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Title: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: pheasant_plucker on June 21, 2018, 12:53:11 PM
Continuation of part 2  :af
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: ofej on June 21, 2018, 17:20:33 PM
Great session with the TM last night. Thanks Guys.
Despite not having flown any models for a loooong time (more than a year), and having given up on that last occasion as I had  smashed irreparably a lot of £models in 4 or 5 sessions, my fears of totalling my last Calypso Contest were unfounded!
When I work out how to get photos from my phone onto here I will do so.
Friends on FaceBook will have already seen some, anyone that wants to see some of the shots from last nights Midsummer Madness try this link...
https://www.facebook.com/jef.ott.3 (https://www.facebook.com/jef.ott.3)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Joe 90 on June 22, 2018, 05:16:18 AM
Good turn out on Wednesday evening. Plenty of flying going on and the most gliders in the air ive seen for a while. Look forward to the next one, Althought the M20 was shut delaying my journey home.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: THE BLACKBIRD on June 26, 2018, 20:35:41 PM
Joe that's a very nice picture
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: EricF on June 26, 2018, 21:32:52 PM
Our annual Summer Solstice evening event, held on the 20th owing to a forecast lack of SW wind on the 21st, was very well attended this year with not just our regulars but in addition fliers from Deal and Essex, good to see you guys. :af
We had an excellent session during the evening and we managed to get nearly all the aircraft in the air as the sun set, apart from those of Rob the "countdown manager" and the photographers Paul and Bob. 
See Goodwind Soaring to view Paul's excellent report and photographs.
Roll on the Winter Solstice session, see you there?  ;D  ;D  ;D


Event Report
At the weekend I visited Interglide F5J Eurotour 2018 event run by the BARCS team at the Hamilton Farm airstrip near Ashford, to help out with timekeeping duties. The event had competitors from the UK, France, the Netherlands and Germany to fly twelve rounds of F5J thermal soaring over two days. Two of the Dutch competitors I used to fly with in the Netherlands many years ago were present and it was good to see them again after some 25 years.

To be a timekeeper I needed to become fully acquainted with the F5J rules and Ian Nicholls, who was one of the fifty six competitors, helped me out in this respect. As it turned out I became Ian's timekeeper as his allocated timekeeping partner was unable to attend the event. I had last been a timekeeper over 20 years ago, but after a few rounds I managed to get back on track and be Ian's flightline helper and spotter as well.

The F5J competition is quite an interesting  combination of duration thermal soaring and using your £1,000+ glider as a lawn dart, without the hassle of winches and towlines. Note to self: make sure I attend the next thermal event at the Invicta MF club field to see how our local guys do it. Those of us with gliders with a fan on the front could also take part, Simon, Joe, Eric P, are you up for it?

At the final tally of scores, our own local Kent boy, Simon Thornton was on the third step of the podium to receive his spoils, although it had transpired that there was a scoring error and so he may have his goodies taken away once fresh batteries have been put in the calculator!

The BARCS team did a first class job of organising the event even down to providing a large screen TV in the marquee for anyone interested in a football match which was being played in some sort of international competition  :'',  but no one was watching it each time I peeked inside!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: swarrans on June 28, 2018, 06:12:39 AM
South Downs Friday??!!...

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: paul w on June 28, 2018, 14:57:35 PM
I've got to work tomorrow Simon  >:(

Looks like it'll be a lovely day.... have a good one and don't forget your sun cream.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Weds on June 28, 2018, 15:48:04 PM
South Downs Friday??!...

Si

I'm free. where are you thinking Simon
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: swarrans on June 28, 2018, 20:31:16 PM
Eric and I will be heading to Bopeep Pete...

I'm taking the Salto in case you want to do duet aerobatics!

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: paul w on June 29, 2018, 19:00:08 PM
How was it today chaps? Enquiring minds need to know......
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Weds on June 29, 2018, 19:20:16 PM
How was it today chaps? Enquiring minds need to know......

Sunny  :)
Lovely blue skys, thermally lift, not mega but adequate. Five of us there..

[attachimg=1]
Simon with the Salto

I'll let Simon tell you about one of his landings  ;D
Lots of traffic on way home, perhaps we should have stayed in the pub longer..
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: swarrans on June 29, 2018, 20:21:12 PM


I'll let Simon tell you about one of his landings  ;D
Lots of traffic on way home, perhaps we should have stayed in the pub longer..

Lovely day - albeit perhaps a little too warm...

3 good landings but the last one went that bit too far back at Bopeep and ended up landing sight unseen the other side of the fence.  Luckily the reliable Salto landing itself and no harm done
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: EricF on June 29, 2018, 20:47:56 PM
Yes, an excellent day on the South Downs with Si and Pete plus two guys from the flatlands of Essex but no Sussex Bods were anywhere to be seen. My last landing was absolutely perfect but unfortunately no one else saw it, not even the passing pair of walkers who had been admiring our flying for some time. :'(
Anyway Simon decided that after all that activity we needed a little taste of some Sussex ale and after fighting the traffic in Lewes, we eventually found a pub that was open and thoroughly enjoyed a sample of the local brew which went down well after a day on the slopes. :af

Senior moment update: Burt Munro was played by Hannibal Lecter who was played by Anthony Hopkins  ;D
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Triman on June 30, 2018, 10:28:53 AM
First time on Bopeep for this Essex boy. Thoroughly enjoyed it. Managed to avoid the traffic by having my dinner in the camper then flying afterwards till 630pm.
Bit more turbulent landing on the east side of the car park![attachimg=1]
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: THE BLACKBIRD on July 01, 2018, 07:09:17 AM
Sorry to intrude on your thread guys but need a little help, I'm looking for some air brakes for a scale glider I'm about to start building. a SZD PIRAT 30,   4m wingspan
Thought i had see some on HK but cannot find, any ideas
Thanks
Tony
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Joe 90 on July 01, 2018, 09:33:56 AM
Ventus is ready to Fly.At Last. Next good SW at weekend and she gets her maiden flight.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: GP on July 01, 2018, 09:48:00 AM
Quite surprising weather we're having - hot as heck yet the winds are not from the south. Normally I think it takes southerlies to really bring the heat in.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: EricF on July 16, 2018, 21:57:06 PM
An excellent session at Thurnham this evening.

A lovely warm south westerly breeze was enough to keep aloft a couple of Yagi type wings, a Phase 6, two Herons and a cracking small homebrew design by Eskie which sported a very thin efficient wing which refused to let him get the model back onto terra firma as the daylight rapidly disappeared. Eventually after half a dozen go-arounds, he got the model down safely with a perfectly executed very fast landing.

There was lots of slope related chat going on and it was good to see a number of keen guys on the slope who are less than half my age!   :'( :af

It looks like the south westerly flow will be with us for two or three more days, so see you at the slope one evening this week?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: paul w on July 17, 2018, 08:01:43 AM


It looks like the south westerly flow will be with us for two or three more days, so see you at the slope one evening this week?


Sounds like a plan Eric!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: swarrans on July 17, 2018, 10:31:24 AM
I will be passing the slope at about 4:30 tomorrow so I will be popping in then (Wednesday)

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: mark_snipz on July 17, 2018, 10:45:07 AM
Hope to get a fly in tomorrow at some point...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: paul w on July 17, 2018, 13:18:21 PM
I'll be up latter part of the afternoon too.... might be one of our last chances to fly above 400ft!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: EricF on July 17, 2018, 16:12:50 PM
I'll be there tomorrow at about 5:30 and I may even sneak out for another quick fly this evening. I'm taking the opportunity to get some flying in while I can as Thursday onwards looks to be pants for sloping. I think I'll pop down to Farnborough on Friday to get a taste of the full-size stuff.

The forecast for this evening is 12 - 15 mph, but tomorrow evening's forecast is 4 - 6 mph, so a floater or something with a fan on the front will most probably be the order of the day.

I'll also be maidening my latest model which I have built to fly at the BMFA Nationals at the end of August. I took the opportunity to build it while my wife was away in Switzerland over last weekend. ;) Let's say it's appropriate for the event it will be flown in!  ;D  ;D ;D
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: paul w on July 19, 2018, 09:44:06 AM
Potential cheap mouldie in Maidstone.....

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Calypso-Contest-3-3m-Moulded-RC-Glider/302806952902?hash=item4680b36bc6:g:NRcAAOSwOqBbTElX (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Calypso-Contest-3-3m-Moulded-RC-Glider/302806952902?hash=item4680b36bc6:g:NRcAAOSwOqBbTElX)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: ofej on July 20, 2018, 17:07:00 PM
Hope these links work - all were taken on the "Longest Day" session.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/DZTYLfbzxoumrbwR6
https://photos.app.goo.gl/GyzTEKrd8qxEjeVg7
https://photos.app.goo.gl/6v9SdpnNQsazcKvW8
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Wv69zFGBP5b2MBq29
https://photos.app.goo.gl/SE6iRAJgEPsVoiZy9
https://photos.app.goo.gl/BR4DCaNmtBESHDnL6
https://photos.app.goo.gl/uET9qDbP2B8QYhFc8
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: GP on July 20, 2018, 18:08:59 PM
Great photos
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: EricF on July 22, 2018, 22:42:55 PM
A perfect session this morning at Thurnham. A warm 10 mph south westerly gave me the 'flying fix' I needed.  :)
I could only stay until noon as I had to meet up with my wife for a paddle in the sea and some lunch. ::)
It was a shame no one else was there to enjoy the excellent conditions with me, just one dog walker and one mountain biker in the distance were the only people in evidence, maybe other fliers attended in the afternoon.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: swarrans on July 23, 2018, 07:16:58 AM
Indeed a shame - a had a friend's 60th party to go to at lunch and the rest of the day was a right off  ^-^
Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: EricF on July 23, 2018, 16:54:30 PM
. . . I had some falling down liquid in the afternoon as well!  :af  :''  ::)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: paul w on July 24, 2018, 15:39:35 PM
Anyone fancy an evening session tonight? I'm aiming to be up on the hill some time after 6ish.....
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: swarrans on July 24, 2018, 15:48:36 PM
Too late for me now I'm afraid Paul, just got home from work

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: EricF on July 24, 2018, 16:06:19 PM
I'll be there Paul!
I'm just about to have a snack to keep me going, so I should be on the slope between six and half past.
I'll bring the repaired, re-energised Skippy for another attempt at sustained flight!  ;D  ;D   :xx

Edit:
Conditions look to be perfect for the maiden flight of a Ventus!
Now who do we know who has got one just waiting for the right conditions?   :af

Edit 2:
A perfect session this evening in great conditions. Paul and I were still flying as the sun set in slightly challenging conditions as the wind died, but a cracking time was had by both of us!
I also managed to successfully maiden 'Skippy' and it performed well for Paul's video camera.when he demanded some very close-in flying action.
Footage may appear at sometime in the future on our favourite slope website, 'Goodwind Soaring'!   :af
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: EricF on July 24, 2018, 22:51:52 PM
GOOD NEWSl

The proposed 400 feet height limit applying to model aircraft under 7kg weight due to be implemented on 30th July within an updated Air Navigation Order, has been recinded for members of "specified  UK Model Aircraft Associations" and an exemption notice issued. See BMFA.org for full details.

