but i flew my mini alex for a short while till the wind dropped off and it started raining..

I saw a couple of police cars parked along the Pilgrims Way and a hole in the hedge presumably from the RTA

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on August 14, 2014, 02:36:31 AM
You managed to get the one part of the day when it was decent Eric, it had been pretty rubbish up until then! Saying that though, as soon as I got above the slope lift earlier in the day I also managed a good one covering all points of the compass...however after some acro's I hit killer sink and landed out. Thurnham is a cruel mistress sometimes!!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on August 14, 2014, 11:56:20 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPl8V_21E-8
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on August 17, 2014, 09:40:15 AM
Does Thurnham work when the wind is directly from the west?

Was just about to go there when I saw that the forecast had gone from SW to W.

Please help me, as I don't know whether to go or not.

Jef
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: SpringHead on August 17, 2014, 10:22:20 AM
Directly West, you can get a little slope lift but ideally you need the wind SWW
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Weds on August 17, 2014, 20:53:57 PM
Good day at Thurnham today apart from the rain... A few of us got a bit soaked when we didn't make the cow shed in time and spent the rest of the day in soggy jeans...

We had a flypast by a Eurofighter Typhoon (twice) and the Red Arrows

Some of the boys went home but me and Mark stayed on and the sun came out and the wind got up and the lift got better until it swung round to the northwest...

Paul found a new friend
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Flypast by the Red Arrows
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Mark's big one..
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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on August 17, 2014, 21:04:35 PM
I went to the Red Bull Air Race at Ascot today, and the Red Arrows did a fly-past there are well. I believe they also did the Eastbourne airshow today. They get around...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on August 19, 2014, 15:11:36 PM
After a wait of what seemed like a lifetime, guess who turned up today!

(http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee324/swarrans/P1010744_zps401fa9b7.jpg) (http://s532.photobucket.com/user/swarrans/media/P1010744_zps401fa9b7.jpg.html)

(http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee324/swarrans/P1010743_zpsa6f55a74.jpg) (http://s532.photobucket.com/user/swarrans/media/P1010743_zpsa6f55a74.jpg.html)

(http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee324/swarrans/P1010742_zps6a2a01f8.jpg) (http://s532.photobucket.com/user/swarrans/media/P1010742_zps6a2a01f8.jpg.html)

He is a little small for the glider to be honest, but I've made the seat a bit taller to disguise it...

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on August 19, 2014, 21:07:06 PM
Is he going to age, while you maintain your boyish looks Simon?
 :ev
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on August 20, 2014, 08:17:45 AM
Is he going to age, while you maintain your boyish looks Simon?
 :ev
Its worth a try - I'll stick him in the loft!  Actually I think I've missed that particular boat...😰

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on August 20, 2014, 08:36:34 AM
After a wait of what seemed like a lifetime, guess who turned up today!

He is a little small for the glider to be honest, but I've made the seat a bit taller to disguise it...

Si

That's great news Simon! Perhaps you could make him a scale 'booster' for the seat?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on August 20, 2014, 09:38:06 AM
That's great news Simon! Perhaps you could make him a scale 'booster' for the seat?


Steroids? For the pilot, not Simon....
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on August 20, 2014, 11:08:50 AM
Back to Sunday at Thurnham with a couple of photos.
Sorry about the quality but my phone decided to switch itself from 1600x1200 to 640x480 resolution without telling me!  >:(

Whilst hoisting Simon's Big Fox ready for launch, Paul realises that he should have had three Shreaded Wheats for breakfast rather than his normal one!  :'(
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As a result a new launch technique has evolved for getting 1/3rd scale Purbeck Foxes into the air - launch, touch and go, kiss a fence post and you're away!  ;)
Can't wait to try it with my Arctic Fox!   :xx
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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on August 21, 2014, 09:02:58 AM
Anyone who touches a fence post and manages to keep flying is a hero I reckon!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on August 21, 2014, 11:10:20 AM
Anyone who touches a fence post and manages to keep flying is a hero I reckon!
It was a little close for comfort Gary!....
We all heard it skimming through the long grass just in front of the fence and then just limp over it - more by luck than judgement probably.

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Leebert on August 21, 2014, 20:26:29 PM
Hi all,
Long time no fly!
Anyone out for a cheeky Friday fly tomorrow? Possibly Thurnham...

Cheers,
Lee
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on August 21, 2014, 21:01:55 PM
I'm not sure the wind direction will be flyable will it Leebert?

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Leebert on August 21, 2014, 21:16:42 PM
Not sure Simon. XCweather shows a Westerly for most of the day which I thought was okay but It's been a while and I'm a touch rusty on all things slope...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on August 22, 2014, 07:04:11 AM
Westerly should be OK- when iI looked Ithought iI thought I saw a bit of north creep in
I might pop up at some point

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Leebert on August 22, 2014, 07:45:01 AM
I think you're right Simon. Looks like I won't be flying at Thurnham today :(
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on August 26, 2014, 12:54:41 PM
ohhh, I like this......

http://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-2.36,54.79,1500 (http://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-2.36,54.79,1500)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: SpringHead on August 26, 2014, 13:31:17 PM
Nice, so do I
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on August 26, 2014, 13:45:38 PM
Nice, so do I

Had a chance to fly the Alpina yet Martin?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: SpringHead on August 26, 2014, 13:50:29 PM
No not yet Paul, I haven't been to a slope for so long, I'm going cold turkey.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on August 26, 2014, 15:40:25 PM
ohhh, I like this......

[url]http://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-2.36,54.79,1500[/url] ([url]http://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-2.36,54.79,1500[/url])


Get back to work and stop wasting time!  Oh dear, I fear I am doing the same thing now....

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on August 26, 2014, 15:51:40 PM
Get back to work and stop wasting time!  Oh dear, I fear I am doing the same thing now....

Si

Lol!.....finding time to work in and around my very important procrastination is one of my major life challenges atm!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Hairyflier on August 26, 2014, 16:16:35 PM
Some of you guy's may remember my son Craig ripping up the slope at Thurnham a few years ago with his 'Vintage' Mijet and Phase 6. Well he's now settled down under and has started a craze with his simple O/D all sheet model the Little Ripper. So far he has supplied eight of them to club mates with more on the way and they are planning a pylon race this weekend if the wind plays ball.
http://kdmas.com.au/flagallery/photo-gallery-2/ (http://kdmas.com.au/flagallery/photo-gallery-2/)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on August 26, 2014, 16:25:17 PM
Are the wings carved to shape from solid balsa Hairy? Makes for a solid model if so!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Hairyflier on August 26, 2014, 18:06:38 PM
Are the wings carved to shape from solid balsa Hairy? Makes for a solid model if so!
Wings are 3/8" sheet with a 3/8"" square spruce spar.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on August 26, 2014, 21:27:20 PM
Just back from a good weekend at the BMFA Nats in Lincolnshire and here are a few photos you may find interesting. Once again the camera in my phone changed resolution part way through without telling me, so sorry about the quality of some of the photos.

Luckily the weather held throughout the weekend apart from a five minute shower on Saturday and one on Monday morning before light drizzle set it at 12 noon, just an hour before the final competitions ended.


General view of the showline.
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The models get bigger each year - the 1/2 scale Hanriot HD1 spans 5.8 metres and weighs 80 kg - very impressive in flight and on the ground.
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A trio of powered Parkzone Red Bull Blaniks which I didn't see fly, but I did see the very impressive autogyro in the background, which was from Italy, in the air. It rendered the not very well informed commentator speechless, and when he did eventally speak said," Do you actually call it an aircraft?" - where do they get these guys from?
This beautifully constructed autogyro has a 7kilowatt motor and so flies very fast and would set you back £4,500 if you wanted one!
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Quite a few people were seen relaxing in their Vango Del Mar folding chairs - I hope you enjoy yours Simon.
This is a view of the Scale flightline.
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Top-of-the-Range pylon racers capable of 200mph - four racing at once is quite spectacular.
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Bob Ryan, normally seen on the slope with his exotic mouldies, had a great time with his free flight 'Playboy' powered by a Boddo Mills 75 - the evening free flight sessions were blessed with calm, if slightly chilly conditions - excellent fun with over 500 people watching a continual swarm of free flight models being launched into the calm evening air as the sun set.
Spectators had to be on their toes, ducking and diving to avoid being struck by wayward models - great fun.
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Mark Tilbury of Model World fame with his dad Mervyn and their 'Popsie' foursome - 1/2 size, original 1 to 1 size, 1 1/2 times size and twice size powered by tiny electric motor, 1.5 cc diesel, AM 2.5 diesel and OS 40 respectively, all free flight.
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Mr YT International with two of his Tailored Pilots, one 1/4 scale and the other 1/3.5 scale. A nice guy with whom I had a very pleasant 15 minute chat whilst at the amazing 7:30am swapmeet.
http://www.ytinternational.co.uk/tailored_pilots/tailored_pilots_home.html (http://www.ytinternational.co.uk/tailored_pilots/tailored_pilots_home.html)
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The three middle figures are 1/4 scale, 1/3.5 scale and 1/3 scale.
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A challenger for David's title of 'most innovative camera viewfinder'.
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An excellent long weekend made much more comfortable for me as I now have a large 2.2 metre high, 4 berth tent, rather than the 1 metre high, 2 berth tent that I have borrowed from my son in previous years - thankfully no backache this time!
 
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on August 26, 2014, 21:44:39 PM
How many gliders did you buy Eric?!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on August 26, 2014, 22:02:22 PM
Don't remind me Mark. :banghead:

I stupidly missed buying a beautifulfully equipped 4.5 metre Discus 2 glider by walking away to think about it - I'm still seriously kicking myself for missing it.  :'( 
Mr YT told me that he also did the same and missed buying it as well.

Interestingly I met the proprietor of PB Models who did a similar thing and missed buying the Arctic Fox at Blackbushe and when I told him that I owned it he said, "I hate you!"  ;D
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Rob Thomson on August 27, 2014, 21:14:52 PM
Myself and Collin from TVSF popped down to Hindover hill (over under hill) today.

Left was superb!

Its a real gem of a slope for easterly's.

Rob
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on August 28, 2014, 07:53:21 AM

Left was superb!

Its a real gem of a slope for easterly's.

Rob

What was the "right" like Rob?      I am just SO funny!...


Anyway,   it's looking great for Thurnham tomorrow (Friday) any takers?!

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on August 28, 2014, 08:06:12 AM
What was the "right" like Rob?      I am just SO funny!...


Anyway,   it's looking great for Thurnham tomorrow (Friday) any takers?!

Si

Got a meeting in the afternoon dangnabbit!  >:(
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on August 28, 2014, 08:55:08 AM
Anyway,   it's looking great for Thurnham tomorrow (Friday) any takers?!

Me hopefully!
And Saturday for a few hours too...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on August 28, 2014, 09:00:00 AM
Got a meeting in the afternoon dangnabbit!  >:(

A little sneaky morning action?  I suspect Mark and I (and maybe Pete?) will be up there most of the day

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on August 28, 2014, 09:43:58 AM
Good to hear you flew Hindover Hill, Rob. Landing is a challenge, though, huh?  Did you land down the bottom?

I noticed the forecast is looking good for Thurnham Friday ... I'm not sure I can get away from work, but maybe ...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on August 28, 2014, 10:13:46 AM
A little sneaky morning action?  I suspect Mark and I (and maybe Pete?) will be up there most of the day

Si

Sounds like a sneaky plan! should be able to manage a few hours around late morning / early afternoon !
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Allen the soarer on August 28, 2014, 12:02:35 PM
Ashdown XC this Sunday
Anyone coming ?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Hairyflier on August 28, 2014, 14:58:42 PM
Anyone likely to be at Thurnham tomorrow morning, forecast looks good and I have a couple of new toy's I've been aero towing and would like to try on the hill.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on August 28, 2014, 16:40:40 PM
Judging by the earlier posts there'll be some of the usual suspects up there Hairy.

Allen I can't make Sunday I'm afraid...hope you have a good comp. I was wondering if next year it would be worth
doing it as part of your summer BBQ? We've got a bit of a ridge run for most wind directions, we could keep it all very low key and throw in a few fun tasks along the way....
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on August 28, 2014, 17:38:20 PM
A little sneaky morning action?  I suspect Mark and I (and maybe Pete?) will be up there most of the day
Si

. . . and me!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on August 28, 2014, 18:37:40 PM
. . . and me!

Don't forget your Arctic Fox Eric - we need to get those Big Foxes up together again!

Anyone likely to be at Thurnham tomorrow morning, forecast looks good and I have a couple of new toy's I've been aero towing and would like to try on the hill.

I think I can safely say that some of the finest individuals around will be at Thurnham tomorrow.  I'll be coming too!

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: jonniebgood on August 28, 2014, 18:47:52 PM
Anyway,   it's looking great for Thurnham tomorrow (Friday) any takers?!

Si..............................................

I'll bring my usual L plates. ;D
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on August 28, 2014, 20:55:32 PM
Don't forget your Arctic Fox Eric - we need to get those Big Foxes up together again!
Si

I'll be along after lunch and the rain as I have a couple of jobs to do, like a quick site visit and emptying the Glidermobile after my trip to the Nats. http://www.yr.no/place/United_Kingdom/England/Thurnham~7295885/hour_by_hour.html (http://www.yr.no/place/United_Kingdom/England/Thurnham~7295885/hour_by_hour.html)
Note - To convert metres per second to miles per hour, multiply by 2.25.

Unfortunately I still haven't finished the temporary canopy for the Arctic Fox, I was going to do it last weekend but I was away up North for four days.
Sorry, Si, I'll try to get it finished this weekend..

I'll bring my usual L plates. ;D

Everyone else bring their hard hats!  ;)
Only joking John - see you tomorrow.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: jonniebgood on August 29, 2014, 09:41:58 AM
Boom, Boom,  :af
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Weds on August 29, 2014, 15:33:07 PM
Model or full size(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/08/29/afac42c9fc8926e37d63f0c4a0b5e017.jpg)

We had a load of full size fly over thurnham today but this one came along in front of the slope below the horizon.. Lucky there was one one model in the air..
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Rob Thomson on August 29, 2014, 16:50:22 PM
Good to hear you flew Hindover Hill, Rob. Landing is a challenge, though, huh?  Did you land down the bottom?

I noticed the forecast is looking good for Thurnham Friday ... I'm not sure I can get away from work, but maybe ...

I didn't find it too much of an issue.     Certainly  I have had worse!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on August 30, 2014, 18:56:25 PM
Model or full size([url]http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/08/29/afac42c9fc8926e37d63f0c4a0b5e017.jpg[/url])

We had a load of full size fly over thurnham today but this one came along in front of the slope below the horizon.. Lucky there was one one model in the air..


Did it land out Pete? Must have been a nerve wracking ride back to Challock if not!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Weds on August 30, 2014, 19:16:15 PM
Did it land out Pete? Must have been a nerve wracking ride back to Challock if not!

No he managed to hug the contours of the ridge and disappeared round the corner, we think he got some lift and got away, but i bet it was a brown trouser moment, he was running out of options after going to the far right past us as there is very little space to land out.. I suspect he could have used the fields in front of us... Certainly made entertaining viewing, just wished i got the camera out sooner as he crossed in front of us..
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Allen the soarer on August 30, 2014, 20:47:13 PM
Ashdown Forst XC tomorrow 9.30  :af
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Hairyflier on August 31, 2014, 07:47:58 AM
Sadly Friday was not a good day for me, broke the Habicht when the lift died down and as a bonus it took me over an hour to get through the Dartford Tunnel on the way home. Still I had one good flight early morning with my Discus and I always enjoy being on the hill, just a shame it's so far away.
Craig and the gang down under had a great day today with the little rippers, all built by himself in three weeks. :af
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Rob Thomson on August 31, 2014, 10:21:43 AM
Ashdown Forst XC tomorrow 9.30  :af
What?

And I only find out now!

Rob
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Allen the soarer on August 31, 2014, 19:31:04 PM
Was the best conditions ever too.

I had to dive out of the clouds at one point  :af
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on August 31, 2014, 21:49:08 PM
Was the best conditions ever too.

I had to dive out of the clouds at one point  :af

I remember Peter Clarke having to do the same, with his Xantia (REF) model, at an Ashdown Forest X-C event that I attended in the nineties.

Jef
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Rob Thomson on September 01, 2014, 16:22:32 PM
Was the best conditions ever too.

I had to dive out of the clouds at one point  :af
That's just upsetting.  I was hoping to attend.

On the plus side.  I finally got started on this beast..

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on September 02, 2014, 07:58:20 AM
Nice coverage of the Purbeck Convention by Chris Williams in "Flying Scale Models" magazine. Here's a group shot and a pic of my Duo Discus. (I think the Discus photo features because Chris asked for gliders to fly low so he could get shots with ground behind the model, and I was the only one foolhardy enough to do it.) If you're in the group shot you should buy a copy I reckon!


Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on September 02, 2014, 12:53:56 PM
I 've just seen that coverage also features in Quiet & Elec Flight Intl with photos of me and Paul:

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I think Paul's launch technique is being called into question!  I know exactly what this is - there was a deep ditch on the launching side of the fence, and it caused the weirdest turbulence: sometimes if you threw a plane straight forwards it reared up alarmingly. Happened to me too. Looked for all the world like a beginner throwing a plane upwards into a stall.

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on September 02, 2014, 13:07:33 PM
Oh gawd! I think I'm losing my launch mojo!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on September 02, 2014, 14:16:17 PM
I had full up elevator just for the camera… ;)

You're right though Gary, it was a horrible launching spot with all sorts of nastiness to catch out the unaware.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on September 02, 2014, 15:09:11 PM
Oh gawd! I think I'm losing my launch mojo!

I'm saying nothing!   :ev


BTW, I have sorted out my pilot dilemmas (I KNOW you are all really interested!).  I have made my 1/4 scale pilot bigger by adding foam shoulder pads and extending/fattening the legs - the baggy shirt and trousers easily covered the now more beefy torso and he looks really good.


Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on September 02, 2014, 15:33:12 PM
I'm saying nothing!   :ev


Lol.....I can only put it down to declining right wrist muscle definition over the past 18 months or so.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on September 02, 2014, 16:19:26 PM
Simon, how have you made his head bigger?

Fri/Sat…looking good for Bo Peep action. Windspeed on Fri not so good as Sat but looking warmer and sunnier…although that may mean lift killing sea breezes….
Who's up for it?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on September 02, 2014, 16:23:23 PM
Lol.....I can only put it down to declining right wrist muscle definition over the past 18 months or so.

I knew it would be a woman's fault!

Simon, how have you made his head bigger?

Fri/Sat…looking good for Bo Peep action. Windspeed on Fri not so good as Sat but looking warmer and sunnier…although that may mean lift killing sea breezes….
Who's up for it?

The head was actually perfect for the larger scale Mark - and actually the glider is 1:3.75 not 1:3.5 so quite close to quarter scale anyway.  The body did look too small though but now looks great.

Yes, I'm up for Bopeep - whichever day looks the best closer to the event.  Surely we can't have a South Downs failure 3 times in a row???

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on September 02, 2014, 22:16:53 PM
Now the forecast is saying it's going to be virtually windstill on fri/sat!

Grrrr ... this has got to be the worst run of poor flying weather since ... well, since last time.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on September 03, 2014, 08:39:20 AM
Surely we can't have a South Downs failure 3 times in a row???


It's looking surer by the day  :'(
Title: Futaba 9C Tx
Post by: Davetronic on September 03, 2014, 16:11:23 PM
Had a strange experience recently. My Futaba 9C transmitter with FrSky module got wet. Next time I used it, LCD screen was totally black. Naturally, not being afraid of electronics but not that bright obviously, I pulled it all apart but found no water or any other problem. Eventually, after talking to a helpful guy at Futaba service centre, I found that, although not mentioned in any manual, the screen contrast can be adjusted by holding down the Mode button and turning the dial. So this is what must have happened.
However, I then found the screen was partly scrambled and what was readable was in German.  After I lot of Googling, I found that if you turn on the transmitter with the Mode and End buttons pressed, you can access the service menu. I fumbled around and eventually changed the language back to English.
Then I found my receiver would not bind, which eventually was found to be due to the model I was trying to use had disappeared from the software and the default model was set to PCM not be PPM as required by FRsky.
The good/bad news is that meantime, I ordered a Taranis thinking all was lost, just before I got all this working again – so I guess the much loved 9C will now have to go!
Cheers
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Rob Thomson on September 03, 2014, 18:04:21 PM
Lol.  Good.upgrade :)

I had some fun today hacking up my daughters high school musical doll!

Much better...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on September 03, 2014, 20:16:27 PM
What model is that Rob?  It's looking good ...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on September 04, 2014, 10:24:16 AM
Still looking pretty light for Fri/Sat South Downs action, now Fri is looking slightly better so I might chance it and get there for 10'ish.
Could be Firle rather than Bo Peep though...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on September 04, 2014, 16:08:14 PM
Sorry guys, but I can't make it tomorrow as I am covering the work of a colleague who is on holiday, nor the weekend as my sister is getting married on Saturday and I will most probably be over the limit on Sunday.  :D :af
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Weds on September 04, 2014, 16:28:55 PM
I cant do Friday or Saturday as i'm back to work   :'(
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Rob Thomson on September 04, 2014, 18:32:48 PM
What model is that Rob?  It's looking good ...

ASW-28 (3 meter)

Remember a few months back I posted that I made had given me the kit.   It is around 10 years old.

Fully moulded, hollow wings etc..   Must have cost a bomb 10 years back!

The kit came with the air brakes, even an aero tow hook and retracts!

I have pulled out the retract system.  Unfortunately the plastic system had gone brittle over the years.  It was not working well.  I would certainly be interested in picking up a system for a 3m model?

I am happy all round.  Hopefully it will get its first flight next week.
Title: Taranis
Post by: Davetronic on September 05, 2014, 09:45:20 AM
Just begun playing with my new Taranis Tx/Rx, no real manual included as I was aware. I was advised to check out the Open9x Forum but can't find it. Can anybody advise it's web address, or any other source of a manual?
Cheers
Title: Re: Taranis
Post by: Hairyflier on September 05, 2014, 12:15:45 PM
Just begun playing with my new Taranis Tx/Rx, no real manual included as I was aware. I was advised to check out the Open9x Forum but can't find it. Can anybody advise it's web address, or any other source of a manual?
Cheers
Here's a good starting point. There is loads of help out there not only on this Forum but others too. I'm sure you will love it once you get to know your way around.
http://www.frsky-rc.com/download/view.php?sort=&down=108&file=Instruction%20Manual%20for%20Taranis%20X9D (http://www.frsky-rc.com/download/view.php?sort=&down=108&file=Instruction%20Manual%20for%20Taranis%20X9D)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Rob Thomson on September 05, 2014, 17:35:38 PM
Check open-tx.org.

Forum you want is:  OpenRCForums. Com

Rob
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Rob Thomson on September 05, 2014, 17:36:37 PM
ASW-28 (3 meter)

Remember a few months back I posted that I made had given me the kit.   It is around 10 years old.

Fully moulded, hollow wings etc..   Must have cost a bomb 10 years back!

The kit came with the air brakes, even an aero tow hook and retracts!

I have pulled out the retract system.  Unfortunately the plastic system had gone brittle over the years.  It was not working well.  I would certainly be interested in picking up a system for a 3m model?

I am happy all round.  Hopefully it will get its first flight next week.

Decals all done :)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on September 05, 2014, 17:54:29 PM
So so day at Firle, got there by 10am to face grey sky and a soggy flacid light breeze that only just kept me above the slope.
Waited for an hour and tried again and it was still pretty rubbish but then a few extra bumps of lift came through...never really dipped below the horizon even though the windspeed was probably less than 5mph.
Last flight was at around 3'ish when it was almost windstill, but there was constant lift with the occasional good thermal coming through, I had the air to myself and it was worth the schlep in the end.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on September 07, 2014, 17:25:46 PM
Nice one Mark. :af
I went for a 24 mile bike ride today, from Seasalter to Reculver and back.
At Beltinge, a lone paraglider was doing well in the very light airs.
I thought there might be a chance to get a bit of seawall sloping in with my 'Salome' on my return but the sea breeze at Seasalter wasn't playing ball.  :'(

Mr Goodwind, with an admiring audience, shows us how it's done!  ::)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRQY89_927k# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRQY89_927k#)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: peter_burgess on September 08, 2014, 21:58:57 PM
Wednesday and Thursday look like possible Bopeep days  :)
Here's hoping  :af
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on September 09, 2014, 06:49:41 AM
Wednesday and Thursday look like possible Bopeep days  :)
Here's hoping  :af
I'm working unfortunately so it will have to be Friday, the weekend or Monday for me....

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on September 09, 2014, 08:42:55 AM
I'm only able to do Saturday...it's the last ever Siege Cross aerotow so should go to that, but the call of the slope is strong...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on September 09, 2014, 08:57:17 AM
Friday, Monday or maybe Sunday for me too atm...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Weds on September 09, 2014, 10:16:40 AM
Friday, Monday or maybe Sunday for me too atm...

Only Friday for me..
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on September 09, 2014, 17:36:32 PM
Having to work Friday to cover for a colleague who's on holiday, but Monday is doable.

I promised to take a relative to the Southern Model Airshow on Saturday, so that leaves Sunday for the last Seige Cross meet.
Looks like the wind is going to be nearly straight down the runway.

Si, If you fancy an outing on Sunday with the Big '29 to Thatcham, I'm quite happy to drive there even if I don't fly, . . . or will it be Bopeep . . . or wait until Monday?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on September 09, 2014, 20:47:29 PM
I promised to take a relative to the Southern Model Airshow on Saturday, so that leaves Sunday for the last Seige Cross meet.
Looks like the wind is going to be nearly straight down the runway.

Eric...are you sure you're not just on the hunt for more gliders to add to the fleet?!

Everyday looks flyable over the weekend, just a shame I can only play on Saturday. The following weekend I've three days off to fly as much as I want, wherever I want...sods law will be that it'll be damp light Easterlies....
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on September 09, 2014, 21:29:40 PM
I'd forgotten I'mdoing the annual vintage car thing at Goodwood this Sunday so I think I'm going for Friday with Saturday as a back up.
Which one to take though - ASG or Fox?.......

Si

Argh! Looking a bit too easterly now on Friday!.....
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on September 10, 2014, 15:36:40 PM
I'd take the ASG Simon as the blow is looking a bit light
You'll have Paul as your launcher, but don't forget to remind him to have extra Shreaded Wheat for breakfast!  ;)
Have a great day.

I'm just off to the Isle of Sheep for a quick hour or so on the Minster Slopes.  :)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on September 10, 2014, 15:52:20 PM
Hmmm, Friday is still looking a bit kack and my launching skills are still shot to bits...I am currently undergoing weekly therapy with a sports psychologist to address the situation!

I think we might be better off on the Isle too Eric!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on September 10, 2014, 16:04:11 PM
I think Saturday is looking the better option now, so I will probably just keep working on the smaller ASG on Friday if there is any doubt.

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on September 10, 2014, 16:18:22 PM
I think Saturday is looking the better option now, so I will probably just keep working on the smaller ASG on Friday if there is any doubt.

Will it be ready for Saturday?
I'll be at Bo Peep…although I've really been given a pass for Siege Cross!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on September 10, 2014, 16:28:10 PM
I'll be at Bo Peep…although I've really been given a pass for Siege Cross!

Last time I checked, Seige Cross passes are also valid at Bo-peep...I think this is still the case.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on September 10, 2014, 16:41:11 PM
My Binham pass was valid at Thurnham the other week…!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on September 10, 2014, 17:22:05 PM
I think we might be better off on the Isle too Eric!

I'd love to fly the ASH 26 there but getting it back onto the ground safely is a bit of a challenge!
I suppose airbrakes and crow should slow it up enough to be able to make a short steep approach.  :xx
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on September 10, 2014, 17:27:25 PM
Should be simple Eric, just remember to miss the manhole covers, concrete steps and handrails!!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on September 10, 2014, 17:49:29 PM
Should be simple Eric, just remember to miss the manhole covers, concrete steps and handrails!!
...or aim for Ditchling and have a bit more flexibility with the landing and a lot more slope to fly on.

I think I will be going to Ditchling, on Sunday.

Jef
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on September 10, 2014, 18:13:45 PM
...or aim for Ditchling and have a bit more flexibility with the landing and a lot more slope to fly on.
I think I will be going to Ditchling, on Sunday.
Jef
When its just 10 miles to Minster and over 70 miles for me to Ditchling, then the challenge of a few manmade obstacles doesn't seem quite so bad  :xx  ;D
There's over a kilometre of slope to fly on Jef, so I should be able to find somewhere to land.
I just don't want to land again in the garden I landed in last time when my radio failed - ooops, . . . and this time the aircraft will be five times bigger. :''
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on September 10, 2014, 18:22:27 PM
Will it be ready for Saturday?


It might be ready a week on Saturday, but even that is unlikely - still much to do....
I'll see you at Bopeep this Saturday then, unless the forecast changes again  :-\

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Allen the soarer on September 12, 2014, 15:00:38 PM
Foxy Bopeep Saturday ??

 $%&
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on September 12, 2014, 17:33:38 PM
Have a good session up on the mighty 'Peep tomorrow chaps.

Hope the skies aren't too busy....remember to take some photos so we, less fortunate ones, can vicariously enjoy the day!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Rob Thomson on September 12, 2014, 19:16:54 PM
ASW-28 (3 meter)

Remember a few months back I posted that I made had given me the kit.   It is around 10 years old.

Fully moulded, hollow wings etc..   Must have cost a bomb 10 years back!

The kit came with the air brakes, even an aero tow hook and retracts!

I have pulled out the retract system.  Unfortunately the plastic system had gone brittle over the years.  It was not working well.  I would certainly be interested in picking up a system for a 3m model?

I am happy all round.  Hopefully it will get its first flight next week.

And it flies rather well!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on September 12, 2014, 22:35:34 PM
Foxy Bopeep Saturday ??
 $%&
Sorry, can't make it this time Allen, I'm taking a relative to the Southern Model Airshow and asking to go out all day Sunday as well wouldn't be appreciated.

However, it would be good to get your Fox, Si's Big Fox and my Arctic Fox up together sometime - hopefully we'll be able to do it this autumn.

Have a good time tomorrow guys!  :af
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Allen the soarer on September 13, 2014, 13:46:50 PM
Heading there now but forecast at home is  East with the odd south east :(
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Allen the soarer on September 13, 2014, 20:40:13 PM
great to see Simon and Mark again

Here's the link to the fully molded fox I was talking about though it was 4.3m not 5
http://www.glidermania.co.uk/products/Fox.html (http://www.glidermania.co.uk/products/Fox.html)

Here's the Pilots for Simon
http://www.topmodel.fr/en/product_list.php?kat=691 (http://www.topmodel.fr/en/product_list.php?kat=691)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on September 13, 2014, 21:03:15 PM
How was it then chaps?

Deprived minds need to know!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on September 13, 2014, 21:07:33 PM
Epic day, flew the fast little Swift in conditions it excels in and my 6m ASG in constant if not altitude breaking lift.

Allen's Fox and the MILF incident was a classsic!

Did anyone lose a battery pack?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on September 13, 2014, 21:30:11 PM

Allen's Fox and the MILF incident was a classsic!


The mind boggles!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on September 13, 2014, 21:36:24 PM
Whilst all this tomfoolery was going on I was calmly flying my Fox (Allen's having shed its wings whilst giving chase).  Not only were the boys attentions distracted by the MILFs but they even neglected to get photographs - I ask you - is this any way to be a contender in the 2014 slope babe competition?

Si

PS Eric - is it too late to order a pair of canopies for my Fox as I broke the front one carrying it back to the car!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on September 13, 2014, 22:33:38 PM
Whilst all this tomfoolery was going on I was calmly flying my Fox (Allen's having shed its wings whilst giving chance).

Si

Did shedding its wings increase the loading sufficiently to catch yours Si?

Poor show regarding the lack of photos.

Jef
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on September 14, 2014, 08:13:47 AM

Poor show regarding the lack of photos.

Jef

what a bunch of amateurs!!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on September 14, 2014, 09:18:52 AM
Whilst all this tomfoolery was going on I was calmly flying my Fox (Allen's having shed its wings whilst giving chase).  Not only were the boys attentions distracted by the MILFs but they even neglected to get photographs - I ask you - is this any way to be a contender in the 2014 slope babe competition?
Si
PS Eric - is it too late to order a pair of canopies for my Fox as I broke the front one carrying it back to the car!

Si, I could say 'I told you so' but I won't.  ;) - I think you'll be just in time!  :xx
Give Terry White a call this evening and he'll organise it for you as he is going over to Sarik in Bristol on Wednesday to pick up my canopies and his moulds, so there's a good chance that Derek will be able to make you a pair by the time Terry gets there.  :af
There's a possibility that Terry will be going to Middle Wallop next month, so we'll be able to pick them up there if we are making the trip, otherwise he said he will post them.

Sounds like you guys had a good day, but missing a photo opportunity like that is unforgivable - am I still in the lead Paul or is it still with Simon, as you say the legality of my entry is in doubt?  ???

I had a very good day at the Southern Model Show yesterday watching some amazingly epic flying - full size and model Extras doing syncronised aerobatics, I've never seen that before, plus Greg Hayfield's 83% Pitts - what a beast! . . . and more than 20 models flying together in the same bit of air looking like a big swarm of seagulls . . . and I bought . . . . no I won't tell you now, you'll find out later. ;D

I'll post some photos this evening, at least I had my camera in action!  ;)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on September 14, 2014, 16:51:30 PM
Magnificent day for the Calypso Contest at Ditchling again. Claggy start (I left home at 7am) - but mist high enough to allow some flying at above eye level, when I got to the site at 8.30. Very light airs to start with. Gradual improvement in lift and visibility. First flight was in excess of 90 minutes.

Stopped flying at 10.25 and chatted for nearly two hours then flew again. Second flight included full ballast as the wind had improved beyond 10mph and there was good thermal action every now and again. Working on rolling circle, can do a rolling half circle (one full roll) - then my bottle goes!

Wind gradually slowed towards the end of the second flight and a landing was forced at around 1.50pm for another epic 90 minuter. Three others were there, Terry, Mick and Chris. No breakage and lots of smiling faces - particularly from the many spectators.

No PG, No HG, No Full-Size Crunchies, No Worries!

Jef
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on September 14, 2014, 19:58:13 PM
PS Eric - is it too late to order a pair of canopies for my Fox as I broke the front one carrying it back to the car!
Si, I've spoken to Terry and he is going to order a pair for you tomorrow morning and he'll collect them on Wednesday.  :af
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: terry white on September 15, 2014, 11:45:14 AM
Hi Simon,Eric,
Spoke to Derek this morning Re the second Fox canopies for Simon.
At first he said he could not manage it because he finishes this coming Friday and is hard pushed time wise to complete his promised orders.However with the correct amount of pleading and waffle he has promised to try but with no guaranty.
If he is successful I will pick them up on Wednesday with Eric's.
Watch this space.

Am I now a South East flyer or is there some initiating ceremony that I have to perform?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on September 15, 2014, 19:05:33 PM
Thanks Terry, fingers crossed.

There is an initiation ceremony to join the South East Flyers, but it's best I tell you in person as I don't want to frighten you too much!

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on September 16, 2014, 07:30:27 AM
Fellow flyer caught this rather good snap at Bopeep last Saturday of me, Big Fox and a birdie.

(http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee324/swarrans/Big%20Fox/FoxatFirle_zps8ed78b99.jpg) (http://s532.photobucket.com/user/swarrans/media/Big%20Fox/FoxatFirle_zps8ed78b99.jpg.html)

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: terry white on September 17, 2014, 22:58:38 PM
Hi all you S.E.F.s
I have been warned about you lot and your initiation ceremony. :''

I have had a very successful day at Saric-vacform.

I now have in my possession all my purbeck sailplane's molds, and two complete Fox canopies sets, 1 each for Eric and Simon.

They keep breaking them you know. ::)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on September 18, 2014, 05:34:49 AM
Many, many thanks Terry!  :af
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on September 18, 2014, 06:40:18 AM
Yes many thanks Terry - see you at Middle Wallop and shall I send you a cheque?   PM me....

I've repaired my original canopy so it is ready for action again but it's nice to have spares and I may do a complete cosmetic refurbishment at some point...


Simon
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: colpick53 on September 20, 2014, 14:35:37 PM
hi all just letting you have the heads up 1st on my multiplex cularis fully built and ready to go never flown, lost interest at the moment  :'( pm or ring me if your interested 07834800478 for pics and details
   cheers colin
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: colpick53 on September 20, 2014, 19:52:52 PM
might even part with my multiplex tangeant flamingo for the right price
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on September 21, 2014, 21:26:39 PM
What a day!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on September 21, 2014, 21:49:38 PM
Yes,great day at Firle today with a great re-maiden for Mark's Nimbus and a successful maiden for my new ASG29.

Plus I am a bit sunburnt which is more than you can expect at this time of year!

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on September 23, 2014, 10:46:04 AM
I too was a little red by the time I got home! And absolutely knackered…I worked out I did nearly 5 hrs worth of flying, my Tx battery was as low as I dared by 6pm.

Your ASG29 went really well Simon, v scale like when you had the thermal setting switched in, and it'll look even better once it's stickered up.

I got my ASG9 to 821 metres, which according to the hang gliderists was just below the cloud base…I was struggling to keep control of it due to the bumpy nature of the air so wasn't feeling comfortable at hitting the illusive 1000 metre mark. Am thinking about adding ballast for strong days like we had on Sunday.

I also managed to chuck the Nimbus off by myself, it was a pussy cat…luckily the wind had dropped by then!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on September 25, 2014, 15:32:59 PM
Looking good for a little Thurnham action tomorrow?


Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on September 25, 2014, 17:10:39 PM
I'm with child…I might pop down just for something to do with her tho, chase cows or throw sticks at the paragliders….
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on September 26, 2014, 08:34:09 AM
I think I'll give it a miss on balance and wait until it's a proper SW wind....

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on September 26, 2014, 09:29:27 AM
Don't worry chaps, I had a quick 1/2hr fly this morning just to make sure the lift didn't go to waste!

On another note, I'll be heading down to Basingstoke on Sunday, forecast is SE. Gary is it worth me packing a model and giving Beacon Hill a go, or am I better off heading back home for an evening session at Holly?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Rob Thomson on September 26, 2014, 10:10:36 AM
The slope at Kingsclere is superb.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Rob Thomson on September 26, 2014, 10:11:10 AM
But not ao good in SE.  You really want a Notherly :)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on September 26, 2014, 12:07:31 PM
I got over 500m with my 1/4 scale ASH31 on the SE slope at Beacon Hill, if any more Easterly however the hills opposite tend to block off the best of the wind.

