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Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
« Reply #280 on: May 16, 2014, 12:29:17 PM »
Why would somebody build a glider this large, you may as well use the real thing


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Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
« Reply #281 on: May 16, 2014, 12:38:32 PM »
WOWOWOWOW!!!!   :o
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Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
« Reply #282 on: May 16, 2014, 15:16:36 PM »
Ah, a Wien, it brings back fond memories ... what a phenomenal amount of work it must have been to build one that size.  What do you reckon, half scale maybe?
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Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
« Reply #283 on: May 16, 2014, 15:31:55 PM »
Why would somebody build a glider this large, you may as well use the real thing


So you've heard about my latest project then Martin?!.....

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Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
« Reply #284 on: May 16, 2014, 15:54:21 PM »
Your going to be a full sized glider pilot Simon...........?


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Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
« Reply #285 on: May 17, 2014, 17:52:40 PM »
Slope babe!

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Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
« Reply #286 on: May 17, 2014, 18:25:17 PM »
She is totally lovely, but I have to ask did you actually take the photo yourself Martin, it has a kind of vintage look about it?!

For others not used to the rules of this competition, entries are only valid if you rush up to some unknown and unsuspecting female and ask if you can take a photograph of her with your model!  (at least those are the rules I have just invented!).

I don't want to spoil Eric's thunder but he bought a rather fabulous glider at the Blackbush show today........

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Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
« Reply #287 on: May 17, 2014, 18:54:11 PM »
It's a very recent photo it's just been faffed about a bit, no I didn't take it so I suppose it does not count but a 'must share' anyway


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Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
« Reply #288 on: May 17, 2014, 19:49:37 PM »
It's a very recent photo it's just been faffed about a bit, no I didn't take it so I suppose it does not count but a 'must share' anyway
That's for sure - I'm in love!

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Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
« Reply #289 on: May 17, 2014, 20:00:10 PM »
Darn it, did I forget the Blackbushe show again?  I forgot last year as well.  Were there any good turbine glider displays this year?  I look forward to seeing Eric's model.
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Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
« Reply #290 on: May 17, 2014, 21:36:49 PM »
Regarding the model I bought today, let's say that I'll need to get a bigger Glidermobile!
I did say I was going to go bigger! Photos will follow tomorrow.

Yes, you missed a good show today Gary - Mark didn't though, he was there with his little 'un and a lovely little girl she is too. His brother-in-law who had never been to a model airshow before was also with him.

Flying was interesting to say the least - the first model up at 10am was a nearly new, very large scale aerobatic aircraft, an Extra of some description, which looked to be about 70% scale and which had taken 1800 hours to build. However, within 60 seconds of take off the wings folded completely when it was about 100 metres high and it had the style and trajectory of a lawn dart on its way to terra firma. I suspect that it had only been flown gently previously and once in the show ring the pilot appears to have been carried away with the occasion. Maybe it was a show pilot flying for the owner - if so, oops!

There were quite a few models biting the dust today more than I've ever seen before at a model show, helicopters with their Lipos catching fire in the middle of the runway, one of a pair of large 3D models crashing - think that there was just too much smoke for the pilot to see his model and most heart rending was the pair of Corsairs with their 5 cylinder radials colliding with each other during their duo routine. I didn't see the Corsair incident, but that's what I was told happened.

However, the Paritech guys from Germany gave their usual polished professional displays without incident. The electrically powered 1/2 scale Fox performed as impressively as usual staying very low for its entire aerobatic performance. They also had a glider with an electric turbine which performed most impressively. I'll post the photos this evening of their many models on the flight line. But the Paritech model which wowed the crowd the most was, to quote the commentator, "the absolute nutter version" of one of their F3F airframes. It was full carbon and initially tricked the crowd into thinking it was a docile model, but the pilot Christoph then turned on the power (pulling 120 amps) and I've never ever seen a model perform so radically fast before. I didn't have my video camera with me for that flight but I'm sure it will come up on YouTube shortly.

So after getting a few small purchases from the trade tents, I loaded my new acquisition into the Glidermobile and on the way home called in to Simon's house to get his verdict - I think he is more excited that I am!! . . . .  so I'm sure that's a big YES from him! :af
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Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
« Reply #291 on: May 17, 2014, 22:04:48 PM »
Thanks for the excellent update.  I see Glidermania and Paritech were there, and they both only sell big impressive gliders, so I'm waiting for the reveal with bated breath ...
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Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
« Reply #292 on: May 17, 2014, 22:14:02 PM »
Don't get too excited Gary, it's nothing you haven't seen before, it's just slightly different to the norm.