The restriction still applies to model aircraft over 7kg weight and to multirotors. It's interesting to see that the CAA is starting to differentiate between between model aircraft and what are commonly referred to as drones.

RESULT!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: swarrans on July 25, 2018, 06:27:04 AM
Indeed great news Eric but I guess our 7kg models are still subject to the reinterpretion of the 400ft limit from surface rather than launch point?..

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: EricF on July 25, 2018, 18:05:58 PM
Yes, there is that issue!
I have been doing some calculations regarding our slope and I'm going do some height tests to see how that limitation will look to us when standing at the top of the hill.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: ofej on July 25, 2018, 23:24:19 PM
Here is a trace from the Calypso Contest flight which went through sunset on 20th June at Thurnham.

The model looked at its highest when over the launch point (ie as I remember it, it would not have been 400ft above the surface at any stage of the flight whether measured vertically, or perpendicular to the ground's surface).

As a matter of interest, does anyone know what the difference in height between the Pilgrim's Way and the launch point is?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: EricF on July 25, 2018, 23:48:58 PM
Jeff, The Pilgrims Way below our slope is approximately 90 metres according to OS contour lines and our launch point is 161 metres according to one of Simon's postings.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Jiggz on July 30, 2018, 12:25:21 PM
Hi all just joined here .. I may have met some of u chaps on sat at Thurnham ..
I had a great day and it was very inspiring to see all the great models and was a pleasure watching you all fly .
Hope to see u guys again soon
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: swarrans on July 30, 2018, 17:39:17 PM
Hi Jiggz - is that Geoff?!....

Simon (owner of the Fox you thoughtfully photographed!)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Jiggz on July 30, 2018, 19:45:00 PM
Hi Simon yes it's Jeff with a J lol
Thanks for the entertainment
I had a great time on sat a's these are footsteps into a new rc world for me ..
I did make a few vids but not sure how to post them here

I just got in from Thurnham and finished the evening with a nice long practice soar with my little lightning kindly launched by Eric P..

More of your fox[attachimg=1][attachimg=2][attachimg=3]
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: paul w on July 31, 2018, 10:47:38 AM
Anyone up for an evening session tomorrow (Wednesday)?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: EricF on July 31, 2018, 19:16:43 PM
I'll be (back) there!   :co.  . . . . with Skippy!

I've got my Vario and altimeter working now, but not many of us will need to worry about the latter facility now, thank goodness!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: flatlander on July 31, 2018, 20:50:11 PM
I'd like to join you if I may. I'm having a few days holiday, staying in Battle, from tomorrow. I've packed 4 gliders in the car and hope to throw them all off a hill or three this week. I have BMFA membership.

Where will you be flying?

TonyM
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: ofej on July 31, 2018, 21:14:01 PM
The "SlopeHunter" site is brilliant Tony, here is a link http://www.slopehunter.co.uk (http://www.slopehunter.co.uk)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Jiggz on July 31, 2018, 22:49:34 PM
I'm sure I can make it to thurnham. . Wind looks SW
On xc weather ..

Had another lovely afternoon at thurnham ..really helping me to relax and forget about work on my week off
With thanks to the chaps this afternoon for the education in thermals and helping me put it into practice .. spent 5+hours there ..the time just flies
A few more para's arrived in the evening so I watched them float about [attachimg=1][attachimg=2][attachimg=3][attachimg=4]
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: EricF on August 01, 2018, 06:31:51 AM
I'd like to join you if I may. I'm having a few days holiday, staying in Battle, from tomorrow. I've packed 4 gliders in the car and hope to throw them all off a hill or three this week. I have BMFA membership.

Where will you be flying?

TonyM
Those of us who have to work will be at Thurnham this evening, but you should find someone there all day.
Have a good one!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: paul w on August 01, 2018, 06:54:20 AM
You probably be best off coming up Castle Hill and parking in one of the laybys Tony.

You can see some fellow aeromodellers parked up on Google Streetview...

https://goo.gl/maps/PeL7nvN4PyL2
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: swarrans on August 01, 2018, 09:07:52 AM
I hope to be there about 5pm

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: flatlander on August 01, 2018, 09:33:30 AM
Thanks ofej, been studying that for a few days, it is a fantastic source. If the weather forecast is correct for Sunday and/or Monday then Long Man Hill or Butts Brow are looking good for me.

Thanks for the parking tip paul w, I'm calculating if my Nissan Leaf can do Manningtree-Thurnham Castle-Tunbridge Wells (Nissan Dealer) in one charge :'' - change of charging station, now Nissan in Maidstone - sorted :) I may well drop in to the slope on my way to Battle, may see people there later.

Tony

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: paul w on August 01, 2018, 09:39:26 AM
I hope to be there about 5pm

Si

Me too!

Look forward to seeing you all later....
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: mark_snipz on August 01, 2018, 10:44:36 AM
Me too!

Look forward to seeing you all later....

Nimbus in the car...be there nearer 6pm
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: ofej on August 01, 2018, 20:44:36 PM
Thanks ofej, ...

Apologies Tony.

ofej  =  Jef O
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Jiggz on August 01, 2018, 21:38:22 PM
Great evening at the slope!
 Dan and I left around 9

Most fun I have had flying for years ..and at one point the most crowded I have flown amongst ever.. thanks all
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Jiggz on August 02, 2018, 19:59:37 PM
https://youtu.be/MRS2NKgGcUQ

Hope this link works .. Thurnham wed evening
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: EricF on August 03, 2018, 15:01:16 PM
As much as I enjoy flying and seeing flown all types of model aircraft, I do not believe that our Thurnham slope is the place to fly powered model aircraft as witnessed this week.

There are a number of good reasons for me saying this.
Like all model aircraft flying sites we are only able to use these sites as long as we don't upset our 'neighbours', that is, adjacent landowners, businesses and property dwellers.
At Thurnham there are all of the above and we must take care not to upset or annoy them.

For newcomers to the site, you may not be aware that below and to the left of the slope that there is a horse riding training facility and that we have already been asked not to fly our gliders over that area as horses are easily spooked. Just imagine the ramifications of a young rider being thrown off a horse being spooked by a model aircraft.
Also at that end of the slope is Thurnham Keep, which is a guest house with holiday cottages within its grounds. It has lovely terraced gardens with a swimming pool and beautiful views across mid Kent, and whilst the owners who I have met at the Keep do not appear to mind our gliders flying silently overhead, I am sure they would not take kindly to powered models flying above them.

There are also ten or more dwellings along the Pilgrims Way who would also be able to hear powered models.

Therefore I am asking that the only type of powered models to be flown from the slope are gliders with sustainer type motor installations which are only turned on when lift conditions deteriorate and to prevent a landing out situation. Flying with a continuous motor run should be avoided. Warmliner and hotliner gliders are acceptable as long as the motors aren't too noisy or the motor run too long.

If people insist on flying powered models at the site then I have previously asked that they are flown at the back of the field away from the slope so as not to annoy our neighbours below the slope and once they know the reasons for this request then generally this has been accepted.

My view is that there are over ten model clubs within easy reach of Maidstone and that powered models should be flown there.

The Thurnham slope is a unique facility with one of the best landing areas in the whole of the South East and to lose this site through some fliers thoughtless actions would be an absolute tradegy to many of our model flying community who have been using the site for quite some time. I have been flying at site since the summer of 1973 and I would like to be able to use it for summers yet to come, as well as autumn, winter and spring!!

Anyway these are my views on the subject and it would be great if others would help by reminding visiting fliers that we do only have the use of this great site by our 'neighbours' tolerating our presence.

Thank you.

Edit: Removed double negative in first sentence, typos and poor grammar. I was typing on a tiny smart phone as my PC has died!  :embarassed:
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: swarrans on August 03, 2018, 16:08:19 PM
Whilst I think it is really difficult asking fellow flyers not to fly something and looking like a real "party pooper", I agree with you completely Eric and it would certainly be a tragedy if we lost glider flying rights at Thurnham

Simon
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: ofej on August 03, 2018, 19:37:32 PM
I am glad that you have written this, Eric. :uk:

On one or two, of the dozen or so, times I have used Thurnham, there have been screaming electric power models, their shapes resembling full-size fighter jets.

Whilst I found their presence completely inappropriate, I did not know about the neighbours, so just bit my lip and kept my thoughts to myself.

Thank you for enlightening us mere dabblers, so that we can do our duty in protecting Thurnham for all silent fliers, for the foreseeable future.

Jef
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Jiggz on August 03, 2018, 20:56:13 PM
Guys no need to bite your lip .. I wasn't sure as no one said anything ..please excuse my mid week action with the EDF .. I am not here to mess things up for the masses . I felt very welcome at the slope on all the occasions I have been flying there and only wish to gain a little knowledge of slope flying and I have gained a lot of advice and help so far from u kind chaps.. in fact I have felt more attracted to this side of the flying ..I think due to the many faces and like minded enthusiast's to natter to .

Pls guys tell me when I'm stepping out of line ..
As mentioned I don't want to ruin it for the masses ..