Eat at least x3 Shreaded Wheat if climbing up Beacon Hill...it's toughie!!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on September 26, 2014, 20:42:47 PM
I'd say it's borderline, Paul. I haven't had great experiences at Beacon Hill, but somehow I enjoyed flying there all the same. It's a refreshing climb up, and you can look down on Highclere Castle where Downton Abbey is filmed. But in the low wind that is forecast for the weekend, I suspect there won't be anything much in the way of lift. Possibly not worth the trouble to be brutally honest.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on September 27, 2014, 02:43:56 AM
Being so far inland I found it really thermally there...watch out for the thorny little shrubs whilst landing tho!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on September 27, 2014, 08:32:33 AM
Thanks chaps, I shall pack a model and see how the fancy takes me when I'm in the vicinity!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on September 30, 2014, 09:49:04 AM
Paul…did you make it to Beacon Hill at the weekend?

It's looking good for Thurnham on Friday, I'll be there bright and early for a full fix...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on September 30, 2014, 10:01:43 AM
Didn't bother in the end Mark, despite it being a superb day for sunshine there was very little wind...maybe next time.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on September 30, 2014, 11:37:59 AM

It's looking good for Thurnham on Friday, I'll be there bright and early for a full fix...

I've got to work in the morning but will be there after lunch

Si

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on September 30, 2014, 13:28:45 PM
I've got to work in the morning but will be there after lunch

In a suit or is it dress down Friday…?!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on September 30, 2014, 18:14:44 PM
Suited and booted presentation!...

I may bring a change of clothes for flying later...

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Weds on September 30, 2014, 18:33:50 PM
I've got to work in the morning but will be there after lunch

Si

I'll be sleeping in the morning but should be able to make the afternoon...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on September 30, 2014, 20:31:38 PM
I had a quick fly at Colley Hill today and this was the comment from a passer-by:

"Oh, it's got a homing device, that's great."

Now, I'm used to people saying things like "Where's the engine?" but really, a homing device?! 

The reason is that when I landed, the glider floated a few yards further than intended and landed neatly on my backpack. It certainly was a novel fluke. But to assume that a homing device is involved, well, people really have a lot of faith in technology these days!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: JohnP on September 30, 2014, 20:45:22 PM
Gary,  I'm rarely surprised by the wacky ideas that some members of the public express about our models,  but that one comes close!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on September 30, 2014, 20:46:42 PM
Were you flying the Duo Discus Gary?! ;)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Rob Thomson on September 30, 2014, 21:15:08 PM
Anyone flying tomorrow?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on October 01, 2014, 06:46:17 AM
I was flying my usual F3F plane, the Extreme. Sorry, can't get out of work today - have a good session if you get out.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on October 01, 2014, 07:26:23 AM
I've got to work in the morning but will be there after lunch

Si

Not sure how my Friday is panning out atm.....might only be able to make an early morning slot (hurrumph >:()

Anyone flying tomorrow?

Got to work today too Rob
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on October 03, 2014, 20:45:42 PM
I'm sunburnt!
Great day at Thurnham, wish I'd stayed longer...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Rob Thomson on October 03, 2014, 21:36:32 PM
I ended up having a superb few hours at Colley today.

Wind was bang on.  Lift was good too :)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on October 03, 2014, 21:48:19 PM
My 6.6m Nimbus might have struggled with the landing area at Colley!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on October 04, 2014, 05:35:17 AM
Lovely afternoon at Thurnham and a great release after a hectic week of work, DIY and motorcycle restoration!
BTW Mark, I had a much better flight with my ASG when Paul turned up late on - we stuck a nylon washer under the back of the tailplane and she seems much happier - still a lot of trimming and fine tuning to do but Ithink she will be fine now....

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on October 04, 2014, 07:50:01 AM
That's good news Simon, I take it the washer didn't interfere with the elevator servo connection! Winglets next and I'll get those servo covers to you as well...it's a fantastic looking glider
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Rob Thomson on October 07, 2014, 10:52:03 AM
Righteo...

I am hoping to drop past Colley Hill tomorrow.

Wind looks to be bang on!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on October 07, 2014, 21:43:56 PM
Does look good. If the rain holds off.

I have a meeting in Newhaven, not sure how long it will take, but if it finishes soon enough to allow me to stop by Colley Hill I'll text you.



Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on October 08, 2014, 02:59:35 AM
Hi All, just checking up on what you've up to whilst I've been across the pond. Currently in Toronto Airport waiting for the flight for our final leg back to the UK. We've been in the Big Apple for the last four days but Connie doesn't like the city. It's too noisy and dirty for her, although we did have a good cruise around Manhattan Island this morning. See you all on the slope soon. Eric
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Rob Thomson on October 08, 2014, 07:32:25 AM
Does look good. If the rain holds off.

I have a meeting in Newhaven, not sure how long it will take, but if it finishes soon enough to allow me to stop by Colley Hill I'll text you.
Weathwr reports seem to think it should clear round 11.

I habebdine a little jig, and made an offering to the weather gods....   time will tell if they listen!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on October 08, 2014, 09:03:05 AM
Rather damp (an understatement!) at the moment here.....

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Rob Thomson on October 08, 2014, 11:25:43 AM
Well.

I made it to Colley Hill for around 12pm.    Blue sky..  lots of lift.  Wonderfull.

Gary arrived at around 1:20 - and we proceeded to run riot around the sky for the next couple of hours - before the rain came again.

Only 'pig' was snapping my Sunbird on my last landing.  Nothing major as its already repaired and near invisible!

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on October 09, 2014, 14:18:43 PM
Rob and I had a great session at a stormy Colley Hill yesterday. Certainly blew the cobwebs away. Couldn't believe how fast Rob's little Sunbird mouldy was moving.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on October 10, 2014, 18:49:12 PM
I thinkg it looks OK for Thurnham tomorrow - any takers?....

or maybe it's Wrotham?...

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on October 10, 2014, 20:30:45 PM
I'll be there.  :af

Edit -.after 3pm ish, by which time the showers should have passed through.  :xx
http://www.raintoday.co.uk/ (http://www.raintoday.co.uk/)
I need to get some stick time in as I haven't been on the slope for over a month!

UPDATE - A good session at Thurnham with Simon, Eric P and David plus two other well known Kent regulars whose names I have forgotten - sorry guys. We were also visited by a nice bunch of guys from those flatlands north of the Thames Estuary. They had with them a couple of brand new Sunbirds and one of them had its maiden and flew very nicely indeed, especially as it was the first slope session for its pilot. The second one had a wing connector problem so didn't fly. See you again guys.

The other incident of note was when a young lad with a powered foam glider and family in tow arrived at the slope but  walked past us to fly from a point about 100 metres west of the normal launch point. He launched the model by holding it unusually halfway between the wing and tailplane  and although it powered away easily, the inevitable happened after about ten seconds of flight when he gave too much left stick and it dropped into a terminal spiral dive. The next time we saw the model was when he threw the broken remains back over the fence towards his family and the group then retreated from the slope. If only he had come over to see us, he would have had a successful initiation into our hobby - what a shame!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on October 12, 2014, 09:19:44 AM
So sad when beginners avoid us and crash planes.  I remember doing exactly the same thing the first time I flew. I thought "I'd better not get in the way of those expert guys" so I went 100 yards away and wrote off the plane.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Rob Thomson on October 12, 2014, 10:10:06 AM
Always the way.... 

I always try make a point of saying hello - and offering help.

Its notnally kindof clear before luanch that they are noobs.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on October 12, 2014, 11:04:13 AM
Rob, this lad and his family steered well clear of us when they walked across the field and it looked as though he was going to be competent until he picked up his model to launch it  and when we saw he was going to launch the model by holding the fuselage halfway between wing and tailplane, it was too late to approach him to offer assistance.

I normally offer help to newbies but on this occasion he obviously didn't want help and was too far away to intervene in time.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: BLADE1 on October 12, 2014, 12:02:20 PM
On the subject of crashing,my Paritech nimbus went in the other day!! Launched as I usually do but after a few seconds of climb down she went! It was the worst case of sink ive ever encounterd. As the plane lost height 2 other models were sinking alongside mine (Barrys model). I thought it was going to end up on the pub! Anyway it crashed into the road castle hill.
The model is for sale pm if interested. There is wing damage and is repairable. Needs new winglets.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Rob Thomson on October 12, 2014, 12:59:15 PM
Rob, this lad and his family steered well clear of us when they walked across the field and it looked as though he was going to be competent until he picked up his model to launch it  and when we saw he was going to launch the model by holding the fuselage halfway between wing and tailplane, it was too late to approach him to offer assistance.

I normally offer help to newbies but on this occasion he obviously didn't want help and was too far away to intervene in time.
Strange.   You havr to wonder why they assume that they can fly - without a bit of training!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Mart on October 13, 2014, 11:43:53 AM
I'll be there.  :af

Edit -.after 3pm ish, by which time the showers should have passed through.  :xx
[url]http://www.raintoday.co.uk/[/url] ([url]http://www.raintoday.co.uk/[/url])
I need to get some stick time in as I haven't been on the slope for over a month!

UPDATE - A good session at Thurnham with Simon, Eric P and David plus two other well known Kent regulars whose names I have forgotten - sorry guys. We were also visited by a nice bunch of guys from those flatlands north of the Thames Estuary. They had with them a couple of brand new Sunbirds and one of them had its maiden and flew very nicely indeed, especially as it was the first slope session for its pilot. The second one had a wing connector problem so didn't fly. See you again guys.



Hi Eric,
we were the guys with the sunbirds, would just like to say thanks for the friendly welcome from you guys there, and the helpful advise as we have been flying for many years but this was our first trip out sloping with the sunbirds and pleased to say that one did get its maiden and went very nicely!
thanks again Eric for having some tools at hand  ;) we will come more prepared next time  :af

http://youtu.be/lbHzhSFWNbY?list=UUSy7sxXgInWsQGTqKSeT-rA (http://youtu.be/lbHzhSFWNbY?list=UUSy7sxXgInWsQGTqKSeT-rA)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on October 13, 2014, 17:28:03 PM
So sad when beginners avoid us and crash planes.  I remember doing exactly the same thing the first time I flew. I thought "I'd better not get in the way of those expert guys" so I went 100 yards away and wrote off the plane.

We are all glad that you weren't put off Gary - where would we be without www.slopehunter.co.uk (http://www.slopehunter.co.uk) !!

When I was learning to slope soar fifty years ago, there was no one to show us what to do apart from having a copy of the RCM&E with Pat Teakle's 'how to slope soar' notes in it with us. We used to crash regularly and it was a case of spending the weekend trying to learn to fly, crash, rebuild during the week using balsa, nylon and dope, fly again the next weekend, crash, rebuild and repeating until we eventually sort of cracked it. Bear in mind that we were using unreliable reed radio gear, with bang-bang servos giving only centre and full throw, nothing in between, no proportional in those days. However we got there in the end and it's still my favourite form of model flying.

Blimey, half a century of slope soaring - that went quickly.  :o  :)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on October 13, 2014, 17:40:38 PM
Hi Eric,
we were the guys with the sunbirds, would just like to say thanks for the friendly welcome from you guys there, and the helpful advise as we have been flying for many years but this was our first trip out sloping with the sunbirds and pleased to say that one did get its maiden and went very nicely!
thanks again Eric for having some tools at hand  ;) we will come more prepared next time  :af

Hi Mart,

Very pleased that you and the others had a good day with us at Thurnham and that you were able to successfully maiden one of your Sunbirds. 
I think a couple of others that are still sitting in their boxes here in Kent will now get built pretty quickly after seeing yours fly.
We'll look out for you again in the not too distant future . . . and bring your scalies along next time.

All the best, Eric

PS - I don't normally wear silly hats, but I have just got back from New York and had taken a number of yellow cab rides so when I saw the yellow New York Taxi baseball cap for two dollars, I couldn't resist buying it .However I promise I won't wear it again!!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on October 15, 2014, 14:29:30 PM
Me again!
Anyone up for Thurnham on Friday?
It looks like it's going to be quite decent.  :af
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on October 15, 2014, 15:41:39 PM
Me…and Sat looks good for Wrotham, I may be able to squeeze a few hours there too!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on October 15, 2014, 16:12:43 PM
I'd like to on Friday but it depends on the bathroom re-modelling progress.  I'm away all weekend at a motorcycle show getting tips for my restoration project and quotes for all this re-chroming!

(http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee324/swarrans/P1010840_zps711b2555.jpg) (http://s532.photobucket.com/user/swarrans/media/P1010840_zps711b2555.jpg.html)

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on October 15, 2014, 19:14:27 PM
If the forecast stays as it is, I think I will be going to Colley Hill on Sunday.

Anyone else want to come along and show me how to land there?

Cheers,

Jef
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: JohnP on October 15, 2014, 19:25:32 PM
Anyone else want to come along and show me how to land there?

I've been flying there for ages,  and I'm still trying to work that one out!  ::)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Rob Thomson on October 15, 2014, 20:45:55 PM
I cant make it.

But not too hard.  Just tight :)

If at all concerned. .. go right to the far right of the slope.   Its easier.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on October 16, 2014, 09:31:10 AM
Might be able to make it, I'll see how things pan out.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on October 16, 2014, 09:32:03 AM
By the way, has anyone lost a model?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: SpringHead on October 16, 2014, 10:04:34 AM
Wouldn't mind fettling with her undercarriage
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on October 17, 2014, 07:29:53 AM
The wind looks like southerly today according to XC - but that has been totally unreliable recently - any other predictions?

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on October 17, 2014, 11:11:04 AM
Hi Simon,

YR, the site used by the professionals at sea shows SSW, so it's Thurnham for me this afternoon. I'll be there around about 2pm.
http://www.yr.no/place/United_Kingdom/England/Thurnham~7295885/hour_by_hour.html (http://www.yr.no/place/United_Kingdom/England/Thurnham~7295885/hour_by_hour.html)

Weatherspark also shows SSW.
http://weatherspark.com/# (http://weatherspark.com/#)!dashboard;q=51.2953%2C%200.5891
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Rob Thomson on October 17, 2014, 15:42:25 PM
Nice time at Colley today.

Bit bumpy. . But bags of lift.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on October 17, 2014, 20:54:14 PM
Well it had to happen!

Those two hoonigans, Mark and Simon were again flying their Swifts this afternoon when they collided mid-air. Normally they are side by side or chasing each other, but this time they were going in opposite directions and they collided head-on!

Charlie always reckoned it was going to happen sooner or later and when they crashed into each other he was pleased that he actually saw it when he was watching their antics and not flying!

I was flying at the time so the photos below are following the event, although I did hear cries at the time of "I'm alright!" and "I'm not, I'm going down!" from Simon and Mark respectively!

Mark landed out a fair way down the slope but Simon nonchalantly carried on flying, however five minutes later decided that he ought to land to check out his model. He had minimal damage and relaunched much to Mark's chagrin when he eventually returned with his model which was a bit worse for wear.


The two paricipants in the mid-air jousting session!
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Damage to Simon's Swift - foam veneer wing - not too bad!
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Damage to Mark's Swift - hollow moulded wing - ouch!
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Damage to Mark's Swift's starboard wing - it will be an interesting repair jobbie.
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Still smiling as they recreate the moment of impact ( Mark through gritted teeth  :'( )
. . . whilst Ray gives them his blessing!  ;)
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Simon carried out a quick repair on Mark's model with white insulation tape and he did later give him one of the fingers of his Kit-Kat chocolate bar to say sorry!
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They'll be back doing their thing again in the not too distant future - make sure you are there!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on October 17, 2014, 21:29:48 PM
Interesting that the foam-veneer wing survived better!

It's probably a great result that a midair between two large and heavy planes did not result in complete annihilation.

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on October 17, 2014, 21:37:50 PM
Jef and John, it's looking like Saturday might be better at Colley Hill than Sunday. On Sunday if the wind is SW Thurnham might be better.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: JohnP on October 17, 2014, 21:46:10 PM
Looking like a wet morning and a dryish afternoon.  A little breezy (being directly across the strip) for power-flying on the Downs,  so I'll probably head for Colley Hill in the afternoon.  :af
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on October 18, 2014, 00:30:43 AM
Jef and John, it's looking like Saturday might be better at Colley Hill than Sunday. On Sunday if the wind is SW Thurnham might be better.

That's just typical! I am committed both to Sunday and Colley Hill (having arranged to meet people there).

Might get the business done and come over to Thurnham mid afternoon (Sunday).

Jef
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on October 18, 2014, 10:26:06 AM
After the previously reported incident yesterday, Mark decided that he needed to fly again so put up his big Nimbus once more. He had a nice flight with some screaming high speed passes, but unfortunately had an incident on landing, just to nicely round off his day.

Luckily I caught his approach and 'arrival' on video when I was testing my new camera phone, but he has appealed to my better nature not to post it here. I have had to put up with lots of comments regarding the video of the first abortive launch of my Arctic Fox, which was posted on YouTube so I think Mark ought to take some of the load off my shoulders. However, to be fair, I think I should put it to the vote, so if you would like to see more of Mark's antics let me know and if the answer is positive, then you will find it here later this evening.  ;)

Edit:
Mark's Nimbus flight and arrival
Sorry the editing is a bit basic but my normal editor won't cooperate with the output from my new phone so I've had to use the standard YouTube facility.

http://youtu.be/euGg6FGRdUE (http://youtu.be/euGg6FGRdUE)

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Weds on October 18, 2014, 10:33:29 AM
After the previously reported incident yesterday, Mark decided that he needed to fly again so put up his big Nimbus once more. He had a nice flight with some screaming high speed passes, but unfortunately had an incident on landing, just to nicely round off his day.

Luckily I caught his approach and 'arrival' on video when I was testing my new camera phone, but he has appealed to my better nature not to post it here. I have had to put up with lots of comments regarding the video of the first abortive launch of my Arctic Fox, which was posted on YouTube so I think Mark ought to take some of the load off my shoulders. However, to be fair, I think I should put it to the vote, so if you would like to see more of Mark's antics let me know and if the answer is positive, then you will find it here later this evening.  ;)

Yes... post it..  ;D
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on October 18, 2014, 10:41:43 AM
Eric...put the nice passes up as well and you have my blessing to upload the squiffy landing.
The Nimbus is absolutely fine though!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: JohnP on October 18, 2014, 18:52:52 PM
Jef and John, it's looking like Saturday might be better at Colley Hill than Sunday.

Did anyone else go today?  I was waiting until the rain passed - but it never arrived!  So eventually I headed out at 4pm and had an hour and a half or so.  Good lift and quite smooth most of the time I was there.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on October 18, 2014, 19:49:48 PM
Hi John,

No, I didn't go today, I am going tomorrrow despite the fact it's South Westerly. I am swapping some models etc. in the car park at 1pm. If it is flyable I will give it a go, if not, I will go to Thurnham afterwards.

Thanks,

Jef



Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: JohnP on October 18, 2014, 21:07:57 PM
It was forecast SW today,  and Redhill were reporting 10kts at 210 degrees - which is between SW and SSW.  They also reported it varying between 180 and 230 degrees - which matched what we noticed at Colley Hill.  Tomorrow is forecast a bit stronger and possibly a touch more to the west than today.  I may get along later in the afternoon again.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on October 19, 2014, 09:18:06 AM
Here's ofej at Colley Hill today. Strong lift and sunny, surprising no one else was there.

I bet Thurnham was good today.

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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on October 19, 2014, 17:51:13 PM
Yes very surprising indeed! Very strong lift at each end of the ridge and just too much in the middle to make landing a comfortable thing, but we both came away with no damage (despite my handbrake turn landing)!

Not sure if Marc visits this forum, but I was well pleased with the swap - hope he enjoys the Minimoa as much as I did.

Jef
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Rob Thomson on October 19, 2014, 18:48:15 PM
Glad you enjoyed it. 

Landing at Colley is not to hard.. but certainly it is a site that puts hairs on your chest.  Separates boys from men etc...

:)

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: JohnP on October 19, 2014, 20:19:59 PM
Strong lift and sunny, surprising no one else was there.

I was in two minds,  but figured the wind was too westerly and a bit on the gusty side too.  It took my about 6 goes to get the Speedo down yesterday - if I'd flown it today I'd probably still be there now trying to land it!  :''
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on October 19, 2014, 20:50:56 PM
I was in two minds,  but figured the wind was too westerly and a bit on the gusty side too.  It took my about 6 goes to get the Speedo down yesterday - if I'd flown it today I'd probably still be there now trying to land it!  :''

Regarding landing attempts, I was into double figures - aborted on approach several times due to people milling about and made nine attempts at losing enough energy to touch down...

The Calypso Contest weathercocks on slopes when the crow is on, which is a nice feature on some slopes but is not ideal for the short & wide landing zone at Colley.

Not wanting to come down with one tip lower than the other (just in case there was a drop in lift), this meant I had astonishingly little control over exactly where the landing finally took place.  :o

As a flat-field competition pilot, I am used to landing on (or somewhere near) a landing circle, but I learnt a lot about landing today.
It was good to have Gary P there to show me how he does it. He made it look a lot easier than I did.  :-*

Despite this, it was all a very enjoyable experience, but I would not fly anything there that I wouldn't be happy to break!

Jef
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on October 19, 2014, 21:38:18 PM
Excellent flying conditions at Thurnham today - sunny with the odd cloud scudding through to give our eyes a break from the bright sunlight. Wind strength was Force 5 SW aound lunchtime when I arrived, increasing to Force 6/7, still SW, later on. It would have been a good day for Simon and me to fly our big Foxes together, but that sight will have to wait for another day.

Despite the very strong winds only one model was damaged. Chris from Thanet had a mid section wing failure resulting in a terminal dive, the fuselage surving ok but a new wing needs to be ordered.

Pete aerobatted the Salto well, but needed even more ballast than the big steel wing joiner could provide; Charlie loaded up his model with every bit of ballast he could find to cope with the very strong but smooth conditions. My MPX Cularis, without ballast, coped very well flying smoothly in the near gale although I did cheat by using the motor to quickly clear the turbulent air behind the fence and on the landing approach to save getting blown backwards. Note - Motor is only used in cases of dire emergency.  ;)

Even stronger winds are forecast for this week, so start searching your workshops  for every bit of lead you can find!

PS - MARK'S ARRIVAL VIDEO NOW ONLINE AT Reply No 726
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on October 20, 2014, 08:54:18 AM
Anyone going up today - could be a day for a Fox?...

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on October 20, 2014, 09:17:25 AM
Too much work this week...I really need to win the lottery so I can focus on the important things...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on October 20, 2014, 09:19:53 AM
Anyone going up today - could be a day for a Fox?...

Si

gotta freakin' well work too  >:(
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on October 20, 2014, 09:27:50 AM
Me too. :(
Its half-term next week…it's bound to be easterly and wet...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on October 20, 2014, 09:45:17 AM
Argh, no launchers - I'll have to take something smaller!

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on October 20, 2014, 12:43:06 PM
Edit:
Mark's Nimbus flight and arrival
Sorry the editing is a bit basic but my normal editor won't cooperate with the output from my new phone so I've had to use the standard YouTube facility.

[url]http://youtu.be/euGg6FGRdUE[/url] ([url]http://youtu.be/euGg6FGRdUE[/url])


I'm blaming the wind suddenly going nearly SSE, an undulating landing zone, long floppy wings…and I suppose I'm responsible for coming in slightly too quickly…!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on October 20, 2014, 12:48:07 PM
Working and waiting in for the gasman to come.  >:(

Edit:
The gasman came!  :)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on October 20, 2014, 17:54:27 PM
Mark, my 5-yr-old daughter has enjoyed watched your/Eric's video about 10 times ... I think it's because of the pilot, him falling out really makes it high drama in her mind.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on October 20, 2014, 18:01:36 PM
PS - MARK'S ARRIVAL VIDEO NOW ONLINE AT Reply No 726

Not a fault of the pilot really, ground loops happen. The spoilers are a bit tame and that is a big model. The landing zone can give depth perception issues when the wind is perpendicular to the rear fence. But then again, you know all that and have flown the site A LOT.

If I were on the jury though, taking everything into consideration, you would get a "Not Guilty!" from me. Don't do it again though  ;)



Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on October 20, 2014, 18:16:25 PM
Well it was a bit dramatic up at Thurnham today - much carnage ensued...

I had a nice flight with my fully ballasted Luna but when I landed all the servos in one wing went mad so I couldn't fly again until I find out what happened.  Glad it did it after landing though...

David flew his Hols der Teufel and then let me have a go - I nearly binned it 3 times - it is seriously difficult to fly and has a horrible tendency to drop a wing and want to spin.  About 10 minutes was all my nerves could stand so I passed the tranny back to David and unfortunately after a short time it did it again and David caught it twice but the 3rd time it went down big time and into the trees with a horrendous bang.  We feared there would be nothing left of it and one wing is written off, but the worst thing is that it is stuck in an incredibly tall tree growing out of the 45 degree slope - no easy way to see how to get it down.  I think David is going to fire a catapult with string at it and see if he or the hurricane can coax it down.

Colin had a big smash up with his Luna and then a bit of a crash with his Sunbrid, so he a bad day too.  A real shame because the weather was lovely and the lift great albeit rather blustery.

No photographs to protect the innocent and avoidance of shedding more tears...

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: BLADE1 on October 20, 2014, 19:46:18 PM
So when I left the hallowed turf all hell broke loose!? Why?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on October 20, 2014, 19:52:27 PM
Sounds like I got away with it lightly last Fri!
Was the wind direction bang on the slope Simon?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on October 20, 2014, 22:31:44 PM
A Hols der Teufel, really? I'd love to see that. Such a pity it's up a tree. I have heard they are a total nightmare to fly. My Wien had a little bit of that. Something to do with the fuse being way below the wing I suspect.

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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on October 21, 2014, 06:41:13 AM
Yes that's the one Gary - she was a thing of beauty and skilfully built by David but even if he gets large pieces of it back down (which is doubtful to be honest) he's not sure he'll rebuild her - flying her was like waiting for an accident to happen and very stressful.

I didn't notice what the exact wind direction was Mark but the lift was very good.

Yes we saved all the entertainment for after you had left Paul!

Simon
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on October 21, 2014, 08:59:06 AM
Well I'm glad that there is no direct correlation between me being there with my camera
and various nasties taking place....not that that's any consolation for David or Colin.

I stopped off for a quick 'Billy-no-mates' at sunset and failed to spot the nesting Hols. Lovely
lift but the company wasn't up to much!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on October 21, 2014, 18:33:18 PM
I noticed a video or two of the maiden and a subsequent less stressful flight of the Hols der Teufel... the maiden was a very placid flight - no spiral instability at all. In fact the audience were all impressed (judging by their various comments) and the pilot was happily extolling the virtues of the easiness of the flight.

The second flight shows a slight hiccup on landing but again no nasty vices.

All a bit academic now, but I wonder if the CG was inadvertently adjusted, or if a warp had crept in the fuselage, tail surfaces or wings, over the months since the maiden. Certainly has to be worth rebuilding the bits that do come down... and it must have shifted a bit today!

Oh, the videos are on the rather excellent goodwind blog.

Best regards,

Jef

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on October 21, 2014, 19:59:46 PM
I visited Thurnham this afternoon and there was no sign of the Hols der Teufel in the trees, so hopefully David has successfully retrieved it.  :xx
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on October 22, 2014, 11:36:23 AM
I visited Thurnham this afternoon and there was no sign of the Hols der Teufel in the trees, so hopefully David has successfully retrieved it.  :xx
David just called me and it is still in the trees where we "left" it.  He says he can get within 20 ft of it and asked if anyone has a pole or anything to bridge the last distance - Eric I have left a message on your mobile with David's number on it..

Simon
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on October 22, 2014, 11:52:37 AM
Any chance you can post (or email) a link to the location on Google maps or similar Simon? I've got to pop over to Maidstone at some point and will take a look on my way.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: SpringHead on October 22, 2014, 13:16:35 PM
When this happened to me I used 3 fishing rods taped together and a 3 meter Barton even then it took about an hour to get it down! Good luck chaps
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on October 22, 2014, 16:35:39 PM
David just called me and it is still in the trees where we "left" it.  He says he can get within 20 ft of it and asked if anyone has a pole or anything to bridge the last distance - Eric I have left a message on your mobile with David's number on it..
Simon
Si, I phoned the number that you gave me for David and have left a message offering my help and I'm waiting for a call back.

Like Paul somehow I missed it even though I scoured the trees from the parking area down to the tight bend - should have gone to Specsavers!  ;)

I've got plenty of long lengths of suitable timber and a few rolls of duct tape so we should be able to make up a long probe to nudge the aircraft out of the tree. I had to do this about three years ago when I stuffed one one of my models into the top of one of the trees on the 45 degree bank at the side of the lane. I've also got plenty of rope to abseil up the bank to the base of the tree.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on October 22, 2014, 18:42:03 PM
Any chance you can post (or email) a link to the location on Google maps or similar Simon? I've got to pop over to Maidstone at some point and will take a look on my way.
Sorry Paul, I've been out all day.  I think David was going there today so there might be an update...

Simon
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on October 22, 2014, 18:54:38 PM
It was still there this afternoon, hope that David manages to get her down soon!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: David Seton on October 22, 2014, 23:09:48 PM
I made up a bamboo pole about 9m long, but it was about 1.5m short and impossible to handle in the jungle on a 45 degree slope. I may have another go  on Friday weather permitting and if I can get hold of a bow and arrow.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on October 23, 2014, 09:36:09 AM
Interim repair completed on the Swift wing, I'll be spraying it up over the winter:
The Oracover covers up the worst of it!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on October 23, 2014, 15:14:16 PM
It was still there this afternoon, hope that David manages to get her down soon!
Well I didn't see it - maybe if I go back there with my white stick I might spot it.  ;)
Any clues as to its whereabouts anyone?
PM me with the coordinates please.
Unfortunately I can't get back there until Saturday - if you still need help then David, give me a call.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on October 23, 2014, 16:07:29 PM
Saturday looking sunny, light winds to start the day but should be good in the afternoon.

I'm keeping away from Simon… ;)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on October 23, 2014, 16:44:51 PM
Saturday looking sunny, light winds to start the day but should be good in the afternoon.

I'm keeping away from Simon… ;)

..and I was hoping for some more synchronised aerobatics with my (undamaged) Swift!...

I'll be there sometime on Saturday - hoping someone is coming to buy one of my fleet of motorbikes but other than that I'm free.

Simon
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on October 23, 2014, 20:01:24 PM
i'll be there after lunch. :af
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on October 27, 2014, 18:37:29 PM
There were good winds for Thurnham at the weekend, hope someone made good use of them.

In Essex we had a Multi Launch Glider thermal soaring event, which was almost devoid of thermal activity (Only one flight in excess of 9 minutes by anyone all day long). First time I had witnessed such light thermal action, despite the fairly high wind-speeds at height.

Must have been ideal for sloping... surprised nobody mentioned it here  :study:
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Rob Thomson on October 27, 2014, 20:31:34 PM
A few of us from tvsf will be at Colley for some slope fun tomorrow.

Looka to be superb conditions.  :)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Rob Thomson on October 28, 2014, 17:38:47 PM
What a fantastic day!

Superb lift.  Remarkably warm!  :)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on October 28, 2014, 21:15:38 PM
Same at Wrotham, really thermic in the morning for a bit of altitude business then a good constant blow in the afternoon for some aerobatic action.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on October 29, 2014, 17:20:32 PM
Thurnham was good as well!  :)  Masses of lift!  :)  :)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: SpringHead on October 29, 2014, 17:29:57 PM
Did any if the Kent massive just feel an earth quake/tremor at about 16:40?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: SpringHead on October 29, 2014, 18:07:40 PM
It was a sonic boom from a couple of jets, sorry for going off topic
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on October 29, 2014, 22:24:20 PM
That's OK Martin, it was aviation related.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-29823148 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-29823148)

This is where you go if you want to report earthquakes and tremors - (completely off topic now!)
http://www.bgs.ac.uk/ (http://www.bgs.ac.uk/)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Bad Raven on October 30, 2014, 06:58:41 AM
Just had a few days in the Isle of Wight.

Favourite public spot was east of Freshwater Bay up the headland on the coast road. There is a large free little used (at this time of year anyway) rough chalk car park which has a golf course behind.

Between the Car Park and the Course is a tussocky grass strip with a broad path which gets decent Alula/DLG strength and lift. Cross the road and the coastal path then across a deep enough for anyone tussocky grass landing zone, and there is a sheer chalk cliff which over three days had superb stable lift and a good blow over a wide and deep zone once through the quite violent rotor. Def a great foamie site, brilliant with my Slipstream. 

Not that often you find a site that can support swapping between a DS modded ballasted wing and an ultralight on the same day and conditions !??

Also, where we stayed was cliff topped, a bay so NW to S/SSW facing, deserted and flyable for all bar one day when there was too much east in the southerly.  Private site though.

Didn't see another flyer in the whole time on the island.  Found a good inland hilltop site one evening but at the time the pillows were everywhere.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on October 30, 2014, 08:28:56 AM
Sounds great - I'm trying to figure out where it is - is it where the arrow is on this map?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on October 30, 2014, 11:36:03 AM
Will be at Wrotham tomorrow then Thurnham Saturday so as to get as much stick time in while the predicted weather stays with us...
Anyone else out to play?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on October 30, 2014, 14:46:59 PM
Visiting Ski Show at Earls Court tomorrow, but I'll be at Thurnham on Saturday!  :af
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Bad Raven on October 30, 2014, 18:17:46 PM
Sounds great - I'm trying to figure out where it is - is it where the arrow is on this map?


Hi Gary, hold the map up the right way   ;D   , the spot is east of the bay, here.......................

(http://www.atomic-album.com/showPic.php/22727/Freshwater1.jpg)

The lower grey line is the coastal path, BTW. As you can see, at that point well clear of any landing zone.

I found a few more spots for small stuff but nothing as good as this, and by moving west a bit it can cope with a more westerly stream.

I did try the side of the bay you have marked, but access is nowhere near as good and parking quite poor.

I found potentially a great place at Foreland above Sandown, but they have currently closed the whole area off due to landslides and even totally closed a large part of the coastal path, pity as the lift when I was there seemed silky smooth and parking and access would have been OK.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Bad Raven on October 30, 2014, 18:23:31 PM
And from the road..................

(http://www.atomic-album.com/showPic.php/22727/Freshwater2.jpg)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on November 01, 2014, 00:21:43 AM
Weather is looking quite OK for today, SW Force 3 at Thurnham, but if you don't fancy braving the showers tomorrow (Sunday), then Medway MFC is holding the first of their winter indoor sessions at Gillingham from 10am to 3pm.
http://www.doddington-kent.org.uk/MMFC/images/forum_images/indoor_flying_notice_main.jpg (http://www.doddington-kent.org.uk/MMFC/images/forum_images/indoor_flying_notice_main.jpg)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on November 01, 2014, 20:19:36 PM
I didn't have much free time today but I went to Colley Hill for a quick fly ... except that I left the tx at home - doh! What a plonker!

A couple of guys were flying foamies, it looked like conditions were good.


Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on November 02, 2014, 06:40:08 AM
I feel your pain Gary - I did the same thing and left the incidence pin behind for my ASG.
Lovely day at Thurnham despite that and an understandably great turnout.

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: JohnP on November 02, 2014, 11:22:50 AM
I didn't have much free time today but I went to Colley Hill for a quick fly ... except that I left the tx at home - doh! What a plonker!

D'Oh!! At least you'd only gone to Colley, not further afield!  ::)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on November 03, 2014, 20:34:54 PM
Plenty of servos in the starboard wing of this Air Canada Boeing 777-300 that I flew in from Toronto to Heathroww last month - I bet they weren't Giant Shark £5 Specials!
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As it was blowing a hooly yesterday, I decided to visit Medway MFC's Indoor meeting at the Sports Centre in Gillingham, with Charlie joining me later in the day.

The hall was split into three sections, half for fixed wing r/c, one quarter for quadcopters and helis and the remaining quarter for free flight. The fixed wing r/c area alternated between between 3D and normal fixed wing models. All disciplines kept to their designated zones and I only saw one mid-air during the whole day and that was between two fixed wing r/c models. There was a good tunout with approximately 50 flyers taking part, but it wasn't at all crowded.

There was the usual raffle and I won a David Boddington book on 'Almost Ready To Fly Aircraft' which I think will end up being a Christmas present for a young budding aeromodeller amongst my relatives.

Next meeting is 14th December so if slope flying is not possible that day, then you might enjoy a change of scene for a few hours.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on November 04, 2014, 18:07:05 PM
I know I'm ridiculous, but for some reason I feel a bit ill at ease when one of the faithful flirts with another discipline like indoor flying or quadcopters!!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on November 04, 2014, 21:34:29 PM
I agree Gary.  I was introduced to the "quad habit" and thought I could handle it at first - come to think of it it all started when Eric introduced me to some of his "indoor" friends...
Luckily with careful counselling and the long term support of the outdoors non powered variety I am back on the straight and narrow!

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on November 05, 2014, 22:20:36 PM
Don't get concerned Gary, I'm not going to change from my favourite form of model flying. I've finally learned how to fly slope soarers after 50 years of trying, so I'm not going to pack up now!  ;)  See my Reply #707. Maybe I'm a masochist but I do enjoy slope soaring most when conditions are marginal.   ;D

I've always enjoyed all forms of model flying, hence my visits to the BMFA Nats and the local indoor meetings to check on the latest goings on. In fact, anything that flys always grabs my attention.

I asked my son to buy me my first helicopter for Christmas a couple of years ago as I wanted a challenge and also at my age I need a means of keeping my grey matter working with plenty of hand-eye cooordination tasks, although flying my 28 pound 5.4 metre 1/3rd scale Fox certainly does that as well.

I'm sure that many of our sloping companions have a little helicopter at home that they fly around the lounge to annoy her indoors when she is watching TV - I know for a fact that Si has one in addition to his quadcopter, which incidently he flys to entertain his equine friend! (There's a fascinating video of the pair of them somewhere on YouTube but I couldn't find it).

PS - Charlie was quite taken with one of the shockfliers on Sunday, so don't be surprised if you see him flying one on a calm day at Thurnham!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: JohnP on November 05, 2014, 22:33:06 PM
I'm sure that many of our sloping companions have a little helicopter at home...

I've been an aeromodeller for longer than I care to admit,  but only ventured onto the slopes in the last 5 or so years.  One thing that made me realise there was more to slope soaring than I thought at the time was the realisation that one of the posters on here (not a frequent poster these days,  but he was back then) was actually one of the 3D-heli flyers at my club.  Clearly there was more to this sloping lark than I realised if it held the interest of a manic heli-flyer!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on November 05, 2014, 23:54:40 PM
...  Clearly there was more to this sloping lark than I realised if it held the interest of a manic heli-flyer!

Yes, I have also often thought that our side of the hobby attracts more than a fair percentage of rotary wing fliers from the power flying side.

Never been tempted into rotary wing flying myself really (although I have had a 'go' on my son's helis) - but I have an i/c fixed wing flying boat model that gets an airing every couple of years, or so, when both the lake is accessible and I have a spare few hours on a Saturday morning in the winter months.

Had a couple of goes with rc i/c fixed wing models from land, but neither held enough entertainment to inspire the necessary subsequent repairs!

One day I want to have a go at F3B (winch launch multitasking) and F5B (electric gliding on steroids) but the Essex flatfield gliding competition formats which are currently run (Bartletts, F5J, Multi-Launch) are still exciting me enough to prevent me from progressing to formats that are not (presently) catered for locally.

Sorry for rambling there.

Jef
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on November 07, 2014, 07:34:29 AM
I really feel the need for a Thurnham fix today - does anyone's seaweed suggest this is possible (given up on forecasting sites!)