Paritech were there and Phil H was around organising them but he didn't have an official stand.
One of the reasons I went to the show was to see what he had on offer.
I was told that he had set himself up in the car park but I couldn't find where.
However by then I had found something else . . . . . . . . :'' . . . . . . .  on the South Coast Sailplanes stand.  ;)

PS - I won't be able to post photos until tomorrow evening as I had my arm twisted to be a marshall on a 10k road race for the local Rotary Club starting at 7:30am on site  :'(, then to the pub for a Sunday lunch, then to the village green of the next village for some sort of activity, so hopefully I'll be home before it gets dark to take the snaps. :xx

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Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
« Reply #293 on: May 17, 2014, 22:17:13 PM »
Were there any good turbine glider displays this year?

A full size turbine powered glider cruised over my house from Challock this afternoon, it's the second time I've seen (heard) it....will try and get video evidence next time.....
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Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
« Reply #294 on: May 17, 2014, 22:29:33 PM »
Any idea when the Kent Gliding Club's Open Day is Paul?
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Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
« Reply #295 on: May 17, 2014, 22:32:53 PM »
But the Paritech model which wowed the crowd the most was, to quote the commentator, "the absolute nutter version" of one of their F3F airframes. It was full carbon and initially tricked the crowd into thinking it was a docile model, but the pilot Christoph then turned on the power (pulling 120 amps) and I've never ever seen a model perform so radically fast before. I didn't have my video camera with me for that flight but I'm sure it will come up on YouTube shortly.

I had my video camera with me,  but to be honest I'm really not sure how much of that flight I actually managed to capture!  It was all a bit of a blur - rather like in previous years Ali's turbine-powered Opus.  :D Probably be a while before I get a chance to get anything onto youtube though.
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Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
« Reply #296 on: May 17, 2014, 23:10:43 PM »
Yes John, it was a bit quick wasn't it?
I videoed the whole of the Fox flight and even at that more sedate pace, it took some following with the camera.
At Mr Goodwind's suggestion, I fitted a sighting tube to my Sony Handycam and that helped considerably.
We'll have to hope for the best and see what emerges.
Same with me with getting videos sorted and posted - amazing how much time is involved - in this weather I'd rather be out flying!  :D
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Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
« Reply #297 on: May 17, 2014, 23:42:50 PM »
At Mr Goodwind's suggestion, I fitted a sighting tube to my Sony Handycam and that helped considerably.

For anything like this I guess I have a similar,  more 'informal' method,  that probably works much like a sighting tube.  I zoom right out (because anything else would be futile!) keep both eyes open and just move my head and camera to follow the view my left eye has of the model.  If my right eye occasionally also spots the model in the viewfinder then that's a bonus!
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Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
« Reply #298 on: May 18, 2014, 10:56:14 AM »
Any idea when the Kent Gliding Club's Open Day is Paul?

I'll see if I can find out, are we going to have a 'jolly' down there when it's on then?

In the mean time you need to post a 'teaser' of you latest acquisition Eric....we can play 'guess the glider'
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Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
« Reply #299 on: May 18, 2014, 11:29:48 AM »
Just as a reminder of where bare faced cheek can get you...

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I have her as my PC lock screen and she makes me smile every time she pops up!


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Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
« Reply #300 on: May 18, 2014, 12:05:22 PM »
I like the way she's standing "shoulders back, chest out" in a proper model's pose.  She was obviously dead chuffed to be asked to pose by such a debonair gentleman.

To be brutally honest, I'm not sure any of the rest of us have quite enough suaveness skills to be able to talk any young ladies into doing better than that pic!


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Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
« Reply #301 on: May 18, 2014, 17:51:32 PM »
Anyone flown Beacon Hill nr Newbury before?
I hear it's a bit of a hike to the top tomorrow looks like it'll be SE again and I'd like to try something different to Beachy Head...

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Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
« Reply #302 on: May 18, 2014, 19:09:59 PM »
Yes, I've flown there twice. That's the one that overlooks Highclere Castle where Downton Abbey is filmed.  It's quite good, I quite like it.  But it's not nearly as good as the major South Downs sites, and it's quite a tough climb up from the carpark so you wouldn't want to take a 4 metre scalie up there.  (Unless you're training for one of those Scandinavian wife-carrying races, in which case Beacon Hill would be a perfect workout.)