Will be bringing solely slope gliders providing I am still welcome
Regards
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: swarrans on August 03, 2018, 21:17:21 PM
Absolutely you are welcome Jeff - I think the only reason no one said anything is that there have been times when (Eric I think) had a well meaning chat with other visitors and was given a mouthful in return. 
We know you are not like that and we look forward to seeing you at Thurnham again soon .
simon
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Jiggz on August 04, 2018, 09:50:23 AM
Thanks simon .

I popped into the model shop this morning to get some paint for my lightning and came home with a new box

I'm hoping this will get me started in the molded dept

Great planes siren . Carbon fibre fuzz ..wood built up wing covered .
As always with a new model I'm excited ..and can't wait to get her built and on the slope
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: EricF on August 04, 2018, 10:40:40 AM
Thanks for your support chaps. I did post with some trepidation wondering how it would be received, but I felt it was time for the subject to be aired.

Jeff, There's no need for you to apologise, you weren't aware of, nor had you been informed of, the conventions at the site. It's great to have enthusiastic young guys like you and Dan flying with us.
Similarly we like to encourage pilots to stand either near to the 'pits' or down by the fence and not in-between as that's where other pilots like to safely carry out low passes.

I didn't want to spoil the day's flying session as it was excellent to see everyone enjoying themselves, but when people elsewhere on the site start to comment on the noise of the models, then it is time to do something about it ourselves.
The site is a Kent County Council facility to be enjoyed all sections of the community, not just we model fliers.

I also fly powered models occasionally but at the Barton's Point MFC where the club has use of an excellent Swale Borough Council owned and maintained model flying facility.

I admit that I did test fly my pink slow-flyer model, my wife calls it my 'girlie plane', at the site last week in preparation for the free flight event at the BMFA Nationals later this month, but I kept it 'our side' of the fence and there weren't any other people around. It is less than I metre wingspan, is powered by a tiny brushed electric motor and weighs less than 300 grams but won't be seen at the slope again. If you want to see its one and only successful flight, visit the Goodwind Soaring website.

I hope that I haven't offended anyone, but I only raised the subject to increase awareness of the fragility of our ability to use the site.

Here's to happy continued flying at Thurnham.  :) :) :)


PS: Jeff, Looking foreward to seeing your Siren, I always wanted one of those. :af
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: flatlander on August 07, 2018, 12:51:02 PM
I've not posted since last week as where I was staying there was barely a mobile signal and the internet was .2Mb/s  - and that dropped out regularly. To be cut off like that was brilliant, must do it again soon :-) Fishing (https://www.wylands.co.uk/)

I dropped in at Thurnham Castle Wednesday afternoon, around 10 paragliders having fun in the breeze and occasional thermal, so no flying for me.

Called in again on my way home on Monday evening, only one paraglider there and he was struggling to get airborne as there was too much South in the wind. I had a flight with my ST Models DG-1000 with pop-up motor but couldn't sustain height, used the motor once to get back to a sensible position on the slope and again to get enough height to land safely.

Flew the DG-1000 at Butts Brow on Sunday, a couple of other guys flying light-weight models too as the breeze wasn't enough for anything big and wasn't directly on the slope as the forecast had indicated.

So several excellent days fishing, flying a bit so-so - hopefully better next time.

Hi Jef! :-) long time no see.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Allen the soarer on August 16, 2018, 08:03:33 AM
Going past Thurnham today (about lunchtime)
Oops some planes fell in my car  :ev

Weather permitting  :xx
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: paul w on August 16, 2018, 08:55:12 AM
Going past Thurnham today (about lunchtime)
Oops some planes fell in my car  :ev

Weather permitting  :xx

Hope the weather is on your side Allen, I'm working today unfortunately.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: swarrans on August 16, 2018, 11:08:49 AM
Looking rather wet!...

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Allen the soarer on August 16, 2018, 18:48:25 PM
Yep. No flying forme :(
I was looking forward to a little Turnham action
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Jiggz on August 19, 2018, 10:17:25 AM
Hi chaps
Dan and I had a chance to pop to thurnham for the afternoon yesterday .. was really suprised to see we were alone on the slope .. we spent a few hours flying the zagi's until a few more pilots arived. 
Eagle eyed Eric spotted a dot moving at pace in the distance and came to the conclusion it must be a jet .probably a Typhoon .. low and behold 10mins later a Typhoon came roaring over .
I managed another unpowered flight with my lightning using the searching advice Charlie gave me on the last visit .
As usual I had my cam . U chaps will probably have noticed if I don't have a TX in my hand I have my cam

All in all a very fun and rewarding trip .
I spent the evening puting a zagi movie together

Hope u all enjoy
https://youtu.be/uiLN0xn4-Ok

Regards
Jeff
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: paul w on August 19, 2018, 17:30:30 PM
Thanks for the update Jeff, I've been working all weekend but would have
loved to have been up on the hill. Hopefully I'll be able to get out and play
tomorrow evening if I can clear the decks!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: EricF on August 20, 2018, 09:38:39 AM
Had a good session on Saturday morning with Charlie and a couple of guys from Surrey with the conditions being spot on.
Yesterday attended the multilaunch glider competition at the Invicta Club field chatting, helping out with timekeeping and slot running and on the way home called in to Thurnham where a couple of guys from the Barton's Point Club were just finishing their session with Phase 6 and a glider trainer.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Nicholls on August 20, 2018, 10:29:12 AM
Oops Eric you forgot to mention the model and other bits you bought!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: EricF on August 20, 2018, 12:55:14 PM
I was trying to keep quiet about buying another model!!

Alan T tells me that to reduce his fleet, if he has a crash he doesn't bother to repair the model, he just bins it  - what a cracking strategy!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Jiggz on August 21, 2018, 18:33:14 PM
Hey all .
I had a little bonus at work today .. a guy at one of my glass suppliers got a glider out his van and said are you interested in this before I throw it away?

I took it strait off of him ..

It's a Cermark Victor v-tail . About 1450mm
No motor or spinner and wings need separating and re fixing as someone has used a ton of epoxy to join .. the wings r wood covered and the fuzz is fibreglass .. had a few repairs but should be good enough to lark about with ..

Does anyone have any knowledge on this bird as I am considering moulding a spinner onto the nose and flying without a motor

Regards
Jeff
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Weds on August 24, 2018, 21:38:19 PM
Another one joins the ranks, Sunbird wings and a built up ply fuselage.

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Just Charlie and me at Thurnham today on a slight westerly but smooth lift

Bit of trim and CofG adjustment and it flew fine..
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: mark_snipz on August 25, 2018, 09:42:18 AM
Another one joins the ranks, Sunbird wings and a built up ply fuselage.

Combat??
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Weds on August 25, 2018, 10:03:13 AM
Combat??

Noooo.... I don't think so..  >:(
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Jiggz on August 25, 2018, 22:16:49 PM
That's a nice lookin pair weds

I have spent the day searching for a setup for my siren
I have managed to make up a usable setup
It's starting to come together now and I really can't wait to get her on the slope .. those maiden jitters are already creeping up on me

No flying for me this weekend as it's me little girls birthday on Sunday I have also been busy stripping down and cleaning up the wings and fuzz on the v-tail I aquired ..

Hope u guys all have good fun and weather this weekend

Regards
Jeff
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: swarrans on August 26, 2018, 07:27:43 AM
Might give Wrotham a go today if the rain holds off...

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: swarrans on August 27, 2018, 10:53:06 AM
Thurnham today I think...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Jiggz on August 27, 2018, 19:37:32 PM
I was a little late to the party .. I got to the slope about 3:30 but missed everyone .

I had another zagi battle with Dan which left us both giggling uncontrollably .. at one point I skimmed across Dans zagi and switched his onboard on off switch rendering him disabled

I'm hoping the weather is good for Sunday afternoon as I intend to maiden my siren ..

Simon ..did u forget something at the slope ?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: swarrans on August 28, 2018, 05:07:39 AM

Simon ..did u forget something at the slope ?

Yes Jeff - Dan called me and pointed out he had picked up my Wicked Wing!  Just another one of the joys of getting older!!...

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: mark_snipz on September 01, 2018, 17:26:14 PM
A good afternoon at Wrotham as the wind came round to the South. I nearly landed out once but managed a recovery, then the next flight was in booming lift.

Simon passed his BMFA Slope A Test...under a steely examination from Bob. Well done Si!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Bob Ryan on September 01, 2018, 19:15:21 PM
It was a very nervous Simon. His knees were definitely shaking.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: EricF on September 01, 2018, 19:58:47 PM
Well done Si - we've finally got you certified!  :af

As I only  had a short time slot available this afternoon, I flew my newly acquired DLG at Thurnham for an hour or so.
I'll be at the F5J at Sutton Valence tomorrow morning.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Nicholls on September 01, 2018, 20:19:08 PM
Be good to see you again at a "glider" comp! Have you recovered from your Cavell inflicted groin injury Eric?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: EricF on September 02, 2018, 07:44:19 AM
Fully recovered Ian, I even went to a hoe-down at the local village hall yesterday evening.   :co

I'll visit you guys at SV for a short while this morning then I'll be heading to Holly Hill for some slope action!  :)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: swarrans on September 02, 2018, 13:14:56 PM
I'm having a bit of a clear out of old bits and pieces - first up, a Multiplex model carrier (fuselage, wings up to about 2.6m span (the bag is about 1.3m long).  Offers, £15?....

Can't be bothered to post so it'll need to be one of the Thurnham Massive!

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: mick a on September 02, 2018, 19:50:07 PM
hi simon
if the bag is still up for sale iíll take it
mick
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: swarrans on September 02, 2018, 20:17:52 PM
It's yours Mick!

Catch you at Thurnham sometime - unless you're really keen and want to pick it up sometime!

Simon
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: mick a on September 02, 2018, 21:00:30 PM
thanks simon
will pick up from thurnham, wind looks good for weekend (up to now)if your there ?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: swarrans on September 03, 2018, 05:34:54 AM
If the wind is in the right direction I'll be there!