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on November 07, 2014, 08:03:27 AM
I really feel the need for a Thurnham fix today - does anyone's seaweed suggest this is possible (given up on forecasting sites!)

Si

The stirring in my loins suggests an after lunch session could be the way to go.....
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on November 07, 2014, 10:07:11 AM
www.yr.no (http://www.yr.no) seems to agree with Paul's loins  ;), so I'll see you guys there after lunch.  :af

http://www.yr.no/place/United_Kingdom/England/Thurnham~7295885/hour_by_hour.html (http://www.yr.no/place/United_Kingdom/England/Thurnham~7295885/hour_by_hour.html)

Check the wetness forecast for Maidstone here - http://www.raintoday.co.uk/ (http://www.raintoday.co.uk/) - click the Forecast Ahead button for a pretty reliable warning of likely precipitation.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on November 07, 2014, 10:46:07 AM
I might be able to sneak out for a few hours later. Sunday looking light but doable also...if I can get out of going to a toddlers birthday party :(
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on November 09, 2014, 16:38:53 PM
Excellent session at Thurnham today enjoyed from 10am to 3pm by Mark and me and four short term visitors.

The wind gradually picked up throughout the day with some bird-indicated thermal activity before noon. However when the birds disappeared for lunch, it was up to me with my Cularis to show Mark where the lift was before he dared to launch his 7 metre Nimbus.

Mark's first landing attempt resulted in the longest 'touch and go' I have ever seen - he had to 'go' otherwise the Nimbus would have ended up sliding into the fence - we'll have to call him 'Cool Fingers Mark' in future.

We ended the afternoon sitting in the sunshine and a warm breeze watching the paragliders trying to get airborne - much, much warmer than Friday's session.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on November 09, 2014, 17:44:50 PM
Proper flying conditions, v little slope lift and we had to use whatever upward moving warm air that gently blew through with kid gloves. And I left my vario at home so it was just like the old days!

A bit foolhardy flying the big Nimbus but all was well. Eric's Cularis went well and he only used the fan early in the day when the conditions were sketchy!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on November 09, 2014, 20:11:26 PM
I stopped off at about 4ish and scratched around in the 3mph southerly. Still not sure quite what kept me airborne, but suffice to say that at no point did my altitude exceed 6ft above takeoff height!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: David M on November 10, 2014, 20:13:04 PM
Skill and experience mate.... ;)

There were only the 4 of us to enjoy the best of Holly on Saturday, unlimited smooth lift. I managed to shear the tail from my cherished Blob after an hour's flight on a less than skillful and experienced landing..! I've got to try and find some glue indoors for it now, also replace the years old HS101 that got killed...... >:(
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Bob Ryan on November 11, 2014, 14:43:55 PM
Skill and experience mate.... ;)

There were only the 4 of us to enjoy the best of Holly on Saturday, unlimited smooth lift. I managed to shear the tail from my cherished Blob after an hour's flight on a less than skillful and experienced landing..! I've got to try and find some glue indoors for it now, also replace the years old HS101 that got killed...... >:(
I only had my Insect with me on Saturday but the lift was epic. I have to say that when the lift is good at Holly Hill it is very good. I had a great time blasting through at low level and recovering almost instantly the a great hight.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on November 13, 2014, 21:44:48 PM
Saturday morning is looking good for Hadleigh Castle. :uk:

Haven't flown there for many months.

Think the weather tomorrow will cure any dust problems!

Jef
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on November 14, 2014, 10:13:26 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAIbquWahTY
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Paul.GT on November 14, 2014, 19:39:36 PM
anyone know where I can get some servo covers like this please
Thanks in advance .....
 (http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e200/blaze219/servocoer_zps6f386401.png) (http://s39.photobucket.com/user/blaze219/media/servocoer_zps6f386401.png.html)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Rob Thomson on November 14, 2014, 21:08:45 PM
Those look much like what comes with the models from r2hobbies.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Paul.GT on November 14, 2014, 21:35:01 PM
Well spotted Rob from a speedo that im doing up..
Once the Typhoon is fixed I maybe on your back to help me setup that tx with opentx  if possible ;-)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: JohnP on November 15, 2014, 09:56:59 AM
Well spotted Rob from a speedo that im doing up..

LOL,  if anybody knows about Speedos, then Rob does...  ;D
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Rob Thomson on November 15, 2014, 10:33:44 AM
Well spotted Rob from a speedo that im doing up..
Once the Typhoon is fixed I maybe on your back to help me setup that tx with opentx  if possible ;-)
No problem.   

I dont have any of the speedo wing covers left. In fact have very few of them left!

If you are really after them - ask borris from r2.  He is sure to have some.

Rob
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Paul.GT on November 15, 2014, 13:16:59 PM
Thanks Rob , I'm going to glue the servos in with hot glue and some balsa supports 👍.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Davetronic on November 18, 2014, 10:44:20 AM
Finally found why my PMP Rampage was so difficult to fly. Seems one of the Hitec HS81MG aileron servos would centre then move several millimetres up or down and then only centre again when it felt like it, which explains the weird handling as there is only 6mm max movement anyway. Google tells me this is a common problem with these servos, so can anyone advise a cheap replacement of similar size? Cheers
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on November 18, 2014, 12:10:11 PM
Personally I have found the MG90 and MG16R TowerPro to be very good Dave and they are cheap as chips at £6-7
http://www.giantshark.co.uk/product/168008/towerpro-mg16r-188g-27kgs-torque-digital-metal-geared (http://www.giantshark.co.uk/product/168008/towerpro-mg16r-188g-27kgs-torque-digital-metal-geared)

Regards

Simon
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Rob Thomson on November 18, 2014, 12:54:47 PM
Agreed.

I also am a huge fan of the turnigy 929MG and 949MG.  Always worked well for me.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on November 18, 2014, 13:00:03 PM
LOL,  if anybody knows about Speedos, then Rob does...  ;D

I just REALLY hope that is the glider and not bathing suits!....

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: JohnP on November 18, 2014, 20:09:19 PM
I just REALLY hope that is the glider and not bathing suits!....

It's OK,  it hadn't even occurred to me that there could be any other interpretation!   :''

I bought a Speedo a few years back and took it to Colley Hill for it's maiden flight.  Some bloke I'd never met before asked where I'd got it from.  I replied that it was from from "some UK supplier, whose name I couldn't recall"  He asked if it was Slopeside, and I agreed it was.  He then introduced himself as Rob - aka "Mr. Slopeside". 

So,  maiden flight in front of the UK-importer...  No pressure there then!   ;D
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Paul.GT on November 19, 2014, 10:18:41 AM
I just REALLY hope that is the glider and not bathing suits!....

Si
Couldn't see myself in Speedo's somehow Simon..... :af
How is the Thurnham massive haven't seen them for about 2 years hope everybody is fighting fit down there....
Have brought a smaller car so I can get flying again..hope to see you soon.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on November 19, 2014, 15:12:19 PM
All good here Paul - although the wind hasn't been playing ball for a while so we are hoping for a fix this weekend.  It'll be good to see you here...

Simon
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Paul.GT on November 19, 2014, 21:58:47 PM
Won't get new secondhand car until nxt wk so I should have at least a wildthing and speedo to play with then. So can't come flying for at least another 1/12-2wks😡
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Paul.GT on November 20, 2014, 19:50:04 PM
Can someone give me the COG 48" SAS wildthing Please..
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Rob Thomson on November 20, 2014, 20:59:48 PM
2 seconds on google...

http://www.freewebs.com/sasepp/Wildthing%2046.htm (http://www.freewebs.com/sasepp/Wildthing%2046.htm)

In the manual.

BALANCE POINT 4 3/4" TO 5" - from leading edge
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on November 20, 2014, 21:20:06 PM
Anyone been getting some lately?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Paul.GT on November 20, 2014, 22:36:12 PM
2 seconds on google...

[url]http://www.freewebs.com/sasepp/Wildthing%2046.htm[/url] ([url]http://www.freewebs.com/sasepp/Wildthing%2046.htm[/url])

In the manual.

BALANCE POINT 4 3/4" TO 5" - from leading edge

I tryed to get on there earlier but I kept get kicked off 👍
Thanks Rob .
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on November 20, 2014, 22:48:02 PM
Anyone been getting some lately?

I have a hand job in the car and get some every lunch time!

(DLG that is).

:)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on November 26, 2014, 10:45:34 AM
Anyone been getting some lately?
. . . not getting any flying in either!  >:(
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on November 26, 2014, 12:25:06 PM
Sat/Sun looking possible for Bo Peep.

Sat - lighter wind/sunnier/warmer tho may be a bit more ENE
Sun - stronger NE blow/colder and more cloud
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on November 26, 2014, 21:18:46 PM
As of tomorrow I am on holiday until 2015 (sounds a long time when you put it like that!)

Hopefully there must be some flying days in that time - hopefully maidening my "new" Paritech Nimbus?!

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Bob Ryan on November 27, 2014, 07:24:06 AM
Si, keep us informed, i'd like to see the Nimbus maiden, or any other time for that matter.
Bob
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on November 27, 2014, 10:11:35 AM
No problem Bob - might be South Downs rather than Thurnham for the comfort factor!

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on November 28, 2014, 16:14:53 PM
Sat - Sunny and East
Sun - Cloudy and North...and a lot lighter than two days ago.
Perhaps it'll change again?!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on November 28, 2014, 17:46:56 PM
Weird isn't it? I seem to have had a long run of bad luck on flying conditions.

When I'm available, there's no wind.

When I'm not available, there's wind. 

Actually, come to think of it, even when I'm not available the conditions haven't been great!  I think it's just been a weird run of poor flying weather ... we need to think of a hobby that is good in windstill drizzle ...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on November 28, 2014, 18:18:31 PM
Actually, come to think of it, even when I'm not available the conditions haven't been great!  I think it's just been a weird run of poor flying weather ... we need to think of a hobby that is good in windstill drizzle ...

Darts....good hand/eye co-ordination training!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on November 30, 2014, 20:31:38 PM
Hooray! - We finally got a nice day's flying today by visiting Firle Beacon.
The day started off foggy, but it cleared at about 11:30 am and gave us some pleasant conditions for three or four hours.
There were three of us from Kent/Surrey and three part-time from Essex and no other modellers at all.
The lift was good with Simon flying his 'small' 5 metre ASG29 and Luna, and Mark his 6.5 metre Nimbus.
I had my ASH 26 with me but didn't fly it owing to a bit of 'senior moment finger trouble' with the Tx settings so I flew the Cularis instead.
There were also about 15-20 para and hang gliders on the slope but we weren't seriously troubled by them. I think the presence and noise of Mark's big Nimbus at speed kept them at bay.
Simon also took the opportunity to relax in his chair in the sun to sleep off the previous evening's effects of too much 'falling down liquid'.  ;)
A good day was had by all.  :af
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on November 30, 2014, 22:55:04 PM
My son and I were at Bo Peep from 9.15am until about 1pm.

Maiden went reasonably well for my Fox at Bo Peep, but an "oh crikey, where's the lift gone?" downwind arrival at the slope knackered the main undercart. This did not deter a second flight and the trim changes made for a smoother flight with a landing into a patch of long grass with the brakes on, into wind.

Then we went to Devil's Dyke, where the conditions were far more supportive for our FlyFly Foxes.

We had not seen them both in the air at the same time, and Marc launched for us both and we had that pleasure for a fairly long time, until the cold just got too much for us!

We both got lucky with landings there though, both of us surprised by the speed of descent at the back of the slope, and still making the smoothest grass to land on.

 :af
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: MPH on December 01, 2014, 19:52:23 PM
Much fun was had at Butts Brow yesterday too, here's the drone footage from the day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxJMmDgfRSE&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxJMmDgfRSE&feature=youtu.be)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on December 02, 2014, 20:51:16 PM
Phone photo of my Fox added to post #830.

What great value for money FlyFly models represent. Well chuffed, despite the weak undercarriage.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Paul.GT on December 03, 2014, 15:17:52 PM
Anyone Flying this week  Kent area  :af
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on December 03, 2014, 16:14:52 PM
It doesn't look promising from a wind direction perspective for Kent this week Paul.... >:(

Saturday might be South Downs-able though   :af

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Paul.GT on December 03, 2014, 17:09:17 PM
It doesn't look promising from a wind direction perspective for Kent this week Paul.... >:(

Saturday might be South Downs-able though   :af

Si
Thnx SI ,just wanna go out  :banghead:
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Bob Ryan on December 04, 2014, 08:07:33 AM
Slight change of subject: I had a phone call from Charley Johnson yesterday. He asked me to go with him to maiden his new Fox at Minter Cliffs. I dont think I have ever flown there before. After assembling the Fox and my Insect we did the usual pre-flight checks and double checks before heading to the launch area. Charley is going on holiday today so wanted to test it before he goes. Suffice it to say he is going on his Hols a very happy man. It flew really well.
I have to say that the lift at Minster was really good and I will delinately go there any time the wind is in the Northeast.
One observtion I noted was there were some thermals coming through as even the Seagulls were following them back behind us. How does that happen over the sea, any ideas?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on December 04, 2014, 08:46:14 AM
I'll speculate that the water doesn't heat up in a uniform manner Bob. What with differing currents and depths, there'll be some areas that are warmer than others. Add into the mix that the sea is still holding some of its heat from the summer and that the air above it is very cold....I'm guessing you don't need much of a temperature difference to create those buoyant bubbles of air!...that's my guess on it anyway.

I remember a couple of years ago flying at Beachy Head during the winter and we could see columns of circling seagulls working sea thermals. The sea was relatively calm and at the base of each thermal you could see a distinct circular disturbance on the water.

Congrats to Charlie on the maiden!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on December 04, 2014, 09:21:50 AM
I also remember that a couple of years ago Simon Thornton reported a similar occurrence when he was flying at Botany Bay and people at the time wouldn't believe that it had happened. I'm pleased that you have been able to confirm his experience.

Looks like it's going to be a Foxy winter - Charlie's, JefO's, Simon's and mine. Any more out there? Get them all in the air together and it will look great . . . or confusing!  ;D

Excellent that you've finally found Minster Cliffs, Bob! Smooth air that last crossed land over Norway or Denmark!
I've been flying there since 1973, although up until 2009 I was flying there billy-no-mates - it was quite a lonely existence until the Thurnham crowd turned up! :af
Enjoy!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Nicholls on December 04, 2014, 09:50:39 AM
"Thermals over the sea maybe different winds interacting"

I just happen to be reading on my Kindle "On being a Bird" by Phillip Wills published in 1953 to quote

We climbed thankfully to 3,800 feet, and then made no bones about it by fairly bolting downwind for the sea.
Between Bridport and Lyme Regis was the same belt of coastal lift

- formed from one to three miles out to sea by a south-easterly sea breeze under-cutting the north-easter.

 In this way we flew fast along the coast, over the blue sea, past Seaton, Babbacombe, Sidmouth, to Exmouth. Here the same strong thermal took us up to 5,500 feet,
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Bob Ryan on December 04, 2014, 12:07:20 PM
Thank you all for the reply. They say you learn something new every day and I certainly have today. Very interesting.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on December 04, 2014, 13:02:43 PM
The north coast of the Devon & Cornwall peninsula gets the additional benefit of the Gulf Stream, ok it does create a lot of rain during the winter months but also some excellent buoyant air...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on December 04, 2014, 17:36:25 PM
Eric makes a good point... there are 3 Foxes in my hangar (one mine, two my son's). How about a Fox day at Thurnham next time a weekend and a SW coincide?

Or maybe, with a bit of luck, in the bit between Christmas and the New Year?

Soup and BBQ food might be a great idea too!

Jef
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Nicholls on December 04, 2014, 22:28:37 PM
I haven't got a fox but if I come along what head gear do I need?

Or is this the answer?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb0kiiB3O-o (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb0kiiB3O-o)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on December 05, 2014, 00:00:22 AM
Ian, some of the older modellers may well still have a Davey Crockettt hat that you can borrow - that'll do!  ;D
I used to have one when I was a boy, but for some reason when we emigrated to Canada I didn't take it with me.
My Mum chucked it away like she did with many of my toys, which is, I've been told, the reason why I'm a bit of a hoarder, hence the number of models in my attic.

Back to slope soaring - I came across this video of Slope Glide 2013 held at the Hole of Horcum and features that well known Sussex F3F man, John Phillips.
The video shows how the top guys fly F3F and gives you an insight into what it's all about if you fancy doing it.
I flew at the 'Hole' back in 1969 when I was doing a tour of slope soaring sites 'Up North'.
It's a cracking site so if you are ever up that way take the opportunity to give one of your models some air there.

http://vimeo.com/72008675 (http://vimeo.com/72008675)
We are going flying on the north slope of the Long Man slope tomorrow (Friday) and as the last time i climbed up there was about 40 years ago, I might find it a bit more of an effort this time. I'll leave Simon and Paul to yomp on ahead and I'll take it at my own pace. If I don't make it back alive, it's been great knowing you all!  ;)  :af
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on December 05, 2014, 07:33:38 AM
Have a good one at Long Man today. I can't get off work, but soon ...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on December 05, 2014, 12:14:53 PM
We are going flying on the north slope of the Long Man slope tomorrow (Friday) and as the last time i climbed up there was about 40 years ago, I might find it a bit more of an effort this time. I'll leave Simon and Paul to yomp on ahead and I'll take it at my own pace. If I don't make it back alive, it's been great knowing you all!  ;)  :af

I'm guessing the trek up Long Man will be for a paraglider avoidance reason?!  ;D
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on December 05, 2014, 19:50:44 PM
We decided to check out Firle first and once up there decided to stay as the wind was very light and didn't want to climb all the way up to the north face of the Long Man to find it wasn't flyable.

We flew from our normal location in a light north westerly. The lift kept coming and going which meant flying very carefully at times but luckly no one landed out. I only had to make a 'dirty dash' landing once when the lift failed. Unfortunately there was insufficient lift for Simon to fly his ASG29 and he had to make do with the Luna.

Not an epic day with the South Downs failing us on this occasion - when will we get a decent blow in the right direction?
Only two paragliders were on the hill all day.

Paul's ASW27 being launched by Simon
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My ASH27 after another successful flight.
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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on December 06, 2014, 09:39:26 AM
Well done for getting out and having a go!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on December 07, 2014, 18:23:22 PM
oh dear....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-30369701 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-30369701)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: RobtArm on December 08, 2014, 15:13:41 PM
I have thought for some time that multicopter drones are the biggest potential threat to our hobby.  Especially now that they can fly themselves around GPS coords. Just a typo away from am accident....
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on December 08, 2014, 19:04:35 PM
..Just a typo away from am accident....

 ;D
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on December 09, 2014, 17:27:47 PM
My local slope, Hadleigh Castle, needs a southerly. It isn't a big slope, so a strong blow is quite handy.

A forecast breeze of 15 - 20mph SSW, and a day booked off work (so that I could see my grandson's Nativity play), coincided today, so when I got home just after lunchtime, the batteries were charged up and waiting for me.

So I went to the site, dubious of the actual weather conditions - there was not enough of a breeze to move the local flag...

But the slope had a 4mph constant flow of air, and the old faithful Calypso Contest made the best of that. Enough lift for a few aerobatics here and there, but my fingers were flippin' cold and I had to pack up after 45 minutes in the air.

I have a Tx mitt, but that is not practical as I fly alone and launch for myself (right-handed, Mode 1 flier).

I have tried gloves, but when using them while launching have often got the towhook stuck in the glove, between the forefinger and thumb.

So, what is the answer?

Have been thinking about making a Tx tray with some form of wind-shield to protect the hands. Has anyone already done this?

Jef


   
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: RobtArm on December 09, 2014, 18:52:05 PM
Glad someone got it ;D
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on December 09, 2014, 20:25:56 PM
I have a Tx mitt, but that is not practical as I fly alone and launch for myself (right-handed, Mode 1 flier).
I have tried gloves, but when using them while launching have often got the towhook stuck in the glove, between the forefinger and thumb.
So, what is the answer?
Have been thinking about making a Tx tray with some form of wind-shield to protect the hands. Has anyone already done this?
Jef
Hi Jef,

I normally fly with a pair of thin woollen gloves which give me enough feel of the sticks to fly OK and keep my hands warm. I don't have a tow hook on most of my models so I don't have the problem you describe. However why not temporarily cover the hook with some duct tape to smooth its profile and any part that you might catch your glove on.

When it gets a bit colder, I have a tranny muff for my Robbe FC18 console Tx and fly Mode 2 which needs my right hand for primary controls. However I also launch with my right hand, so to make sure I am able to quickly get my hand onto the stick, I have fitted a circular stiff plastic liner inside the right hand hole in the muff to hold it fully open. With this in place it is quick and easy to get my right hand thumb on the stick straight after launch - simples! Sometimes I launch with my left hand but that is not my preferred method when the wind gets a bit stronger.

When I use my Spectrum Tx in cold weather, I use a commercial TX tray which has a clear plastic half-hemisphere bubble fitted to it, much like the old Bell helicopter, and which completely cuts out off the wind - even more 'simples' as the back is open so you can easily and quickly get both hands onto the sticks if you need a two-handed launch.

Both of the above options require you to use a neck strap to fully support the muff or tray at two points.

Hope this helps.

Eric
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on December 09, 2014, 20:46:18 PM
Any chance of photos of the systems that you describe, please, Eric?

Thank you.

Jef
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on December 10, 2014, 16:36:24 PM
Just had a nice (albeit chilly) session up at Thurnham with paul and others - lovely sunset and mostly good lift.  I think that might be it for a while for me, unless conditions look more promising than the forecasts...

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on December 13, 2014, 19:16:54 PM
Any chance of photos of the systems that you describe, please, Eric?
Thank you.
Jef
I'll take some when I'm on the slope tomorrow Jef.
Cheers, Eric
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on December 14, 2014, 19:55:21 PM
A good session at Thurnham today - light winds to start with gradually increasing enough to enable Simon to successfully and impressively maiden his 7 metre Paritech Nimbus 4DM later in the day - well done Si! . . .and well done Mark for launching the 10+ kg monster.

A few photos from the day.

General view of the model 'compound'.
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Simon's Nimbus 4DM
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Four of the Thurnham Massive suitably dressed for the chilly conditions
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Another general view with Mark's 6.6 metre Nimbus 4 in the foreground - he's envious of Simon's extra 400mm!
[attachimg=4]

Charlie's lovely Top Model Ecotop MDM-1 Fox
[attachimg=5]
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Weds on December 14, 2014, 23:36:37 PM
Mark launching the Nimbus at Thurnham today

(http://[attachimg=1])
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Bob Ryan on December 15, 2014, 13:56:04 PM
Here is a pic of the most important part of the flight. Also of Alam's new steed.[attachimg=1][attachimg=2]
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on December 15, 2014, 18:34:54 PM
Nice looking model, the Fox, that Charlie has -

http://www.topmodel.fr/en/product-detail-17423-mdm-1-fox-274m-arf (http://www.topmodel.fr/en/product-detail-17423-mdm-1-fox-274m-arf)

Did you get any pics of the tx tray / mitt systems Eric?

Jef
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on December 17, 2014, 17:33:57 PM
I'm thinking of heading up to Thurnham again tomorrow (Thursday) if any launchers are available (Paul won't be able to get there until about 2pm and I will be there from 10ish

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on December 17, 2014, 19:55:21 PM
I can't get there until about 2pm either and I'd only be there for photographic duties anyway!

Video of the 1st and 2nd flights soon to be on YouTube.  :af
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on December 17, 2014, 20:36:55 PM
Can't make it either...last day at work and we've an exciting program of training devised by a bored management :(
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on December 18, 2014, 06:59:35 AM
Rats!  Sounds like a solo launch attempt?!.....

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on December 18, 2014, 08:02:41 AM
Can't make it today, work is crazy busy ... Sunday is the shortest day of the year, might have to have a Sunday lunchtime fly just to prove the winter doesn't beat me ...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on December 18, 2014, 08:09:14 AM
We need you to get that Duo Discus out Gary so we can have two Paritech Duo's in the air at the same time...

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on December 18, 2014, 08:21:16 AM
Rats!  Sounds like a solo launch attempt?!.....
Si

If Mark can do it I'm sure that you can Si. . . . but then his is a tiddler with 400mm less wingspan than yours.  :af

If you are going to self launch Si, a tip that I found that helps me is to put a strap around my waist from one Tx support to the other. This stops the tranny from swinging about when you are running to launch the model, and it keeps the Tx securely in place on your waist so that you know it will be there where you want it to be, rather than round your back as happened to you a few years ago.  :xx

Best of luck with your launch and keep it in one piece until I arrive with the camera.

Eric.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on December 18, 2014, 09:14:33 AM
Charlie and Graham are going to be up there so going solo isn't going to be necessary.  However, looking at the dull drizzly weather I might decide not to go today anyway and carry on with making the interior instead...

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on December 18, 2014, 22:07:11 PM
Did you get any pics of the tx tray / mitt systems Eric?
Jef
Tranny mitt
Sorry about the delay Jef - here are the pictures of my M and M Developments Maxi-Mitt with the plastic spacer fitted in the right-hand opening. The company doesn't appear to have a website but its phone number is 01633 413375.

Maxi-mitt with my Robbe FC-18 inside
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Mitt with hard plastic spacer alongside
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Mitt with spacer partially inserted and velcro retainer showing
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Mitt with spacer fully inserted
[attach=4]

View through the right-hand opening - plenty of room to quickly get your hand back on the stick
[attach=5]

I don't presently have the commercial tray with the clear plastic quarter-sphere attached, but should have it available again at the weekend when I'll take the photos.

I also have a windshield/cover which attaches to a tray for the FC-18 both of which are brand new still in the box.
These are surplus to my requirements so I'll be putting these on ebay shortly, unless anyone locally wants them.


Si - Arrived at Thurnham at 2:30pm and met AlanT who updated me.
Yes, it was a bit murky and muddy as well so I don't blame you for staying in your workshop.
Sunday is looking a bit more promising.

Cheers, Eric

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on December 19, 2014, 10:56:00 AM
Sunday looking the best bet for flying now and I have a neighbours lunchtime Xmas drinks thing I have to go to, so I'll only be able to get up there early and leave by 11:30 latest.

Eric, do you want to post that raw footage on Windows shared drive thingy and I can have a go at editing?

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on December 20, 2014, 11:00:16 AM
Eric sent me the raw footage of my Nimbus' maiden flight after the repair.  Unfortunately there was no footage of the loops and roll but at least it has got the maiden out of the way and she flew beautifully despite the conditions.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XF1S6UbQiQM

More fun with her on Sunday hopefully!


Simon
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on December 20, 2014, 11:54:55 AM
Sorry about the dodgy footage but I was filming with a camera without a decent viewfinder. I'll try harder tomorrow.  :''
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Nicholls on December 20, 2014, 13:31:05 PM
Your old mates Rob and me will be coming to Thurnham tomorrow if you could please confirm wind strength and direction is good
Thanks
Ian :o.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on December 20, 2014, 16:35:15 PM
Hi to you both,

Good to hear that you are making the trek to our little bump.
Wind will be SW-WSW 11 to 17mph, Force 3-4 in old money - direction spot on for this slope although a notch more blow would be preferable, but it will be sufficient.
It is a bit muddy at the launch point so come prepared.
As some of us are getting on in years, i.e. me, we have our picnic chairs with us, but of course you already do that already don't you.
Simon and I will be there from about 9:30am - Si will have his 7 metre Nimbus 4 and I'll have my ASH 26.
Paul will be there as well with his ASW27 and Mark will have the biggest he can dig out as he is having a bout of wingspan envy at present.  ;)
Looking forward to seeing you guys again.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Nicholls on December 20, 2014, 17:12:14 PM
Thanks, Rob's driving so I'll get out the hip flask just like the old days!
Cheers
Ian :uk:
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on December 21, 2014, 16:42:21 PM
Great to see the Thurnham Massive out today. Quite a mild day for the Winter Solstice ... but still a bit bitter in the wind. Excellent lift - amazing that such a small hill can work so well - WSW winds +/- 20mph must be the magic sweet spot conditions for Thurnham.
Have a great Christmas everyone, here's to getting in more flying days in 2015.


Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on December 21, 2014, 17:00:39 PM
Lovely morning at Thurnham - sorry I had to leave early to go to my Xmas drinks thingy, still i had a nice time there too and drank champagne for 4 straight hours - feeling a bit whoozy now!

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on December 21, 2014, 17:05:48 PM
Good to see you out on the slope today Gary - you finally made it!
Your PrismaRay flew impressively as usual, and thanks for posting the photos of it and those who were left braving the chilly Force 5 wind and the head on view of my ASH26.

Simon's Nimbus launched by Paul (fueled by three Shredded Wheat), flew three times and I can report that Si is very happy with it.
Now it's in his preferred flying trim, he'll be busy bringing up to his usual high standard of finish both externally and internally in the cockpit . . . and it rolls. :D  If it didn't Simon would have had to move it on!  ;)

I managed to fly until sunset at the Summer Solstice but I definitely wasn't going to hang about waiting for it today, the Winter Solstice - its back in front of the fire with a glass of falling down liquid for me! Cheers Simon!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Nicholls on December 21, 2014, 19:24:41 PM
After the trauma of getting our weatherproofs on both Rob and I were exhausted but having recovered we thoroughly enjoyed our time at Thurnham. We met more flyers we knew than expected and were introduced to some of "the massive" we didn't.
.
Here's to the next time!
Ian
 
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: BLADE1 on December 22, 2014, 18:57:06 PM
Congrats on the maiden Simon :af. Are they new winglets from paritech? Did you remove both formers I put in?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on December 23, 2014, 09:03:48 AM
Thanks Paul.  Yes I had to remove both formers to be able to fit in the wheel retract and scale interior, but I added more kevlar type cloth in the front of the fuz and carbon rod anti crush bits.

(http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee324/swarrans/Nimbus/P1010868_zps20f8de18.jpg) (http://s532.photobucket.com/user/swarrans/media/Nimbus/P1010868_zps20f8de18.jpg.html)

Yes, new winglets from Paritech and in the end I bought a new RHS outer panel too because on close examination I thought repairing the Herex foam/glass sandwich of the damaged one would always be compromised and I wanted to avoid any risk of it breaking up in flight!

When the weather improves and I can paint the fuz she is going to look fabulous!

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on December 23, 2014, 15:56:40 PM
Great work.

I had to buy new winglets for mine because they're very light hollow glass fibre with no internal support at all, and they fold the minute you breathe on them.

I've also had trouble with the very light hollow tailplane having insufficient strengthening where the bolts go through to attach it to the tail fin. I guess they want to build these parts ultra light rather than strong. But they don't seem up to the demands of slope soaring ... more suited to sitting cradled in a garage and being taken out once a year for one very timid aerotow flight!

Or maybe I'm just a putz who is not careful enough with my planes ...


Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on December 24, 2014, 22:01:52 PM
Merry Christmas to all the South East Flyers.

Hope you get what you need to make the rest of us all jealous!

Love, Peace, Thermals and Hoolies!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: jonniebgood on December 25, 2014, 08:37:55 AM
As in finding a young Thai bride???  ;)

A Happy Christmas to one and all.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on December 26, 2014, 10:19:25 AM
Well thank Gawd that's over!

Despite all the cooking etc I found time to knock up a bit more of the scale interior for the Nimbus

(http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee324/swarrans/Nimbus/P1010884_zpscf3410e7.jpg) (http://s532.photobucket.com/user/swarrans/media/Nimbus/P1010884_zpscf3410e7.jpg.html)

(http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee324/swarrans/Nimbus/P1010885_zpsd2a28104.jpg) (http://s532.photobucket.com/user/swarrans/media/Nimbus/P1010885_zpsd2a28104.jpg.html)

(http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee324/swarrans/Nimbus/P1010887_zpseb06293d.jpg) (http://s532.photobucket.com/user/swarrans/media/Nimbus/P1010887_zpseb06293d.jpg.html)

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on December 27, 2014, 17:42:54 PM
Tomorrow (Sunday) looks like being excellent conditions for Bopeep ... except it's going to be so flipping cold, it will feel below zero all day with the wind chill factor ... I want to go but maybe that would just be foolhardy ...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Allen the soarer on December 27, 2014, 22:35:58 PM
I have not been flying for ages but hope to get up Bopeep Sunday  :xx
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on December 27, 2014, 22:58:43 PM
Will be there too...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on December 27, 2014, 23:20:22 PM
Me too!....

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: tilmanb on December 28, 2014, 13:36:12 PM
Oh crap. Looking at the beautiful sky I regret that I did not get my stuff ready yesterday.
Even if I really hurry up I can't make it down to Bopeep today.
But I can promise some mid-week flying...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: heffone on December 28, 2014, 16:33:40 PM
Big lift at Bopeep with a full size display. One cheeky chap cut his throttle and tried to slope soar .
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: peter_burgess on December 28, 2014, 17:03:40 PM
Lovely day at Bopeep, good weather, good flying and good company. What more could you want?

PS I've found out about the flying display  :co
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on December 28, 2014, 19:07:17 PM
Now that's more like it! A properly good flying day! Big lift, sunshine, good company.

I suggested to Simon that he should do a low, close pass with the big Fox, and he most certainly did:

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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on December 28, 2014, 19:11:33 PM
Look at that sunlit plane, it's like we were slope soaring in the Bahamas or something! ... except perhaps a tiny fraction colder ...

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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on December 28, 2014, 19:16:23 PM
I found myself lusting after John's needle ... and that's not something I admit to often ...

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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on December 28, 2014, 19:23:50 PM
Allen put on a fantastic flying display with his Alpina despite the fact that he was standing half a mile away at the time.

(Allen, I think  you should stand in the distance more often.)

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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on December 28, 2014, 19:29:04 PM
Mark gave Simon a proper manly toss.

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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on December 28, 2014, 19:33:28 PM
In fact he did it so hard his arm fell off

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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on December 29, 2014, 06:50:55 AM
Fabulous quality photos Gary - that combo of your skills and a great camera certainly produces results

What a truly great day

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on December 30, 2014, 09:44:37 AM
Shame I couldn't make it down south with you guys on Sunday - family stuff ruled!
Thurnham is looking good for tomorrow - anyone up for it?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: tilmanb on December 30, 2014, 10:15:28 AM
Getting ready to leave for Turnham.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on December 30, 2014, 12:48:45 PM
I will only be able to do a morning session again tomorrow as I have an afternoon appoitment.

That's if I cheer up - I have just messed up my perfect Nimbus canopy by dropping a CA glued piece of wood on the inside and covered it with glue which is now opaque and looks terrible!  :'(

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on December 30, 2014, 12:52:34 PM
Two Otts plus Foxes plan to descend on Thurnham at about 11am.

 :uk:
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Leebert on December 30, 2014, 15:53:10 PM
Hi All,

Hope you all had a great Christmas  :)

In a fit of excitement, I have popped the Wildy and Alex XL on charge along with the radio and, all being well, I should be at Thurnham tomorrow. That's if I can remember how to get there... Oh, and how to fly too  :o

Cheers,
Lee
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on December 30, 2014, 16:30:14 PM
That's if I cheer up - I have just messed up my perfect Nimbus canopy by dropping a CA glued piece of wood on the inside and covered it with glue which is now opaque and looks terrible!  :'(
Si
Oh dear, that's a real shame Si.  :'(  Not a lot we can do but commiserate with you.

I cracked the canopy on my ASH 26 on our last outing so I know how you are feeling. Similarly the damage was my fault as well. :banghead:

See you all tomorrow.. :af
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on December 30, 2014, 19:25:15 PM
I will be there from 10am tomorrow asking strangers to toss me off (well, strictly speaking the Nimbus)

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on December 31, 2014, 06:27:24 AM
I will only be able to do a morning session again tomorrow as I have an afternoon appoitment.

That's if I cheer up - I have just messed up my perfect Nimbus canopy by dropping a CA glued piece of wood on the inside and covered it with glue which is now opaque and looks terrible!  :'(

Si

Simon I have some cyno wipe which may (or may not) remove it, I've had success with it in the past. Can't come out out play today but will bring it with me next time....
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on December 31, 2014, 09:43:17 AM
If it's the cyano fumes that have made it go milky, I've got some Xerapol you could try which is designed to take out scratches/marks on canopys/visors. Bit of elbow grease needed but it works!

Am in N Devon over New Year and currently the wind direction is pant, SSE. Hoping it swings a bit West later....
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on December 31, 2014, 17:07:43 PM
Thurnham wasn't a great success for me as there was almost no lift until noon when I had to leave and I managed to break the Luna with a particularly rubbish bit of flying!  Still, I'm viewing this as good news now because I've decided to completely redesign and re-make the wing attachment system to get rid of those horrid 4 bolts and use one of my spare Skorpion wing joiners and make it into a wing attachment system like God intended!

Hope for another chance to fly tomorrow?....

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Leebert on December 31, 2014, 17:57:41 PM
Great to catch up with you today Simon. Shame the Luna flight didn't go according to plan. I'm sure it'll come back stronger and faster :)
Great to meet all the other Thurnham Massive today. Huge thanks to Eric and his lovely Mulled Wine which did a great job of warming me up :)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on December 31, 2014, 19:15:30 PM
Had a great day up on the slope at Thurnham today, 31 12 14.

A couple of models spiralled in though.

I learnt a long time ago, that when the sun is low in the sky, disorientation is a common problem. Even when you are positive that you are not disoriented, if your model starts to spiral in, let go of the sticks and as the model straightens into a dive, pulling up will usually save it!

If the model has dropped its right tip and your brain is telling you it has dropped its left tip, your reaction will be forcing the right tip down faster, the faster it drops the further you drive the stick.

For some reason vee-tail models with little dihedral appear to be affected the worst, although the other tail forms do suffer the effects in poor or low level (winter) lighting too.

Good Luck in the New Year with whatever you fly.

More photos to follow tomorrow, but as a taster of the fabulous general ambience from today...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on December 31, 2014, 20:40:42 PM
I will be there from 10am tomorrow asking strangers to toss me off (well, strictly speaking the Nimbus)
Si
Simon tossed me off beautifully three times today into lovely smooth air culminating in the nicest landings I've made in quite a while - well I would say that wouldn't I? . . . . or maybe it was the little taster of mulled wine that helped.  :af

Good to see Leebert again after a very long time and to Jef and Co, and my commiseration to those who sustained damage today.

See you all next year!

PS - If you are coming to Thurnham on New Year's Day, bring along a foamie wing so that we can have a cracking combat session!!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: RobtArm on January 01, 2015, 16:52:13 PM
Frustrating visit to Thurnham with a Diamond 2500. ESC had reset to 'brake off' and the windmill on the front ensured poor penetration. Must find the ESC manual…..

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on January 01, 2015, 22:36:19 PM
Not a very exciting video - I thought the photographer was taking stills - so I was trying to fly slowly!

https://vimeo.com/115757097

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on January 01, 2015, 23:43:55 PM
Some pictures from the last session of 2014...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on January 02, 2015, 01:25:04 AM
At the first session at Thurnham for 2015 the weather was rather murky but we did manage to get a fair bit of flying in. The weather forecasters said that it would be mild, but it definitely wasn't on top of the hill.  :o

With mulled wine stocks exhausted we had to rely on hot coffee to keep us warm, apart from Si who said he was as warm as toast in his new 'Dickies Onesie' - I think they are going to be the fashion item on the slopes for the next few months!  ;)

A few foamies turned up as requested so we managed to have a couple of entertaining combat sessions as well.