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Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
« Reply #303 on: May 18, 2014, 19:12:43 PM »
A different subject entirely: see on the For Sale ( to burn) thread there's an Alpina for 110 - bargain!
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Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
« Reply #304 on: May 18, 2014, 19:21:25 PM »
I have total respect for this guy...
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...but for some reason I think I'd rather be this guy:
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... and before you ask, the connection to this thread is that I'm benchmarking innovative approaches to large glider carrying techniques.
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Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
« Reply #305 on: May 18, 2014, 20:28:13 PM »
And guess what I'll be carrying up there...a 4.5 m scalie plus my 2.5m Swift...!

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Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
« Reply #306 on: May 18, 2014, 20:36:42 PM »
I'll see if I can find out, are we going to have a 'jolly' down there when it's on then?
In the mean time you need to post a 'teaser' of you latest acquisition Eric....we can play 'guess the glider'
We could even put on a display of scalies for them including my new 'un that I've been busy fettling and taking a few snaps of this afternoon  . . . . have I got you all foxed?
Pictures in the next 30 minutes. :af
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Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
« Reply #307 on: May 18, 2014, 21:57:57 PM »
Its now 21:58!! pictures please!
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Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
« Reply #308 on: May 18, 2014, 22:00:46 PM »
About to say the same but let's give the old boy a chance...
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Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
« Reply #309 on: May 18, 2014, 22:19:50 PM »
Not so much of the old boy Ian  ;) - my pictures were too large I've got to resize them
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Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
« Reply #310 on: May 18, 2014, 22:31:53 PM »
We could even put on a display of scalies for them including my new 'un that I've been busy fettling and taking a few snaps of this afternoon  . . . . have I got you all foxed?
Pictures in the next 30 minutes. :af

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Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
« Reply #311 on: May 18, 2014, 22:39:13 PM »
You all may recall a couple of years ago that Simon had a big Reynard Fox land in his garden. Well I had a similar thing happen over the weekend but this time it wasn't Reynard but a nice lady Arctic Fox. She has led a sheltered life for the past year and she is very shy, so I want to tell you a story.

Once upon a time the then owner of Artic Fox, Mr Ali, owing to pressing circumstances needed to find a new home for her. He sought far and wide for someone to give her a new home but no one was prepared to look after her. Then he remembered a kindly gentleman Mr Dave, who runs a hotel in Bournemouth and he agreed to look after her.

All through the very wet winter he kept her warm and dry and was seriously intending to bring her coat back to its original lustrous shine, but he was very busy with running his hotel and he was unable to do this. So, with heavy heart he took her along to the Blackbushe Model Airshow and put her at the back of his model sailplanes stand hoping that someone would be able to take her on.

Luckily for Arctic Fox another kindly gentleman Mr Eric, just happened to be passing when he spotted her out of the corner of his eye looking dejected at the back of the stand. Mr Eric had seen her photographs previously when Mr Ali was looking for someone to take her on but those photos certainly didn't do her justice - seeing her in the flesh, she was a different animal. Mr Eric could see that a little tender loving care could bring her coat back to its original sparkling self. Her canopy will need extra care but hopefully with the help of her creator, Mr Terry that will be rectified.

Mr Eric wanted to take her straight away and put her safely into his Glidermobile but Mr Dave asked if she could stay on the stand to attract people onto his sales area, a bit like a fairground attraction. Mr Eric said OK but he checked back frequently during the day to make sure that she wasn't being mistreated by the visitors to Mr Dave's emporium. Lots of people looked her over and wanted to take her but a sign was displayed to say that she had a new owner, so no harm befell her.

Finally the time came for Mr Eric to carefully take her apart and load her into the Glidermobile and head back to Kent. Before he left the airshow Mr Eric had a call from his friend Mr Simon and Mr Eric told him the good news of his rescue. Mr Simon was very excited and asked Mr Eric to call into his house on the way home so that he could meet Arctic Fox.

On arrival she was taken carefully out of the Glidermobile and Mr Simon inspected her thoroughly and as he has Reynard living with him, he knows all about Foxes and ther ailments. He pronounced her to be in good health and suggested how he could bring the shine back to her coat. Mr Simon also very kindly gave Mr Eric some components for him to be able to construct a proper cockpit which she has never had before and which will eventually be her crowning glory.