Simon
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Jiggz on September 05, 2018, 18:43:36 PM
Congratulations on your A Simon
I haven't had much chance to fly recently as it's been a busy few weeks
I'm really hoping to get out this weekend
I'm still awaiting maiden of my siren
I spent some time this weekend converting a little chuck glider to 'hopefully' rc slope soarer (if it flies. It's a 435mm span alpha jet using umx servos and as3x ail rudd elev .. no motor
All up weight of 95g .. here's hoping

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: swarrans on September 06, 2018, 05:28:26 AM
If the wind is in the right direction I'll be there!

Simon
Apart from Saturday when Paul, Eric and I plan on going to Ivinghoe Beacon for their nostalgia event that is!

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: GP on September 06, 2018, 13:59:44 PM
Ah, so what vintage models do you plan to fly at Ivinghoe?

Winds looking perfect for Thurnham this weekend. At Ivinghoe I guess you'll be on the west slope. Just have to hope the wind is west enough rather than too southerly. I wouldn't fancy flying a vintage rudder-only model in a 45-degree-to-the-slope wind!

Title: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: EssJay on September 06, 2018, 14:37:53 PM
Apart from Saturday when Paul, Eric and I plan on going to Ivinghoe Beacon for their nostalgia event that is!

Si

I reckon youíll be ok [emoji106]
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: swarrans on September 07, 2018, 06:07:05 AM
Ah, so what vintage models do you plan to fly at Ivinghoe?

Winds looking perfect for Thurnham this weekend. At Ivinghoe I guess you'll be on the west slope. Just have to hope the wind is west enough rather than too southerly. I wouldn't fancy flying a vintage rudder-only model in a 45-degree-to-the-slope wind!
Eric has exhumed the contents of his loft (well about a 10th of it anyway!) to provide me with a model - it even has ailerons!  But will it roll.......
Paul has dug out (possibly literally) the model that gives him his moniker - Middle Phase and confirmed it has no woodworm - so we're all set - albeit I think you're right the wind direction isn't ideal...

Simon
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Nicholls on September 07, 2018, 10:13:44 AM
Hi all
My apologies if I've placed this announcement under the wrong topic, however........
Due to problems beyond my control, but mainly the weather, I am having to defer this year's ISA Nostalgia Day from tomorrow, Saturday 8th September to the fall-back date of Saturday 15th September. My apologies to all the flyers looking forward to this but, unfortunately you'll have to wait a short lime longer, sorry!
I'll be on the Ivinghoe slope on Saturday to explain or apologise to any attendees that didn't see this notice on the ISA website or read the notice to ISA members sent yesterday
BTW I'll probably also be at Ivinghoe later today should anyone would like to complain to me in person
Regards
Pete Beadle
Organiser
ISA Nostalgia Day
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: paul w on September 07, 2018, 12:28:26 PM
Thanks for the update Ian.... fingers crossed for the weather next week then!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: EricF on September 07, 2018, 18:32:31 PM
Just spotted the posting from Pete Beadle re the postponement of the Nostalgia Day until next Saturday - thanks Ian!

I've spent the day getting four vintage models dusted off and radio gear checked out, so at least I won't have much to do next Friday, just charge the batteries.

Gary, the models I have ready are:
Mike Trew 'Countryman' - 46 years old
Chris Foss 'Miniphase' - over 40 years old
Chris Foss 'Phase 6' - at least 35 years old
Dick Edmonds 'Algebra' (wooden fuselage) - 40 years old

I think I'll go to the Southern Model Show tomorrow instead.  :)

Edit: Change of plan, as the Phase 6 Pro has a symmetrical section and needs a fair blow, I think that I'll visit Thurnham around lunchtime when the wind will be up to about 15 mph, and give the old girl and the MiniPhase, a test fly.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: GP on September 08, 2018, 18:34:12 PM
Dubious looking lot at Thurnham today.
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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: GP on September 08, 2018, 18:38:03 PM
Finally convinced one of the young'uns to take up flying.

Used two cheap Spektrum DXe transmitters, wireless master/slave, worked a treat.

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: EricF on September 09, 2018, 08:42:26 AM
Josh flew well Gary, although he did have a few interesting arrivals, ie, splatted across the fence one time - well done Josh!

My Phase 6 Pro (pictured above - thanks Gary), flew well and it did manage to survive going inadvertently into the 'combat zone' at the bottom of an outside loop which screwed offline.  ;D  Anyway it's fully tested and ready to fly at the Nostalgia Day next Saturday. Next to test out is the Countryman!

I'm off to the Southern Model Show now to pick up some bit and pieces, but no more models!  :xx
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Jiggz on September 09, 2018, 11:11:19 AM
Great day yesterday at thurnham
Most I have laughed in a long time
I'm sure I ended up at the bottom of the combat table as I took many walks of shame to the other side of the fence ..
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Jiggz on September 09, 2018, 21:52:48 PM
HI all . I had another great afternoon on the slope and I was happy with the alpha jet maiden ..after a little.fiddling and some input from the thurnham massive she was airborne .. 'thanks chaps!!' I didn't fly anything else .
Had 4 great flights with the little.alpha and enjoyed every second .. I came home with a big grin!
Here is a link to the maiden flights if anyone is interested
https://youtu.be/Q0uCjWLEqaY
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Jiggz on September 12, 2018, 21:14:49 PM
Saturday's wing warfare at Thurnham
https://youtu.be/lAa6RkxyHMU
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: EricF on September 16, 2018, 22:08:20 PM
Simon and I had a good session at the Ivinghoe Soaring Association's Nostalgia Day held at Ivinghoe Beacon where about 20 different vintage gliders were flown by a similar number of vintage model fliers.

It was our first visit to the Beacon and were surprised by the distance we had to walk from the car park to the Beacon itself where we were to fly on the west slope in a WSW wind of 10-15 mph. When we parked we could see the Beacon in the distance at least half a mile away and to get to it meant walking down into a valley and then straight up a very steep slope to the top where all the fliers and lots of picnickers and walkers were gathering. An alternate double diagonal route to the top, nicknamed 'The Cardiac Path', was pointed out to me but I manned up to the challenge and took the direct route to the top! My heart bypass grafts served me well!

Ivinghoe Soaring Association has 145 members and we were told that most are active fliers and  looking at the terrain that they need to walk across to get to the various slopes on the Beacon, they must all be very fit!

We took along four of my vintage models, all of which were over 35 years old and to be in keeping with the spirit of the day, I flew on 35 megs. Simon put his 2.4 gear in my wooden Algebra, but whatever he did he couldn't get it to roll! As you are all aware, Simon normally only flys aircraft that can roll, and this one wouldn't. I flew the MiniPhase and the Countryman but I had left the Phase 6 Pro in the car and it was just too far to walk back to get it. Simon was pleased that we hadn't taken his 1/3rd scale K6 as it would have been near impossible to get it to the slope.

In all a good day's outing with a very friendly welcome from the ISA guys.

PS - Today I flew my venerable Phase 6 Pro at Thurnham after not being able to fly it yesterday. With its fully symmetrical wing section, it performed perfectly both upright and inverted in the 15-20 mph south westerly blow. There was a good sized group of fliers there today with various people coming and going as the day progressed.

PPS - If you haven't already completed the Government's Drone survey, please do it ASAP as the closing date is Monday 17th September at 23:45hrs - today. The future of model flying in this country as we know it, could be at stake!
Thank you.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: swarrans on September 17, 2018, 06:06:02 AM
Just to add to Eric's report - it is not often these days that I am the second youngest in a large group!!  Considering the collective age of the group, their ability to scale "Mount Ivinghoe" is more than impressive - I guess if we were to do it regularly we too would get fitter but for the moment I'm happy to stick with our namby-pamby North and South Downs!
It was really interesting to see another slope but yet again it does show how blessed we are with Thurnham and Firle et al and their combination of great slopes and excellent landing areas.

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: ofej on September 17, 2018, 23:20:47 PM
While you were going North, I was going South.

Scaling of a similar sized bump was involved, but, alas, without a winged vehicle.

My ability to cycle was tested as I completed the London to Brighton charity bicycle ride in aid of a Robotic Surgery unit, where I work, at Broomfield Hospital.

This was my first time up Ditchling Beacon without my Calypso Contest and a wardrobe of clothing, and it was strange to be there in a Southerly!

My first visit to Ivinghoe was in a "Sit up and beg" Ford Anglia E93A, long before my Dad or I had flown with r/c. There were some big models being relatively successfully flown there in what seemed like a gale at the time, but it was probably only 20-25mph. I was about 50 years younger than I am now, and the memory has turned to monochrome, with a sepia tint!

As such, I have always considered Ivinghoe to be the Mecca of rc slope flying, and it really surprised me that you had never been there before Eric.

I have been to one or two of the nostalgia days and was disappointed that I could not attend this one.

Thanks for telling us of your experiences though (Eric and Simon), please continue to do so!

Jef
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: EricF on September 18, 2018, 17:34:46 PM
. . . and I've never flown at Ditching either Jef!  :af

However, I have flown at notable sites such as the Malvern Hills, Long Mynd, Hole of Horcum, Purbeck Hills, various sites in north, west and south of France, and also at the Torrey Pines Gliderport in southern California.

All the best

Eric
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Jiggz on September 18, 2018, 22:10:20 PM
Sounds like you chaps had quite the hike on Sunday

I couldn't make thurnham on sat as I was making model volcanos with my little girl.for her first school project ..
I made a trip on sun and stayed for around an hour and half .. flew my little alpha jet which I'm very happy with
https://youtu.be/bM7_UxCkgKg

I have spent this evening fixing the wings on my aquired Victor and also strengthened and straitened the fuzz
I need just cover the wings and run the ail servo wires
Hopefully will be out Sunday with her weather permitting.

I have never flown a v.tail before so I would be most greatfull if one of the thurnham massive could look over it before I throw it off the hill ..
Regards
Jeff

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: swarrans on September 19, 2018, 06:23:12 AM
As long as the elevators go in the right direction you'll be fine Jeff (I have in the past accidentally had the rudder movement reversed - ask Bob! - and whilst it won't fly well like that it will fly!  Obviously the correct way is that if you give it right rudder both elevator halves should go right.  Personally I wouldn't worry too much about the subtleties of differential etc

Simon
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: paul w on September 19, 2018, 08:16:59 AM
Also make sure there's no slop in the elevator linkage Jeff..... they look like quite
large control surfaces  which is not a problem in itself, but they will magnify any
double centring.