A group discussion around Si's Nimbus
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Charlie giving the Nimbus a good heave-ho!
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. . . and Paul about to do the same for Si's second flight of the Nimbus.
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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: David A on January 02, 2015, 07:08:30 AM
Nice to be on the slope again and big thanks to Bob and everyone with the Merlin maiden  :af

David
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Bad Raven on January 02, 2015, 07:24:18 AM
Simon tossed me off beautifully three times today . .

Too much information...................................

Went to Colley Hill yesterday a.m. as I figured it'd be too southerly for Thurnham, had a good hour and then low cloud dragged down by drizzle started becoming an issue, and stayed getting progressively worse until forced to abort.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on January 02, 2015, 08:48:42 AM
As it is Gary (my lad)'s birthday on Monday, instead of going flying in the southerlies yesterday (it would have been great at Hadleigh Castle) I stayed in and repaired his woe stricken Fox.

Not being a glass fuselage repairs expert, I could do with some advice please.

The internal plywood parts have all been re-affixed inside the pod, and I have strengthened the glass fibres with CA where the gel coat has crumpled and gone away (in several areas where the shock of landing on the nose was too much), and the model is thoroughly firm again. Personally, I would be happy to fly it as it is, despite the lack of gel coat, but would that be a bad idea?

I can foresee that mud will get into the uncovered glass making properly finished repairs less strong.

If I use lightweight auto body filler, I will then have a large sanding job (out in the cold, as my workshop is full) and it isn't the weather for spraying yet, so would it be OK to fly with the filler smooth but bare?

What would you do? 
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on January 02, 2015, 10:35:37 AM
My Nimbus is currently flying with exposed filler Jeff, but I won't really be able to tell if it was a really bad idea until it comes time to spray it when the weather warms up a bit!  I can tell you one thing though, Thurnham mud really stains the exposed filler so anything that was white is now brown!
I would think (hope) that with a good clean with soap and water and some panel wipe prior to spraying in the Spring the paint should adhere OK.

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on January 02, 2015, 11:56:42 AM
Lost my phone. Last used it / saw it about 2pm - 3pm on 31 / 12 / 14 up on the hill at Thurnham. Cheap nasty little black phone. Not worth much, but I do sooo need the sim card!

Cheers

Jef

PS Thanks Simon!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: JohnP on January 02, 2015, 20:41:24 PM
Went to Colley Hill yesterday a.m. as I figured it'd be too southerly for Thurnham, had a good hour and then low cloud dragged down by drizzle started becoming an issue, and stayed getting progressively worse until forced to abort.

I was considering a trip to Colley yesterday,  but the weather was getting worse every time I looked out,  so I gave up the idea.  I'd probably have arrived just as you were leaving if I'd gone!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on January 02, 2015, 22:22:09 PM
This is why we stick to RC slope soaring...
http://youtu.be/ffkXLfFnhdI (http://youtu.be/ffkXLfFnhdI)


Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on January 04, 2015, 20:19:41 PM
. . . Charlie and i didn't go slope soaring today Gary, much to your expected disapproval - we did a bit of indoor flying as our thumbs needed some stick twiddling time to keep them in trim.

The Medway Indoor event was very well attended and surprisingly not many quadcopters were present, apart from the very tiny ones which could hardly be seen.

I had a couple of helis and my Sukhoi 26 XP which was possibly a bit too fast for the size of the hall, but mainly it was me as I hadn't flown it for a couple of years. For some reason as soon as you take off the room seems to shrink to half its previous size with walls moving in about 20 feet - very disconcerting. :o

Charlie had his new, quite large, shock flyer on its first outing. He also had problems with the hall shrinking initially but after a few flights he was impressively in control doing the vertical 3d stuff, clever flat turns, knife edge flying and various hairpin manouvres. He said he had to use coordinated aileron/rudder input a lot more and believes this will help with his slope soaring technique.

A good day was had by all, with £120 being raised for the Kent Air Ambulance. . . and Charlie also won a bottle of wine in the raffle. :af
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Allen the soarer on January 05, 2015, 20:36:24 PM
Is it bad that that video actually mad me lol 😊
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: RobtArm on January 06, 2015, 17:14:51 PM
You've been Framed and the wannabes have taught a generation to laugh at people really getting hurt. Sick or what?

At least no-one seemed to be seriously damaged in that collection. I liked the guy who was resting while his ego recovered.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on January 06, 2015, 19:46:12 PM
When I watched the collection of paraglider mishaps, I thought 'that could have been me', as many years ago when proportional radio control was first produced, a hang glider cost about the same as a full set of radio gear. I was teetering on the brink of which aeronautical pursuit to follow and very nearly went that route instead of R/C flying.

That was the reason I put a like against Gary's post and not that I like to see aircraft and their pilots crashing and most probably hurting themselves. I know how much it hurts when I sometimes fall over skiing so at the heights that those guys were falling from, it must be very painful when the ground comes up to meet them.

So I'm glad I stuck with aeromodelling which still gives me an adrenaline rush, but with both feet safely planted on the ground. :af
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on January 08, 2015, 07:05:51 AM
If the weather forecast stays good I might fly the big ASG at Thurnham on Friday - others available to come and play?

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on January 08, 2015, 09:04:53 AM
Should be able to make it up at some point Mr WS, won't be able to do the full day though.


If the weather forecast stays good I might fly the big ASG at Thurnham on Friday - others available to come and play?

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on January 08, 2015, 09:06:39 AM
If the weather forecast stays good I might fly the big ASG at Thurnham on Friday - others available to come and play?

I would've Si but booked car in for cambelt change for Fri morning.
And it's looking the best day for it too...(flying, not car maintenance)!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on January 08, 2015, 12:18:51 PM
I would've Si but booked car in for cambelt change for Fri morning.
And it's looking the best day for it too...(flying, not car maintenance)!

Sounds like you need to change the car booking Mark!...

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on January 08, 2015, 19:44:57 PM
I'll be there Si.  :af
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: tilmanb on January 09, 2015, 09:27:51 AM
I'm contemplating Thurnam today. Butser is a shorter trip and also works fine.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: tilmanb on January 09, 2015, 14:03:29 PM
I'm feeling lonely at Butser Hill.
But don't come here. The wind turned a bit too much south.
Little lift, tons of turbulence and strong gusts.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on January 09, 2015, 16:56:35 PM
Wish you had come to Thurnham Tilman - it was fab with lots of company!

Sumo
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on January 09, 2015, 19:35:49 PM
Agreed Si, It was an excellent session today.

Lots of interesting (!) launches and landings with Simon performing the most amazing aerobatic tip-to-tip landing we have ever seen, from which his five metre ASG 29 emerged unscathed - just goes to show how well he builds em.  :af

Good to see David A on the hill again - very much looking forward to seeing his latest project on the slope - and also to see Barry after a long absence.

As hard as I tried I couldn't repeat the greaser landings I achieved repeatedly with my '26 the last time I was out.  >:(  I'll blame the bumpy conditions for my poor performance. I did manage some respectable launches for others though, with the help on my new purple hi-grip gardening gloves - they make all the difference.

Cheers all,

Ol' Fumble Thumbs
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on January 09, 2015, 21:21:36 PM
Yes, not my greatest performance today but the good news is I have finally located the menu in the radio settings that was the partial cause of the terrible landing (albeit mostly caused by my inability to recognise that the flaps weren't down and it was actually travelling at 100mph!)

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: JohnP on January 09, 2015, 22:17:25 PM
Good to see David A on the hill again - very much looking forward to seeing his latest project on the slope

David A,  as in RCM&E?  He mentioned about a week ago over in "t'other place" that he'd been flying at Thurnham.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on January 09, 2015, 22:37:40 PM
That's correct John - a welcome addition to the Thurnham Massive.  :)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: JohnP on January 09, 2015, 22:49:23 PM
David A,  as in RCM&E?  He mentioned about a week ago over in "t'other place" that he'd been flying at Thurnham.


And now I actually open my eyes,  I see he posted on here, in this very thread (http://www.rcmf.co.uk/4um/index.php/topic,99839.msg1200899.html#msg1200899), about it too!   :''
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on January 10, 2015, 10:31:40 AM
This guy does some lovely laid-back movies....

https://www.youtube.com/user/gprrobby/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/gprrobby/videos)

Makes me want to move to Brittany!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: tilmanb on January 10, 2015, 11:38:23 AM
He's probably not too happy if you show up with a f3f screamer at his slope.
Lovely videos though.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on January 10, 2015, 12:25:22 PM
Thanks for sharing the link to his lovely videos.

A good instructive lesson (to many of us) in how to make a good launch for a big bird.

Going out for a sprint up the road, with my arms above my head, right now  ;D
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on January 10, 2015, 13:26:58 PM
That vid made me go and fix my Duo Discus. Ready to fly now.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: RobtArm on January 10, 2015, 15:54:12 PM
the good news is I have finally located the menu in the radio settings that was the partial cause of the terrible landing (albeit mostly caused by my inability to recognise that the flaps weren't down and it was actually travelling at 100mph!)

Si

As a matter of interest (nerd tendency surfacing) what was the source of that?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Bad Raven on January 10, 2015, 16:13:05 PM
He's probably not too happy if you show up with a f3f screamer at his slope.

I'm sure a few Wild Things would be appreciated though.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: David A on January 10, 2015, 16:39:43 PM
A really good afternoon yesterday chaps  :)
A few piccies:

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on January 10, 2015, 18:38:18 PM
As a matter of interest (nerd tendency surfacing) what was the source of that?
It might be a bit complex to explain and irrelevant to people who don't use Futaba, but in essence I couldn't work out why if I accidentally left it in thermal condition when I selected landing condition the flaps were disabled but the ailerons went up and elevator down as normal - so without the flaps coming down as intended the plane accelerated alarmingly.  I eventually found I had made a setting in the camber settings which disabled the flaps only if the thermal condition was selected - see I warned you too complex to explain in words!

Anyway back in action tomorrow at Thurnham hopefully!

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: RobtArm on January 10, 2015, 20:28:56 PM
Camber mix enabled with a switch (same switch as sets the flight condition which was in use before Landing condition) but with no or small flap deflection?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: SpringHead on January 10, 2015, 20:59:13 PM
Great photos David, hope work slows down soon so I can join all you guys on the slope again
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on January 10, 2015, 21:03:29 PM
A really good afternoon yesterday chaps  :)
A few piccies:
Thanks David,
Your excellent photos just go to show that even though Paul's Purbeck ASW27 and my Multiplex ASH26 are both getting on in years, that they still look great in the air.  :af
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on January 11, 2015, 16:56:46 PM
"Catch of the Day"

Well, I don't know what is wrong with me at the moment but I seem determined to kill my scratch built ASG29!
On Friday there was the 100 mph "landing" that turned into a ground loop / aerobatic schedule bouncing off both wingtips with NO DAMAGE.

Today, I launched into not too great lift made two turns and decided (wrongly) to make a turn into the slope to try and get some slope lift.  Must have been going too slowly because it tucked and did a spiral vertically down and went out of view behind the fence.  Looked back at my comrades in arms for sympathy and then started walking to the fence to retrieve what might be left when Mark said "its still flying over there!". Sure enough 50 yards away below the fence line she was valiantly flying straight and level at 90 degrees to the slope !

Got her up to a good height and landed (badly) and went to check to see if I'dkilled any hikers on the track!

I still ccan't quite see how she pulled out with basically zero height and started flying again -  still as Charlie says she seems to fly nicely as long as I don't touch the sticks (rude)

Clearly another major escape so I'm going to enter the lottery.....

Had two more flights after that all was well so a great day at Thurnham...

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on January 11, 2015, 17:07:21 PM
One piccy from today's visit to a chilly Thurnham.
Arriving early were me and 'Simon The Entertainer' (explanation by Si in his posting), followed later by Mark, Charlie and David plus three others.

Unscathed all scale line-up at the slope at the end of the day, including full-size pilots, Mark, Si and David
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An entertaining day with interesting flights being had by all including David maidening the ASW17 acquired from Alstorm. Elevator problems resulted in an 'interesting' flight profile with a very rapid return to earth next to the stone pile, but it survived (Pat Teakle makes strong fuselages!) to be further fettled and flown again when the weather is kinder.

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: David Seton on January 11, 2015, 22:13:00 PM
After the exciting (scary)flight with the Pat Teakle asw17 I would be grateful  for any information regarding recommended CG position. I really don't want to try to fly it again with full down trim and full forward stick- even though Simon and Eric were very polite about my crap arrival.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on January 12, 2015, 09:14:54 AM
After the exciting (scary)flight with the Pat Teakle asw17 I would be grateful  for any information regarding recommended CG position. I really don't want to try to fly it again with full down trim and full forward stick- even though Simon and Eric were very polite about my crap arrival.


I am in no position to comment on crap arrivals at the moment David!

As I am sure you know Pat Teakle gliders are being manufactured again by John Hall/Bill Hosie so I expect they will be able to tell you.  You can also get a new canopy from them http://www.patteaklegliders.co.uk/328313687 (http://www.patteaklegliders.co.uk/328313687)

As a point of interest I cannot imagine why they have not produced decent photographs of the current crop of builds - the ones they show are comically awful (see "Building Pictures" if you want a laugh!) but I believe the kits themselves are much better than the original with blue foam, glassed wings being offered and epoxy ilo polyester fuselages - see Brian Sharp's build thread on Scale Soaring.  He seems very happy with the kit

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: grj on January 12, 2015, 09:56:42 AM
Sorry to hijack thread.

Paul W. Important PM sent.

That should get tongues wagging  :''

Graham
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on January 12, 2015, 11:07:49 AM
Sorry to hijack thread.

Paul W. Important PM sent.

That should get tongues wagging  :''

Graham

Thanks Graham!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on January 12, 2015, 11:12:24 AM
But Paul, you already have a Partner!

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on January 12, 2015, 11:19:44 AM
But Paul, you already have a Partner!

Si

I'm a strict disciple of the Church of Latter-day Saints, and my fundamentalist approach to the Mormon ways allows me to take many wives  ;)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: grj on January 12, 2015, 13:25:07 PM
 :o
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on January 12, 2015, 17:46:37 PM
After the exciting (scary)flight with the Pat Teakle asw17 I would be grateful  for any information regarding recommended CG position. I really don't want to try to fly it again with full down trim and full forward stick- even though Simon and Eric were very polite about my crap arrival.
Just about to check the C of G location on my 5 metre ASW17 for you David.
I'll get back to you later this evening.
Cheers, Eric

UPDATE at 19:30hrs
David, the chord of my wing at the root is 24cm and the C of G is 6.5cm back from the leading edge.
It appears quite forward, but it does fly nicely (and fast) at that setting, however I expect it could go back a bit.
I am flying the ASW17 at the position that Bernie Jones had it set at when I bought it from him a couple of years ago.
I hope this helps.
Eric

PS to all - We are still filling in the hole that David dug with the nose of his '17!  :af
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: David A on January 13, 2015, 10:57:31 AM
Is anyone flying tomorrow AM? At the moment the forecast seems pretty good and I'm tempted to give the new Blanik a maiden flight.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on January 13, 2015, 11:39:54 AM
I can't manage the morning but might be able to sneak out early afternoon David.  It does look like the wind direction gets better in the afternoon too - but I don't want to influence you unduly!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: David A on January 13, 2015, 13:14:25 PM
Ah ok, thanks Si.

Would you suggest waiting till then to throw it off the edge?

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on January 13, 2015, 15:03:23 PM
It really does depend what the wind actually does, but XC and YR forecasts say it will be Westerly until 2ish and then moving more SW (which is the best direction for Thurnham).
Whilst Thurnham does work in a direct Westerly, I would much prefer a SW wind for a maiden.
I don't think I can get there until 2:30ish so don't wait for me but I will swing by to see how things went! 

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on January 13, 2015, 15:42:00 PM
I can get there anytime tomorrow David, but it would be best to have two or three of us there to help out as the Blanik is quite a big beast to get into the air.
Let's see who else is about and maybe we should give Paul and Charlie a call to see if they are available tomorrow.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on January 13, 2015, 17:00:31 PM
I can probably get there by about 12:30 now....
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: David A on January 13, 2015, 20:27:22 PM
Ok, thanks Eric and Si. I'll get there for around midday and see how things are. I'll pack something else too just in case the wind doesn't swing round. I was hoping to get Graham to come along too so he can point his camera at it and lend a hand too.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on January 13, 2015, 20:30:59 PM
Saturday is looking like a good'ish one for Thurnham, not the strongest of blows but it doesn't look like it'll be raining!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on January 13, 2015, 20:32:18 PM
It's looking like it will be WSW at 12:30hrs, backing to SW for the afternoon, initially Force 5 dropping to Force 4 later - perfect for a maiden, David!  :)

See you around midday.  :af
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: grj on January 13, 2015, 21:02:06 PM
I can probably get there by about 12:30 now....

Si

The TVSF guys may go to Thurnham tomorrow though I can't make it. Any chance you might hand the Luna joiner to one of them, or is it too soon.

Graham
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on January 13, 2015, 21:16:56 PM
Si

The TVSF guys may go to Thurnham tomorrow though I can't make it. Any chance you might hand the Luna joiner to one of them, or is it too soon.

Graham
No problem Graham I will try to remember to pack it!

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: grj on January 14, 2015, 08:47:53 AM
Thank Si.

Looks like they've changed their minds  $%&

Check out my PM to you.

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on January 14, 2015, 09:07:38 AM
It's looking like it will be WSW at 12:30hrs, backing to SW for the afternoon, initially Force 5 dropping to Force 4 later - perfect for a maiden, David!  :)

See you around midday.  :af

Good luck chaps, work for me today  >:(
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on January 14, 2015, 15:10:34 PM
Big success today for David maidening his Blanik.  She flew really well - I even had a go!

There will be pictures...

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on January 14, 2015, 15:14:47 PM
Most excellent....hopefully I'll get to see it in the flesh some time soon. Glad all went well!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: David A on January 14, 2015, 17:48:54 PM
Big thanks for your help Si....and the launches!  :af

Thanks to Eric too. I'm a happy bunny. She's a big pussy cat.



Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on January 14, 2015, 20:07:08 PM
A successful maiden - well done David!
A couple of snaps of the action taken with my phone.

Si nearly putting his back out lifting the mighty Blanik - bend zee knees!
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Hoisting the 9.5kg beast aloft prior to launching from the sunny but cold Thurnham slope
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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: JohnP on January 14, 2015, 21:41:30 PM
Looks good! 

The first (full-size) plane I ever flew (or indeed, flew in) was a Blanik.  Not far short of 40 years ago...  :o
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Bob Ryan on January 15, 2015, 09:13:52 AM
Really looks good and diferent. Is the mdel a kit or plan? Nice size, quite fancy it myself.
It also make a change from White. Look forward to seeing myself. Rgs Bob
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on January 15, 2015, 17:37:05 PM
Here you are Bob.  :)
http://blackhorsemodel.com.vn/?product=bh135-l-13-blanik (http://blackhorsemodel.com.vn/?product=bh135-l-13-blanik)
David has it set up as a pure glider, i.e. no motor installed and also no airbrakes, the massive flaps do a great job of stopping it.  :af
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: David A on January 16, 2015, 13:19:05 PM
Yes, I couldn't bring myself to put an outrunner in it.

I got the crow braking on the stick though Bob  ;) It needed virtually no elevator compensation which was a surprise.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on January 16, 2015, 16:52:41 PM
Will be up with the lark tomorrow and up at Thurnham.
It'll be chilly so maximum winter wear will be in use...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on January 16, 2015, 16:55:52 PM
Me too!

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on January 17, 2015, 08:01:09 AM
Have a good one chaps, I am in full on DIY mode unfortunately  :'(
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on January 17, 2015, 20:34:51 PM
Yes we had a good one Paul.

The wind was less than expected so those of us with more lightly loaded models fared well, but we still had to work at it to keep above the horizon at times.
Not a lot of flying,but plenty of nattering although I did manage four flights with my venerable Samba Models 'Kobra' mouldie which does stay up well in light winds.
However, I did have to make a dirty dash downwind but safe landing as the wind died on my last flight which was to demonstrate to Eric P that there was enough lift to fly his Alex, and I quite comprehensively proved that there wasn't. Doh!! :banghead:
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on January 17, 2015, 21:52:56 PM
I've only just warmed up!
Some lovely wintery thermals for an hour or so as what little sunlight barely warmed the ground...then, as Eric said, the lift just disappeared.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on January 20, 2015, 08:57:07 AM
Saturday is looking promising for Firle.
Anyone else fancy it?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on January 20, 2015, 12:02:48 PM
It might be rude not to....

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on January 20, 2015, 13:13:43 PM
There might be enough blow for your big toys Simon...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Bob Ryan on January 20, 2015, 15:32:37 PM
I have a free pass for Saturday. So I am up for it.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on January 20, 2015, 19:34:36 PM
There might be enough blow for your big toys Simon...
Weatherspark is showing 19.5mph NW and some sun as well, so it should be good for a couple of big Foxes.
Are you feeling up to launching two of them Mark?  :af
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on January 20, 2015, 23:53:31 PM
Weatherspark is showing 19.5mph NW and some sun as well, so it should be good for a couple of big Foxes.
Are you feeling up to launching two of them Mark?  :af

Not at the same time Eric...!

 ;D
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: David A on January 21, 2015, 13:50:09 PM
It's about time I ventured from Thurnham, how's your launching arm Simon, have you recovered?  ;)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on January 21, 2015, 18:35:01 PM
Arm is fine David, but Mark is the Master-Launcher (or Master-something anyway!)

It would be great to see you on the South Downs and after Thurnham I think you will be ecstatic about the lift!

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Rob Thomson on January 21, 2015, 22:26:03 PM
I will be at Firl tomorrow....  probably be very thermic!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on January 23, 2015, 07:50:01 AM
I hope Firle was good yesterday Rob.  Looks like the wind will be in the wrong direction for us on Saturday now  >:(

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on January 23, 2015, 12:40:35 PM
The bowl next to the car park faces NW so surely that would be OK, Si?  :)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on January 23, 2015, 12:50:09 PM
That's the area the paraglider chaps use Eric, so probably only
viable for models when it's blowing over 20  :'(
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on January 23, 2015, 13:33:15 PM
I think Mark, Eric and I are going to risk it on Saturday and hope for the best....

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on January 23, 2015, 14:49:02 PM
If it goes any further West than NW then Firle isn't the best I've found.
I reckon it'll be fine and if there's a good blow, as Eric says, we can use the hanglider slope next to the car park.
I'll be there by 10am.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on January 23, 2015, 16:41:08 PM
Have a good one chaps, apres fly- photos and report pls!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on January 23, 2015, 16:58:07 PM
Hopefully we'll have a 'Foxtastic day' Paul.  :D
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on January 23, 2015, 20:15:13 PM
Gary and I will be bringing a pair of little 1/5th scale foxes to make your big'uns look good. :)

Is the Devil's Dyke LZ too small for the big Foxes?

Jef
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on January 23, 2015, 20:40:09 PM
Gary and I will be bringing a pair of little 1/5th scale foxes to make your big'uns look good. :)

Is the Devil's Dyke LZ too small for the big Foxes?

Jef
Basically yes Jef, but I dislike it for lots of other reasons too!...

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on January 23, 2015, 22:15:27 PM
Think Gary and I will probably go to Devil's Dyke.  :-\

Tried Firle in a North Westerly and didn't like it (although I must admit the wind strength was a bit marginal - it was too weak for the PGs).

The windstrength is now being forecast a fair bit weaker than it was, and I think Firle may well be a bit like a bedspread convention by midday.

Good Luck wherever you decide to go.

Jef
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on January 24, 2015, 08:26:50 AM
XC showing NNW 17mph with 25mph+ gusts...

Superb for Firle!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on January 24, 2015, 08:34:56 AM
Good conditions today, but there is a slight lack of northwest slopes isn't there?

I have a bit of flu so I won't come out today ... but if I did, I guess I would go to Long Man, I like the NW flying there.

I haven't been to Devil's Dyke in ages for some reason ... I reckon Devil's Dyke is good fun as long as your model is not too valuable! Personally I won't be bringing my big Duo Discus there. 

Have a good one - and post pics so us lazy non-aventurerous types can indulge!

(This is a pic of the biggest plane I've seen flown at Devil's Dyke, along with my white and orange Baudis Banana.)

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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on January 24, 2015, 16:48:33 PM
Brilliant day at Field today from the slope next to the car park - no hang gliders for some reason.
Eric has photos and video and will be along later!

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on January 24, 2015, 20:45:36 PM
Brilliant day at Field today from the slope next to the car park - no hang gliders for some reason.
Eric has photos and video and will be along later!

Si

We had a great day at the Dyke. There were loads of rigid wings at the slope, but they were all very well behaved and stayed left of the electric fence. Lift was plentiful for everyone.

When the cows moved in, the landing zone became a little more interesting, but the landings were not a problem.

Met up and had a beer (in the Devil's Dyke) with a couple of old buddies from my days flying F3K (discus launched gliders), who now fly rigid wing hang gliders.

Fabulous day out.

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on January 24, 2015, 21:32:41 PM
By the cringe (as James Bolam used to say), it was cold at Firle today. However we had taken the precaution of wrapping up very well, so using our tranny muffs we kept reasonably warm in the sunshine.

Here are a few photos of our visit, video to follow tomorrow.

Simon preparing his Big Fox for flight. Mark and Si's Swifts in the background.
I decided not to take my big Fox along as I had had quite a good Burns Night celebration last night and my stomach and head were still feeling the effects of having too much food and drink and not enough sleep.  :''
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Mark and John P making sure Si is putting the Fox together properly.  ;)
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All set to go
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Mark hoisting the Fox aloft prior to an immaculate launch - video evidence to follow.  :af
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Si and Mark enjoying their Swift 'hoonigan' session - no close calls this time however earlier in the day Mark's Swift had a very lucky escape scraping a wing tip along the ground at high speed, when he had a slight slope orientation problem!!  :o  :''  :co
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Video to follow tomorrow.


Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on January 25, 2015, 09:49:29 AM
Good stuff chaps, looks like you had the hill to yourselves!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on January 25, 2015, 10:17:58 AM
Yes, nearly all to ourselves apart from John and another couple of locals. Stacks of lift in smooth air.  :af
All the others headed west to be able to hide behind the bushes but it was a bit far to carry the Big Fox as Si had forgotten to load his trolley.  :banghead:
Luckily one of the locals showed us where there was a bit of rotor which enabled us to stand in nearly still air while flying.
Quite a few walkers stopped by to admire the Big Fox and we even had one young lady wanting to take photos of 'Slope Hunks' for her website, so we duly obliged!  ;)  ;D
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on January 25, 2015, 10:32:10 AM
Excellent!....any idea what the name of the website is that you'll be appearing on?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on January 25, 2015, 11:06:07 AM
We were so overwhelmed at being asked to pose for a young lady that we forgot to ask! Doh!
I suppose you could Google 'Saddos on the South Downs' and you'll most probably find us!  ;D

Edit:
Why would anyone would want to photograph these guys?  :o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNYk0S1IhJs&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNYk0S1IhJs&feature=youtu.be)
Photos and videos taken on my Samsung Galaxy S4 Mini mobile phone.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: JohnP on January 25, 2015, 12:19:59 PM
I think I found it Eric... this one (https://crimestoppers-uk.org/most-wanted/)?   :''
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Rob Thomson on January 25, 2015, 14:05:54 PM
I will be at Firl tomorrow....  probably be very thermic!

I hope Firle was good yesterday Rob.  Looks like the wind will be in the wrong direction for us on Saturday now  >:(

Si

I ended up with a short stint at Firl, followed  by a superb session at Ditchling.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on January 25, 2015, 18:19:22 PM
I ended up with a short stint at Firl, followed  by a superb session at Ditchling.

That's interesting, Rob. I think Ditchling and Bo Peep are good in the same wind directions - North Easterlies.

Firle and Bo Peep are 'neighbours'... I would be interested to learn your reasoning behind going to Ditchling instead of Bo Peep. The Car Park is better placed at Ditchling I suppose, which makes flying a variety of models a lot easier.

Hope we meet on a slope one day, we seem to be good at flying the same slopes, but missing each other!

Cheers,

Jef
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Rob Thomson on January 25, 2015, 18:44:57 PM
Two good reasons.

1.  I had screwed up locations and was meant to meet some friends at Ditchling.   For some reason I brain farted and drove to Firle!

2.  Bopeep and Firl where invaded by pillows.  Never seen so many!  Ditchling is a no go for them due to a fence at the front of the slope.

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on January 27, 2015, 18:01:56 PM
I had a very pleasant fly at Itford Hill today. I was at a work meeting in Newhaven in the morning, and then driving home past Itford Hill I realised it was full sun and the wind was on the hill, so I took my Extreme F3F mouldie up there. The wind was actually only about 2mph but there was enough lift to fly. A chap called Alan from ESSA was up there flying an own-design glider based on several 1980s classics.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on January 28, 2015, 12:01:17 PM
I had a very pleasant fly at Itford Hill today. I was at a work meeting in Newhaven in the morning, and then driving home past Itford Hill I realised it was full sun and the wind was on the hill, so I took my Extreme F3F mouldie up there. The wind was actually only about 2mph but there was enough lift to fly. A chap called Alan from ESSA was up there flying an own-design glider based on several 1980s classics.

Where are the photos Gary? Or was the camera just extra ballast you could face lugging up the hill?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on January 28, 2015, 19:03:29 PM
Took no camera, was travelling light. It's just a hill anyway, they all look the same...

I see in the latest (Feb) issue of RCM&E mag (now there's a catchy title) that Andy Ellison, he of big slopes, big gliders and big winds, visited Turnham. His comment about Turnham is a classic: "The Great Orme it is not".



 



Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on January 29, 2015, 21:14:18 PM
Maybe Castle Hill Thurnham isn't the Great Orme but it does give a lot a people a lot of pleasure.

As the old saying goes, "It's not about how big it is, but what you do with it that counts!"
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on January 29, 2015, 21:47:24 PM
Dry, Sunny North Westerlies around 20mph forecast for Sunday.

:)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on January 30, 2015, 09:20:12 AM
Don't worry Eric, he said lots of positive things about the wonderful people at Turnham. It was nice positive coverage, I just mentioned the funny bit about the Great Orme comparison.

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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Allen the soarer on January 30, 2015, 13:43:40 PM
Having a tidy up in the hanger
MU28 £300
Minivision Spread tow £400
Master Masterpiece £200
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Allen the soarer on January 30, 2015, 13:49:37 PM
And
Artist 3  :P
£650.00
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Allen the soarer on January 30, 2015, 16:26:46 PM
And my 4m Fox :)
£450.00
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on January 30, 2015, 23:39:19 PM
Don't worry Eric, he said lots of positive things about the wonderful people at Turnham. It was nice positive coverage, I just mentioned the funny bit about the Great Orme comparison.
(Attachment Link)
. . . and in my humble opinion, Thurnham has the best landing zone of all the slopes in the south east, but i am given to understand that it is not as good as the LZ at the Great Orme.  ;)
If only the fence wasn't there, but then we'd have North Downs Way walkers and paragliders in the launching zone.  >:(
I must pick up.my copy of the RCM&E in the morning to read Andy's article for myself.  :study:

EDIT: Agreed Gary - Andy has written an excellent piece about Thurnham flyers and the slope following his visit 'down south' to a number of soaring sites and flat fields.  :af
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on February 01, 2015, 20:54:06 PM
With the help of the "Slope Soaring Sussex" group, discovered the NW facing side of Ditchling Beacon today. Every bit as good, nay, BETTER than the NE side. Less walking than Firle or Bo Peep.

Snow on the ground and 25mph winds gusting over 40mph, the Calypso Contest, fully laden.
Fabulous Fun in the Sunshine.

Bit blustery and the first launch was a non-starter. Thump. A quick re-tape of the tip joints, a check of the structure and controls and away it went on the second attempt without any turbulence at all.

Lift was reliable and widespread, throughout the 70 minute flight.
 
Landing zone... "the Great Orme, it is not"!   But I found the landing easier here than at Devil's Dyke, Ditchling 'Eastside' and Bo Peep. No rotor where I went. Long grass. No rocks. Some snow.

Downside is the full size gliding activity - which started at about noon.

No problem parking when I arrived at 09.30am and the Car Park still had spaces at 1pm when I was leaving, having had my most exhilarating slope session, ever.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Allen the soarer on February 03, 2015, 15:29:07 PM
Revised prices
£380 FOR MINI VISION
£380 FOR FOX  :af
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on February 03, 2015, 17:01:25 PM
Discovered this strange looking book on eBay. Can't actually be bothered buying it to see what it's about, but it looks amusing...

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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Nicholls on February 03, 2015, 17:22:32 PM
I've sent a pm.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on February 03, 2015, 18:41:57 PM
Discovered this strange looking book on eBay. Can't actually be bothered buying it to see what it's about, but it looks amusing...


Ah! I see you've found my autobiography,Wally Kahn is one of my nom de plumes Gary!!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on February 03, 2015, 20:04:12 PM
Here you are for free - it's now in the public domain.
http://www.lakesgc.co.uk/mainwebpages/eBook%20Library/A%20Glider%20Pilot%20Bold%203rd%20edition-%20Wally%20Kahn.pdf (http://www.lakesgc.co.uk/mainwebpages/eBook%20Library/A%20Glider%20Pilot%20Bold%203rd%20edition-%20Wally%20Kahn.pdf)

Lots more gliding books and magazines in the Archive section of the Lakes Gliding Club website - http://www.lakesgc.co.uk (http://www.lakesgc.co.uk) - they'll keep you occupied for hours.
Si/Mark - there is an article by Guy Westgate on an aerobatic display in the Swift in Volume 60 of Sailplane and Gliding.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: David A on February 04, 2015, 18:48:59 PM
Evening chaps, is anyone thinking about the South Downs for this coming Saturday?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on February 04, 2015, 21:03:27 PM
Assuming the weather looks right  i was thinking of a bit of Friday action - could you make that?

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: David A on February 05, 2015, 12:25:06 PM
Yes I think so Si, where/when were you thinking?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on February 05, 2015, 15:40:16 PM
The Thurnham Massive will be aiming to get to Bopeep at 11:00 tomorrow!
Mark will probably be there at first light I expect but I have an Osteopath appointment first thing

Simon
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on February 05, 2015, 16:06:15 PM
Yeah, I've got to be back by 4pm so am aiming to get there at 9.30ish…

Anyone got a portable gas heater they want to bring along?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: David A on February 05, 2015, 16:43:47 PM
Right you are, see you all there.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on February 05, 2015, 17:59:46 PM
Have a great time lads. Looking forward to seeing photos and reports.  :af

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on February 06, 2015, 17:41:42 PM
Hope you all had a good day at the 'Peep . . . and have by now thawed out.  ;)

Are you still thinking of going again tomorrow Simon? - if so I'm up for it!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on February 06, 2015, 18:58:23 PM
Mixed day at the Peep - I had a lovely time with the Big Fox and Phil H seemed to enjoy flying it too (Eric, he has one too so in the future we can 3 Purbeck Foxes into the sky!).
David A enjoyed flying his F3F mouldie but (rather sensibly) decided not to risk his new Blanik.  Paul decided in the end not to risk his ASW27 either as by then the wind had got even stronger and it was blowing at 50mph!  John P and friend also did some very fast zooming around but had a relatively short session too.  Mark stayed the longest with his trusty Swift and as a result got the coldest!
So not as much flying as we usually get on the South Downs, but it was seriously blowy!

I'm a bit tuckered out to be honest Eric and I need to repair some fences so I will have to pass on tomorrow

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: David A on February 06, 2015, 19:41:58 PM
Well that was quite a blow! The Merlin is little flown and I haven't sorted out ballast yet so today was a lesson in the need for some.

Impressed by Simon's Fox - some piccies.

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on February 06, 2015, 20:18:47 PM
Epic lift today, really enjoyed it but only just thawed out!

My little Swift went like a rocket today but it really was a day for big/heavy models.
Impressed by the unballasted Merlin, it felt like launching a feather but punched the through the air with ease.

I think we were all caught out but the rotor whilst landing today, no damage done though, but it was unpredictable and quite strong.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on February 06, 2015, 20:59:51 PM
I'm a bit tuckered out to be honest Eric and I need to repair some fences so I will have to pass on tomorrow
Si
No problem Simon - very pleased you all had a good day. Excellent photos David.  :af

Work unfortunately took precedence today, all the more annoying as my big Fox 'Arctic Fox' was ready to go again.
So this afternoon I took the opportunity sort out the graphics arrangements for 'Arctic Fox' and placed the order. The wing won't look such a large expanse of white when the big letters and numbers are on the underside. I've also come up with some additional graphics to go on the fuselage and I think they'll look quite good, although I won't permanently fit them until we've done the two part epoxy finish.

It will be quite something to have three Big Foxes tail-chasing around the skies - can't wait. :)  :D

Have a good day tomorrow fixing fences and make sure you look after your back.  :af
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: JohnP on February 06, 2015, 21:56:10 PM
John P and friend also did some very fast zooming around but had a relatively short session too.

Before anybody gets confused,  there's obviously two of us!   :''

This JohnP was stuck in the office all day...  ???
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on February 07, 2015, 10:44:37 AM
Too late, I was confused!  ;)

 :'(  I'm commiserating with you John. I was stuck in the office as well! :'(

At least we were in the warm, although Simon would have been quite cosy in his Dickies Onesie. Did it stand up to the test Si?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: JohnP on February 07, 2015, 13:04:07 PM
Not sure Eric,  but I believe there is another flyer who frequents the slopes in this part of the world who goes by the name of 'John P' - hardly surprising that it's not a unique name!  ;D 

I'm the one who mostly flies power models but ventures out onto the slopes from time-to-time.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on February 07, 2015, 16:39:30 PM
The John P in this case was John Philips or JP.

The onesie met the ultimate test and I was toasty in the freezing 50 mph blast - apart from my hands!

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on February 07, 2015, 22:58:59 PM
The John P in this case was John Philips or JP.
The onesie met the ultimate test and I was toasty in the freezing 50 mph blast - apart from my hands!
Si
Not sure Eric,  but I believe there is another flyer who frequents the slopes in this part of the world who goes by the name of 'John P' - hardly surprising that it's not a unique name!  ;D 
Oops, another senior moment - I've known John Phillips for over 30 years and I've always referred to him by his full name and not as John P, hence the confusion, which is easy at my age. :af
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on February 11, 2015, 09:09:37 AM
Saturday is the only day this weekend I'll get a chance to hit the slopes, XC weather has changed it's forecast every few hours...watch this space!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on February 11, 2015, 11:35:56 AM
BBC's money is on Thurnham atm....

On another matter, for those who require a slope on their doorstep the house at the top of Holly Hill is on the market...

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-30305796.html (http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-30305796.html)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on February 11, 2015, 12:18:53 PM
BBC's money is on Thurnham atm....