Mr Simon is looking forward to her and his Reynard flying together in the air above the South Downs in the not too distant future, but before then they will both take a trip to the birthplace of both Reynard and her, the Isle of Purbeck, in the middle of June and possibly they will fly together there
under the gaze of their creator Mr Terry . . . . and they all lived happily ever after.


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By the way Miss Arctic Fox doesn't yet have a name and she is sorely in need of one, so if anyone has any suitable suggestions these will be gratefully considered by Mr Eric and a naming ceremony will be held on the slopes of the hills on the Isle of Purbeck, her birthplace. Thank you.


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Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
« Reply #312 on: May 18, 2014, 22:45:24 PM »
Simon blew your secret in another thread Eric....what size have you gone for?
That's Ok - he was very excited about the possibilities.

5.39 metres with extended tips, 27.8 lbs without batteries and receiver - it already has plenty of church roof on board (the metric facility on my bathroom scales stopped working!)

Edit - So with the batteries and other bits on board it should top out at between 13.5 and 14 kg. I think that's a tad lighter than Simon's.
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Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
« Reply #313 on: May 18, 2014, 23:50:27 PM »
By the way Miss Arctic Fox doesn't yet have a name and she is sorely in need of one, so if anyone has any suitable suggestions these will be gratefully considered by Mr Eric and a naming ceremony will be held on the slopes of the hills on the Isle of Purbeck, her birthplace. Thank you.
Samantha (Fox) surely.......
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Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
« Reply #314 on: May 19, 2014, 00:28:02 AM »
Hi Eric,
Excellent read, but please tell,what did your wife and other none flyers think when you first showed them your new friend?

Happy to give any help you need,just ask.

Phil Hoegger is a personal friend of mine. we have flown together for more years then I care to mention. He is the driving force and instigator of the Blackbushe show. He did not have a stand this year due to commitments running up to the show.It is he who hosts the Piretech guys from Germany and it takes a lot of his time and effort getting them settled here before the show.

After the show ends, as of recent years we have made the Paritech boy's welcome at our slopes here in the Purbeck hills.(where the convention is to be held.) I have been flying with them all day today and will be again tomorrow.Their flying skills on the slopes are just the same as their show flying, with the same models and same panache.Phil booked them all (7 of them) into two mobile homes at Durdle Door. This slope flies over the sea,with uninterrupted wind from the Atlantic. Lift is fantastic and the back-drop view is just Gorgeous. They love our scenery and as I say stay and fly here every year. Tomorrow they have promised to fly the 1/2 scale Fox for me as a private show. 'I love Foxes'.Do you think they might let me have a go?They told me today that not so long ago for a bet they attached lights to the wings of the Fox and did the full routine in the dark!! for fun!! I hope they let me have a go!!  See yer.  Terry
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Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
« Reply #315 on: May 19, 2014, 01:22:45 AM »
Congrats on the Fox!

Why would somebody build a glider this large, you may as well use the real thing.
Totally different experience.  :af

Though pictures of his "monsters"(Austria & Vien) always makes me recall this video.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z49Os1DczgY" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z49Os1DczgY</a>
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Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
« Reply #316 on: May 19, 2014, 10:17:49 AM »
Many thanks.

Your posted video makes my new acquisition look quite tiny in comparison. However it is quite big enough in my workroom as I have to take the rudder off to stand it up against the wall.

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Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
« Reply #317 on: May 19, 2014, 18:31:25 PM »
Recently...  I have acquired as few new toys.

I an rather happy with them!

1.  A Merlin f3f
2. A willow f3f
4. An omikron f3b (which I accidently ordered a few minutes back!)

I think it's only just been released...  http://www.modellhobby.de/Models/Modelplanes/Full-composite-mouldies/Staufenbiel-OMNIKRON-F3B-electric-full-composite-3-05m.htm?shop=k_staufenb_e&a=article&ProdNr=0314049&t=130&c=31&p=31

What you think?

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Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
« Reply #318 on: May 19, 2014, 21:23:51 PM »
I love the Look of the omikron f3b
What happened to Number 3 ?
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Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 2
« Reply #319 on: May 19, 2014, 21:50:18 PM »
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