I look forward to seeing it in the flesh!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: GP on September 19, 2018, 20:49:23 PM
Ivinghoe has a big catchment area - it's the best place for miles around - and it has the major advantage of having slopes facing various directions. But it's not the South Downs. Those are world class. Remember how amazed the Germans were by the South Downs?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Jiggz on September 19, 2018, 23:25:44 PM
Thanks for the rapid advise Simon and Paul
I have spent this evening working on the Victor
I'm pretty pleased with how she is turning out in comparison to the condition she was in when I first took hold
I have decided to replace all the electronics ..the rud and elev servos don't match and the rods are set on different throw's
(No wonder she was a wreck)
Hopefully will be complete by Friday evening so I can tempt my luck on the weekend ..hoping for a good wind
Fairly excited to be perfectly honest
First moldy maiden + first V tail
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: mick a on September 19, 2018, 23:59:33 PM
gp
where these the germans that had come over 3 weeks travelling to wales and back
if so met them at long man hill on their way back to dover
told them about thurnham etc
not sure if got there as wind was wrong way
seemed like nice guys and flew some good models
or am i totally wrong
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: GP on September 20, 2018, 08:03:24 AM
Yes, they came annually for several years. May still be coming, although I haven't seen them lately. They brought very fancy planes and flew at various places on the south downs. I remember they commented that UK flyers are welcoming, in contrast to German flyers who are often not. As I understand it, Germany has alps with thermals but no clear wind path (other alps in the way), so they have to milk thermals. Also, there are not many good spots, so they get overcrowded, and flyers get unfriendly to other flyers. They were amazed by the big lift at the South Downs, and the amount of empty space without crowds of flyers. Last time I saw them, they struck drizzly windless weather, maybe that put them off coming back.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: swarrans on September 20, 2018, 09:19:48 AM
There are quite a few separate groups of German people who visit our hallowed Downs - I've met at least 3 different groups.  Some of their building skills are totally awesome - scratch built fully moulded Scale and F3F gliders!

Simon
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: paul w on September 20, 2018, 11:32:08 AM
There are quite a few separate groups of German people who visit our hallowed Downs - I've met at least 3 different groups.  Some of their building skills are totally awesome - scratch built fully moulded Scale and F3F gliders!

Simon


The group I bumped into last year- http://goodwindsoaring.blogspot.com/2017/11/auslanders.html (http://goodwindsoaring.blogspot.com/2017/11/auslanders.html) are planning
to be back 13th to 20th of October. They reckon not much else compares to the South Downs (other than Thurnham of course  ;))
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: GP on September 20, 2018, 11:37:20 AM
They're too intimidated by the mighty Thurnham to attempt it
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: paul w on September 20, 2018, 11:52:07 AM
They're too intimidated by the mighty Thurnham to attempt it

It takes a special breed...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: mark_snipz on September 21, 2018, 18:24:14 PM
Decent blow at Thurnham this morning, mega lift when a fast moving thermal blew through...just Si and myself though.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: paul w on September 21, 2018, 21:12:53 PM
Decent blow at Thurnham this morning, mega lift when a fast moving thermal blew through...just Si and myself though.

At least you weren't Billy-no-mates! Unfortunately I was working but
I'm hoping to get out tomorrow morning as it's my only slot for the next week or so....
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: EricF on September 21, 2018, 22:00:10 PM
I couldn't make it today either as I had some plumbing to do, but I will be there tomorrow morning, Paul.

See you there! :af
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: paul w on September 22, 2018, 08:30:38 AM
I'm heading off up there now, though the forecast 10-18mph means I've packed the wrong tools.
If it's too light I'll go home and sulk / cut the grass before the rain sets in.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Jiggz on September 22, 2018, 12:26:31 PM
Did u beat the rain Paul?

I'm super happy with my victor progress ..
I was up til 3am this morning covering the wing (was up for work at 06:00..
It's my first attempt and had to 'borrow' the missus iron
Very theroputic .. just need to finish a few odds and she's done . Fuzz still need's a little filler but I will deal with that once I have maidend her .. was hoping for thurnham tomorrow but wind is wrong and raining til 1600
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: paul w on September 22, 2018, 13:42:45 PM
It was very light but flyable Jeff... unfortunately I had to leave pretty much as soon as I got there
as my wife had trouble with her car.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Jiggz on September 22, 2018, 22:41:57 PM
My Victor is ready for the slope ..

Pls excuse my constant mentioning of my v tail but I'm sooo lookin fwd to seeing how it flies ..plus this is my first model where I had to repair and raplace balsa
Covering came out pretty well for my first attempt so I'm chuffed
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: paul w on September 23, 2018, 09:37:12 AM
Looks great!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: EricF on September 25, 2018, 15:55:25 PM
Leaving for Thurnham in 15 minutes for a quick fly before the sunsets, as I didn't get any flying in at the weekend.  :)

Edit : Changed my mind as it looks like the wind is dropping off.
I'll go tomorrow evening instead as the forecast looks much better.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Jiggz on September 25, 2018, 16:22:20 PM
I was just about to leave for thurnham with my Victor but I will hold off if u think the winds to light eric

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: paul w on September 25, 2018, 19:37:57 PM
I'll try and join you tomorrow...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: swarrans on September 26, 2018, 14:37:05 PM
I've been contacted by someone who wants to join Invicta and learn to fly.  He has an "ambitious" model as a starter so does anyone have a Futaba buddy lead we could borrow?!

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: EricF on September 26, 2018, 15:22:19 PM
Sorry Simon I haven't got one.
I just tell the pupil to give me the transmitter pronto when I tell him to!!

Just about to leave for the slope, looks like it should be a good session, now where's my double strength sunglasses!  :co  :co
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Jiggz on September 26, 2018, 21:38:19 PM
Simon .. I have a 3mtr spectrum lead ..3.5m jacks ..
You are welcome to try

Great evening at thurnham.
I maidn'd my Victor!
All went great.. a few clicks of up elev and she was smooth as silk .. need to drop the ail throws as she was a little to responsive for me
Very happy! ..I had just an hour window to spare and achieved my mission ..

BIG THANKS to Eric F for the help in setting up spotting and support guiding me through my first mouldie flight ..
Maiden vid
https://youtu.be/4LOB7yGJu5M

Another highlight for me was watching Paul''s graceful giant wing cruising around .. very therouputic. . A masterpiece in my opinion
https://youtu.be/OLj-OLuVqdo

Hope to see u all soon in a good wind and I can actually put the Victor through some paces

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Jiggz on September 26, 2018, 22:12:32 PM
I kept quite as did we all when that happen'd .. I didn't know what to think or do .. it was horrid to witness and I'm sure pauls heart sunk ..
Would have liked to spend a while longer into sunset but had time to keep ..
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: paul w on September 27, 2018, 06:07:05 AM
I kept quite as did we all when that happen'd .. I didn't know what to think or do .. it was horrid to witness and I'm sure pauls heart sunk ..
Would have liked to spend a while longer into sunset but had time to keep ..

Thanks for the video Jeff..... so pleased the maiden went well especially in such marginal conditions.

Duke and his chair will be forever remembered by the leading edge sheeting of my wing... hopefully I'll be able to push
most of the damage back into shape and make a half decent repair  :'(

I'm going to try and get out again tonight and enjoy the last of the flyable evenings. Tomorrow is looking really good for the South Downs
but I have to work unfortunately.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: mick a on September 27, 2018, 09:08:45 AM
is anyone going to south downs tomorrow , bo-pep looks good
or are there better slopes  in a N.E ?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: swarrans on September 27, 2018, 12:08:05 PM
Mark is going Mick.  I have to work unfortunately

Simon
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: EricF on September 27, 2018, 13:43:02 PM
I'm just about to slip up the slope before it starts to swing round to the north. :)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Bob Ryan on September 27, 2018, 17:21:42 PM
Charley and I are going to South Downs tomorrow morning. Weíll keep an eye out for Mark.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: EricF on September 27, 2018, 19:40:16 PM
Is this the Messiah taking up slope soaring?
No, it's Paul becoming incandescent after Duke's picnic chair attacked Paul's 'Big Wing' yesterday.
Actually Paul remained remarkably calm after the event!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Bob Ryan on September 27, 2018, 19:48:45 PM
Alleluia.   ALLELUIA.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Bob Ryan on September 27, 2018, 20:06:38 PM
Find out more about the invention of 2.4 ghz radio see channel 5 TV now.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Bob Ryan on September 27, 2018, 20:20:46 PM
Correction BBC 4 Hedi Lamarr, Actress and inventor.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Jiggz on September 27, 2018, 21:25:19 PM
Thanks for the video Jeff..... so pleased the maiden went well especially in such marginal conditions.

Duke and his chair will be forever remembered by the leading edge sheeting of my wing... hopefully I'll be able to push
most of the damage back into shape and make a half decent repair  :'(

I'm going to try and get out again tonight and enjoy the last of the flyable evenings. Tomorrow is looking really good for the South Downs
but I have to work unfortunately.
Thanks Paul .. I was over the moon with the 8 min low wind flight was looking fwd to seeing how a moulded flies and it didn't dissapoint ..

I really wanted to visit the slope this evening .. my last job was in me15 near the old itv studio ..but didn't have a model .. when the Victor is complete I am planning on making a storage box for her and keeping in my van for such occasions ..

Paul.. as for the big wing every scar tell's a tail ..
I was utterly impressed with the workmanship that went into creating that Leviathen  and can appreciate the time and skill that goes into that beautiful wood work on display  ... me grandfather was a chippy & wood turner amongst other trades and his work very much inspired me to be hands on in life .. also a pioneer glider builder ..I have a ton of his plans and a few half built wings as well as all the ol elev timers  ..

Quick question to all ..
I'm getting close to painting my fuzz ..
What is the best paint and process that will last and withstand rash on the fiberglass fuselage ??
Would greatly appreciate any advise
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: paul w on September 28, 2018, 16:09:54 PM
Charley and I are going to South Downs tomorrow morning. Weíll keep an eye out for Mark.