I do hope they're right (Met Office showing the same)...XC showing an Easterly!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on February 11, 2015, 21:50:17 PM
BBC's money is on Thurnham atm....

On another matter, for those who require a slope on their doorstep the house at the top of Holly Hill is on the market...

[url]http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-30305796.html[/url] ([url]http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-30305796.html[/url])

Cripes that looks a bit rough - I reckon it will need another £850K spending on it!  On the plus side it looks like you could turn all those downstairs bedrooms and games room into a very decent workshop!

I do hope somewhere will be flyable at the weekend as I'm getting stir crazy

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on February 11, 2015, 22:06:13 PM
What's the plan if it's doing the easterly thing on Saturday then?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on February 12, 2015, 06:32:46 AM
What's the plan if it's doing the easterly thing on Saturday then?
Home and a good book?!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on February 12, 2015, 08:04:02 AM
Met Office showing West, XC Weather showing East for Saturday.
I may just revert to seaweed and pine cones for what good the forecasts are!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on February 12, 2015, 10:06:46 AM
Friday looks good, if the rain holds off - I'm going to aim for a little Colley Hill session. The weekend winds do not look too promising...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Rob Thomson on February 12, 2015, 21:42:35 PM
Let me know if you go...   Nay join you.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on February 14, 2015, 16:53:56 PM
Hi Guys.

Slope Totty Comp...

What are the rules?

Haven't got a photo yet, but want to know the rules, just in case.

Cheers,

Jef
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on February 14, 2015, 17:01:28 PM
1. must be female

2. must be above the legal age of consent
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on February 15, 2015, 21:20:16 PM
Jef, I was disqualified last year as the judges reckoned that I had broken rule 2 twice,  >:(
The judges assessed that the girls in my photo were under 16, but I'm positive that they were at least 16 years and one day old. :''

PS - just back today from skiing in the mountains around Mont Blanc; lovely cloudless blue skies every day apart from the last one, when there was a little snow and broken cloud in the morning but but clear again by the afternoon . . . . .  and perfect pistes everywhere.  :)  :)

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on February 16, 2015, 18:33:51 PM
Have found some lovely ladies that definitely comply with both rules. Working at Broomfield Hospital has a fair few advantages like that, there are male nurses there, but the female ones seem to be far better looking, although this may be open to personal choice.

The tricky parts are going to be -
a) finding a slope nearby
b) photographing them while holding one of my beautiful gliders. (Not sure I will be able to maintain consciousness and a steady hand on the camera!)

 :D :D ;D ::)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on February 17, 2015, 06:30:13 AM
Bring them up to the slope Jeff - some of us could do with some female company!

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on February 17, 2015, 16:02:27 PM
Hmm, Thurnham tomorrow....


Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on February 17, 2015, 16:12:08 PM
Can't do a long session, but I might have a quick slot early afternoon. If today's weather os anything to go by it should be a superb day!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on February 17, 2015, 20:06:07 PM
I'll try to get there and if I do it will be mid afternoon for a quickie!  :xx
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: grj on February 17, 2015, 23:10:07 PM
Hmm, Thurnham tomorrow....


Si

Can you put the Luna joiner in your pocket Simon. Could well join you guys for a little while.

Graham
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on February 18, 2015, 06:48:17 AM
Can you put the Luna joiner in your pocket Simon. Could well join you guys for a little while.

Graham
I keep it in my flight case Graham for just such an eventuality!

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: grj on February 18, 2015, 08:20:59 AM
 :af
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on February 20, 2015, 18:19:54 PM
Good day at Countisbury  (Devon) today.

Hardly a breeze but any air has to go over the highest cliffs in Europe so plenty of lift. And sea thermals...then convergence thermals forming inland. Flew for nearly 3hrs non-stop.

Highly recommended!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on February 21, 2015, 07:52:32 AM
Ah yes, I've flown there, it's huge isn't it? Isolated place though, not really near anywhere else, and I think not often flown. Good on you for getting there in the winter!

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on February 21, 2015, 15:58:46 PM
Anyone game for Thurnham tomorrow?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on February 21, 2015, 21:23:51 PM
Sounds like plan Eric!

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on February 21, 2015, 22:43:36 PM
 :af  :)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on February 22, 2015, 07:01:17 AM
DIY mode for me chaps....have a good one!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on February 22, 2015, 10:12:44 AM
Woolacombe Down yesterday. Absolutely perfect conditions, apart from the intense cold, but I had the whole slope to myself and flew until 4.30pm.

So a good couple of days flying and I reckon that N Devon is one of the best places to fly as long as the wind direction is WSW through to NE.

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Eagle on February 22, 2015, 10:52:21 AM
Could not agree with you more Mark about slope soaring in North Devon. I, and my colleagues, had many a happy slope soaring holiday down there, flying from Woolacombe Down and Morte Point at nearby Mortehoe. We also use to fly from a field at Lobb, which overlooked RAF Chivenor and one could watch the Hawks taking off and landing there. Happy days !


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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on February 22, 2015, 16:27:42 PM
Slope report for Paul (we'll be in trouble if we don't post one!  ;) )

Just back from 'Mount Thurnham' and it did feel like that. In fact I was warmer in the French Alps last week at the top of a 7,000 foot mountain than I was at Thurnham today!!

The usual stalwarts were present apart from those sunning themselves in Devon  ;) and those who sensibly stayed indoors to do DIY and gain brownie points. ;)

Nothing much to report, lift was variable and no incidents apart from my last landing with my ASH 26 during which I caught a wing tip, flipped over and landed upside down. Luckily only pulled out an aileron horn and broke a canopy retainer . . . . but I'll have it all repaired this afternoon. :''
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on February 22, 2015, 18:21:29 PM
Absolutely freezing at Thurnham today despite what the Weather Man said the temperature was!

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on February 22, 2015, 23:08:12 PM
Best conditions at Hadleigh Castle (<10 minutes from home) for months... but I was helping others with their gliders, instead of going out flying.

What am I? nuts?

That will probably mark the end of the southerlies for a while!  :banghead: :banghead:

Jef
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on February 23, 2015, 08:21:20 AM
We also use to fly from a field at Lobb, which overlooked RAF Chivenor and one could watch the Hawks taking off and landing there. Happy days !

That SE slope above Lobb fields is fantastic with a nice landing area too, I gave it a go the year before last.
However the farmer was non too pleased even though I protested by innocence as I'd read that flying was allowed. According to local flyers he's been very reluctant to even talk with them about letting people fly there. A case of "get orf my laaand"!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Eagle on February 23, 2015, 10:32:49 AM
Hi again Mark,

It was back in the 1980's when we flew the SE slope at Lobb. I believe the land has changed hands since then, as I understand the local soarers were having trouble with the current farmer there. Shame really as it is a lovely site in a SE wind on a warm summers day!


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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on February 25, 2015, 19:31:01 PM
I'm considering the short sharp walk up Itford Hill on Friday if anyone cares to join me, it's been sometime since I've flown there and the wind direction looks spot on for most of the day.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on February 26, 2015, 10:41:07 AM
Sorry Mark, unable to join you tomorrow as I have to work.
Have a good one!  :af
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on February 26, 2015, 17:40:33 PM
I will probably wait until we have some south westerlies Mark and use the time to do some useful stuff like job hunting!

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Weds on February 26, 2015, 19:44:33 PM
I will probably wait until we have some south westerlies Mark and use the time to do some useful stuff like job hunting!

Si

Ditto... now I've joined the ranks of the unemployed  >:(
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on February 26, 2015, 20:25:55 PM
Ditto... now I've joined the ranks of the unemployed  >:(

Strangely, I am in an extraordinary career position.

Luckily, since August 2014, I have had a temporary job (about 20 miles from home). Last week I was offered a permanent job at the same site, doing the same things.

This week I was offered two other jobs, one the same as I am currently doing, but elsewhere (6 miles from home), the other is also permanent, but back with my previous employer (7 miles away), where I must have impressed, as I was only there for 11 working days.

The phone never goes more than a couple of days without an agency asking if I would be able to attend an interview. Guess my CV is working quite well!

Being 55 was seen as over the hill a decade ago. My, how the world has changed!!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on February 26, 2015, 22:37:43 PM
Ditto... now I've joined the ranks of the unemployed  >:(
Sorry to hear your news Pete.
Best of luck with whatever you choose to do next.  :af
Eric
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on February 26, 2015, 23:48:53 PM
Ditto... now I've joined the ranks of the unemployed  >:(

See you at Itford then Pete?!

 ;)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Weds on February 27, 2015, 08:05:10 AM
See you at Itford then Pete?!

 ;)

I cant afford to drive all the way down there, not on £72 per week Job Seekers allowance :)

Its CV writing day today, not had to do that in 36 years  :embarassed:
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on February 27, 2015, 09:01:40 AM
Have a good one Mark....I would very much like to do Itford one day, though sadly today is not that day!

Pete, you can still cycle up the hill! Hope something comes up for you soon  :xx
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Weds on February 27, 2015, 11:37:35 AM
Have a good one Mark....I would very much like to do Itford one day, though sadly today is not that day!

Pete, you can still cycle up the hill! Hope something comes up for you soon  :xx

Thanks Paul..

I have cycled up that hill, I remember it when I cycled the whole of the South Downs Way in an organised event, there was a lunch stop just at the bottom, a lot of people took their lunch and cycled to the top of the hill and ate it there, I could see what looked like little ants going up the hill. When I rode up it myself I realised why they hadn't eaten at the bottom, nearly brought my lunch back up !  ;D
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on February 27, 2015, 15:04:56 PM
I cant afford to drive all the way down there, not on £72 per week Job Seekers allowance :)

Blimey is it that much?  I've never bothered signing on before but I might this time for nearly £300 a month!

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on February 27, 2015, 17:22:50 PM
Blimey is it that much?  I've never bothered signing on before but I might this time for nearly £300 a month!

Si

It's means tested, you won't get much if you have any income already (my pittance pension was enough for me to get nothing when I was out of work for 5 days in the summer).

If anyone wants me to cast my eye over their CV, send it to jef.ott at btinternet dot com - free of charge if you fly gliders.

Good luck.

Jef


Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Weds on February 27, 2015, 17:28:26 PM
It's means tested, you won't get much if you have any income already (my pittance pension was enough for me to get nothing when I was out of work for 5 days in the summer).

If anyone wants me to cast my eye over their CV, send it to jef.ott at btinternet dot com - free of charge if you fly gliders.

Good luck.

Jef

Theres 2 different JSA, one isn't means tested..
I may just take you up on that Jef if i may... (you have mail Jef)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Weds on February 27, 2015, 17:34:39 PM
Blimey is it that much?  I've never bothered signing on before but I might this time for nearly £300 a month!

Si

But you have to show that your actively looking for work. Spending time up the slope don't count  :)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on February 27, 2015, 17:52:06 PM
Theres 2 different JSA, one isn't means tested..
I may just take you up on that Jef if i may... (you have mail Jef)

Just received.

Jef
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Weds on February 27, 2015, 17:55:26 PM
Nothing received.

just to check - J E F . O T T @ B T I N T E R N E T . C O M

Jef

Ok, tried again :)

Just looked at my first post, put in OFF not OTT, twit  :)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on February 27, 2015, 18:12:48 PM
Not the greatest of days.

Due to the wind being decidedly on the light side I opted for Devils Dyke instead, hoping the higher slope would have a bit of a blow on top. The amount of paragliders thermalling away looked promising so I rigged the ASH31 and chucked her out...

...out into the deadest sinkiest air imaginable! I tried to sneak around to the paragliders side where it was slightly better but by this time they were coming down fast then me so I kept clear and using the vario eek'ed out the smallest thermal known to man, gained a few feet but it then passed through with the same type of sink behind it.

So I started positioning myself for an outlanding but it is so damn high there judging distance (which I'm usually ok with) was really hard. Anyway to cut a long story short I clipped a tree which spun the model down. Lots of damage to one wing and a few cracks and dents elsewhere, and I'm not really in a position to do big repairs at the moment.

So watch this space for a used Tangent ASH31 at a discount price!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on February 27, 2015, 18:23:26 PM
That's a bummer Mark.

Don't make any rash decisions yet.....leave her in a corner to sulk for a bit first. Then maybe try bribing a few likely suspects for a group fixit session on a non-flyable day perhaps?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on February 27, 2015, 19:32:24 PM
If Antonia from the Scale Soaring forum were on the team I think there maybe a chance...spar has gone on the bad wing :(

Plus I seem to have a couple of other repairs to do within the confines of a small space, so may sell them off to make space for the retail therapy I know feel I deserve!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Allen the soarer on February 27, 2015, 20:58:02 PM
4M Fox Sold but to a man who's local is the bwlch
So I feel like I have set a wild animal free  :af
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on February 28, 2015, 09:31:24 AM
Unless I am very much mistaken, Thurnham looks on tomorrow!.....

We can make it an unemployed benefit day - bring your own whips for the whip-round!

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on February 28, 2015, 09:52:09 AM
I'll donate a couple of cans of my favourite Branston Baked Beans to those recently made redundant to help keep the wolf from the door!  ;)
See you tomorrow.
Eric
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on February 28, 2015, 12:48:16 PM
The wind is perfect for Colley Hill today, but the drizzle won't let up, I don't think any flying is going to happen ... sigh ...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: JohnP on February 28, 2015, 13:33:50 PM
I was hoping I could get a trip to Colley Hill today too.  But the drizzle just keeps coming...  :'(
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on February 28, 2015, 15:38:06 PM
I may make it along to Thurnham tomorrow for a few hours in the morning...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on March 01, 2015, 19:03:40 PM
How was is today chaps? DIY minds need to know.....
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on March 01, 2015, 19:48:23 PM
Simon has a new trick..!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on March 01, 2015, 21:02:23 PM
It was great! (sorry Paul, but it was).

I couldn't believe the blow - wind measured at 41mph. Strangely it was not blown out, the lift was unusually good I thought. On my last flight at about 4pm it felt like it might have been almost the best lift I've ever flown at Thurnham ... or maybe I'm just a bit rusty and getting over-excited about it ...



Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on March 01, 2015, 21:54:58 PM
A good gathering of models and pilots in the sun at Thurnham today in a 40 mph blow. I flipped my ASH 26 over again on landing but no damage was  sustained. All models survived the blustery conditions intact.  :af

Simon and Pete are pictured with their cans of Branston baked beans which will keep them fed until the Job Seekers Allowance kicks in.   ;)
I had to make do with beef casserole, potatoes, carrots, broccoli and dumplings followed by spotted dick and custard.
No, I exaggerate about the dessert but the stew and dumplings were excellent after a day on the slope.  :)


Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on March 02, 2015, 10:11:56 AM
Good pics Eric. That last one came up a bit widened on my computer, which made me think of this:

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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Weds on March 02, 2015, 10:22:59 AM
Good pics Eric. That last one came up a bit widened on my computer, which made me think of this:


Now forever known as the Umpa Lumpas
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on March 02, 2015, 11:13:10 AM
I couldn't believe the blow - wind measured at 41mph. Strangely it was not blown out, the lift was unusually good I thought. On my last flight at about 4pm it felt like it might have been almost the best lift I've ever flown at Thurnham ... or maybe I'm just a bit rusty and getting over-excited about it ...

There was a very small band of exceptional lift, something I've never come across before. Considering it was very Westerly, and looking at the OS map and then the direction of the smoke at the bottom of the hill, it was occasionally slightly North of West which in normal conditions would make it almost unflyable. In fact if you got caught low down at that point it was a bit of a struggle.

I'm convinced there was some wave lift coming in from somewhere, it's something I want to learn more about so I'll post future findings here!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on March 02, 2015, 18:36:10 PM
Now forever known as the Umpa Lumpas

Don't put that on your CV though Pete!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on March 05, 2015, 17:44:02 PM
Wind looks Perfect for Thurnham on Saturday.

Got my pass stamped.  :uk:
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on March 05, 2015, 18:32:10 PM
Mark and I will be there tomorrow - and maybe Saturday and Sunday too!...

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Weds on March 05, 2015, 18:34:51 PM
Mark and I will be there tomorrow - and maybe Saturday and Sunday too!...

Si

I should be there tomorrow pm and probably Sat..
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on March 05, 2015, 20:06:50 PM
I've got Eleanor on Saturday so it'll be tomorrow from midday and, hangover allowing, Sunday afternoon...

May crack out the 1/3rd ASG29...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on March 05, 2015, 20:13:28 PM
I'll be dropping in for a couple of brief sessions at some point!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: JohnP on March 07, 2015, 14:16:25 PM
Wind looks good for Colley Hill at the moment - probably popping up there in a short while.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on March 07, 2015, 21:40:17 PM
Nice flying with Charlie, Eric P, Bob, et al at Thurnham today.

Broke my FlyFly Fox, but had a mighty fine time with the Calypso Contest again.

Great to finally meet some more of the Massive, including Weds.

Having trouble identifying some of the other fliers there though.

Here are some pics...

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on March 07, 2015, 23:01:15 PM
I didn't have time to get to Thurnham but I managed a quick fly at Colley Hill. Good to see JohnP there. I tried my Mig with the gyros but dinged it. No more gyros for me. I would rather rely on my own reflexes than on electronics that seem to be fighting against me. 
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on March 08, 2015, 10:22:33 AM
Hi Gary,

I feel your pain.

My little experience of gyros in gliders is similar.

I only had the gyro on elevator on a rocket glider. My thinking was that it would more or less maintain the nose up attitude required during launch, in fairness it seemed to cope with that well. However, when trying to maintain a thermal turn (it was an aileron/elevator model) it would gradually try and straighten out the pitching up required in a banked turn. (It was sensing a nose up acceleration and a constant elevator stick input, so as per its programming, it applied just enough down elevator to stop the turn, so the model flew banked but straight. When I saw this, I applied more up elevator, returning the model to its turn and moments later the gyro would stop it again. Frustrating to say the least.)

It is possible to have the gyro switchable from the Tx - and that would have improved things, but that meant more hardware on board, and every gram counts against your launch height in rocket gliding. So I didn't bother with it again.

Thumb sticks and Mk1 eyeballs are the best things for controlling (/crashing) gliders.

Jef   
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on March 08, 2015, 11:43:45 AM
Nice flying with Charlie, Eric P, Bob, et al at Thurnham today.
Broke my FlyFly Fox, but had a mighty fine time with the Calypso Contest again.
Great to finally meet some more of the Massive, including Weds.
Having trouble identifying some of the other fliers there though.
Here are some pics...
Nice photos.
To help you Jef, I can see Bob, Colin, Ray, Pete, David A, Charlie, Bob R, David S, Eric P and John.
Cheers, Eric.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: JohnP on March 08, 2015, 12:05:46 PM
Pleasant afternoon at Colley Hill yesterday, though the lift seemed not as good as you'd expect for the wind strength and direction.

One of the flyers was a visitor from Germany.  He did tell me his name, but I forgot it... :embarassed:  Anyway, he's been working over here for a few weeks and wanted to go flying so had popped over to Mick Charles Models and bought an ARTF 'leccy glider (Blaze, I think - or similar) which he brought along to fly.  He mentioned that he'd found the details of Colley Hill on slopehunter - so I was able to point a satisfied 'customer' in Gary's direction!  ;D
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on March 08, 2015, 18:52:40 PM
Hope you all had a god session today chaps, the weather looked great!

On a tenuously related subject, looks like they're going to start an attempt on the first non-stop, around the world solar powered flight tomorrow....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-31790875 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-31790875)

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Rob Thomson on March 08, 2015, 19:23:47 PM
Hi Gary,

I feel your pain.

My little experience of gyros in gliders is similar.

I only had the gyro on elevator on a rocket glider. My thinking was that it would more or less maintain the nose up attitude required during launch, in fairness it seemed to cope with that well. However, when trying to maintain a thermal turn (it was an aileron/elevator model) it would gradually try and straighten out the pitching up required in a banked turn. (It was sensing a nose up acceleration and a constant elevator stick input, so as per its programming, it applied just enough down elevator to stop the turn, so the model flew banked but straight. When I saw this, I applied more up elevator, returning the model to its turn and moments later the gyro would stop it again. Frustrating to say the least.)

It is possible to have the gyro switchable from the Tx - and that would have improved things, but that meant more hardware on board, and every gram counts against your launch height in rocket gliding. So I didn't bother with it again.

Thumb sticks and Mk1 eyeballs are the best things for controlling (/crashing) gliders.

Jef   


You are using the wrong type of gyro.

What you should use is a 3 axis stabiliser.  Not a gyro.

It works in a very different way. 

All it does is apply an opposite movement to any input that is applied - if there is no stick input.

As it re samples it's neutral all the time, the effect is to iron out turbulence.   

A gyro on the other hand tends to do a heading lock.   This is by and large a bad idea in any glider!

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: tilmanb on March 08, 2015, 19:34:04 PM
Agree. A stabilizer should never fight control inputs, ever! Or have any long term affects on heading. A well tuned stabilizer should only fight little wobbles.
Thermal soaring with stabilizer is questionable because it smooths out visual I indications of lift.
But anyway. You don't miss much. No need to try.
But your experience does sound a bit like user error. ;)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on March 08, 2015, 22:23:15 PM
Hope you all had a god session today chaps, the weather looked great!

Unfortunately God wasn't looking after today's fliers at Thurnham.
The weather was great but Alan T had a mid-air with another model and Simon entered a flat spin from which the Swift never recovered, very badly damaging the fuselage. However, I'm sure with his extensive rebuilding skills, it will be back in the air before long.

On a tenuously related subject, looks like they're going to start an attempt on the first non-stop, around the world solar powered flight tomorrow....
[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-31790875[/url] ([url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-31790875[/url])

Very impressive. Who's going to be the first to build a scale Solar Impulse Two, it should be very efficient.

PS - I'm still chuckling about your latest, very clever posting on Goodwind Soaring - well done Paul!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on March 09, 2015, 09:22:59 AM

Very impressive. Who's going to be the first to build a scale Solar Impulse Two, it should be very efficient.


The full size does look a like a model doesn't it! Huurumph! (by the way) just read that it's not a non-stop flight after all.

Sorry to hear about yesterday's incidents...hope moral has fully recovered.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: David A on March 09, 2015, 13:44:13 PM
Hi chaps, it was good to get back up to Thurnham Fri and Sat, sorry I missed you Eric. Sorry to hear about the Fox Simon.

Mark was very busy Fri  :)


Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on March 09, 2015, 20:55:27 PM
Hi David, I wasn't there on Fri and Sat, I was a few hundred miles south, 8,000 ft up in the French Alps.
I didn't get back to Thurnham until Sunday afternoon just after Si had his incident with the Swift, . . . thankfully not the Big Fox.
Cracking photo of Mark, Paul and Simon!  :af
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on March 09, 2015, 22:55:43 PM
...your experience does sound a bit like user error. ;)

Wish there was a more polite way of saying it, but you are wrong... my experience (in this case) was nothing like user error. The gyro functioned correctly while the model was under power. It was also good at penetrating back through turbulent air close to the ground, maintaining the set attitude regardless.

With constant input from the elevator stick in a thermal - ie the sticks are not moving because the model is set up in a smooth banked turn, with a fixed nose up pitch, the gyro HAS to fight against any accelerations in the directions that it is set to smooth (in this case pitch), so the Gyro MUST apply down elevator and ruin a perfectly set up turn.

And no, Rob, "heading lock" is something else, if I had had a rudder on that model, it is conceivable that it may have completed a yawed flat turn on rudder alone with the elevator gyro preventing the nose from dropping.

Thanks both for your input, but please take a moment to reconsider.

Best regards,

Jef.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Allen the soarer on March 10, 2015, 08:10:36 AM
Currently Sundays looking like an epic Bopeep day  :af
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on March 10, 2015, 10:55:07 AM
According to Weatherspark and yr.no, Saturday is looking better Allen.  ;D

Si, Paul, Mark, Pete, Charlie, David, anyone up for it? - Glidermobile at the ready!   :)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on March 10, 2015, 11:50:44 AM
Sounds good to me

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Weds on March 10, 2015, 12:07:42 PM
According to Weatherspark and yr.no, Saturday is looking better Allen.  ;D

Si, Paul, Mark, Pete, Charlie, David, anyone up for it? - Glidermobile at the ready!   :)

I'm ok for Saturday..
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Allen the soarer on March 10, 2015, 15:17:53 PM
Saturdays carrying to much east IMHO
But the bowl to the farrrrrrrrrrr east of the carpark will take an ENE if your bringing large toys and fancy some excersize
I think I will stick with Sunday
Better lift to wind speed IMHO :)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on March 10, 2015, 17:37:25 PM
Wind speed looks to be less on Sunday, direction the same both days, and I'd rather be standing in sunshine than the rain, so it's Saturday for me.

However, this all may be rather academic as we have to abide by Paul's 'Three Day Rule' and conditions will most probably change. Let's wait and see what Thursday brings.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on March 10, 2015, 19:37:09 PM
XC Weather has it NE on Sunday, same wind strength but not as sunny...I'm at the whim of the what ex's/solicitors allow me to do anyway :(
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: David A on March 11, 2015, 08:04:51 AM
I'm good for Saturday chaps. I really want to get the Blanik out again but I'll see what you're suggesting nearer the time.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on March 11, 2015, 19:08:46 PM
XC Weather now showing Saturday as the better one!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on March 11, 2015, 19:57:15 PM
Weatherspark and yr.no still showing Sat as the better day.  :)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on March 13, 2015, 10:06:13 AM
Sat or Sun chaps? Sun now showing better weather but Sat looks better windwise..

I can do one or the other but need to make a decision asap!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on March 13, 2015, 11:11:26 AM
I think Saturday from yr weather forecast...

Simon
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on March 13, 2015, 11:24:16 AM
Decision made. No going back now!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on March 13, 2015, 14:08:37 PM
Have a good one chaps, I shall be continuing to knock a dirty great hole in the back of my house!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on March 14, 2015, 08:40:52 AM
Darn it, I can't make it, and the conditions look really good. Have a great day!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on March 15, 2015, 12:10:55 PM
Thanks Paul and Gary, we did have a good time.

A good, but not epic, day at BoPeep yesterday having arrived before 10am. Ok in the morning with periods of sunshine in the brisk north easterly but we were able to make camp behind the gorse bushes to keep comfortable while flying and nattering. After lunch it seemed to get a bit chillier and we left by about 2:30pm.

Simon brought along his mid-size ASG29 which he hooned about with great aplomb, although he wished that he had taken the big Purbeck Fox as the conditions were perfect. I should have taken mine as well although it's going to be a tight squeeze to get both of them into the Glidermobile!

Mark had servo troubles with both his models so not a good day for him preventing him from flying his nearly 7 metre jobbie, but luckily the servo in his Swift only let him down after he had had two flights!

David brought along his refurbished 5 metre ASW17 which he flew very convincingly but which I found quite slippery to launch.

Once again I hooned about with my ASH 26 and had three successful flights although on the last landing a 4-wheel drive vehicle suddenly appeared over the hill right where I was about to land. Luckily I still had some speed in hand just before I was about to open the airbrakes and was able to quickly gain some height and go 'round again. Phew!!

General view of the assembled gathering
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Mark, Dave(?) and Simon
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Mark, Simon flying from a very comfortable position  :) and David
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Simon looking somewhat slimmer than he is pictured in Gary's recent  'Umpa Lumpas' photo.
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Watch out, there's another Dickies Onesie about!
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Here's to the next time!

Eric

PS - Last evening I attended a charity auction for the local Rotary Club and managed to raise £90 for good causes by offering a couple of buddy box sessions on my Multiplex Cularis. I have done this four times before raising a fair amount of money for local causes, but the winners have never redeemed their vouchers, so it will be interesting to see if last night's successful bidders do actually make it to the slope for their ab initio sessions.

If anyone fancies offering the services of their model and themselves to raise money for charities, I have produced an information sheet and voucher for the successful bidders. Both are written in non-modeller language and I am happy to send them to anyone wishing raise money for charities, but they will need modifying slightly to suit your model and location.

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on March 15, 2015, 13:25:55 PM
I'm still thawing out.
Yup...plagued with servo issues yesterday, an expensive Hitec digital gave up even tho it was tested the eve before and I couldn't get it out to replace as the connector had snagged in the tail.
Managed to do inverted flat spins with the Swift before it got too cold to fly/flap servo issues stopped play, not as hard as I thought but you do need height...take note Simon!
I thought the lift would've been better though, it didn't have the usual height associated with the wind speed. No idea why...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on March 15, 2015, 21:27:19 PM
You guys are well hard, flying in such cold conditions!

And none of this sort of malarky:

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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on March 16, 2015, 07:14:58 AM
Ah my unsuccessful dalliance with PSS!

4 great photos Gary - what/who was the last one - that was quite a spectacular re-kitting!

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on March 16, 2015, 08:03:04 AM
Ah yes Allen's Fox, now retired to a quiet life in Wales.
I hope you had a good day yesterday Allen, we were hoping you might have changed your mind and joined us on Saturday.  ;)  :)

Simon about to give the Rippin Fox the heave-ho prior to the spectacular landing sequence captured by GP.!
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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on March 16, 2015, 23:10:39 PM
Ah my unsuccessful dalliance with PSS!

4 great photos Gary - what/who was the last one - that was quite a spectacular re-kitting!

Si
+1!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on March 18, 2015, 20:43:43 PM
Actually I wasn't going to say who did those butter smooth landings, out of respect for the feelings of any new owners who might chance upon our fine thread ...

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on March 19, 2015, 20:39:03 PM
I think everyone knew who the owner of the Fox was, as Allen plastered photos of it all over the web in his efforts to find it a new owner.
It wasn't the smoothest of landings but it sure was entertaining and the model survived the experience with barely a scratch!  :af

I remember seeing the crash in photo 4, but I can't remember who was the pilot, and hopefully he was the owner.
Go on Gary, tell us whose it was.  :)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on March 19, 2015, 22:06:14 PM
Let's just say that those four photos covered two pilots.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on March 19, 2015, 22:08:23 PM
I see Detling is in the news as a spot where illegal immigrants are sneaked from van to van.

Better check our car boots just in case there is someone hiding under the wing bags!






Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on March 23, 2015, 10:51:29 AM
Thurnham looks as though it could be pleasant today.  :)  :co
I'll be popping up there after lunch for a couple of hours, anyone else going to be there?
Eric
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on March 23, 2015, 16:31:44 PM
Sorry couldn't make it today Eric - hope it was good

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on March 23, 2015, 16:34:10 PM
Thought I could see a couple of fliers up on the hill when I was on the M 20 this morning, hope a good session was had by all!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on March 23, 2015, 20:42:29 PM
No one else was there this afternoon Paul so I had a solitary session flying the Silent Dream and Salome which was all the conditions were able to support, so it wouldn't have suited you Si.

There were a couple of paragliders who managed less than five minutes of flight between them all afternoon, but I had a good hour or more in the air. I was indicating thermals for them but they just couldn't make contact. They were reduced to having 30 second flights straight to the bottom of the hill.

Interestingly at about 4:30pm the wind completely died just as I launched the Silent Dream again but it stayed up in very buoyant air for the next 15 minutes; I presume it was warm air being released from the woods and fields below migrating up the slope as the air surrounding air cooled . By then the paragliders had started packing their gear away so they missed out - it was definitely a day for having the right tools for the job.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on March 24, 2015, 06:14:18 AM
Looks like I made the right decision then - I spent the afternoon trying to start my mower for the firstcut of tthe season, but it will only start and run on full choke.  I guess the idle circuit jet are gummed up with old fuel (modern fuel is appalling for this) so I'll have to remove the carb and run it through my ultrasonic cleaner.

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: BLADE1 on March 26, 2015, 09:51:58 AM
This is a glider forum!! not a fuc!ed up mower forum!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on March 26, 2015, 18:19:58 PM
I keep getting into trouble on glider forums!  I mentioned motorcycles on the UK Scale Forum and Barry almost banned me!

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on March 26, 2015, 20:56:06 PM
There was a lawnmower rc plane that someone was flying at shows a few years ago ... but Simon, don't you dare turn up at Turnham with a mower glider, we don't need the tone lowered any more than it already is ...
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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on March 27, 2015, 10:08:32 AM
Simon, I assumed you were still fully on topic and getting your mower ready to cut a landing strip up at Thurnham for us all....
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on March 27, 2015, 10:46:12 AM
Absolutely Paul!

On another glider related topic, I've been attempting to make another pilot for the back seat of the Nimbus and I am thinking about ordering some 1/4 scale seatbelts from Topmodel but they only cost Euro 8 so the postage is going to be disproportionate - anyone else need anything from there to share the postage?

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on March 28, 2015, 00:35:14 AM
Anyone going to Thurnham over the weekend?  :xx  :co
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on March 28, 2015, 10:37:18 AM
I'd like to, although weather looks dubious.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on March 28, 2015, 10:53:41 AM
I'm going to give it a go soon...

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on March 29, 2015, 11:21:02 AM
It was pretty windy on the slope yesterday, even more so today, and as I didn't have a suitable heavy weather model with me, I just had a good catchup and natter with the hardy souls already there.

Charlie mentioned that there was an indoor meeting at Rochester in the evening, so I attended and got my share of stick-time at that venue instead. Charlie displayed his ever improving prowess at flying his very light shockies and I'll be posting a video demonstrating his skills in this area on my YouTube channel later today.

David Ashby from the RCM&E recently visited Thurnham to give his new 4.2 metre Blackhorse Blanik its first outing on the slope, abley launched by Simon.
He has produced a excellent review of the model in the April issue of the magazine and is well worth a read as he also compares it with its direct competitor, the E-flite Blanik also 4.2 metres wingspan.
http://www.modelflying.co.uk/news/article/it's-rcme's-132-page-april-2015-issue-preview/20837 (http://www.modelflying.co.uk/news/article/it's-rcme's-132-page-april-2015-issue-preview/20837)

For those of you who didn't remember to put their clocks forward and get up early to watch the F1 race from Maylaysia, the winner was . . . . . . .  ;)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: jonniebgood on March 30, 2015, 13:03:26 PM
Was it Jim Clark, by any chance?? :''
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on March 30, 2015, 19:37:29 PM
No Rip Van Winkle, it wasn't - things have changed a bit while you have been asleep!!  ;D
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on April 02, 2015, 23:59:19 PM
Happy Easter everyone.

 :)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on April 03, 2015, 08:42:50 AM
Anyone aiming to fly over Easter? I'm watching the forecast closely. I suspect on the days I can do, the weather won't be right, and on the days I can't do, it will be perfect...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on April 03, 2015, 08:56:15 AM
I plan to fly on either Saturday or Sunday Gary, if the weather is right.  Going to a motorcycle thing on Monday.

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on April 03, 2015, 09:24:34 AM
If the rain holds off I may chance Thurnham later, then the next opportunity I'll get will be Tuesday...which at the moment looks like Bo Peep...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on April 03, 2015, 10:33:03 AM
I'm OK for Saturday or Sunday Si, and I might pop up to Thurnham around lunchtime today Mark.  :)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on April 03, 2015, 12:20:33 PM
Let us know if there's any air movement Eric, all the observation sites are saying Southerly and virtually wind-still :(
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on April 03, 2015, 12:24:26 PM
I was going to cheat and take a couple of planes with whirly things on the front just in case.  :xx
I'll text you when I get there in about an hour's time.

IOS Club shows SSE Force 3-4 and Headcorn shows SSW 6MPH
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on April 03, 2015, 18:02:57 PM
I'll still be in demolition mode most of the weekend I afraid chaps  :'(
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on April 03, 2015, 19:19:09 PM
Sorry you can't make it Brains, but it looks like 'Thunderbirds Are Go' tomorrow morning, landing at Bopeep Lane at 10:00hrs and returning at 17:00hrs to take part in the new series on ITV.  ;)  ;D  :D

Edit: Owing to the inclement weather, Thunderbirds are grounded for most of today and will be taking the opportunity to carry out maintenance of their craft at Tracey Island today (i.e. Si's workshop), ready for lift-off at 5pm.  ;)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on April 04, 2015, 10:06:51 AM
Weather looks a bit miserable today so Eric and I are going to have a building day - making a canopy surround for his Big Fox

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Davetronic on April 04, 2015, 17:10:33 PM
I thought I would yet add another unfinished model to my collection and having never had an electric glider thought I would try the Phoenix 2000.
Apart from the useless Chinglish instructions (Connect wing with wood stick and screw), and having to do several mods to get things working correctly, it seemed a reasonably cheap way of getting some experience on a four servo wing before flying my unmaidened mouldie. It had way too many screws provided of multitudinous types which made a basically simple assembly quite confusing at first. It also came with flap servos installed whilst the advert said these were extra so a bit of a result I guess.
When I came to mount the recommended1800 LiPo I found that it was halfway off the back of the battery tray and half under the wing to get the recommended CoG. If anyone has ever owned one of those can they advise me if this is normal or am I making some dreadful blunder? And is there an easy way to disconnect XT60 connectors?
Last question, does one normally put an in-line switch between the LiPo signal cable and the Rx, or is this just adding more potential problems?
Cheers
Dave
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on April 04, 2015, 17:39:05 PM
XT60 are the best connectors IMHO Dave but if they are a bit tight put a bit of dielectric grease on them and I'll make it easier

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on April 04, 2015, 17:55:42 PM
Hi Dave, Good to hear from you.

Model looks good so you should have some fun with it.

Regarding the C of G, if it balances at a point about a third of the way back from the leading edge, you shouldn't be far out and it should be safe at that location.

You refer to  'the LIPO signal cable' but I presume that you actually mean the cable from the ESC (electronic speed controller) that ends in a standard servo lead type plug. This should be plugged into the throttle channel of the receiver and left there permanently - no switch is required. Hopefully your Chinglish instructions tell you how to set up the speed controller, although they quite often work in a basic configuration without setting up.

When you are ready to power up, turn on the Tx first, making sure that the throttle stick and its trim are in the fully closed position. Then keeping a good hold of the model and keeping clear of the prop just in case the motor starts, plug in your XT60 connectors. There should be some audible or visual indication that the system has powered up and the controls should all now work.

Edit : Be careful if you have Futaba radio as the throttle channel works the wrong way round and you normally have to reverse the channel on the Tx.

Yes, XT60 connectors are initially a tight fit and rest assured they do ease up a bit after some use. They are excellent as there is no chance of plugging them in the wrong way round - I use them on my Multiplex Cularis and I'm very pleased with them.

The Phoenix 2000 will most probably be very fast and twitchy so be ready for it on your first flight (set up dual rates for safety) - best to get someone else launch it for you initially. I have a Multiplex Blizzard with a brushless motor, it's a similar size to the Phoenix 2000 and it goes like stink!

Enjoy - Eric
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on April 04, 2015, 18:05:45 PM
Weather looks a bit miserable today so Eric and I are going to have a building day - making a canopy surround for his Big Fox
Si
Ooops - Just found a text message from Mark timed at 10:06hrs - "Am at Firle . . . it's great!!"

Ah well, progress was made with getting my Big Fox back into the air, with Si building the frame for the replacement front canopy which I lost at 1,000ft over the North London MFC field in Baldock. Now that Si has set me on the right track it shouldn't take me too long to get both front and rear canopies completed. Simon also repaired the cracked boom on my Valenta 'Storm, so that should be back in the air again soon.

Many, many thanks Si.  :af
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on April 04, 2015, 18:24:07 PM
Quote
Ooops - Just found a text message from Mark timed at 10:06hrs - "Am at Firle . . . it's great!!"

It was! There was a patch of lovely smooth lift, decent clarity and by hiding behind the bushes, it was actually great. After a week of being grounded it was nice to get out for just a few hours, I'd left by noon so as to pick up my daughter...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on April 05, 2015, 06:09:45 AM
Glad you got out Mark.  BTW my mobile number isn't working at the moment - the "one day" transfer to my new provider and phone is going to take 7 days apparently!

Hope the canopy frame releases from the fuz OK this morning Eric!


Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on April 05, 2015, 08:56:32 AM
Good to hear you got some flying done at Firle, Mark. It looked so gloomy and damp I didn't attempt to go flying.

I hoped today might be good, but the forecast has changed and it seems there is not going to be enough wind.

I can't do tomorrow, although the conditions look like they might be quite good.

I can do Tuesday, but the current forecast is saying virtually no wind.

Oh well ...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on April 05, 2015, 09:57:06 AM
Hope the canopy frame releases from the fuz OK this morning Eric!
Si
After a bit of a fight I managed to get the frame to release intact - it looks great. The Storm fuz is solid as a rock as well. Thanks again.  :af
I'll start on the rear frame today, . . . after I've done the gardening tasks that 'her outdoors' has lined up for me.  :'(
Might have a quick fly at Minster later this afternoon.  :)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Davetronic on April 05, 2015, 10:31:17 AM
You refer to  'the LIPO signal cable' but I presume that you actually mean the cable from the ESC (electronic speed controller)
Enjoy - Eric
Absolutely correct! Thanks for the advice, much appreciated. The flaps & ailerons are on Y leads as supplied, so to get crow brakes I'll have to send off for some servo extension leads. I never thought I'd miss Notcutts!
Cheers
Dave
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on April 05, 2015, 16:10:13 PM
Pleased to hear you are getting it sorted, Dave

Regarding your bits and pieces, don't forget that ModelWorld are now in Sittingbourne.
Give them a call to find out if they've got what you want in stock.
http://www.modelworlduk.com/ (http://www.modelworlduk.com/)
https://www.facebook.com/modelworlduk (https://www.facebook.com/modelworlduk)

Also there's a model shop in Ashford that you may find easier to get to.
http://www.ashfordmodel.co.uk/ (http://www.ashfordmodel.co.uk/)

Just finished the fencing and mowing the lawns so I'm going for a quick fly before dinner.  :D

Cheers, Eric
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: nyeregis on April 05, 2015, 19:32:28 PM
I have been flying a Phoenix for 3 years & swear by it.  It is no hot liner but has a decent rate of climb & makes a terrific slope soarer, it is moderately aerobatic in both guises.  The fuselage is all but indestructible & the wings survived being knocked out  of the big trees at Thurnham -unbeatable VFM!

Mine is rigged for crow braking but the flaps do not droop enough to provide a lot of drag.  The wings may be joined by a length of 3mm ply but the C/F tube & the inserts have so far proven to be "sufficiently strong!

Speedster Den's Utube footage is well worth watching.

Tony
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on April 07, 2015, 11:26:41 AM
LOST...wind/blow//breeze/air movement!

If found please let me know when and where. I'm on my Easter break, the car has a full tank of fuel and the sun is shining...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on April 07, 2015, 11:36:44 AM
....guaranteed to return on the first day back at work.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on April 07, 2015, 18:45:40 PM
Mark, I met some guys on the Isle of Sheppey on Sunday evening, and one of them, Gary, (who bought Simon's Candida), offered to do aerotows for glider flyers at the sports field that they use .

I think he would be able to tow up to 5 metre wing span (he has a T240) but I'm not sure if you have anything towable that small. Let me know if you want to take up his offer and I'll get in touch.  :)

PS - Friday is looking good, if light, for somewhere on the North Downs. :D
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on April 07, 2015, 20:31:41 PM
I think he would be able to tow up to 5 metre wing span (he has a T240) but I'm not sure if you have anything towable that small. Let me know if you want to take up his offer and I'll get in touch.  :)
PS - Friday is looking good, if light, for somewhere on the North Downs. :D

Nope...my ASH31 was 4.5m, but I think it's more to do with weight than wingspan. Perhpas that s/h LET ASH26 with the up and go for sale on the Topmodel .fr site isn't such a bad idea after all!

I'm going to be watching forecast like a hawk over the next few days, I'm determined to get some flying in...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on April 08, 2015, 08:06:43 AM
We might get a light wind flight in at Wrotham tomorrow Mark?

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on April 08, 2015, 17:36:07 PM
At the moment tomorrow is looking very light but Friday is looking hopeful. Although it keeps changing...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on April 08, 2015, 22:30:53 PM
Looking like a Holly day on Friday.  :)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on April 09, 2015, 10:31:39 AM
Day 3 on the Island of Windstill...
I'm on the cusp of trekking down to Eastbourne to fly at Beach Head today, I fear it'll be paraglider'd out though.
Tomorrow is looking promising for Wrotham...fingers crossed.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on April 09, 2015, 11:20:12 AM
Very frustrating isn't it?  I guess I'd better start applying for jobs then!  :''

Good news is that I will join you tomorrow at Wrotham if the forecast stays good...

Si

The damn mobile number transfer doesn't seem to have worked so I think neither of them work now!  >:(
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on April 10, 2015, 09:11:43 AM
Well, the wind is currently SE (9am Friday) and is predicted to swing to S by lunchtime. So Wrotham could be good for the middle part of the day. But if the wind doesn't swing quite as forecast it could be a Holly Hill day, or perhaps even a Thurnham day later.

Any thoughts/plans/hopes/desires?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on April 10, 2015, 09:51:10 AM
I will be going up to Wrotham about 11:00 and if that is no good trying Holly

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on April 10, 2015, 09:57:29 AM
I'm watching my car being MOTd at present so I'll catch up with you guys around lunchtime wherever you may be. Eric
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on April 10, 2015, 17:29:35 PM
Wrotham was rubbish for Mark, Gary and I until Gary left about 3pm and then the lift turned out to be epic (sorry Gary!).
Mark and I both spec'd out regularly and could do hooligan manoeuvres from height and then go straight back up again.

It's a strange slope Wrotham, but when it works it is a really nice place to fly

Si 
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on April 10, 2015, 19:00:29 PM
It was rather good in the end!
And the strange thing is when the lift kicked off there was hardly any wind...it was just really steady with the odd boomer thermal coming through, and no sink.
Just glad to finally get some flying in at last...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on April 10, 2015, 19:19:17 PM
My car failed its MOT. :'(
So I spent a few hours sorting out the issues then had a relaxing Billy-No-Mates hour floating about at Thurnham. :)

And the strange thing is when the lift kicked off there was hardly any wind...it was just really steady with the odd boomer thermal coming through, and no sink.
I had a very similar experience at Thurnham a couple of weeks ago.
It's quite often the woods giving off the stored heat at the end of the day. This often happens at fly-off round  time at the end of thermal soaring competitions, when the last round flyers launch and then head to the woods to catch the warm air rising from the trees as the surrounding air cools.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on April 10, 2015, 22:10:18 PM
I don't believe you, Mark and Simon. It was dismal when I was there and it cannot have suddenly improved just because I left. My theory is you inhaled too much ammonia off the cow dung and started hallucinating.

Plane landing out:

[attachimg=1]

Manly launch to no avail:

[attachimg=2]
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on April 11, 2015, 19:46:45 PM
Chuckies in the park today ... got to get them started somewhere ... aim to have them doing aerobatics with a 7 meter Paritech by the time they're 10



Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on April 11, 2015, 21:28:43 PM
Some of those launches have been seen before at Thurnham!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on April 11, 2015, 22:45:54 PM
Ha! You're so right!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on April 12, 2015, 08:18:04 AM
Looking forward to a great Thurnham day today - but will there be any Big Fox launchers available?

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on April 12, 2015, 09:16:30 AM
I may be along to spectate for a while around 2-3ish, but with my 3yr old as well...limited time for bung'age.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on April 12, 2015, 09:33:16 AM
I'll bring the ASG29 instead of the Fox on balance

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on April 12, 2015, 10:50:07 AM
Just my luck, on a cracking day like today, I've got a pre-arranged family Sunday lunch at Dover. :'(,
 . . . . but I might be able to have a quick fly later this afternoon. :)
Have a good session guys. :D
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on April 12, 2015, 11:05:34 AM
Yes, I don't have enough free time to drive out to Thurnham ... but I am fitting in a little fly at Colley Hill at about 11.30am
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on April 12, 2015, 18:38:26 PM
Best day in living memory at Thurnham! (I have a terrible memory, but you know what I mean...).

The only downside was I missed all the regulars.  Having said that there was a good turnout of new recruits from various locations and my small ASG29 was clocked at 135 mph with a speed gun!

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: JohnP on April 12, 2015, 19:25:47 PM
... but I am fitting in a little fly at Colley Hill at about 11.30am

I was up there later on - from around 3-5pm.  It was blowing half a gale, more or less straight onto the slope (or so it seemed) when I arrived, though became much more westerly later on.  Lift was very variable!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on April 12, 2015, 22:11:22 PM
Yes, the lift was variable at Colley Hill when I was there at midday. I think the wind was a bit too westerly. Which meant it was perfect for Thurnham.



Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on April 12, 2015, 22:29:07 PM
Best day in living memory at Thurnham! (I have a terrible memory, but you know what I mean...).
:'(  :'(  :'( Sounds like it would have been a cracking day for getting our two Big Foxes into the air together, Si.

The only downside was I missed all the regulars.  Having said that there was a good turnout of new recruits from various locations and my small ASG29 was clocked at 135 mph with a speed gun!
Si
:af 
:D

The only redeeming feature of the day was that lunch was excellent!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on April 13, 2015, 12:17:19 PM
Tuesday/Wednesday look like they may be more epic days at Thurnham for those of us "lucky" enough to be unemployed!

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on April 13, 2015, 12:21:22 PM
Tuesday/Wednesday look like they may be more epic days at Thurnham for those of us "lucky" enough to be unemployed!

I blame Paul W for his comment about it all coming good when I return to work.
Paul….could you say that I'll win the EuroMillions this Friday please?  :af
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: peter_burgess on April 14, 2015, 10:38:38 AM
Wind is looking promising for Bopeep on Thursday and Friday
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on April 14, 2015, 18:29:45 PM
6 1/2 hour shift at Thurnham today and it was pretty wonderful!

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on April 14, 2015, 19:06:09 PM
6 1/2 hour shift at Thurnham today and it was pretty wonderful!

You are so cruel!

Hope to be at Bo Peep on Friday for a similar length of time...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on April 14, 2015, 20:49:49 PM
13 hour shift digging foundations today, good to hear you were up there making use of it Simon!!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on April 14, 2015, 21:17:43 PM
6 1/2 hour shift at Thurnham today and it was pretty wonderful!
Si
5 1/2 hour shift for me - I had to work his morning.
Great weather, good company but we were missing some familiar faces, however we also met some new ones. Welcome to the slope Steve, first time sloper.
Regular entertainment slots were provided by Duke and Ray! ;)

Simon doesn't know it yet, but he came very close to having a port wing failure whilst flying David S' ASW17. David was still flying when Simon departed and on landing the '17, post flight inspection revealed two serious chordwise cracks/creases at 1/3rd and 2/3rd span. The port wing could very easily have folded mid-air so David has decided to completely glass both wings to create a solid repair. We had wondered why the wing was bending so much when pulling out of dives.  :''
A close shave!!

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: David Seton on April 14, 2015, 21:28:59 PM
A beautiful afternoon at Thurnham. I managed to over stress both wings on the 5 meter Pat Teakle ASW17 . We all thought the wings were flapping well!!  Because of this I am going to have to glass the wings. Any thoughts on the weight of glass and design of the carbon reinforcement would be appreciated

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on April 14, 2015, 22:51:32 PM
I had a Pat Teakle with glassed wings and it flew very well but the wings were heavy. I suggest using the thinnest glass you think you can get away with. Others will have more expertise than me and no doubt will chip in.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on April 15, 2015, 07:02:51 AM
You are so cruel!

Hope to be at Bo Peep on Friday for a similar length of time...

I'll keep you company Mark!

A beautiful afternoon at Thurnham. I managed to over stress both wings on the 5 meter Pat Teakle ASW17 . We all thought the wings were flapping well!!  Because of this I am going to have to glass the wings. Any thoughts on the weight of glass and design of the carbon reinforcement would be appreciated



I'm happy to take a look at it and give you my opinion David.  Gary is right though I think we need to be a bit careful not to add too much weight (but from memory I think Gary's weighed about twice what you're does!)

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on April 15, 2015, 13:48:02 PM
I think Gary and Simon are right David. Cut some span-wise slots across the creases and make up some spars to glue in. Taper their ends so you build in another place for the wings to start failing. Far quicker and more effective than glassing.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on April 15, 2015, 15:59:50 PM
I'll keep you company Mark!
Si
:)  I'm OK for Friday - conditions are looking excellent !  :)

Edit:
Si, Completed the CV joints gaiter replacements yesterday evening, so subject to passing the MOT retest today, the Glidermobile will be 'good-to-go' to the South Downs tomorrow morning.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: David Seton on April 15, 2015, 17:05:02 PM
Thanks for the thought Paul, the repair is almost complete!! - just need to cover it.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on April 16, 2015, 22:45:29 PM
I'm thinking of heading southdownwards on Friday morning ... I'll check the forecast first thing.

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on April 17, 2015, 06:42:53 AM
There will be a number of us at Bopeep Gary....

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on April 17, 2015, 08:19:41 AM
I'll be there with Duo Discus.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on April 17, 2015, 08:23:29 AM
Can't bring mine I'm afraid - it's in the workshop finally being painted!

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on April 17, 2015, 19:50:59 PM
Cracking session at BoPeep today. The locals said it was the best conditions for ages!  :af

John Phillips greeted us with his usual friendly words. "Oh no, what are you lot doing here?"
He said that he recently visited the Garden of England's slopes, but without getting a pass from us first - naughty John. ;)  Good to see him in fine fettle, with a smart new aircraft.  :)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on April 17, 2015, 21:57:09 PM
One of Paul's excellent videos of us flying at Bopeep exactly 6 years ago:

https://vimeo.com/4259094

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on April 18, 2015, 07:31:03 AM
Just about recovered from near 8hrs of Bo Peep action. I'm absolutely knackered, after a winter of fast blast flying action I'm out of shape when it comes to long sessions of flying.
What a day!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on April 18, 2015, 08:19:10 AM
One of Paul's excellent videos of us flying at Bopeep exactly 6 years ago:
https://vimeo.com/4259094
I thought I'd viewed all of Paul's sloping videos, but that was a new one on me - cracking!  :D
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: peter_burgess on April 18, 2015, 09:22:32 AM
Looking out of my front door it looks like Bopeep will provide more action today  :)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: peter_burgess on April 18, 2015, 09:26:16 AM
Cracking session at BoPeep today. The locals said it was the best conditions for ages!  :af

It would be interesting to know who was flying on the east/righthand side of Bopeep yesterday
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on April 18, 2015, 10:02:26 AM
I believe that was the LGRA guys. They feel that location about 800 yards east of the Bopeep carpark has the smoothest lift. But it's quite a long walk so I only make it there occasionally.

Here's one of their videos:

https://vimeo.com/66713521
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on April 18, 2015, 10:10:46 AM
I annoy myself by always remembering the silliest things rather than the important stuff - I remember the LGRA guys telling me how dismayed they were when they found out that their LGRA name (which actually stands for Let's Go Round Again) was shared by the Liberty Gay Rodeo Association.

[attachimg=1]
The LGRA guys on a hot day at the slope
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on April 18, 2015, 10:46:35 AM
I believe that was the LGRA guys. They feel that location about 800 yards east of the Bopeep carpark has the smoothest lift. But it's quite a long walk so I only make it there occasionally.

Here's one of their videos:
https://vimeo.com/66713521 (https://vimeo.com/66713521)
. . . and here's an excellent video by 'Mr Goodwind', shot at the east BoPeep site a couple of summers ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wiii-zWHsQU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wiii-zWHsQU)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on April 18, 2015, 12:14:41 PM
As I watched that I thought "Who is that old duffer launching my PrismaRay? ... oh heck, it's me!"

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on April 18, 2015, 17:38:22 PM
Simon mentioned yesterday that he thought our model scalies are not actually very scale, for instance the chord is bigger. It reminded me I made this photo of a real Duo Discus flying past Bopeep with my model Duo Discus (which was also flying at Bopeep that day) photoshopped onto the pic. (Obviously this is not a real pic of two gliders flying far too close.)

Allowing for the slightly different angle, they look pretty close, don't they?

Also, my pilots, which I've always thought were maybe slightly too big, seem if anything a fraction smaller than the real pilots.





Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on April 18, 2015, 19:11:31 PM
Also while looking through old pics I came across this one which made me laugh ... imagine trying to set this up, you'd never manage it:

[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: JohnP on April 18, 2015, 21:22:04 PM
Nice one Gary.  I always wondered what crow brakes were.  ;)

(I'll now step back whilst everyone tells me it's actually a rook or a raven or something...)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on April 18, 2015, 21:23:35 PM
The aspect ratio of your Discus does look very similar to the full size Gary - but it doesn't seem to usually be the case - I would still say that generally models tend to increase the chord size versus scale (and for good reason).

Don't get Mark started on tailplane size...!

Simon
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on April 19, 2015, 08:45:29 AM
As I watched that I thought "Who is that old duffer launching my PrismaRay? ... oh heck, it's me!"
Yes Gary, the same thing happened to me years ago.

We used to take part in the town twinning event between Deal and Vlissingen in Holland flying in a weekend thermal soaring competition.
When the photos came back from the developers, as we used to do in the olden days, there was a picture of the Deal contingent standing on a bridge over a canal.
I then spotted a bald old fella on the end of the line.
Strange I thought, I wonder who that is and then when I looked very closely, I realised it was me - my crest was well and truly fallen!  :'(
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on April 19, 2015, 13:17:50 PM
SWS Glider Painting Factory steps up a gear and completes the Nimbus 4D and Swift S-1.  Just need to apply decals now...

(http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee324/swarrans/P1010945_zpsr6wp64mz.jpg) (http://s532.photobucket.com/user/swarrans/media/P1010945_zpsr6wp64mz.jpg.html)

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on April 19, 2015, 13:24:50 PM
SWS Glider Painting Factory steps up a gear and completes the Nimbus 4D and Swift S-1.  Just need to apply decals now...


Most excellent!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on April 19, 2015, 14:32:53 PM
And we're done!

(http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee324/swarrans/P1010946_zpsywyqbsnd.jpg) (http://s532.photobucket.com/user/swarrans/media/P1010946_zpsywyqbsnd.jpg.html)

(http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee324/swarrans/P1010947_zpskp0tgpku.jpg) (http://s532.photobucket.com/user/swarrans/media/P1010947_zpskp0tgpku.jpg.html)

(http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee324/swarrans/P1010948_zpstgtkbgfr.jpg) (http://s532.photobucket.com/user/swarrans/media/P1010948_zpstgtkbgfr.jpg.html)

Many thanks to Mark for his graphics wizardy which made the Nimbus 4D silhouette script possible

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on April 19, 2015, 14:37:48 PM
Very nice!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on April 19, 2015, 18:16:46 PM
V nice Si...is the white cross on those Swiss flag the right dimensions though?!

;)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on April 19, 2015, 21:52:30 PM
V nice Si...is the white cross on those Swiss flag the right dimensions though?!

;)
Absolutely Mark - I downloaded the official dimensions - cross piece lengths 1 and 1/6th of width (I knew you would ask!)

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: peter_burgess on April 19, 2015, 22:32:53 PM
I could not believe it, this afternoon (Sunday)it was sunny and the wind was blowing straight onto Bopeep at 18-22 mph, I was the only one there  ::)  Billy no mates that's me  :'(
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on April 20, 2015, 08:08:33 AM
I would have liked to join you Pete, but I had work-shopy things to do.  I must admit that although the occasional solo flight can be nice I find that if I'm on my own flying for any length of time I can get a bit bored, so the social aspect must play quite a bit part of this obsession of ours.

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on April 20, 2015, 11:05:06 AM
Absolutely Mark - I downloaded the official dimensions - cross piece lengths 1 and 1/6th of width (I knew you would ask!)

Simon, how does the RAL white you used match with the Paritech white on the wings and tail?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on April 20, 2015, 18:31:30 PM
In theory the match should be good as I paint in RAL 9003 which is what Paritech use too - but I'm waiting for the paint to harden fully before doing a garden fly...

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on April 20, 2015, 19:10:59 PM
Si, your skills continue to amaze me, those are looking marvellous!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on April 21, 2015, 13:33:28 PM
You are too kind Gary - BTW I just weighed her and she is 13 Kg.   And Mark, as far as I can tell the paint match to Paritech's original is perfect.

Here's a few garden fly pictures:-

(http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee324/swarrans/Nimbus/P1010966_zpstehqdqta.jpg) (http://s532.photobucket.com/user/swarrans/media/Nimbus/P1010966_zpstehqdqta.jpg.html)

(http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee324/swarrans/Nimbus/P1010965_zpsjf1dvkzt.jpg) (http://s532.photobucket.com/user/swarrans/media/Nimbus/P1010965_zpsjf1dvkzt.jpg.html)

(http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee324/swarrans/Nimbus/P1010963_zpsbks9iocc.jpg) (http://s532.photobucket.com/user/swarrans/media/Nimbus/P1010963_zpsbks9iocc.jpg.html)



Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on April 22, 2015, 07:08:42 AM
I'm thinking I might toddle off to Bopeep today....

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on April 22, 2015, 09:07:36 AM
Looks like you'll have a good one, Si.

I can't make it today, but I'm off work tomorrow and Friday.

I'll be at Thurnham Friday by when it looks like the wind will have swung to south west.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on April 22, 2015, 09:33:18 AM
I'm thinking I might toddle off to Bopeep today....

Si

Have a good one Mr WS! Wish I could be there too  :'(
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on April 23, 2015, 17:59:23 PM
I'm thinking it might be rude not to have a bit of Nimbus action at Thurnham tomorrow afternoon.....

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on April 23, 2015, 19:25:59 PM
I'll be there after lunch, Si.
I am booked in for an Italian lunch at Stockbury at 12:30pm, so I should be on the slope by 2pm - (after I've had some Tirimisu!).  :) :) :)

Had a pleasant hour at Minster, (the location of my 'slope babies' sighting  ::)), this afternoon and then the wind backed due east just as a local paraglider attempted to launch. He gave up after an abortive attempt to get airborne and I had a pleasant 30 minutes chatting to him. I learnt that paraglider pilots with less than 10 hours airtime must fly with a conspicuous red ribbon,(a bit like L-plates) attached to their flying harness.

See you tomorrow
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on April 23, 2015, 19:39:13 PM
I'm hoping, weather allowing, to get to Thurnham on Saturday. Sunday looks a washout though :(
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on April 23, 2015, 21:24:28 PM
Ah the Nimbus might need to wait until Saturday then if I don't have my launcher..

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on April 24, 2015, 20:03:31 PM
Good session at Thurnham this afternoon with half a dozen or so of the regulars, plus Chris from Thanet, enjoying the excellent conditions.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on April 26, 2015, 11:36:28 AM
Another good/eventful day (ask Simon and EricP!) at Thurnham yesterday with most of the usual suspects being present, plus a gent from the Bickley Club whose name I didn't catch but who said when he visits next time will be bringing his 2.75m Blackhorse Blanik - should be nice.

Most people got plenty of airtime in the excellent conditions after a slightly damp start at 10am and hard to leave at 5:30pm, but I did have an indoor evening meeting to attend at Rochester.  :)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on April 28, 2015, 14:00:45 PM
Looking out of my window at work and there are the most fantastic thermal cumulus clouds out there. I hope somebody made use of them at a west facing slope somewhere...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on April 28, 2015, 19:35:56 PM
Yes Mark, someone I know did!  :D

Ian Nicholls who you sometimes see on this forum and who visited Thurnham last winter, sent me a text to say that he had a good long flight at Farthing Common today which he logged - maybe he'll post the results. He was going to visit Thurnham but the Common is only half the distance from his house so he made the right decision.

I was driving around the county today visiting various projects and I was also looking longingly at the North Downs slopes parallel to the M20 between Maidstone and Folkestone and at the beautiful cloud formations passing overhead.  :'(
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Nicholls on April 29, 2015, 09:37:13 AM
As Eric mentioned yesterday I took my 2M Mefisto to Farthing Common to fly there for the first time. The wind was on the slope but had dropped a lot by the time I had done a recce from the car park to the slope and back and the model was rigged. I couldn’t seem to get away from the slope without losing lift until the wind strengthened I went out and hit some real lift that must have had some thermal activity. I brought in down as I was losing sight of the model. Surprisingly from the logger it showed only a 200m altitude (only launch height for ELG/F5J which I do) albeit far from the slope (I was a dumbo and had used the RC Basic instead of the Multi 2 so the GPS, that would have told me how far, didn’t work). As Billy No Mates I enjoyed the flight until the wind got very strong and gusty. After a while it was really being tossed around so I “practiced” landings (about a dozen!) before getting it down safely despite the tailplane nylon bolt popping its clogs.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on April 30, 2015, 08:40:55 AM
Thanks for the report Ian - nice one.

Today's looking good for a bit of sloping activity at Thurnham - anyone else going there this morning?
The weekend's not looking good, so I'll take the opportunity this morning to get some airtime in.  :)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on April 30, 2015, 09:21:50 AM
I think I probably need a fix Eric - see you there...

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on April 30, 2015, 09:29:43 AM
I'll most probably arrive there between 10:30 and 11am.  :)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on April 30, 2015, 11:54:49 AM
Drat…work again :(

I'm going to head to either Bo Peep or HMS Mercury tomorrow, depending on conditions….any takers?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: jonniebgood on April 30, 2015, 15:06:16 PM
Eric,,

Was if free female or free bird that you offered me today??. :D. I remember Simon saying i should go to Chatham High Street. :o
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Bad Raven on May 01, 2015, 09:09:21 AM
In case you do not see this in the general Slope Soaring section................info from my Sussex RC Club.

"This morning, Thursday 30th April, there was a collision between a light aircraft landing at Shoreham Airport and a model aircraft being flown from Mill Hill. Fortunately there was minimal damage to the full size and the incident is now being investigated by the CAA and the Air Accident investigation Branch. The local police have posted a notice at Mill Hill prohibiting model flying and anyone intending or found flying there will have their equipment confiscated."


 As you should be aware Mill Hill is a public site, do not use this site until further notice.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on May 01, 2015, 09:26:50 AM
Hmmm...looks a bit dubious to me. The notice looks far from being official:

http://slopesoaringsussex.blogspot.co.uk/ (http://slopesoaringsussex.blogspot.co.uk/)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on May 01, 2015, 10:59:37 AM
Eric,
Was it a free female or free bird that you offered me today??. :D. I remember Simon saying i should go to Chatham High Street. :o

John, she is a Fly Fly 'Freebird' with two aileron servos and one elevator servo installed but you will need to add a battery and receiver. I also have a computer file of the instruction sheet.

Here she is in all her glory.

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She is a compact little bird, with lots of tricks in her repertoire although her backside doesn't wiggle (ie. no rudder), and when you have finished playing with her she needs to be laid back down gently into the grass.

If you are interested in taking her on board and you are passing my house exercising your canine friends, just knock on the door for a viewing, making sure that you keep your little nipper at bay.  ;)

If you don't have her then I'll be putting her on ebay.

Cheers, Eric

http://www.flyflyhobby.com/products_detail/&productId=32.html (http://www.flyflyhobby.com/products_detail/&productId=32.html)

http://www.gliders.uk.com/FlyFly-Freebird-145M-Glider/productinfo/FF-B003/ (http://www.gliders.uk.com/FlyFly-Freebird-145M-Glider/productinfo/FF-B003/)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: jonniebgood on May 02, 2015, 07:28:24 AM
Ohh, Arrh Captain, I'll have her alright and make sure she'll be gently laid upon the grass  :D.
 Collect on Tuesday and walk home with her over my shoulder, Ohh Arrh, Ohh Arrgh.  ;)

Many Thanks.

 John
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on May 03, 2015, 10:32:12 AM
Have you seen that Mill Hill is currently closed?

Apparently a light aircraft coming in to land at Shoreham airport interacted in some way with a model glider. Allegedly the incident happened at 1000 ft. Would anyone have been stupid enough to fly a model that high at Mill Hill? And how many models are actually capable of that?

From what I've seen at Mill Hill, some of the light aircraft appear to pass over the hill lower than allowed (although maybe they just look closer than they really are), and some of the model flyers appear to go higher than allowed (although often models are actually lower than viewers on the ground would estimate they are).

I guess if both parties do it wrong at the same time an interaction may just about be possible, but hopefully it was a near miss rather than a strike. It will be interesting to see what the investigation report says.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on May 03, 2015, 17:49:41 PM
The blogspot that Mark pointed at, is the best source of info - as Rob S actually went to the site (a day after the event), and Paul H posted what Rob saw.

There are also accounts there by pilots, so rather than saying here, what I think they are saying, and adding some chinese whispers, it is probably best for all interested to just visit 

http://slopesoaringsussex.blogspot.co.uk/ (http://slopesoaringsussex.blogspot.co.uk/)

and keep updated there.

Jef
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on May 03, 2015, 20:53:58 PM
Visited Thurnham this afternoon for an hour or so after the rain had cleared through.  :)

Charlie, Ray and David A were there enjoying the strong blow in the sunny conditions. I flew my hack £50 Cularis which flies amazingly well in the 25-30 mph wind - I wasn't going to chance my ASH26 as we are going to the aerotow meeting at Middle Wallop next weekend and I want to fly it there..

David flew his Merlin mouldie ballasted which coped well with the gusts but unfortunately he had an unexplained radio failure and the model was damaged but I'm sure he will be able to get it flying again - what a shame!  :'(
Commiserations to David.

Better conditions are forecast for tomorrow!  :xx
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on May 04, 2015, 07:32:44 AM
Looks good-ish for Thurnham today so I'll dig out the Fox and be there early

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on May 04, 2015, 08:34:07 AM
11ish for me...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on May 04, 2015, 08:46:04 AM
11ish for me...
Hangover?

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on May 04, 2015, 09:23:49 AM
10:30 for me.

Are you coming along as well, Ian?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Nicholls on May 04, 2015, 10:17:46 AM
Eric, This Ian can't I'm sorry to say.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on May 04, 2015, 20:00:25 PM
Good session at Thurnham today with most of the usual crowd present at various times plus some new faces I hadn't seen before. The day started well with a steady blow and sunshine, but the wind gradually dropped off with some bum-clenching moments being 'enjoyed' by most, including yours truly.

Jim got the prize for the furthest outlanding of the day with his massive T21 being caught out on a landing overshoot just as a gigantic area of sink came through.

Welcome to newbie Marcus who had an excellent first day ever of slope soaring with his Dreamflight 'Libelle' - very well done that man who is, would you believe, a Mode 3 flier - wow!.

Duke provided us with the day's entertainment with his unscheduled arrivals and launches with reversed controls! Despite his efforts to ground himself, quick sticky tape repairs to his vintage monster glider ensured that he had a successful flight to end the day as the wind dropped to nearly nothing.

Duke and Simon getting ready to go!
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Simon is on the move!
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Note:  the model is turning right and Duke has full left stick applied - three seconds later it met with terra firma!. Ouch!!
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Ooops, reversed controls - we've all done it at least once.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Bad Raven on May 04, 2015, 20:51:14 PM
Have you seen that Mill Hill is currently closed?

yes, four posts up on yours.   $%&

If anyone with a model was up 1000 feet over Mill Hill they deserve all they get!  The hill high point is behind and north of the slope at little at 104 metres or rounded down 340 feet.  If a full size was at 1000' ASL that close in it would not be landing, it'd be nearly up with the Sleazyjets cruising the coast waiting their slot to land at Gatwick. IMO therefore the height being bandied around is rubbish!!

You may not be aware that only a few years back there was a recorded near miss stated as at Coombes (the other side of the valley and west a little). A model plane was supposed to have spiralled/spun down PAST a full size from above it, narrowly missing it. It was later discovered that the full size plane pilot making the report was actually flying over ESSEX!!!


However, having personally experienced total idiots flying hotliners high (for their) and fast, and even 3D helicopters flown there (I have tackled several such idiots), you do wonder.



Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on May 04, 2015, 21:03:57 PM
Good session at Thurnham today ....
...successful flight to end the day as the wind dropped to nearly nothing.


Here in Essex, the forecast was for a moderate southerly to be blowing all afternoon, so (after fitting new tyres to my bicycle in preparation for a charity ride next weekend) I parked as close as I could and headed off for Hadleigh Castle with the good old Calypso Contest slung over my shoulder.

My wife, sister and Mother in Law were already at the castle (as were many other people) enjoying the fresh air, and to see my model fly / crash / whatever.

Breeze at the slope was plenty for the unballasted model to start with, and a good supply of thermic activity soon brought about my limited repertoire of rolls and loops. The wind died away after an hour in the air, to the point that I either landed at the launch point, or, I gradually lost height and crashed at the bottom of the slope. Discretion got a grip of me, as there were plenty of people at the site enjoying the unusually sunny Bank Holiday, and a soft landing in the reasonably long grass within a few feet of where I was standing, without the height to go an inch further and without me having had to use the brakes, brought a very pleasant end to the flight.

For the next ten minutes I sat and watched the day go by, and the conditions didn't look like they would pick up, so after exchanging pleasantries with passers by, genuinely interested in the model, I packed up and went round to my parents for a cuppa and a debrief.  :study:

I will be very happy if all Bank Holidays are as good as this one was!

Jef
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on May 04, 2015, 21:15:40 PM
Have you seen that Mill Hill is currently closed?

Cut and paste from the Sussex blogspot....

Dear all South East Area member/Club,

I have been in contact with head office and they have spoken to the BMFA
member involved. The inquiry will take place, which may take some
months, so until the out come is known we see there is no reason why we
can not continue to fly at Mill Hill.

Regards
Stuart Willis
BMFA South East Area Chairman
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Bad Raven on May 06, 2015, 07:14:49 AM
Cut and paste from the Sussex blogspot....

Dear all South East Area member/Club,

I have been in contact with head office and they have spoken to the BMFA
member involved. The inquiry will take place, which may take some
months, so until the out come is known we see there is no reason why we
can not continue to fly at Mill Hill.

Regards
Stuart Willis
BMFA South East Area Chairman


Wonderful, except the notice to me from SRFC (the most local BMFA affiliated club AFAIK), as I posted above and not yet recinded, said......................  "The local police have posted a notice at Mill Hill prohibiting model flying and anyone intending or found flying there will have their equipment confiscated. "

Now I have not been able to get there, and don't fancy driving 50 plus miles to find out if this has been removed or any indication that Shoreham ATC (in line of sight) accept the above and will not contact the police on seeing model flying taking place, but it seems to me that there's a disconnect here!!!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Allen the soarer on May 07, 2015, 09:02:46 AM
As I now work in littlehampton  ::)
I drive past mill hill every day I will pop up there one evening and let you know what it says, even a photo if your lucky  :af
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Allen the soarer on May 07, 2015, 18:32:19 PM
Ok just been up mill hill, no signs nothing. and while there looking for sign a plane cut it's circuit short and flew low over my head lol
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: RGN on May 07, 2015, 18:54:38 PM
Ok just been up mill hill, no signs nothing. and while there looking for sign a plane cut it's circuit short and flew low over my head lol
This may explain why no signs up http://www.shorehamherald.co.uk/news/local/update-mid-air-collision-investigation-findings-1-6728399 (http://www.shorehamherald.co.uk/news/local/update-mid-air-collision-investigation-findings-1-6728399)

Richard
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on May 07, 2015, 20:32:56 PM
Thanks for the update Allen! Littlehampton, huh? Quite a trek for you every day!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Bad Raven on May 08, 2015, 08:25:56 AM
This may explain why no signs up [url]http://www.shorehamherald.co.uk/news/local/update-mid-air-collision-investigation-findings-1-6728399[/url] ([url]http://www.shorehamherald.co.uk/news/local/update-mid-air-collision-investigation-findings-1-6728399[/url])

Richard


Thanks for the heads up.  I have contacted them, as that link shows a model type specifically NOT allowed at Mill Hill, good to know the local information source is so well informed......................  :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on May 08, 2015, 10:18:25 AM
As I now work in littlehampton  ::)
I drive past mill hill every day I will pop up there one evening and let you know what it says, even a photo if your lucky  :af

Maybe consider an easier commute via speedboat Allen?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Allen the soarer on May 08, 2015, 17:02:18 PM
 ::)
My motorbike gets through all the traffic, only take me an hour on the bike
But should I chose to take the car, it take me past EVERY slope in the south worth flying  :nananana:
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Bad Raven on May 08, 2015, 18:23:40 PM
GUYS!

I have had a potentially favourable response from the press with regard the "wrong plane" pictures.  They would like to publish some pics of flyers at Mill Hill using the right sort of equipment.

I only have video.

The thought strikes that Gary will have some (as per his slope website, etc) and several took pics on the day we had a couple of years back  (Paul with his "Red Arrows" etc might be a bit too far off norm though!).

Can anyone able to offer pictures please send link to me via PM?

TIA

Dave
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Allen the soarer on May 08, 2015, 19:12:23 PM
Hows this
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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on May 09, 2015, 08:30:18 AM
Worth looking at the BARCs  forum and Andy's post as he was actually there at the time.  He says it was a Wild thing flying at low altitude and the light aircraft was very low and cutting the corner.
If pictures are supplied to the media I would think a picture of the Wildthing would be best as it is both true and the least threatening form of glider possible.

Enough of that, I'm going to go and fly my big heavy fast Fox!

Simon
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on May 09, 2015, 10:55:47 AM
Hmm wind dead westerly now and rain in the air - perhaps I'll stay indoors.....

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on May 09, 2015, 11:47:01 AM
I'm just doing some gardening tasks for the head gardener to gain some brownie points.  ;D

Windspeed looks like it will peak at 2pm with rain before and after, so if I do visit Thurnham it will be later on.

In the meantime I'm getting ready for our aerotow day at Middle Wallop tomorrow, and it looks like the organisers have laid on good weather conditions laid on for us.  :)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on May 09, 2015, 19:41:30 PM
Mark, Eric P and I did go in the end and although the wind was dead on West most of the time with consequently a narrow band of lift we all had a good fly - even the Big Fox made an outing!

See you tomorrow at 8:00am Eric...