Hope you've had a good time chaps.... full report please!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: paul w on September 28, 2018, 16:13:04 PM

Paul.. as for the big wing every scar tell's a tail ..
I was utterly impressed with the workmanship that went into creating that Leviathen.....


Thanks Jeff, now this one has a nasty scar I can but dream about building another (more pristine) one!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: GP on September 28, 2018, 18:22:49 PM
Wow, what marvellous conditions at Bopeep today. One of those classic days we seemed to have more of a few years ago ... or maybe that's just me. Mark and I were saying we think it's the first time we've been to Bopeep this year, which seems hard to believe but I think it's true.
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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: mark_snipz on September 28, 2018, 18:41:02 PM
It was a pretty good day to say the least...amazing lift yet it wasn't freezing! I may have had a Bo Peep day back in March...but it couldve been Firle, nearing 50 and my memory is fading...

A grand total of ten flyers at one point and lot's of full size about to keep us on our toes.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: swarrans on September 28, 2018, 20:39:55 PM
The only thing I don't like about that news is that I wasn't there!

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: EricF on September 29, 2018, 08:21:58 AM
As I was short of time yesterday, I popped over to Minster Cliffs for an excellent mid-afternoon session in the smooth north easterly blow.
It wasn't at all cold, especially as we were standing in the lee of the cliff edge.
I was flying my vintage Phase 6 Pro which performed well, and the other guys there were all flying Zagis.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Jiggz on September 29, 2018, 15:42:06 PM
I'm itching to get another flight on my Victor I will be at thurnham with the next decent wind .. I might have secured another v tail mouldie which needs a tiny amount of work. I will update with some picks on Monday
Because the wind hasn't permitted for soaring I have had to resort to the next best thing
A beautiful sunny day and a big spitfire

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: EricF on September 30, 2018, 10:29:42 AM
Give us some specs on the Spitfire please Jeff. :af

I did the same thing as you Jeff and went to the flat field for some electric action taking four models with me, although it is a bit of a faff preparing enough batteries for a reasonable number of flights.
Sloping is easy, one battery per model keeps you flying all day. :af
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Jiggz on September 30, 2018, 16:27:51 PM
Eric F..
The spitfire is the new flightline 1/7 scale
Full scale oleos
I think it's a 460kv motor spinning a scale 4 blade
On 5000 6s
Flaps . Gear . Full nav lights . I added all the weathering to my liking ..I like a warbird to look like she's been busy. Flies like an absolute dream .. I'm up to about 45 flights with her so far . I also took my 1500mm twin 70mm messerschmit me262
https://youtu.be/kvLvgPFfTu4

https://youtu.be/VgsP2zsvs18

I could use some help identifying a model I bought today as it's beyond my knowledge
It's 61"  wood fuzz .. wood semi covered wing
The servos are skyleader I.C
Can anyone take up the challenge of identification

Also picked up a 1400 e.hawk v tail
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: paul w on September 30, 2018, 16:43:45 PM
Solent Sailplanes Ridge Rider maybe? The fin setup differs from the view on the box here-

http://www.rc-network.de/forum/showthread.php/524189-Solent-Sailplanes-Ridge-Rider-Unterlagen-gesucht-oder-Bauerfahrungen (http://www.rc-network.de/forum/showthread.php/524189-Solent-Sailplanes-Ridge-Rider-Unterlagen-gesucht-oder-Bauerfahrungen)

....but not sure if there was a wood fuz version..... any thoughts Eric F?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: EricF on September 30, 2018, 19:40:49 PM
Can't offer any more information on the Ridge Rider, but the purple and white model is a Thunder Tiger 'eHawk 1400'.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Jiggz on September 30, 2018, 19:56:44 PM
Thanks for the input chaps .
Looks like I have some research to do
Looking through lots of vintage plans there's a designer by the name of John clarke . The various models have a similar physique .. tailplane is all moving ..

The e.hawk needs a dab of ca and a tiny bit of tape and she's ready to go .. on exploring I found she has an orange rx and a lipo tucked inside ..
Not bad considering I gave a little over £20 for the pair
I would really like to get the woody flying
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: grj on October 01, 2018, 08:58:50 AM
I think you'll find the blue and red one may be a Mini Racer.

See here ihttps://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sailplanes-International-Mini-Racer-GRP-Fuselage-canopy-and-wing-fairing-/183321891097

Graham
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: grj on October 01, 2018, 09:01:21 AM
I think you'll find the blue and red one may be a Mini Racer.

See here ihttps://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sailplanes-International-Mini-Racer-GRP-Fuselage-canopy-and-wing-fairing-/183321891097

Graham
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Jiggz on October 01, 2018, 17:04:24 PM
Thanks for the suggestion grj
The mini racer is a little to small ..

The closest I have found with wingspan. wing seat and tailplane position is an aeronautics askant ..
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Jiggz on October 03, 2018, 16:34:02 PM
I think you'll find the blue and red one may be a Mini Racer.

See here ihttps://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sailplanes-International-Mini-Racer-GRP-Fuselage-canopy-and-wing-fairing-/183321891097

Graham
After some more research graham I did find that the mini racer has a 60 span.. the info I looked at before said the racer was 995mm
It's the wood fuzz that's throwing me off most similar models have grp fuzz

My hanger grew a little more today when I picked up a new in box JP 2m albatross .. so I will have a few maidens on my next thurnham visit
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Jiggz on October 06, 2018, 10:59:57 AM
I spent a little time last night sorting out the few minor repairs on the e.hawk and fitted a new prop and spinner ..all bound and ready for maiden

Also started my albatross build .
I had to make a new servo tray to fit the smaller 9g metal gear servos .. all she needs now i's a brushed esc.

Could someone help me with recommendations on bond for carbon fibre . I need to bond the elv servo inside my siren''s fin
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: paul w on October 06, 2018, 12:49:05 PM
It may sound a bit agricultural Jeff, but wrap the servo tightly in masking tape and then
glue it in with 5 min epoxy. Roughen up the area of carbon with sand paper first to form
a good key. Looks like you're building up a fleet that will have all weather conditions covered!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Jiggz on October 06, 2018, 14:38:52 PM
Thanks Paul .. I used the tape on my Victor servos as to make replacing easier .. was just worried about what bond would bite onto CF .
The hill has become a bit of an addiction for me ..
I'm hoping to get to thurnham wed Thurs and Fri if the wind stays southerly as noted on XC ..
Picked up a few other models today
I had the chance to collect a Taylor craft auster and a miles speed six from a work colegue
And stopped by the model shop and picked up a heavily reduced 1500 MOA
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Jiggz on October 08, 2018, 20:07:49 PM
Hi all
I managed to get to Thurnham this evening but to my suprise I was alone . Paragliders told me I had missed everyone by about 15mins .
Had a real busy day at work and finished in Headcorn . I drove home past the slope and double backed with a few models
I flew my fms moa for the first time on the slope and it is great .. very gentle and graceful
Had flight 2 with my Victor and it feels really smooth had a fright on landing when I poped the spoilers and the nose went vertical ..needs some down elev mix got her down on the second attempt albeit a little fast . I finished my hour with a quick alpha jet chuck glider flight ..
Felt very theroputic
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Jiggz on October 11, 2018, 09:23:34 AM
I'm all set for thurnham today ..cars loaded and hoping xc is right about the 29mph southerly ..

And hopefully the ladybirds keep at bay .. got attacked by thousands of them at holly hill yesterday
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Jiggz on October 11, 2018, 20:57:18 PM
My morning at thurnham didn't go as planned ..
The wind was south easterly and blowing left to right across the slope .. I arrived at about 11:30 and chatted with a guy with a a Bird of time. For about an hour .
The wind was blowing hard and I had to pin everything down ..
I attempted a flight with my lightning and the hand launch was twitchy .. she made it over the fence line and instantly dropped.a wing an spiralled down ..I couldn't recover .. on appoaching the fence I was sure I would see a wreck.. she was nesstled in a big bush .. no damage . I was lucky ..
I left about 2pm and returned around 4:30 to find the wind had swung around to a more southerly direction .. I had a few flights with a chap who was flying a multiplex blizzard and we flew Into near dark
I flew.my e-hawk for the second time and found she is a joy to fly .. very nimble and I could keep her in the lift as she went up and up..
Such a difference experience from yesterday's maiden .
I tried a flight with the Moa but it proved to be a handful
All in all a satisfying evening .. love the e-hawk and the sunset was great
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: paul w on October 12, 2018, 07:16:23 AM
Good to hear you managed to salvage something from the day Jeff.

If it's southerly or south easterly the best options for Thurnham are to either fly
up and over to the east of the castle, or to walk round to the south east facing
part of the bowl that is to the west of where we normally fly from..... best of
just relocating to Holly though!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Jiggz on October 12, 2018, 19:31:33 PM
Cheers paul ..

I poped to thurnham again this afternoon after being stuck on the m20 for an hour and half ..
Had a great flight with my lightning and could easily do rolls loops and fast passes .. about the best ever slope flight i have had .. sent her downwind to land and let her go to far back ..i turned over the bushes at the rear of the flat and tip stalled her strait into the thickist meanest brambles .. i currently look like freddie crugar has attacked me ..Connor managed to recover the lightning with rash and a small dink in the right leading edge ..flew her strait away again ..and all was good with the second landing
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: swarrans on October 12, 2018, 21:56:25 PM
I'm pretty amazed that you can even fly in a southerly at Thurnham Jeff - you really needed to be with us at Wrotham (Invicta Model Flyers private slope).  We'll be there again tomorrow from 10 key and if you want to join for the rest of the year it's only a tenner.

Simon
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: EricF on October 13, 2018, 08:24:01 AM
I'll be there by 10 - looks to be a great day for my Phase 6 Pro!  :)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Jiggz on October 14, 2018, 02:28:28 AM
Well sat afternoon was great .. it may have been work as usual to all you pro pilots but for me it was another new experience .. new slope and I had the most satisfying slope flight yet with my Victor ..
Thanks all for a great day ..and thank you Simon for the kind club invite ..made my weekend!
Oh' and cheers 'Eric F' for the inverted phase 6 entertainment..
After messing with the Victor setup she is starting to feel comfortable and I felt a lot more confident toward the late afternoon ..

Its inspired me to get stuck into my Siren build ..
So here I am at 2:30am having forced myself to put the model down
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: EricF on October 14, 2018, 12:10:29 PM
Siren is looking good Jeff.

Yes, the inverted moment was when I was doing an inverted pass across the slope and the Phase 6 was blown back in the 25mph winds. It was bit embarrassing but I managed to recover safely into an upright position and carry on flying! :embarassed:

I think you said you had captured the moment on video, (I had hoped that no one had spotted it), so feel free to post it if you wish so we can all enjoy my hairy escapade!  ::)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: mick a on October 14, 2018, 19:33:29 PM
never saw that at all eric
once again thanks for the help on the maiden of the discus , was great to watch
will convert the brakes to throttle stick , before next flight
mick
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: EricF on October 14, 2018, 22:56:05 PM
I'm pleased you didn't Mick!

Yes, the Discus will be so much easier to land with the brakes on a proportional function.
With those very effective brakes on a switch, it certainly made it difficult to set up a decent approach.
Having the brakes on the throttle stick, you will find it much like landing a power mode,l which you are used to doing.
Have a great next flight.
Eric
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: paul w on October 15, 2018, 09:14:39 AM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-45849257 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-45849257)

Apparently a Duo-Discus flying from Parham got caught out by the sea temperature vs very warm air conditions
killing the slope lift on the cliffs.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: GP on October 15, 2018, 15:17:33 PM
When I was at Bopeep recently, I was amazed how low some of the full size gliders were flying. They must have been very confident that the big lift conditions would get them up again. While driving down, I saw one fly quite low over the A23, heading towards Devil's Dyke, but well below the altitude of the spot where we launch our gliders at the Dyke. Maybe they were landing out, or maybe the efficiency of those gliders is so great they could ride the lift up and over the Dyke.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Jiggz on October 15, 2018, 23:15:45 PM
Siren is looking good Jeff.

Yes, the inverted moment was when I was doing an inverted pass across the slope and the Phase 6 was blown back in the 25mph winds. It was bit embarrassing but I managed to recover safely into an upright position and carry on flying! :embarassed:

I think you said you had captured the moment on video, (I had hoped that no one had spotted it), so feel free to post it if you wish so we can all enjoy my hairy escapade!  ::)

I just got chance to put the footage I got together ..
Eric your phase 6 footage is amongst this at around 4:50
I think the save on one of the aproaches deserves a look by everyone ..how dId you have that on a knife edge a foot off the ground and save it!! .. good show
Couldn't get much of charlie's sunbird wing as it was just to quick

Grab a tea or coffee as this will cost you 15 mins of your time .. enjoy
https://youtu.be/3PXlecxO5d0

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: mick a on October 16, 2018, 14:46:18 PM
just to pick your brain gents
when i put the air brakes on the throttle stick , should i have the brakes coming up from 1/2 throttle or from the stick all the way to the top , hope this makes sense
thanks
mick
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: swarrans on October 17, 2018, 07:31:55 AM
Personally I use the whole stick movement Mick.  I think you very quickly get used to holding the stick up when you don't want the brakes deployed - although as a power flyer you may not find that so natural and so adding a disabling digital switch may work for you.

Simon
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Bob Ryan on October 17, 2018, 13:24:30 PM
Personally I set up the Break or Butterfly with about 20% lost motion at the top of the stick movement. This insurers that I donít inadvertently add a little bit of break during normal flight. The movement is fully proportional after the lost motion, so I can adjust the input on approach. It works for me.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: GP on October 17, 2018, 17:25:48 PM
I think some of the German guys are flying the south downs this week? Looks quite good for Bopeep tomorrow.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: paul w on October 17, 2018, 18:36:35 PM
I think some of the German guys are flying the south downs this week? Looks quite good for Bopeep tomorrow.

Yes and yes..... see you there Gary?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: GP on October 18, 2018, 18:38:20 PM
I can't get away from work unfortunately, bah! Hope you have a good session.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: swarrans on October 19, 2018, 07:26:34 AM
It was great Gary - I successfully maidened my DG800 and there was a good crowd including some visiting German flyers.  Only fly in the ointment was that Mark had battery failure on his Swift and it sustained quite a bit of damage

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: swarrans on October 21, 2018, 21:17:56 PM
Paul has produced one of his superb videos for the maiden of my DG800 - available on YouTube and via he UK Scale Soaring forum...

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Bob Ryan on October 21, 2018, 21:56:46 PM
Superb model and video. Congratulations.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: GP on October 21, 2018, 22:23:26 PM
Great vid! And very spirited flying for a maiden, more than I would dare to do with a new large plane on its first day!


Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Jiggz on October 22, 2018, 00:04:44 AM
Hi all .
Hope everyone had a cracking weekend ..
I did
I went to thurnham on sat for an hour in minimal wind
I took my minimoa and my e-hawk ..lift in the 3mph was minimal but I watched the big birds of pray circling in a glide and joined then having fairly good flights on what I presume were thermals.

Today i met a pal I haven't flown with in about 6months and we had a good crack with some warbirds and high wing models
I bought a modified st models cub with tundra wheels and slats which turned out to be good fun
And also got a new zagi 'jp si' to build
Whilst we were flying this afternoon we had a jet ranger land ..turned out to be a neighbour
Should be going for.a flight in it next week ..do I really want to ?? .. choppers dont glide! Lol
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: paul w on October 22, 2018, 16:09:18 PM
do I really want to ?? .. choppers dont glide! Lol

Make sure and get some footage Jeff..... it's ok they do kind of glide, look up 'autorotation'.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: mick a on November 01, 2018, 16:59:23 PM
is anyone gong to wrotham on sat or sun , wind looks good
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: EricF on November 01, 2018, 21:21:57 PM
Looking good for both days so I'll be there!  :af
I expect that I'll be there about 10am Saturday morning.
Cheers, Eric
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: swarrans on November 01, 2018, 21:23:50 PM
Oooh yes (Churchill Dog stylee....)

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: mick a on November 03, 2018, 18:09:06 PM
nice to see all down at wrotham today, even though couldnít get the discus up
got home and checked and the connector had twisted wires together - a nice big moulded mess !
so new servos wires , just to be safe
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Jiggz on November 04, 2018, 23:28:19 PM
Hi all
Sorry I couldn't join the flying on sat it was my sat on at work.. hoped to get there early afternoon but ended up with 8 jobs and 200miles to cover .
I popped to Wrotham about 4pm and had a couple flights under beautiful orange clouds as the sun set

I'm confident that the next visit will be with my siren .
I have ironed out most of the little issues and she's now running a comfortable power setup ..
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Jiggz on November 14, 2018, 12:16:01 PM
Hi all
I have removed all the original radio gear from my nostalgia glider and re.fitted it out with 2.4 and futaba servos ..

I'm not sure weather the classic servos and rx are of any use to one of u chaps ..

I don't want anything for the setup just wondering if i can give to a good home
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: EricF on November 17, 2018, 14:07:53 PM
Jeff,
Could be a useful addition for my vintage radio collection.
PM sent a couple of days ago.
Cheers
Eric
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Jiggz on November 19, 2018, 18:22:34 PM
Jeff,
Could be a useful addition for my vintage radio collection.
PM sent a couple of days ago.
Cheers
Eric

Hi Eric .. just checked your pm ..there yours!
I will bring them on the next good wind .

After hunting and hunting ..a member on rcg managed to recognise the model ..

It's a PHOENIX MODELS CARRERA
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: EricF on November 21, 2018, 21:51:53 PM
Thanks Jeff.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Jiggz on November 26, 2018, 21:55:27 PM
Hi all .. with the recent thick fog and  wind being to strong to fly warbirds and in the wrong direction for me to soar ..I put a random video of 2018 together .. turn up and enjoy

https://youtu.be/Ni4f6iX1Z1Y
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: EricF on November 30, 2018, 09:00:21 AM
Anyone else going to Thurnham today?
It's looking good with a 12mph south westerly!  :) :) :
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: EricF on November 30, 2018, 09:17:12 AM
HobbyKing Orders

I'm just about to place an order with HobbyKing and I don't need many more items to get FREE delivery.
So if anyone local to Thurnham wants anything from HK without a delivery charge, let me know and I'll add the items to my order.

I've just spotted that the small folding seats that we use on the slope are now down to £7.85 - Bargain!!
https://hobbyking.com/en_us/multistar-folding-chair.html

Cheers, Eric
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Jiggz on November 30, 2018, 18:58:43 PM
I'm hoping to get to thurnham tomorrow afternoon to maiden my historic carrera .. was going to maiden my siren bit I am holding on for a carbon receiver to be safe ..
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: paul w on November 30, 2018, 19:20:49 PM
I'm hoping to get to thurnham tomorrow afternoon to maiden my historic carrera .. was going to maiden my siren bit I am holding on for a carbon receiver to be safe ..

Good luck Jeff, hope the rain holds off for you.... let us know how it goes  :xx
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Nicholls on November 30, 2018, 19:23:31 PM
HobbyKing Orders

I'm just about to place an order with HobbyKing and I don't need many more items to get FREE delivery.
So if anyone local to Thurnham wants anything from HK without a delivery charge, let me know and I'll add the items to my order.

I've just spotted that the small folding seats that we use on the slope are now down to £7.85 - Bargain!!
https://hobbyking.com/en_us/multistar-folding-chair.html

Cheers, Eric



Eric please buy 2 for me. I'll arrange to collect from Thurnham but will pay you now or whenever if you email/pm me your account details.

PS I'm hoping my best spotter/timer for International Competitions will be available for some if not all of 22nd to 23rd June at Hamilton Farm Ashford
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: EricF on December 01, 2018, 09:53:01 AM
Very sorry Ian, but I put the order in just 30 minutes before you posted your request to me. However the price is still £7.85, so even with p&p, it's still cheaper than the previous full price and if you convince Rob to have one that would help as well.