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on May 09, 2015, 20:31:31 PM
I had a run of "issues" today.
My first flight was without elevator servo, managed to land without damage. My second I lost an aileron servo, again down in one piece. My third and I had a stuck flap servo on full down on landing. Again I got away with it!
At least my run of three incidents is out the way now, didn't expect them all in one day.
Nice weather in the end though...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on May 09, 2015, 21:05:51 PM
Mark, Eric P and I did go in the end and although the wind was dead on West most of the time with consequently a narrow band of lift we all had a good fly - even the Big Fox made an outing!
See you tomorrow at 8:00am Eric...
Si
Pleased you all had a good session - I've got plenty of brownie points now.
I'll be there, Si!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: David Seton on May 10, 2015, 00:37:08 AM
Yippee 😃 the wind looks great for Sunday. I will be there with the ASW 17 and KA8. .- I've got no management to get in the way this weekend!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on May 10, 2015, 23:27:00 PM
A Grand Day Out! - Now with added photos!! and Video

An excellent aerotow session at Middle Wallop today, despite the conditions not being as good as forecast with little thermal activity. However most fliers were getting between ten and fifteen minute flights from the tows to between 1000 and 1500 feet depending upon cloud cover. On the way down from one of the maximum altitude launches, my model disappeared into low cloud for a period of a few seconds which seemed like an eternity until it safely reappeared out of the bottom of the cloud - phew!

The service from the tug pilots was excellent with the wait for a tow being very short despite the large attendance. The queue moved very quickly thanks to the two and sometimes three tug pilots who were on duty continually all day - many thanks guys.

Simon had a couple of flights with his big 7+ metre Paritech Nimbus, however as there was a risk of catching a wingtip on the not too short grass on take off, he sensibly decided to limit his day's flying activity. I used Antionia's dolly (??) to good effect and achieved a number of clean launches to maximum altitude.  ???

Mark had some good and some not so good flights with one flight being 40 minutes long although he did have the benefit of having a vario installed in the model. Simon also had a vario installed in the Nimbus but was too embarrassed to leave it turned on as it kept sending low 'going-down' notes loud enough for everyone to hear. I had to do with Mark One eyeballs to try and spot any incoming thermals but the few that were available were passing through at a rate of knots. A greater amount of hot air was being generated by the pilots around the model pound, queue and launching zone as everyone was taking the chance to catch up with old and new acquaintences after the winter lay off.

All models were scale and ranged from 2.5 metre 1/5th scale to amazing 10 metre 1/2 scale sailplanes and it was great to record that there was not one single crash throughout the session.

We had a chance to have a natter to some of the well known names on the scale gliding circuit and also inspect their models at close hand and exchange stories and information about the gliding scene. Also present on site was Terry White, the organiser of last year's Purbeck Convention together with his wife Lindy who fed and watered us with bacon and sausage rolls followed by an excellent cup of tea served up in their recently acquired motorhome.

Overall it was an cracking day even though we did far more socialising and chewing the fat than flying . . . and the motorways were clear on the way back home!

Many thanks to the Ghost Squadron Team for organising the event.  :af


General view of the layout at Middle Wallop
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The queue for a tow with the launch area on the left and landing area on the right with my ASH26 bringing up the rear.
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Simon's Nimbus 4DM behind my little 4 metre ASH26
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Mark and Simon surveying the scene
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A tranny and model to drool over
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and another . .
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To give you a feel for the day, here's the link to a video shot by Chris Williams at Middle Wallop in 2008
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhOQtN5xGDM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhOQtN5xGDM)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on May 11, 2015, 06:48:56 AM
Yippee 😃 the wind looks great for Sunday. I will be there with the ASW 17 and KA8. .- I've got no management to get in the way this weekend!
What happened David?...

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on May 11, 2015, 10:11:01 AM
As they say on QI, "Nobody Knows"
I expect he will bring us up to date soon.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Heath on May 11, 2015, 11:17:13 AM
Hi All... Anyone at Thurnham today... Thinking of popping up there. I`m a Thurnham virgin...... ;)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on May 11, 2015, 21:22:40 PM
Hi All... Anyone at Thurnham today... Thinking of popping up there. I`m a Thurnham virgin...... ;)
Hope you had some company today - sorry I couldn't make it!

Simon
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on May 12, 2015, 11:27:15 AM
Chaps…it could be a Firle day on Friday. I'm good to go, any other takers?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on May 12, 2015, 14:53:27 PM
Much as I'd love to Mark, I think I'll have to give it a miss as I'm in the middle of redecorating the kitchen and I don't think it would go down too well, especially as I'll be out all day on Saturday - have a good one!  :af

I've worked hard in the kitchen this morning and half the afternoon, so I'm going to pop up to the slope and have an hour or so for a treat  :)  and then do a bit more in the kitchen this evening.

Edit @ 19:15hrs:
Excellent conditions at Thurnham this afternoon with streets of thermally clouds coming through in a spectacular sky with only one other flier on site. First flight ended with the nose just short of a pile of dog ess aitch one tee. Didn't have my phone with me so couldn't take a photo, otherwise I would have sent it to Paul to add to his collection of weird and wonderful snaps.  ;)
Second flight was epic as well, but thankfully the landing was uneventful.

I'm now back in the kitchen with a beer  :) and the fine surface filler.  :'(
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: peter_burgess on May 12, 2015, 15:05:46 PM
Friday,  Firle? Could well be there.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on May 12, 2015, 17:03:42 PM
I'll be there Mark.  I have mixed in the flaps with the ailerons on the Nimbus so hopefully she'll be a bit more agile now!

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on May 15, 2015, 20:06:29 PM
Forecast didn't go to plan, light winds that veered off slope quickly but we all had a decent fly.
However we were joined by glider royalty in the form of the Paritech boys straight off the ferry, and they stopped off for a fly en-route to Blackbush airshow. Lots of nice kit but they did have to use whirry things in the inclement lift, something the homeboys didn't have the luxury of!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on May 16, 2015, 19:00:02 PM
Yes, I saw that the wind was going to veer to the NW, but at least you got some airtime in.

I'm just back from Blackbushe where the Paritech guys put on their usual excellent demonstrations. It's a shame however that it's not possible to see their models up close, especially their cracking new turbine powered aircraft, as they keep them out at the edge of the flight line all the time.

Met up with Phil, Andy, Terry, Geoff Pearce (+ wives) and also Bob Ryan and picked up a few bits and pieces that I hadn't realised that I needed.  ::)

No flying for me tomorrow :'(  as from 7:00am  ??? I am at an event that my wife has organised, plus splashing the last bit of paint on the kitchen walls in the afternoon.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Heath on May 17, 2015, 09:52:15 AM
Anyone out playing today.. 

Is Thurnham flyable in a westerly.  Seems its Sussex this morning for a NW and Thurnham from 1pm for a Westerly changing to a SW later.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on May 17, 2015, 10:21:04 AM
Yep, Turnham should be good today. It works best in SW to W wind (which is the predominant wind direction in England, which is why Turnham is so often flyable). Anything slightly north of W becomes difficult, but I don't think you'll get that today.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Heath on May 17, 2015, 10:42:00 AM
I will pop up sometime this afternoon then.. Cheers
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on May 17, 2015, 20:59:05 PM
Was there a gathering at Thurnham today?

Im my area the wind seemed slightly north of West, which is not what was forecast. But hopefully it was better at Thurnham.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on May 17, 2015, 21:13:19 PM
I had a very quick half hour this evening up at Thurnham, plenty of lift in the fair WSW breeze. Ray was visiting the land of nod in the layby so it wasn't quite a 'Billy-no-mates' session.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on May 18, 2015, 05:46:00 AM
I must have just missed you Paul as I got there about 4pm had a quick flight with the Nimbus (not easy to get it away in the light conditions but Charlie made it on the second attempt).  Then had a long chat with Ray and left about 5:15

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on May 18, 2015, 06:36:02 AM
I rocked up at about 7.30 so Ray must have had a good kip! Any improvement with the Nimbus' roll rate?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on May 18, 2015, 17:16:39 PM
No improvement on the roll rate but it wasn't an exhaustive test as I was struggling to gain height!  I've increased the throws a bit and will wait for a better day...

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on May 18, 2015, 19:03:27 PM
No improvement on the roll rate but it wasn't an exhaustive test as I was struggling to gain height!  I've increased the throws a bit and will wait for a better day...

It's not an aerobat!!😱
More importantly did you get the CofG sussed? Slow slow slow, not hoon hoon hoon!!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on May 20, 2015, 11:02:53 AM
I see that June 21st falls on a Sunday this year chaps. How about we make some tentative plans for a celebratory 'Summer Solstice Soaring Session' as the day draws closer?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on May 21, 2015, 18:34:19 PM
Great idea ...  but darn, can't make it, some poxy relatives' anniversary celebration or something ... grrr

Have a good one, whoever makes it!

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on May 22, 2015, 14:14:58 PM
Slip away quietly half way through the afternoon Gary, they'll never notice!

Alternatively there is the argument that the actual longest day can fall a few days either side of the 21st because of the Earth's wobble. We could therefore legitimately do the Saturday, or maybe better still (always keen to avoid the public) the Monday.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on May 22, 2015, 14:38:29 PM
Just back from a billy-no-mates session at Thurnham, whilst I was waiting for the last coat of emulsion to dry.

A warm Force 3 with only a solitary paraglider to keep me company.
We took it in turns so each of us had the sky to ourselves.
Conditions were great with big lift  :) being followed by big sink.  :o

If anyone is thinking of going there this afternoon, you should be OK until about 5pm when the westerly wind is forecast to get a bit of north in it, and as we know that's when the lift gives up at Thurnham.  :'(


Paul, Next year we can legitimately hold the Summer Solstice Slope Soaring Session on the 20th, but if we want to hold it on the 22nd, we'll have to wait until 2203.  ???
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Bob Ryan on May 22, 2015, 15:33:30 PM
We are off to the Isle of White this afternoon for a week. There are 10 of us so we don't expect to be "Billy no mates".
I have 5 gliders in the car and expect to get plenty of flying in.
Can anyone recomend the best slopes?
Bob Ryan
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on May 22, 2015, 19:51:40 PM
Gary's (GP) Slopehunter site is a good starting point and once you find some more you'll be able to supply him with details of more sites on the island. http://www.slopehunter.co.uk/ (http://www.slopehunter.co.uk/)
(In the photo on the home page of the slopehunter site which was taken at Beachy Head, that's me on the left flying my Phase 6 and I'm standing alongside 'swarrans' whose model is out of picture.
The lovely aerobatic glider on the ground is Slopehunter's 'PrismaRay', a very rare beast.)

I've only flown on the island once at that was at various locations along Culver Down Road, south of Bembridge, depending on wind direction. I just happened on those sites which are either over grassland or cliffs on the way to the pub which is nearly at the end of the road.

Have a good time.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: JohnP on May 22, 2015, 21:03:43 PM
Just wondering if it was anybody on here that I briefly spotted this evening as they drove through Croydon at about 5:45 with what appeared to be the tail fin of a scale glider poking up from the passenger seat of a white Ford Focus.  Of course it's entirely possible it wasn't a glider fin and I may need a trip to Specsavers...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on May 22, 2015, 21:21:05 PM
That has to be Mark!

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on May 22, 2015, 23:40:51 PM
Yes. That was me,
Bo Peep tomorrow, Thurnham Sunday and Firle on Monday.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on May 23, 2015, 06:37:41 AM
Dog sitting this weekend unfortunately but I will slip out for a couple of hours to Thurnham on Sunday if it looks good and hope to join you at Firle on Monday
Determined to make that Nimbus an acrobat!

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: JohnP on May 23, 2015, 10:04:52 AM
Yes. That was me,

Hi Mark - I'll wave next time!

So if you see some madman who looks like he's dashing for a train waving at you, you'll know it's only me!  ;D
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on May 24, 2015, 19:27:35 PM
Interesting session at Thurnham today.

Mark and I arrived just after 10:00am and were greeted with excellent conditions and surprisingly no one else was there. Later on a few guys who we hadn't seen before arrived and they only stayed for short periods. Mark prodded Simon with a text message and he arrived later with the Swift, Scorpion and big Nimbus.  :af

The conditions were interesting with masses of lift and sink alternating and you had to be careful not to get caught out, which I did when I couldn't get close enough into the fence line to hang about waiting for the next thermal to come through. Three or four paragliders getting ready to launch prevented me from getting close in and I consequently landed out resulting in a 'stagger of shame', back up the hill. (I was pleased that I had remembered to take my heart medication before leaving home).  :''

Mark encouraged Si to launch his big Nimbus which resulted in a flight which he didn't enjoy as he encountered the same sort of problems that I had had, although he did eventually gain enough height to land at the top of the slope - phew!!

Si and Mark left mid afternoon and I stayed on to keep Ray company and had another four flights in very buoyant conditions with no sink around.  :af

In all a very satisfying days soaring.  :)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Heath on May 25, 2015, 07:54:53 AM
I'm up for trying Firle today.  Haven't been there before.  What time are you thinking of going?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on May 25, 2015, 08:24:41 AM
We'll be there about 10:00am Municope but be warned - today is unlikely to be an epic Firle day as the wind forecasts are low and sometimes that means there won't be any at all!  However, as everyone tells me, I am the most pessimistic person in the World, so it might be great anyway.

I will be going as will Mark and there will be others.
When you park up you need to walk west from the car park up the track and follow where you see gliders in the air.  Some people fly the other side (ie walking east) but Mark and I will be going west

Cheers

Simon
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Heath on May 25, 2015, 08:33:27 AM
Ok...  I would think i will be there around 12 ish..  Poor Wildthing...   Another nosebleed session for it..  See you later.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on May 25, 2015, 17:44:21 PM
Rather a stressful session at Firle today...

Poor Manicope came all the way there and then never got to fly because the conditions later on were so patchy.

Mark and I both had problems with our big scale jobs due to the lift coming and then REALLY going.  I made a mad dash back and damaged a winglet and thought I had broken 3 servos on one wing as none of ailerons or outer flap on that side were working.  When I was flying it I thought it was occasionally acting strangely and now I know why......
I had just CA'd the wing root connectors back in as they had come adrift - note to self NEVER use CA for this type of thing because the CA had got into the connectors and completely locked them up and stopped them making a proper connection - I wondered why the wing took a good clonk to out on!  Anyway I had a very lucky escape with minor damage where it could have been a total loss.

Mark also suffered a bit of damage in his landing out but the most important bit (the wings) are absolutely fine.

Phew, it's stressful this flying lark!

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Heath on May 25, 2015, 17:50:51 PM
I stayed another hour after you two left.  The wind changed to S and got pretty chilly... I left with the Watford lads...

The pessimistic won this one Simon ;D

Heath


Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on May 25, 2015, 18:04:34 PM
Stessfull but fun...most of the time!
Here is a pic of mine and Simon's gliders before the action started.
Early on there was enough slope lift to counteract the sink coming through after a thermal but later on the windspeed dropped and it was only really either booming lift or booming sink.

I hit seven something meters (those in the know will understand...I'm not incriminating myself here) but flying back upwind I lost loads of height and for some reason the sink just sat there...I reckon something to do with the sea breeze that later came in. Anyway, came into land and spied some picnickers heading towards my intended, LZ so overshot into horrendous air, not one positive beep on the vario and as there was no sun it was really difficult to judge height. Anyway I landed out with some damage, as Si mentioned...bit of a repair job now.

Note to anyone wanting to offer advice whilst a pilot is concentrating flying in a sticky situation...don't, unless they see birds circling!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on May 25, 2015, 18:23:53 PM
Oh dear chaps! Glad I couldn't make it after all, hope your nerves are intact. At least I now know the South Downs curse isn't all down to me!!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Heath on May 25, 2015, 18:35:35 PM

Note to anyone wanting to offer advice whilst a pilot is concentrating flying in a sticky situation...don't, unless they see birds circling!

I did notice that  :-\
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: JohnP on May 25, 2015, 18:56:21 PM

Here is a pic of mine and Simon's gliders before the action started.


Ah, now I recognise the tail of the glider in the foreground.  Last seen in your car heading north through Croydon on Friday evening!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on May 25, 2015, 20:14:12 PM
Oh dear chaps! Glad I couldn't make it after all, hope your nerves are intact. At least I now know the South Downs curse isn't all down to me!!
Oh dear from me as well!!
I couldn't make it to the South Downs either as I was trying to gain some brownie points by toiling in the garden all day, but that didn't work and for some reason I'm now in the doghouse with minus points.  :'( However, the garden looks immaculate!  :)

Two stressful days in a row eh Simon, I think you had better go back to foamies for a while to calm you down!  ;)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on May 25, 2015, 22:42:19 PM
Sorry to hear of some damage. But probably not a bad result compared to what could have happened. (I would be quite capable of a total loss in those conditions!)

Weird how the South Downs have been less reliable lately, in contrast to previous years where it seemed like total mega-lift every time.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on May 25, 2015, 22:45:08 PM
There was mega lift Gary, it's just the mega sink behind it that was the problem!!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Heath on May 27, 2015, 11:24:03 AM
Looks like we have a westerley moving to SW late afternoon at Thurnham.  I may pop up around 13:30 once my jobs are done..
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on May 27, 2015, 11:29:46 AM
Yes, it looks potentially lovely - I'll see you there!

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Heath on May 28, 2015, 10:58:13 AM
Had a bit of fun up at Thurnham yesterday afternoon.  I probably missed the best lift as had to leave fairly early but did leave with a ONE piece foamie...RESULT :af

I`m off to the New Forest over the weekend and according to the Model Airfields app on Android there is a slope/cliff(Hordie Cliff) http://www.ma-db.com/place/12228 (http://www.ma-db.com/place/12228) near Milford on sea which is not far from where were staying.

Its a SW and Saturday SW is forecast so going to try my luck..   

Have a good weekend.

Good luck on Monday Simon...

Heath
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on May 28, 2015, 22:45:03 PM
Yes, Hordle Cliff is also shown on the Slopehunter map here:

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=zS73-qU38qfw.kLyw3DYaZ4u8&ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&ll=51.144894,-0.318604&spn=0.859804,2.460938&z=9 (https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=zS73-qU38qfw.kLyw3DYaZ4u8&ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&ll=51.144894,-0.318604&spn=0.859804,2.460938&z=9)

I haven't flown there myself, but it looks good.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on May 29, 2015, 14:51:44 PM
Epic lift at Thurnham this morning, Simon and I were there by 9.30 and gave my Swift and Si's big Nimbus a good shakedown. Rain stopped play by 11 but I was getting cold by then anyway!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Bob Ryan on May 29, 2015, 21:39:52 PM
Yes, epic lift at Thurnham for just one flight today, Then it rained. The best conditions at Thurnham ever. (For me) Truly great lift.  I just wish i was there earlier. My Mini Vector was in it's element. So was I, but it was cold.
Isle of Man was very disappointing for lift but the company was good.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on May 30, 2015, 09:14:37 AM
Yes, epic lift at Thurnham for just one flight today, Then it rained. The best conditions at Thurnham ever. (For me) Truly great lift.  I just wish i was there earlier. My Mini Vector was in it's element. So was I, but it was cold.
Isle of Man was very disappointing for lift but the company was good.
I thought you were going to the Isle of Wight Bob,
I must have misread your posting and gave you info for the wrong island - oops!.

Epic lift at Thurnham this morning, Simon and I were there by 9.30 and gave my Swift and Si's big Nimbus a good shakedown. Rain stopped play by 11 but I was getting cold by then anyway!
Did it roll any quicker?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on May 30, 2015, 11:10:18 AM
I think I have to finally accept that the Nimbus does not like rolling Eric.... >:(
I did one roll and it was better than before but the way the wings bend at the outer joiner just doesn't look comfortable so I will have to either keep her for aerotow only or find a new owner.

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Heath on May 30, 2015, 17:20:05 PM
 I had 2 hours soaring off of Hordle cliff, Milford on Sea in 25mph wind straight up the cliff.. Fantastic and hair raising..  First time on a cliff with the wildthing just thought sh*t or bust.. Tide was in when I arrived and just below the cliff were beach huts but the lift was superb..  At last I was brave enough to get some speed from the Wildthing and walked away with it firstly not wet and secondly in one piece... Result again...

Heath
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Heath on June 01, 2015, 09:00:14 AM
I have a tent to dry out in the garden this morning and some bits and pieces to sort then hopefully up the slope this afternoon if weather permits....
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Heath on June 01, 2015, 16:19:39 PM
Been up at thurnham for an hour so far. Absolutely hammered it down and know shows signs of staying dry for a while
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on June 01, 2015, 17:05:50 PM
I bet it's windy!

Simon
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Heath on June 01, 2015, 18:17:15 PM
Yes.. Very.. Lots of lift but gusty. Wildthing was getting blown all over the place even after adding some weight but good fun..
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: jonniebgood on June 01, 2015, 21:29:36 PM
Yes.. Very.. Lots of lift but gusty. Wildthing was getting blown all over the place even after adding some weight but good fun..

Hi Heath, you should have been there 9.30 when the lift was better than Otis, the sun was out, warm Not a spot of rain till 1.30 When a few of us called it a day,  :'' There a  guy there name of Marcus who maidend a Polystyrene model that weighed less than a dozen feathers and in next to no time with the help of a little weight flew very well in the wind.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Allen the soarer on June 02, 2015, 10:54:57 AM
Flat Field ESSA Event at Crowlink this Sunday (near beachyhead ish)
Will be hand tow lines, bungies, electric winch supplied by ESSA and electric assist gliders are allowed
not suitable for LARGE scale models but 3-4 meter mouldies will be pinging off the winch
national trust carpark though so pay and display  :af
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Im going to fit a hook to the Alpina this week  ;)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on June 03, 2015, 07:29:35 AM
Can't make it unfortunately, but have a great one Allen and whoever else goes. Highly recommended for any of the Kent Massive that fancies some flat field action!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on June 03, 2015, 09:28:17 AM
I can't make it either Allen as I have a bike event thing to go to (plus I don't have anything suitable to fly) but hope you have a great day

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on June 03, 2015, 10:06:30 AM
I'd like to see the 40% ASG29 on a hand tow….
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on June 03, 2015, 10:59:02 AM
I'd like to see the 40% ASG29 on a hand tow….
That would be some hand-job.....

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on June 03, 2015, 11:04:58 AM
That would be some hand-job.....

Si

....with a rather premature release I would guess. You'd certainly need a lot of blow to stand any chance of getting it up.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Allen the soarer on June 04, 2015, 12:51:06 PM
I got the man in our machine shop to knock me up a tow hook for the alpina
Ali plate with Stainless Steel threaded detachable hook, just had to share it  :af
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Heath on June 04, 2015, 16:00:36 PM
Finally got time to finish Le fish  :D 

I have the full stab elevator type(think thats correct)  managed to sort the throttle on my DX6i (self centring)for spoileron and flaperon(up or down) with elevator mix and assigned dual rates(all surfaces) 0 for my flying ability with +30 expo and dual rates 1 with full -expo for full control.. BUT... WILL IT FLY!!  :-\


Heath



Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on June 04, 2015, 16:50:39 PM
Fancy giving it a go tomorrow or saturday Heath?

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Heath on June 04, 2015, 16:55:15 PM
Hi Si,  I`m about tomorrow.  Do you fancy the maiden?  Not parsing the buck at all ;D   :D

I was just contemplating whether to cut some of the excess gorilla glue from the tail plane but on second thoughts I may leave it as I may need extra strength for my accidental  kamikaze type aerobatics  :af
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Heath on June 04, 2015, 21:17:21 PM
That would be some hand-job.....

Si

I have large hands and would find it satisfying to hold something of size and to be able to lob it of.. BUT I cant make it  ;) ;)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on June 04, 2015, 21:50:46 PM
Hi Si,  I`m about tomorrow.  Do you fancy the maiden?  Not parsing the buck at all ;D   :D

I was just contemplating whether to cut some of the excess gorilla glue from the tail plane but on second thoughts I may leave it as I may need extra strength for my accidental  kamikaze type aerobatics  :af
I'm happy to give it a go if the weather looks good tomorrow Heath

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Heath on June 05, 2015, 19:53:46 PM
I'm happy to give it a go if the weather looks good tomorrow Heath

Si

Hopefully better luck next time lol....
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on June 07, 2015, 07:00:04 AM
Top session at Thurnham yesterday.
XC predicted W whereas BBC and yr.no said WSW and thankfully XC was wrong!
So a decent blow straight onto the slope with the usual thermal/sink coming through thick and fast then at 3pm just lift everywhere.
Heath got his Fish flying nicely, Simon was moving his Nimbus around the sky and it looks more scale like...I won't mention the rolls though! My ASG has had it's tail stuck back on and it flew straight without any trim, phew. Time to spray today....
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on June 11, 2015, 16:16:38 PM
Not sure if this is old news or not....

http://www.myhobbystore.co.uk/giantshark.htm (http://www.myhobbystore.co.uk/giantshark.htm)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: JohnP on June 11, 2015, 20:31:39 PM
Yes, very old news Paul. 

But from the ashes of the Shark, phoenix-like, has emerged www.rclife.co.uk (http://www.rclife.co.uk), It's run by a former GiantCod and GiantShark employee, and whilst it has a much smaller range (at the moment) the prices are good and service very good. 

I ordered a couple of FrSky X8R receivers a couple of weeks ago on a Friday evening.  I got an email on Saturday mid-morning to say they'd been despatched and they arrived on Monday.  They were £20 each (less a penny!) and postage was about £1.50.  Others who ordered at the same time paid under a quid for 2nd-class postage on their orders and still got them on Monday.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: peter_burgess on June 11, 2015, 20:58:06 PM
Well, that's been 3 days of ballistic flying on Bopeep with wind speeds of between 30 & 45mph and as a bonus, today it was WARM :)
Where has everyone else been? I wasn't "Billy no mates" but not far off it! You gents all missed out.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Rob Thomson on June 11, 2015, 22:00:49 PM
I was at mecury down.

SUPERB!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Heath on June 11, 2015, 22:26:48 PM
 Kent cliffs the last 3 days... Didn't miss out.....AWSOME ;-)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on June 11, 2015, 22:31:11 PM
Work :-(
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Heath on June 11, 2015, 22:34:02 PM
Work :-(
Back to work next week.  :-( 
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Rob Thomson on June 12, 2015, 07:51:06 AM
Been having some FPV fun at mecury with my FPV soarer.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=L1t7iyOvTzs

Whole flight took place without a motor.

The footage is clear due to the good weather,  so loads of other models can be spotted during the flight.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on June 12, 2015, 16:14:30 PM
Work :-(
Hee, hee on holiday - sitting in Tivoli Gardens in Copenhagen at present but will be home later this evening and then sloping tomorrow.  :)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on June 13, 2015, 08:40:50 AM
Hoping to give the big ASG29 an outing later on today...

Welcome home Eric!

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on June 13, 2015, 10:20:23 AM
Thanks Si, but I'm not actually home yet - I'm sitting in Copenhagen Airport waiting for our flight and we should be home this afternoon. Hopefully James will be indoors tidying up the house as he's been using it while we've been away.

I'm hoping to get a fly later this evening :) as I see the weather is looking a bit pants for tomorrow. :'(

Have a good session with the '29.  :D

Cheers for now.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Heath on June 13, 2015, 19:08:52 PM
On Thursday a successful cartwheel landing of my Le Fish at Warden point,  resulted in a 3/4 tear from leading to trailing edge,  stripped rudder servo, broken elevator and a 3" tear down the front of the fuselage and 3 broken linkages.

I have added 2 more CF spars to the wing(needed stiffening)  taped and solarfilmed the whole wing,  added a metal geared digital servo and repaired everything else. 

Will it still fly :-\.....Oh yes,  it does and in the hands of Simon very well...  Thanks Simon...

Its definitely a good improvement adding the two extra spars(cheers Graham) the wings used to clap when pulling up from a dive but not anymore....

Cheers all for advice and testing(Simon put a cross over the crash landing,  you have proven yourself) ;)

Heath
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on June 13, 2015, 21:42:22 PM

Have a good session with the '29.  :D

I whimped out in the end Eric and didn't fly the asg but I am determined to give it some more slope action before too long....
Fun day anyway and the weather got distinctly better and warmer towards the end of the day..

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on June 14, 2015, 10:34:50 AM
At last we are back home. :)
Spotted bodies on the slope as we went past at about 5pm on the M20, (Detling Hill was closed) but I was too wacked to visit.
Three weeks worth of grass growing now to be tackled.
Back to work tomorrow, but I'll get a session on the Island in the evening.
Cheers for now.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on June 16, 2015, 19:37:53 PM
Didn't get my session on Sheppey.

However, Thurnham's looking good for tomorrow morning and afternoon until 4pm when it turns northerly, so I'll dust off the ASH26 and put a few milliamps into the batteries this evening.

Anyone else going to be joining me? - I'll be there at about 11am.  :)

Update:
Excellent all day session at Thurnham today. Arrived at 11am to find Alan T (good to see him back on the slope), Tony and a couple of guys from Concord, with Blade1 arriving with shortly after. There was also a Phantom flier at the back of the field but he disappeared after 1/2 an hour or so.

Conditions were great with a mainly WSW 10 - 15 mph blow all day giving plenty of lift.

There was a steady flow of fliers coming and going throughout the day including Charlie, David, Dave, Kirk, Duke, Ray (not flying!) and others. I had plenty of flights with my '26 and finally left at 6pm with Dave and Kirk still flying and Ray contributing with his usual sparkling commentary. ;)  Duke had one good flight and one crash - oh dear, 'back to the bench' as Bruce Simpson says!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on June 17, 2015, 21:22:47 PM
Had to work all day, but good to hear that the lift didn't go to waste!

I saw a row of figures as I passed by on the M20 at about 5.30.It looked as if you were flanked by a herd of cows, either that or someone had turned up with a hang glider made from black bin liners.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on June 17, 2015, 23:23:17 PM
Yes, there was a herd of inquisitive youngsters that sneaked up on us a few times without us noticing!

Must remember to leave my trainers outside tonight before I get around to giving them a scrub tomorrow.  >:(

Only one paraglider today - he was a learner who got blown back, landed behind us and then gave up.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on June 18, 2015, 21:07:52 PM
Glad Alan T is back flying again, since his 'procedures'. He was missed at the Kent InterClub Gliding flat field competition at Leigh Park Farm at the weekend.

Jef
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on June 19, 2015, 17:11:06 PM
Yes it was good to see Alan again.  :)  He is only able to launch light models at present and he warned me that he couldn't launch my 4 metre jobbie and so I did one of my usual one-wing-low self-launches. ;D

I had a similar 'procedure' about 10 years ago and it took about 6 months before I was anywhere near back to normal fitness - it certainly takes it out of you when they seriously have fun with a saw to chop your sternum in two!!  :o
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on June 19, 2015, 20:53:15 PM
Well, this weekend is the summer solstice but I can't see much flying happening, the forecast isn't too exciting. Maybe we delay it a week and try and do something on Sunday 28 June?

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on June 19, 2015, 21:17:33 PM
Thurnham in light conditions tomorrow afternoon Gary, then I'm going to Itford for Sunday...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on June 19, 2015, 22:22:35 PM
Well, this weekend is the summer solstice but I can't see much flying happening, the forecast isn't too exciting. Maybe we delay it a week and try and do something on Sunday 28 June?

How about we do both?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on June 22, 2015, 08:10:44 AM
Slope Report

Well, we've done the first of the two sessions proposed by Paul.

Simon, Paul, Mark and I drove down to Itford Hill in Sussex and met up with Phil Hoegger from Glidermania.co.uk and after recovering from the climb up, we had an excellent day's flying. Also it was good to see another refugee there from the Thurnham slope who hails from Streatham - sorry but I've forgotten your name.

We went to Itford as Thurnham's forecast wind had a bit of north in it which means the lift is then virtually non-existent. Flying alongside the South Downs Way meant that with a constant stream of walkers and mountain bikers we had to be careful when landing on the nice runway that the 'Way' proved to be for us. I had to abort my first landing when a biker appeared from nowhere and had to deposit my model into the adjacent gorse bushes, luckily without a scratch. The wind blew up to nearly 30 mph towards the end of the day and it got a bit chilly, so we retired to the pub for a pint of Harvey's Best - Ah, nectar, thanks Si!

As for my usual aim to fly at sunset on the longest day of the year, did I achieve it, does Dolly Parton sleep on her back? The answer of course is yes.

After we had unloaded all the gear and bodies from the Glidermobile at Si's house, on the way home I drove up to the Thurnham slope to see if the wind had, as forecast, backed from WNW to WSW and indeed it had! So out with the ASH26 again and I had half an hour of billy-no-mates flying in excellently smooth 10-12mph conditions with plenty of lift. A cracking end to a full day's flying in good company.

Let's see what next weekend brings!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on June 23, 2015, 09:43:57 AM
Hoping for some Thurnham fun this Wednesday if the forecast holds and Sunday for our planned "Equinox Plus One" BBQ

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Heath on June 23, 2015, 09:46:33 AM
I may be able to make tomorrow..
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on June 23, 2015, 19:13:41 PM
Hoping for some Thurnham fun this Wednesday if the forecast holds and Sunday for our planned "Equinox Plus One" BBQ
Si
Unfortunately I have to work tomorrow, so enjoy the slope, although it does seem quite small after our Itford Hill experience on Sunday.
However I still think 'our' slope is great, especially the landing zone.  :)

Sorry to be a pedant Si, but I think you meant "Solstice Plus One". - I have senior moments as well.  :'(   ;)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on June 24, 2015, 15:59:17 PM
Has anyone ever seen one of these Phantom FPV models being flown from Thurnham? 

Apparently there was an incident with one of these and a full-size plane near Detling Aerodrome. The Phantom is a power model, so probably not being flown from a slope. Nevertheless any info appreciated - probably best to do it via PM.

(This looks like quite a normal model plane but it is actually a first-person view model with onboard video etc, quite a specialist device.)

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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Bad Raven on June 24, 2015, 20:10:46 PM

(This looks like quite a normal model plane but it is actually a first-person view model with onboard video etc, quite a specialist device.)

It looks normal because it is, the airframe is less than £55 and it can be got operational with FPV for considerably less than a set of decent wing servos, so its not by any means specialist!!  (It can also be flown as a powered or unpowered wing without FPV)

Begs the question, how do they know so specifically the model?  (I have the contact mail from the UKAB investigator, just like you)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on June 24, 2015, 20:34:39 PM
From the weather archives it was a ENE blow that day...Thurnham isn't an ideal spot in that direction!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Bad Raven on June 24, 2015, 20:38:55 PM
From the weather archives it was a ENE blow that day...Thurnham isn't an ideal spot in that direction!


 ;D ;D ;D

HOWEVER, having checked myself, here's a record for Maidstone that day:-

 Hourly Weather History & Observations
Time (BST)    Temp.    Dew Point    Humidity    Pressure    Visibility    Wind Dir    Wind Speed    Gust Speed    Precip    Events    Conditions
8:20 AM    17.0 °C    14.0 °C    82%    1025 hPa    10.0 km    SW    22.2 km/h / 6.2 m/s    -    N/A         Partly Cloudy
8:50 AM    17.0 °C    13.0 °C    77%    1025 hPa    10.0 km    SW    27.8 km/h / 7.7 m/s    -    N/A         Partly Cloudy
9:20 AM    17.0 °C    13.0 °C    77%    1024 hPa    -    SW    31.5 km/h / 8.7 m/s    -    N/A         Clear
9:50 AM    17.0 °C    13.0 °C    77%    1024 hPa    -    SW    25.9 km/h / 7.2 m/s    -    N/A         Clear
10:20 AM    17.0 °C    13.0 °C    77%    1024 hPa    10.0 km    SW    31.5 km/h / 8.7 m/s    -    N/A         Partly Cloudy
10:50 AM    18.0 °C    14.0 °C    77%    1024 hPa    10.0 km    SW    31.5 km/h / 8.7 m/s    -    N/A         Partly Cloudy
11:20 AM    18.0 °C    14.0 °C    77%    1024 hPa    10.0 km    SW    38.9 km/h / 10.8 m/s    -    N/A         Partly Cloudy
11:50 AM    18.0 °C    14.0 °C    77%    1024 hPa    10.0 km    SW    31.5 km/h / 8.7 m/s    -    N/A         Partly Cloudy
12:20 PM    19.0 °C    15.0 °C    78%    1024 hPa    10.0 km    SW    35.2 km/h / 9.8 m/s    -    N/A         Partly Cloudy
12:50 PM    19.0 °C    15.0 °C    78%    1024 hPa    10.0 km    SW    37.0 km/h / 10.3 m/s    -    N/A         Partly Cloudy
1:20 PM    19.0 °C    15.0 °C    78%    1023 hPa    10.0 km    SW    38.9 km/h / 10.8 m/s    -    N/A         Partly Cloudy
1:50 PM    19.0 °C    15.0 °C    78%    1023 hPa    10.0 km    SW    38.9 km/h / 10.8 m/s    -    N/A         Partly Cloudy
2:20 PM    19.0 °C    15.0 °C    78%    1023 hPa    10.0 km    SW    35.2 km/h / 9.8 m/s    -    N/A         Partly Cloudy
2:50 PM    19.0 °C    15.0 °C    78%    1023 hPa    10.0 km    SW    35.2 km/h / 9.8 m/s    -    N/A         Partly Cloudy
3:20 PM    19.0 °C    15.0 °C    78%    1023 hPa    10.0 km    SW    37.0 km/h / 10.3 m/s    -    N/A         Partly Cloudy
3:50 PM    19.0 °C    15.0 °C    78%    1022 hPa    10.0 km    SW    37.0 km/h / 10.3 m/s    -    N/A         Partly Cloudy
4:20 PM    19.0 °C    15.0 °C    78%    1022 hPa    10.0 km    SW    40.7 km/h / 11.3 m/s    -    N/A         Partly Cloudy
5:20 PM    19.0 °C    15.0 °C    78%    1021 hPa    10.0 km    SW    37.0 km/h / 10.3 m/s    -    N/A         Partly Cloudy
5:50 PM    19.0 °C    15.0 °C    78%    1021 hPa    10.0 km    WSW    33.3 km/h / 9.3 m/s    -    N/A         Partly Cloudy
6:20 PM    18.0 °C    15.0 °C    83%    1021 hPa    10.0 km    SW    35.2 km/h / 9.8 m/s    -    N/A         Partly Cloudy
6:50 PM    17.0 °C    15.0 °C    88%    1021 hPa    10.0 km    SW    29.6 km/h / 8.2 m/s    -    N/A    Fog    Partly Cloudy
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on June 24, 2015, 21:14:28 PM
It looks normal because it is, the airframe is less than £55 and it can be got operational with FPV for considerably less than a set of decent wing servos, so its not by any means specialist!!  (It can also be flown as a powered or unpowered wing without FPV)

Begs the question, how do they know so specifically the model?  (I have the contact mail from the UKAB investigator, just like you)

Do they specifically say it was a plane involved, or has a paraglider pilot pulled one out of his strings and formally reported the incident?

How were conditions today chaps? I tried my best not to gaze longingly up at the sky for most of the day...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Bad Raven on June 24, 2015, 21:51:06 PM
Cavalon Gyroplane
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on June 24, 2015, 22:26:07 PM
How were conditions today chaps? I tried my best not to gaze longingly up at the sky for most of the day...
Nice!  ;)

Quite a few people there today, many that we hadn't seen before and . . . . . Duke had two perfect flights and . . . . . I have convinced him to maiden his Slingsby Dart on Sunday!  :D
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Heath on June 25, 2015, 08:14:16 AM


How were conditions today chaps?
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Patchy at best.. OK for the larger spans.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on June 25, 2015, 09:53:04 AM
Whoops, I was looking at conditions for the 15th not the 17th…

Thurnham tomorrow anyone?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on June 25, 2015, 17:04:39 PM
Thurnham tomorrow anyone?

If its not raining I'll be there

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on June 25, 2015, 18:29:08 PM
Thurnham tomorrow anyone?
I'll be there after lunch.  :)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on June 25, 2015, 19:22:29 PM
As the forecast looks quite good and Mark will be there to launch it I will bring the big ASG29 for it's annual outing!

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Heath on June 25, 2015, 20:06:10 PM
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Thurnham tomorrow anyone?
[/quote]

I`ll pop up...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on June 25, 2015, 20:20:42 PM
As the forecast looks quite good and Mark will be there to launch it I will bring the big ASG29 for it's annual outing!
Si
:D :D :D
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: David Seton on June 26, 2015, 09:24:50 AM
I have escaped from hospital and hope to be at Thurnham by 2pm. Still not fit for launching duty😒
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on June 27, 2015, 18:54:58 PM
Do we need a little coordination on our BBQ at Thurnham tomorrow?
I have got some rolls and sausages for a starter.
Anyone want to get a couple of disposable BBQ's?

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on June 27, 2015, 20:03:01 PM
I've bought one kingsize disposable bbq, a dozen rolls and a dozen hotdog-type sausages.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Heath on June 27, 2015, 20:47:23 PM
I have a portable BBQ and charcoal.. and my `special`  sausages ;)  What time?  Should have my rush job scratch built wisel ready for the maiden...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on June 27, 2015, 22:18:29 PM
I have loaded three various sized tables plus chipboard for a windbreak into the Glidermobile plus a one ring small portable gas ring and kettle if anyone fancies a cuppa - a cuppa always goes down nicely, even on a hot day. :) I'll bring some hamburgers and I'll get some rolls in the morning.

Paul, I have loaded the table that takes two Chartered Engineers to erect (with difficulty) - both Si and I will be there to attempt the task again ! ;)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on June 27, 2015, 22:27:09 PM
Heath might be raising the bar a bit as he was a Butcher in a previous life so  I demand one of his sausages ( I fear that not sound quite right)
Anyway, wot about the models?  I think I might fancy a stress free day and so just bring the small ASW and Swift rather than the Big Fox or Nimbus?......

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on June 27, 2015, 23:03:26 PM
I've got my Prismaray and Erwin packed.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Heath on June 28, 2015, 10:37:58 AM
What time?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on June 28, 2015, 22:42:45 PM
Good day today, good to catch up with the hard core of the crew.

Isn't it great when a plane lands badly yet survives remarkably well?


Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on June 28, 2015, 22:46:53 PM
Paul looked so happy being so near so many large bottoms

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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on June 28, 2015, 22:51:40 PM
There is another very specialist forum where Paul posts what he calls his connoisseur photos

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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on June 28, 2015, 22:55:01 PM
After viewing bovine beauties for a while Paul finds he can carry his plane without using his hands

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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on June 28, 2015, 22:58:15 PM
Sunbird escaping predator

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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on June 28, 2015, 23:04:43 PM
Simon is so skilled at launching that he uses only the tips of his index fingers

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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on June 28, 2015, 23:09:51 PM
Eric

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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on June 29, 2015, 17:48:59 PM
Good day today, good to catch up with the hard core of the crew.
Isn't it great when a plane lands badly yet survives remarkably well?
I think that I can quite justifiably blame that landing/arrival on the aircraft and not on me the pilot. :)

Duke and Paul had given up on it whilst it was in the air and it was down to me to try and get a large rudder elevator model that had a mind of its own down safely.  :o

It just goes to show how tough those 1970s models . . . . and pilots are!  ;) 

The experience I gained in all the competition flying that I did with large R/E thermal soarers finally was put to use and Duke was very pleased to be presented with his model in one piece! :af


Heath might be raising the bar a bit as he was a Butcher in a previous life so  I demand one of his sausages ( I fear that not sound quite right)
Si
Best sausages ever!  :) :) :)
Many thanks to Heath and Alex!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on June 29, 2015, 19:16:17 PM
I think that I can quite justifiably blame that landing/arrival on the aircraft and not on me the pilot. :)

The experience I gained in all the competition flying that I did with large R/E thermal soarers finally was put to use and Duke was very pleased to be presented with his model in one piece! :af


Wot a Pussy - it looked easy to fly!!

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Heath on June 29, 2015, 19:53:13 PM

Best sausages ever!  :) :) :)
Many thanks to Heath and Alex!

Our pleasure....

Those magnificent men and their flying machines!!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on June 29, 2015, 20:10:45 PM
I missed a good one. Next year...
On the plus side I am now a record breaker, or more accurately a participant in one. Non-glider related...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on June 29, 2015, 22:10:28 PM
I missed a good one. Next year...
On the plus side I am now a record breaker, or more accurately a participant in one. Non-glider related...
Tell me it's not "Frozen" related!.......

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on June 29, 2015, 22:12:06 PM
I missed a good one. Next year...
On the plus side I am now a record breaker, or more accurately a participant in one. Non-glider related...

You just couldn't let it go could you Mark!

Many thanks for the sausage and BBQ service from me too Heath. I had lunch at home thinking
I'd be too late for food on the hill....luckily I still had room.

On another note, can anyone recommend any decent hills along the M40 corridor please?

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on June 29, 2015, 22:13:42 PM
Tell me it's not "Frozen" related!.......

Si

He certainly couldn't hold it back anymore at Itford
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: sorry on June 30, 2015, 12:40:27 PM
On another note, can anyone recommend any decent hills along the M40 corridor please?

Burton Dassett for a SW. Between J12 &13.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Rob Thomson on June 30, 2015, 17:27:10 PM
Not too far off the M40 to Ivinghoe beacon.

But the M40 is quite long!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on June 30, 2015, 17:28:14 PM
Wot a Pussy - it looked easy to fly!!
Si
You ought to have had a go as well Si, you just love rudder/elevator models don't you!  ;)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on June 30, 2015, 20:27:02 PM
On another note, can anyone recommend any decent hills along the M40 corridor please?

Burton Dassett for a SW. Between J12 &13.

Thanks Sorry....any idea how vociferously (if at all) the 'SMSA members only' policy is enforced?

Not too far off the M40 to Ivinghoe beacon.

Thanks Rob, I was thinking that Ivinghoe may be my plan B.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: sorry on July 02, 2015, 12:22:47 PM
"Thanks Sorry....any idea how vociferously (if at all) the 'SMSA members only' policy is enforced?"

If you are lucky enough to catch any members there we are always very welcoming.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on July 02, 2015, 12:24:35 PM
To All Scale Glider fliers

This Sunday 5th July it is the North London MFC annual glider aerotow event, held at their field at Baldock in Hertfordshire.

If you'd like to try aerotowing, this is the perfect place to do it for the first time as they have a massive field which is close mown grass - a big lawn really!

You will be towed by very experienced Ghost Squadron tug pilots who will take your model up to 1500 feet above ground level - you can of course be released lower if you wish.

Here's the link to further information on the Scale Soaring UK website:
http://www.scalesoaring.co.uk/Calendar/Calendar.html (http://www.scalesoaring.co.uk/Calendar/Calendar.html)

Si and maybe David will be there, so if you do go there will be some familiar faces to assist you.
I wont be able to take part this year as I have a prior family event to attend - Pimms and canapes in the garden etc!

Ps - Ladies will be able to attend as well as they have proper toilets on site, not the usual 'behind the hedge' arrangements!

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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on July 03, 2015, 00:06:17 AM
Thanks for the reminder about this event Eric. Thoroughly enjoyed the day that I attended this Baldock event with my little 3.4m Minimoa (as per the excellent pictures). 

Alas, I am CDing a Multi Launch Glider event in Little Bentley (nr Colchester) so cannot make the aerotow meeting on Sunday.

Good luck to all that can get there - the weather looks ideal.

Jef
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: terry white on July 03, 2015, 01:47:49 AM
Hi Guys,
I did intend to make this aero tow meet but its the Longmynd scale get together the following week end, last week was the Cheddar bash which was a great do, and as you know you cant do them all. So I will see you  at M.W. if not before. :xx

P.S. I have the photo of the three ASW27s being held in the air on their wing tip as my desk top photo. :af   Regards to you all Terry.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on July 03, 2015, 06:58:58 AM


P.S. I have the photo of the three ASW27s being held in the air on their wing tip as my desk top photo. :af   Regards to you all Terry.

We very deliberately took the ASW picture as a tribute to you and your brilliant model Terry, so I'm really pleased it is on your PC.  Eric took a number on other shots with Paul's camera and some video of all three in the air so hopefully they will appear soon (Paul is very busy with a building project)

See you at MW - I can only go on Saturday as I'm going to a Red Bull soapbox thing on Sunday!

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Phil.Taylor on July 03, 2015, 18:09:19 PM
Hi guys

Anyone going to the mighty Thurnham tomorrow that might be able to give me a lift from Maidstone station? XCW showing about 15-20mph SW - and a sunny 25C

I need to have a maiden - she's shapely & blonde & would like to be taken for a tumble or two.

drop me a PM if you can help - thanks

Phil.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on July 03, 2015, 21:40:39 PM
I'm always "Swift" to respond Phil and might be able to help you!
However, tomorrow is a little complicated for me so if others can help don't let this stop them from responding...

Simon
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on July 04, 2015, 07:30:54 AM
Have a good time chaps, sorry I won't get to catch up with you Phil. I am otherwise engaged this weekend but will have some interesting stories to tell off the back of it...... Simon that soap box thing sounds really exciting.....I look forward to hearing all about it!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Phil.Taylor on July 04, 2015, 20:05:00 PM
Great afternoon at the mighty Thurnham - 20+mph wind & sunshine all the way - but slope soaring T-shirt weather? this cant be right.
Successful maiden flight for my Modellstudio Swift S1 - which was kept company by Simon's Graupner Swift. Other scale planes being flown too.
Huge "Thank You" to Simon for the lift from the station

Phil.

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on July 04, 2015, 21:50:00 PM
Aghhh...we could've made it a threesome if I weren't on childcare duties and my Swift is still on the repair bench!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on July 05, 2015, 21:22:18 PM
On the way back from the boozy weekend family do in Darkest North Essex, I called into Baldock to pay a surprise visit to Simon and his Big ASG, but Si wasn't there, even though everyone said "Yes, Simon's here"

Eventually it transpired that it was Simon Thornton who was there with his DG600 and his newly acquired top of the range Jeti which was having it's first outing. Simon let me hang it round my neck and it's gorgeous - it's definitely in the 'I want one of those' category.
http://www.jetimodel.com/en/katalog/Transmitters/@produkt/DS-16/ (http://www.jetimodel.com/en/katalog/Transmitters/@produkt/DS-16/)

I'll post some piccies of 'Baldock2Day' shortly - sorry BBC I've nicked your Wimbledon prog title - no pictures of Clare Balding thankfully!

General views of the line up. A very good attendance.
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Antonia fettling her immaculately prepared sailplane with partner Mel's Ka8 alongside
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This 8 metre ASW17 weighed in at over 20 kg and so had to be inspected and approved by the LMA's CAA Exemption Inspector John Greenfield before it could be towed aloft. Unfortunately for the builder there were some issues with the build which must be resolved before it will be allowed to fly. However it will be spectacular when it does eventually get airborne.
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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on July 05, 2015, 22:40:55 PM
Having of caught in a horrible traffic jam ( of my own making regrettably) on Saturday I decided not to go to Baldock I'm afraid Eric so hopefully see you soon..

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on July 06, 2015, 16:22:54 PM
Taaaadahhh!  :uk:

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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on July 06, 2015, 18:27:26 PM
End of an era Paul...
Hope to get up to Thurnham tomorrow, shower dodging, anyone else about?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on July 06, 2015, 18:55:31 PM
Perfect conditions at Colley Hill this afternoon.

Paul, I've heard the 2.4 circuitry can cause the valves to oscillate, which then causes the punch cards to flap against the cathode ray tube, which then displays an error message in Fortran ... be careful about that.

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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Weds on July 06, 2015, 19:30:35 PM
Taaaadahhh!  :uk:

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How is the balance of the Tx without the 35mhz aerial ?

And how are you going to fly without resting the aerial over your shoulder ?

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on July 06, 2015, 21:49:37 PM
Perfect conditions at Colley Hill this afternoon.

Paul, I've heard the 2.4 circuitry can cause the valves to oscillate, which then causes the punch cards to flap against the cathode ray tube, which then displays an error message in Fortran ... be careful about that.


Thanks for the heads up Gary but It's ok, I spent last night backing up my model memories on ticker tape just in case the worst should happen.

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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on July 06, 2015, 21:53:57 PM
How is the balance of the Tx without the 35mhz aerial ?

And how are you going to fly without resting the aerial over your shoulder ?

Balance seems fine, but I've made a weighted shoulder pad so I still feel like
there's something resting there.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on July 07, 2015, 21:23:36 PM
Apropos nothing, but an interesting read nonetheless- http://www.dg-flugzeugbau.de/kosten-e.html (http://www.dg-flugzeugbau.de/kosten-e.html)

Mark, did you have any luck today?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on July 07, 2015, 22:17:08 PM
That's an interesting read.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on July 07, 2015, 22:17:55 PM
By the way, Paul, what 2.4 system did you go for?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on July 08, 2015, 06:41:10 AM
By the way, Paul, what 2.4 system did you go for?
You know Paul Gary - much like the article about German glider production costs he posted, money is no object to Paul, so he bought the very best 2.4 system money can buy!

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on July 08, 2015, 07:30:21 AM
By the way, Paul, what 2.4 system did you go for?

FrSky DIY Telemetry module....I had my butler pick it up direct from the Hobby King
Singapore depot. He had to take my Lear Jet though as the Gulfstream G650
was in for a service.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on July 08, 2015, 07:39:54 AM
Ah, interesting.

On another subject, interesting report on "drone" near miss at Heathrow here:

http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/latest/photo-news/drone-users-warned-after-device-misses-plane-by-50ft-54942 (http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/latest/photo-news/drone-users-warned-after-device-misses-plane-by-50ft-54942)
 
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on July 08, 2015, 17:51:12 PM
FrSky DIY Telemetry module....I had my butler pick it up direct from the Hobby King
Singapore depot. He had to take my Lear Jet though as the Gulfstream G650
was in for a service.

Have been using these for a few years now.

Only problems I have had have been with receiver aerials breaking / coming off the receiver boards when pulled hard (I know, it is better not to do this), Tx aerials not making proper contact and connector pins requiring re-insertion.

Replacement aerials are cheap. Take care of them (best place for them is taped to a sheet of plastic to prevent damage inside a glass fibre and wood fuselage!).

Carbon is no friend of the system. Where there is lots of it, I have had to extend the aerials so that they are at least 100mm from the fus and wing to maintain full range.

Learn about range testing - and do it while the system is good to give yourself a bench mark. Don't range test near cars or other metal objects as they can give a false confidence in the system, by helping to reflect and make the signal stronger in range check mode. If you have a spare Tx aerial it is easy to swap while doing range tests to see if it makes a difference.

By the way, all 2.4GHz systems suffer the above weaknesses, and none of them work if the aerials are broken! So it doesn't really matter what the price tag was on purchase.

By the way, despite having thoroughly tested the system over a long period, I have never suffered any bad damage, when one of the rx aerials are damaged you tend to regain some control before the ground reaches out and grabs the model (as the other rx aerial gets a view of the tx at some stage during the descent.

Good luck!

Jef
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on July 08, 2015, 21:36:29 PM
Thanks for the pointers Jef. I'll keep an eye on those rx aerials.

I've mounted the tx aerial so that I don't have to remove it for storage, I didn't like the idea of repeatedly unscrewing / screwing it....call me paranoid. In range check mode I'm getting over 50 metres (at which point I run out of garden) so that translates to at least 1.5km at full strength.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on July 09, 2015, 06:57:30 AM
Just for the record, my "joking" about the cheapness of the Frsky system was just that, a joke - I am a huge fan of the system and have used it myself for many years.  I happen to use Futaba 2.4 these days but still use the Frsky FASST receivers by choice as IMHO they are at least as good as the Futaba offerings at 1/3 the price.

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on July 09, 2015, 19:09:54 PM
This afternoon I called in to Lydd Airport for a 'comfort break' as I have a project at Greatstone and I had just driven there from Rochester.

On arrival I noticed that there was a lot of media activity in one of the hangers and on the ramp by the terminal building. On chatting to a local aviation enthusiast, I found out that the first crossing of the English Channel by an electrically powered aircraft, the AirBus Innovations E-FAN, registration F-WATT, will take place tomorrow morning from Lydd to Calais.

There were three French helicopters there as well, one of which was equipped with external gimbal-mounted cameras and there were also four camera teams, so the event will be well documented. A press conference was also being held inside the terminal building.

If you would like to be present at the start of an historic flight, F-WATT is due to take off for its 45 minute flight to France at 9:15am. You will need to be at the airport early as the 'great and good' have been invited and there aren't that many parking spaces available.

However, you may like to take the easy option by watching the event live tomorrow morning on the video stream at the link below.

Enjoy,

Eric

Here is the link to the appropriate page on the Airbus Group website:
http://www.airbusgroup.com/int/en/innovation-environment/airbus-e-fan-the-future-of-electric-aircraft/Cross-channel-flight.html (http://www.airbusgroup.com/int/en/innovation-environment/airbus-e-fan-the-future-of-electric-aircraft/Cross-channel-flight.html)

http://wemakeitfly.airbusgroup.com/ (http://wemakeitfly.airbusgroup.com/)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on July 10, 2015, 09:41:52 AM
Oh dear, Airbus pipped at the post by an electric Cri-Cri!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/industry/engineering/11729838/Airbus-E-Fan-2.0-set-to-recreate-aviation-history-with-cross-Channel-flight-only-this-time-its-electric.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/industry/engineering/11729838/Airbus-E-Fan-2.0-set-to-recreate-aviation-history-with-cross-Channel-flight-only-this-time-its-electric.html)

Statement from Pipistrel
http://www.pipistrel.si/news/electric-crosschannel-flight-official-statementctric-crosschannel-flight-official-statement (http://www.pipistrel.si/news/electric-crosschannel-flight-official-statementctric-crosschannel-flight-official-statement)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on July 10, 2015, 23:24:46 PM
I sense a new building project coming on for Simon...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on July 11, 2015, 06:54:36 AM
I sense a new building project coming on for Simon...
I did think "well that's not too big" Gary!.....
Whether or not I'd actually go up in something I built is another question. :o

Off to the MW aerotow in a few minutes - sunscreen packed!

Mark and I had an interesting time at Wrotham yesterday - Mark had to land out his big Nimbus and had the longest retrieve yet (but no damage) I sort of landed out my Swift and opened up some of the old damage, so I need to decide if I am going to continue doing this or buy a new one...
I also had 3 very scary times with the ASW27 where it appeared to give unintentional instant full up elevator.  I can't find anything wrong with it but may change the receiver and servo just in case

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on July 11, 2015, 08:57:43 AM
I've been reading articles about illegal high power wi-fi repeaters, so maybe that could be a source of interference, Si.

I might be able to visit Thurnham this afternoon for a couple of hours  :) - gardening duties this morning.
Also late tomorrow afternoon looks doable. and should miss any showers that are around. :xx
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on July 11, 2015, 11:33:41 AM
I've been reading articles about illegal high power wi-fi repeaters, so maybe that could be a source of interference, Si.

I might be able to visit Thurnham this afternoon for a couple of hours  :) - gardening duties this morning.
Also late tomorrow afternoon looks doable. and should miss any showers that are around. :xx

Eric, beware- Kent County Show and Leeds Castle Concert today......luckily it looks as if Operation Stack is no longer in force, so the 'perfect storm' for a Kentish gridlock has been averted!

Have a good Middle Wallop session Simon!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on July 11, 2015, 21:48:12 PM
It wasn't the distance the Nimbus landed out at, it was the inaccessibility of it that caused the problem, no way to get over the fence which meant a long walk to a suitable gate then traipsing through oil seed rape. I needed a machete!

Good day at Middle Wallop, both Si and I came back with intact planes...I did lose mine at 700+m for about 20secs but after a desperate shout of help someone spotted it and all was well.

Pic of glass ships...mine and Si's included.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on July 12, 2015, 09:50:56 AM
Eric, beware- Kent County Show and Leeds Castle Concert today......luckily it looks as if Operation Stack is no longer in force, so the 'perfect storm' for a Kentish gridlock has been averted!
Have a good Middle Wallop session Simon!
Thanks Paul, but being a 'Man of Kent', I know virtually every country lane and back double in this neck of the woods that I can use to help keep me clear traffic jams.
Checking on Google Traffic before leaving home showed the A249 South to be clear as a bell and sure enough it was, however on the return journey I put my local knowledge to use and avoided the A249 North and the traffic emerging from the Showground.

I had an excellent couple of hours in a warm 10 - 12mph WSW with stacks of thermals and no sink.
Unfortunately, it was a billy-no-mates session and the only people around  for the whole time I was there, were two Polish cyclists!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on July 12, 2015, 18:58:55 PM
Does anyone know of a tree surgeon, climber locally to Thurnham? Ideally someone who get get out in the next couple of days!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on July 12, 2015, 19:12:58 PM
Can you see it...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: SpringHead on July 12, 2015, 21:02:34 PM
1 mental gale/hurricane didn't shift mine from that tree, it took 3 fishing rods loads of gaffer tape more wooden rods and loads of perseverance, good luck mate


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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on July 12, 2015, 21:06:21 PM
Which plane is that Mark? It looks too small to be one of yours, but it could be deceptive.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on July 12, 2015, 21:08:21 PM
Any chance of getting it down with the bow and arrow approach? Failing that I might be able to rock up there with a ladder at some point this week Mark.....the evenings are still long!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on July 12, 2015, 21:15:50 PM
It's my 2.5m Swift, which had just been repaired after its recent meeting with terra firma.

I want it down in one piece and repair it again, so not overly keen on knocking it down as its above the road, and it's quite high up so really need a tree surgeon/pro climber to rope it down. Does anyone know of anybody who could do this?
Title: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: SpringHead on July 12, 2015, 21:22:23 PM
You need about 6/7 meters of sticks  that don't flop around


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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: SpringHead on July 12, 2015, 21:25:18 PM
I remember going up there to get my half pipe after the big storms about 2 years ago, found trees down in fact everything down including fence posts with barbed wire but the plane didn't shift at all


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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on July 13, 2015, 06:20:09 AM
Regrettably I think most pro tree surgeons these days don't do much tree climbing and rely on safer methods like cherry pickers to do their work - but hopefully I'm wrong and someone will know someone who knows someone?  Does David S know the name of the guy who got his down?
As an off the wall thought would it be possible to shoot a line over the branch holding it and then connect that to a line saw and saw your way through it from below?

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Allen the soarer on July 13, 2015, 12:25:31 PM
As its a plane worth saving, would it not be worth buying/aquiring some ropes and small pullies and get yourself up the tree ??
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on July 13, 2015, 14:54:38 PM
If I were a more courageous man the I would...
Or if I were twenty years younger!

I'm meeting a chap there at 9am who's going to retrieve it...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on July 13, 2015, 18:49:28 PM
It's still there Mark! I have just stopped by on the way through. Good luck for tomorrow.....
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: favonius on July 14, 2015, 07:18:16 AM
I believe there may be a couple of Aresti 2M and Aresti 108 available. This is Jim Hammond's 2M version at Ivinghoe last week. I can pass your interest along to Greg Lewis who is handling UK supples.

https://vimeo.com/133383999

Graham Woods
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Heath on July 14, 2015, 07:24:51 AM
It's still there Mark! I have just stopped by on the way through. Good luck for tomorrow.....

I left Thornham 18:30 last night and was still in tree,  pilot doesn't look too happy...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on July 14, 2015, 22:03:40 PM
Mark's Swift down now - retrieved by Warren the climber - useful man to know for future reference!

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on July 14, 2015, 22:13:26 PM
Mark's Swift down now - retrieved by Warren the climber - useful man to know for future reference!

Si

That's good news! What are his rates like? Has the Swift sustained much damage?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on July 15, 2015, 06:03:21 AM
On a "rate per hour" basis it was very expensive as I guess it took him about 30 mins but getting a precious model back for £50 has got to be a good deal - and more to the point nobody ended up in hospital  :af. I don't think there was any chance at all of it coming down any other way so no choice really.

Mark reports the damage as not too bad - fuz OK quite a few chunks out of the wings leading edges but spar OK and all repairable.

I suspect it might take a back seat as Mark took delivery of his new third scale fully moulded ASW27 yesterday!

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on July 15, 2015, 08:16:08 AM

I suspect it might take a back seat as Mark took delivery of his new third scale fully moulded ASW27 yesterday!

Si

Excellent!! When's the maiden then?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on July 15, 2015, 09:30:15 AM
Weekend after next, depends on the flying conditions next week. Build starts properly on Sunday evening as I'm currently on full-time parenting duties, but all the bits and bobs  should be with me/made ready to go then.

Will be repairing the Swift at the same time, as Si mentioned the fuz is fine, just a bit of repair work to the wings...may not be cosmetically perfect for a while though!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on July 15, 2015, 19:21:51 PM
Wow! Third scale ASW27! Look forward to seeing that!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on July 15, 2015, 22:24:41 PM
Thurnham is looking good for Friday, Saturday and a bit lighter on Sunday. :)
My first expedition there will be Friday morning. :D

Lookie, lookie, lookie! - check out the latest posts on Paul's blog - cracking stuff.  :D
http://goodwindsoaring.blogspot.co.uk/ (http://goodwindsoaring.blogspot.co.uk/)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on July 17, 2015, 18:13:42 PM
Strong winds at Thurnham today
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on July 17, 2015, 18:16:29 PM
Windy enough for the big fox to get an airing
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on July 17, 2015, 18:19:24 PM
Always good to see the fox in action
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on July 17, 2015, 18:55:29 PM
Few more pics ...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: GP on July 17, 2015, 18:57:25 PM
Last few pics...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on July 17, 2015, 22:05:59 PM
Gary and Peter did a sterling job of launching Si's Big Fox today.
However, this is what we need to get our big Foxes airborne!  ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylCVMkw78Mg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylCVMkw78Mg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6fv-TNyrqs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6fv-TNyrqs)

or more realistically something like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MNQXvq8e6g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MNQXvq8e6g)

David and I will be working on designing a bungee launch system for our models so that we don't give our flying buddies a hernia each time they launch our hefty models for us.

The last few seconds of this video of Simon's and my big Foxes shows what happens when the pilot (me) gets it wrong despite the super-human efforts of launcher Paul!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2uEMNWFf8A&list=PLZQzgxGhkt9Hmsuw7EnRqfsk7wZr8JrPU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2uEMNWFf8A&list=PLZQzgxGhkt9Hmsuw7EnRqfsk7wZr8JrPU)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: JohnP on July 17, 2015, 23:03:03 PM
However, this is what we need to get our big Foxes airborne!  ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylCVMkw78Mg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylCVMkw78Mg)

Heck, that looks like a lot of effort for two very short flights!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on July 18, 2015, 06:33:22 AM
You're not kidding John - I reckon they were just there for the BBQ.

Come to think of it, that fullsize experience is not dissimilar to flying the really big models in hassle/flying time vs the smaller models! (having said that I think it's completely worth it!)

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on July 21, 2015, 19:55:55 PM
SLOPE REPORT

A good time was had by all at Thurnham today. A surprising number of people were there for a mid-week session.

Mark (sans beard) manfully heaved my 36 pound 4.8 metre Purbeck Sailplanes MDM-1 Fox into the air which was quite variable. I had the Fox airborne for about 10 minutes but there was alternating lift and sink and after one descent well below the horizon, I managed to coax it back up the slope and once I had sufficient height, I quickly landed the beast albeit with some minor damage.

Later in the afteroon Simon, Pete and Duke arrived, all of whom had successful flights. We left site at about 6:30pm, dinner and a glass of chilled wine beckoning.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Heath on July 21, 2015, 20:00:41 PM
SLOPE REPORT

 alternating lift and sink

That`s Thurnham :banghead: :banghead:
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: terry white on July 21, 2015, 23:13:20 PM
Hi Eric, and friends,

With these big models when the lift goes its clench buttocks time. :o

I remember flying Ricks/Simons Fox on a slope that bent around from off of the prevailing wind. I flew the Fox too far round and lost the lift completely, trying to head back to where the slope was working meant I had to fight the head wind which was slipping around the slope. The concern off coarse is that we may induce a stall if we try to lengthen the glide, or we may need to land out at the bottom of the slope, if you can see a landing spot that is. You probably have found by now that if your god takes all the lift away these machines have a very steep glide angle. >:(

(Incidentally this scenario has caught out and killed a number of full size Fox pilots in the Alps over the years)

I was lucky, I had prayed to the right god this time and I just made it back to the lift before the inevitable happened.

I hope the damage isn't too bad Eric, perhaps try another god next time.

I also hope to see you all at M.W. at the week end. :af

Kind regards to all my friends at the South East Flyers.   Terry.
 
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on July 22, 2015, 12:21:00 PM
Luckily the removal of the beard hasn't sapped my strength so the Fox launch was a doddle, there was a good blow at the time and that helped.

Unlike Eric's Fox, my Nimbus hit an epic thermal after launch and by the time I'd circled it towards the back of the slope I'd gained my quickest accent ever, the vario was at it's highest pitch throughout! After I'd landed to sort out a flap issue the conditions got a bit gusty for it and I was wishing I'd got my new ASW27 there as it would've been perfect for it...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on July 22, 2015, 20:26:46 PM
Hi Eric, and friends,
With these big models when the lift goes its clench buttocks time. :o
I hope the damage isn't too bad Eric, perhaps try another god next time.
Kind regards to all my friends at the South East Flyers.   Terry.
One days work will sort out the minor damage to the Fox' airframe, but I'll wait until there's a bit more of a blow before I get Mark to give it the heave-ho again.
I can't make it to MW this weekend but hope to see you and Lindy again before the summer is out.

Best wishes, Eric
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on July 26, 2015, 16:54:02 PM
After the sunburn from MIddle Wallop yesterday, today has been spent on my ASW build, but not repairing my Swift which is annoying as Thurnham looks like there will be a bit of a blow there tomorrow. Might get my ASG up though.
Any other takers?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on July 26, 2015, 17:37:29 PM
I'll come up with the Fox if you decide to go Mark.  Could you bring one of your ASW wings so I can have a look ?

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on July 26, 2015, 17:51:48 PM
Sure, I'll text you in the morning Si...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on July 26, 2015, 22:26:52 PM
Had three lovely flights at Hadleigh Castle this evening, between the showers that finished at 6pm and 9pm when the light was diminishing. The forecast SSW swinging towards SSE stayed SSW, but all of the ridge was working most of the time. The windspeed was nowhere near the 14mph forecast for 7pm, so the ballast had to come out, but the wind picked up again at 8pm.

Wished there had been others there to take photos, the ones I took were a bit hurried as the Calypso Contest isn't really a 'floater' even without the ballast in!

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: sorry on July 27, 2015, 19:54:22 PM
In Eastbourne for a few days from sunny Birmingham.
Had a good day today at the Long Man. Breezy ! Just me and some crows. Flew Dragon and Cobra.
Seen Itford mentioned for tomorrow. Will it be good there ?

ta

Robert
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on July 28, 2015, 16:38:36 PM
Off to Thurnham now should be there in an hour or so  :xx
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on July 28, 2015, 22:43:03 PM
Got lucky on the M20. Operation Stack was not quite back to the A249 turn-off :)

However, problems with a switch while charging, wrecked the switch and led to a burnt out NiMH battery and a burnt out receiver! I haven't worked out exactly what happened yet, but fortunately no other damage to the Calypso, nor the Toyota it was in!

Conditions were rough. Very turbulent, and plenty of worrying sink, although not bad enough for a land out. The paraglider that launched while I was flying, also experienced the poor air, but I think he had a 'walk' or two! Beautiful sunset though.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: paul w on July 29, 2015, 06:50:29 AM
Sounds as if you did well to fly at all with a burnt out rx and nimh pack Jef!  ;)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Phil.Taylor on July 30, 2015, 16:05:43 PM
Hi folks !

Anyone going to Thurnham or other slopes in the South East this weekend that could give me a lift from a nearby train station? Thurnham looks good for Saturday pm & the old Sagitta needs a re-maiden after a major refurb.

Phil.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on July 30, 2015, 18:08:43 PM
Sounds as if you did well to fly at all with a burnt out rx and nimh pack Jef!  ;)

Yes, Paul, I got lucky!

Happened to find another 4xAA battery pack in my spare parts stock, used for setting up new models. The receiver in my DLG (always in the car 'just in case') is of the same type as was in the Calypso Contest, despite only requiring three channels. It pays to standardise receivers across the fleet, and with FrSky equipment being so affordable, that is not an expensive option. 

Got to buy another battery pack now. Already have a spare rx - which will go in the SXPro DLG this evening.

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on July 31, 2015, 14:47:18 PM
Hi folks !

Anyone going to Thurnham or other slopes in the South East this weekend that could give me a lift from a nearby train station? Thurnham looks good for Saturday pm & the old Sagitta needs a re-maiden after a major refurb.

Phil.
Hi Phil,
I think I can do that again - assuming the wind looks in the right direction - I am thinking Saturday looks the best bet and would be planning to go 11ish

Simon
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Phil.Taylor on August 01, 2015, 19:30:55 PM
Great day at Thurnham today - very thermic - big lift & big sink
Mark's big Nimbus looked impressive - coming back up from waaaay down -  :uk:

Phil.

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on August 01, 2015, 19:46:29 PM
:)

What is the T-tail model next to the Sagitta in the pic?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Phil.Taylor on August 01, 2015, 20:15:29 PM
:)

What is the T-tail model next to the Sagitta in the pic?

Its a "Fletcher" - designed for F3B by Frits Donker Duyvis - way back in 1995 - and way ahead of its time - its a lovely old plane that can still go pretty damn quick.
I added the "Mondrian" colour scheme (its Dutch!) with Protrim (sticky Profilm)

Phil.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on August 02, 2015, 11:25:54 AM
Another good day at Thurnham yesterday, enjoyed by the few who were there. Good to see Phil again after 2 or 3 years.

A paraglider kindly returned 'jonniebegood's' foam wing which he had lost a few days earlier. I have sent a note to the secretary of the Dover and Folkestone Hang Gliding Club thanking them on John's behalf.

Ray found a small carbon front hatch cover along the path between the lane and the launch point. If whoever has lost lt lets me know the colour (that's easy!  ;D), its length and how many holes it has in it, then I'll get it back to them.

In two weeks time it's the Headcorn Model Airshow:
http://www.headcornevents.co.uk/event.php?eventid=14 (http://www.headcornevents.co.uk/event.php?eventid=14)

and if you are interested in full-size then I found this local event:
http://baypromoteam.co.uk/ (http://baypromoteam.co.uk/)

and on the same weekend it's Airbourne at Eastbourne:
http://www.eastbourneairshow.com/ (http://www.eastbourneairshow.com/)
If you don't want to brave the crowds and traffic, all three days flying is normally streamed over the internet. :af

It will be a busy weekend in the air!.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: JohnP on August 02, 2015, 13:48:59 PM
In two weeks time it's the Headcorn Model Airshow:
[url]http://www.headcornevents.co.uk/event.php?eventid=14[/url] ([url]http://www.headcornevents.co.uk/event.php?eventid=14[/url])


TWO weeks?  I think you'll find that's actually in SIX weeks time - it's the 12th/13th SEPTEMBER!  (You had me worried for a moment though  :co)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: EricF on August 02, 2015, 17:11:28 PM
Thanks for the correction, John.
It was actually advertised elsewhere as the 15-16th August and that actually stuck in my brain, so thanks for pointing out my error.

Cheers, Eric
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on August 03, 2015, 06:21:21 AM
Double dose of congratulations to Mark from Wrotham yesterday:-
1. Getting his big Nimbus up from VERY low (10 feet?) after a huge wave of sink followed by a massive thermal that he was able to pick up.
2. Maidened his third scale ASW27 successfully.

More fun today at Thurnham hopefully.....

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: jonniebgood on August 03, 2015, 19:36:51 PM
Thanks for the correction, John.
It was actually advertised elsewhere as the 15-16th August and that actually stuck in my brain, so thanks for pointing out my error.

Cheers, Eric

Never mind Eric, its called agism ;). The next step to look forward to is when you lose a plane and it's found by a paraglider.  :banghead: :banghead:

ps Thanks for writing to the chairman of the paragliders on my behalf.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on August 03, 2015, 21:32:07 PM
Good day at Thurnham today with a 20 - 25mph blow straight onto the slope.
Simon flew the big Fox, Charlie flew the little Fox and Bob flew Luke (his Baudis Skywalker). My 1/3rd ASW27 is nearly dialed in and I quite like it.
Found: Charging lead, croc clips to a single barrel type plug.
Also had some interest from these little scamps and accompanying ladies...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on August 03, 2015, 23:56:46 PM
There wasn't a Propeak charger attached to the leads was there? I seem to have mislaid one!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: swarrans on August 04, 2015, 06:50:40 AM
Good day at Thurnham today with a 20 - 25mph blow straight onto the slope.
Simon flew the big Fox, Charlie flew the little Fox and Bob flew Luke (his Baudis Skywalker). My 1/3rd ASW27 is nearly dialed in and I quite like it.
Found: Charging lead, croc clips to a single barrel type plug.
Also had some interest from these little scamps and accompanying ladies...
I thought you were going to Photoshop the scamps out Mark?!..

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: terry white on August 04, 2015, 09:28:41 AM
Hi Guys,
sorry I couldn't make it yesterday,I didn't get in to late and couldn't act on Simons request. >:( However I hope to fly with you all soon.
Well done Mark on your successful maiden with the 27. we are now all waiting for the follow up video, with writings on the pre launch nerves etc.   I love maidens don't you. :D 
Regards to all down your way   Terry
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Bad Raven on August 04, 2015, 13:32:08 PM
Good yesterday pm at Mill Hill, but excellent there this morning!!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: vinnie on August 05, 2015, 17:16:05 PM

I had toyed with the idea of a very early start and going down to Mill Hill before work, but that didn't happen.

So I slipped off early from work yesterday and tried Colley Hill in the S-W at the end of the afternoon, I believe it was around 15mph or so, according to the weather sites. It was actually surprisingly good down the left hand side, where there are no bushes on the lip.

Managed to finally maiden my Phase 6 that I bought off ebay last year, almost landed in one piece as well!  :embarassed: Just a sheared wing bolt and pulled servo wire. I've ordered  a large pack of replacements from Model Fixings  ;) :D

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: Heath on August 07, 2015, 18:37:02 PM
I'm on the Isle of white for the weekend. Any recommendations on a slope...

Heath
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: ofej on August 07, 2015, 23:45:15 PM
There wasn't a Propeak charger attached to the leads was there? I seem to have mislaid one!

Guess not then :(

Lost at Thurnham - Propeak Prodigy charger.


Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
Post by: mark_snipz on August 08, 2015, 07:56:46 AM
Nope....only some leads were found.
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