Yes, if I'm free and fit I'll come along and spot/time for you next June. I'll do my best spotting for you and again I'll leave it to you whether or not you take my 'expert' advice!  ;D ;D ;D
Definition of an expert - An 'ex' is a has-been, and a 'spurt' is a drip under pressure!

All the best to You and Sheila.

Eric

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: EricF on December 01, 2018, 15:12:47 PM
Yesterday - Good/bad/good/bad/goodies/bad/goodish -  :banghead:

The Good - I looked at the forecast yesterday morning and also out of the window and thought "It's going to be a great flying day today!" and posted a note on here. So while I did a couple of jobs for SWSBO, I charged up my venerable oldies, the Phase 6 and Mark 1 Algebra.

The Bad - On arriving at the slope I went to put the Phase 6 together and found that I still had the remains of a broken nylon wing bolt, kindly donated to me by Eric P, stuck in the fuselage and it just wouldn't budge and I had also forgotten to bring along some spare bolts! So on to Plan B - I assembled the Algebra and found that the starboard aileron servo had failed, well it is a 30 year old Fleet servo! In disgust I hurriedly put the wings back in the 'overhead storage facility'(OSF), i.e. two pieces of rope strung between the grab handles, picked up my field bag with just lunch, coffee and folding chair in it and headed over to where the assembled throng of slopers were.

The Good - On arriving at the 'pits' area, I greeted everyone, set up my chair, poured out a coffee and proceeded to get updated with all the latest gossip and views on world events. Bob regailed us with happenings on the Caribbean adventure that he has recently returned from, women fighting getting thrown off the ship, lechery resulting in bridal parties getting thrown off the ship and a dead body getting thrown off the ship moored opposite. Will Bob go on a cruise again, I think he's a bit undecided! Anyway a good catch up and natter, but not that much flying, was the order of the day which ended when the temperature started to drop around 3pm.

The Bad - After driving back from the slope I pulled up outside my house, opened the rear tailgate, there was a great cracking sound and I was greeted with the sight of one of my Algebra wings bent at 45 degrees from halfway along its length. It appeared that in my haste to stow the wings in the OSF, I hadn't put them in the wing bags which had allowed the wings to slide back towards the tailgate when I did a racing start in my MPV. One wingtip somehow got caught on a lip on the tailgate with the inevitable result when I opened it. However an injection of glue and the installation of a couple of ply vertical webs should make it nearly as good as old! Old gliders don't die, they just get repaired lots of times.

The Goodies - When I got back into my study/junk/modelling room I spent the next hour or so ordering chairs and other sundry items for the Thurnham Massive from that model shop in the Cloud called HobbyKing - not sure how long it will take to get our bits and pieces as an order that I placed last weekend is still shown as 'processing'.

A late Bad addition - Unfortunately Ian, aka Nicholls on the forum, missed my HobbyKing FREE DELIVERY offer as his request to me to order a couple of chairs for him came in 30 minutes after I had sent the order - sorry Ian!

Goodish - Tomorrow looks flyable in the afternoon, but SWSBO has some more jobs lined up for me, but I will keep a model ready to go just in case a window of opportunity occurs.  :xx

Eric

PS - I hope this has kept you entertained for a while on this wet afternoon.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Nicholls on December 01, 2018, 15:26:53 PM
Thanks for all that you mentioned in the last couple of posts!
An aileron on a Mark 1 Algebra? Surely you must have added those. I have a set of the swept back wings sans ailerons ply box fuselage tailplane and rudder following an incident some 35 years ago!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: swarrans on December 01, 2018, 20:54:04 PM
Having flown Eric's modified Algebra Ian I can confirm that the ailerons (added) have almost no effect to its rolling capability!

Simon
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Jiggz on December 01, 2018, 22:38:34 PM
Thanks for the read Eric ..taday was one of those days I kept twitching the cutrain every 10mins to see if the horrid drizzle had stopped .. I thought it had at one point and hurried to the hanger and ..it started again .

I'm set on maidening my carrera this weekend ..weather is looking better for tomorrow ..
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: EricF on December 01, 2018, 22:48:59 PM
Ian, This is the Algebra that I bought from Simon Ward about 20 years ago complete with Fleet servos and many repairs to the wing. Looking closely it seems that the wing is actually the 3 metre version cut down.

Like our Si, Simon Ward is very good with epoxy and glass cloth, (that was his job when he moved to the Netherlands at about the same time), and as the bottom of the wing is intact, all I need to do is bend the wing at the break, squirt some glue in, clamp it flat for a couple of days and then add a couple of vertical webs across the break. Thinks, I bought an Ozito Multi-Tool last weekend to do some jobs around the house and 15,000 rpm oscillating saw blade will be just the tool to use to cut the slots. While I'm about it I think I'll double the size of the ailerons, change the servos and then give it to Simon to test its rolling capabilities. I tried to roll it a couple of times and gave up, it flies so much better just using rudder. In fact it's a handy trainer for me to simulate flying my 7 metre ASH 25 as that is never going to roll and it needs to be controlled using rudder as the primary turn control on the left stick, al la Mode 4.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: EricF on December 01, 2018, 22:52:17 PM
I'm set on maidening my carrera this weekend ..weather is looking better for tomorrow ..
Best of luck with the maiden Jeff.
I may be able to get up the slope depending on my rate of progress indoors.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: EricF on December 07, 2018, 13:01:40 PM
Thanks for all that you mentioned in the last couple of posts!
An aileron on a Mark 1 Algebra? Surely you must have added those. I have a set of the swept back wings sans ailerons ply box fuselage tailplane and rudder following an incident some 35 years ago!
Ian,
I have a Mark One Algrebra ply box fuselage up in my 'model store in the sky'.
From what I can recall, it's three quarters built and it just needs the top and bottom ply pieces glueing on.
It's yours if you want it . . . and if I can find it!  ;D ;D ;D
Cheers,
Eric
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Nicholls on December 07, 2018, 13:43:42 PM
Thanks Eric, may I suggest you don't look for it at present until I confirm I've finished build/rebuild of my ASW 17, HP14, Royalist, Phase 4, Centiphase, and Hi Phase!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: EricF on December 12, 2018, 19:21:41 PM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D - Fully understood, Ian! -  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I've also got an ASW17 and a Hi-Phase, both in need of repair!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: ofej on December 23, 2018, 19:26:52 PM
Happy Christmas everyone!

As we have just passed the shortest day, I realise the last time I flew was the other end of the solstice spectrum.

Is anyone planning on flying on New Year's Day?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: paul w on December 24, 2018, 17:48:18 PM
Happy Christmas everyone!

As we have just passed the shortest day, I realise the last time I flew was the other end of the solstice spectrum.

Is anyone planning on flying on New Year's Day?

Watch this space Jef....
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: swarrans on December 26, 2018, 14:27:52 PM
Gave myself a little Christmas present...
I know modern glass gliders tend to all look the same, but this is a bit of historic Aristocracy - a 1/3rd scale ASH26 made by Schueler.  About 20 years old but superb quality, fully moulded.  She's yellowed a bit but I call that patina! (I may re-spray her one day).  Came with an excellent Axel pilot.


[attachimg=1]

Each wing is nearly 3m long and amazingly they fit in my little BMW i3 (which I'll be calling the Tardis from now on!)

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: GP on December 26, 2018, 22:40:03 PM
ooooh
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Leebert on December 27, 2018, 08:37:08 AM
Hi all. 

I hope everyone has had a great Christmas and is loving the turkey sandwiches 😀

I am looking to make what is seeming to be my annual pilgrimage to Thurnham at some point soon.  Time to dust off the Wildy and see if the batteries & electronics still work!  Looking at the forecast, possibly this Saturday maybe???

Cheers,
Lee
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: mick a on December 27, 2018, 12:22:44 PM
hi simon
looks like a classic , canít wait to see it at thurman
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: paul w on December 27, 2018, 19:52:01 PM
Looking at the forecast, possibly this Saturday maybe???

Cheers,
Lee

Having been struck down with man flu since xmas eve, I'm hoping to be fit enough to get out
to play on Saturday too Lee!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: swarrans on December 27, 2018, 22:25:18 PM
I'm hoping for a maiden on Saturday (but then aren't we all?!)

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Jiggz on December 27, 2018, 22:28:32 PM
Hopefully if the weather is what xc says then I will be at turnham at some point .. got lots of zagi spares ready for Charlies Christmas combat ..
Will.try and drag Dan along on Saturday

If anyone is interested in a new sunbird tucan or typhoon airframe
Contact Dan .. I have reserved a sunbird awaiting collection . It's a long drive so anyone that's interested we can collect all in one journey

200 sunbird
320 toucan / typhoon
Or any rcrcm bird in jan
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Leebert on December 28, 2018, 08:46:50 AM
Having been struck down with man flu since xmas eve, I'm hoping to be fit enough to get out
to play on Saturday too Lee!

Iím sure a day on the hill will get shot of even the strongest man flu!  Look forward to seeing you there.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Leebert on December 28, 2018, 10:33:45 AM
I hope it's okay to post this here but I have a few gliders that don't get flown as much as they should so I have decided to sell them onto someone that hopefully will.

Wildthing 50". Probably could do with a re-tape but flies fine as it is. SOLD;

Alula with fabulous bird design. 2s lipo and regulator. SOLD;

Hobby King Mini Swift with two 2s lipos, new spare fus and new wings. SOLD;

Multiplex Easy Glider Pro and power set with new spare wings, two main spars (one with ballast rod),  two 3s lipos and I believe all the parts to convert it back to a pure glider if so desired. £75;

And finally, Tragi 704V 3m mouldie with ballast/wooden spacers and a spare V tail. 2s lipo and regulator.  SOLD.

All come with Futaba or Futaba compatible receivers.

If anyone is interested, I'll bring them with me to Thurnham tomorrow.

[edited to show what sold 30/12/18]
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Weds on December 28, 2018, 10:56:43 AM
It looks like the winds will be favourable for Charlieís Christmas combat tomorrow (Saturday) at Thurnham from 10.30 onwards... get your foamies charged up and see you all there..
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: fpljohn on December 28, 2018, 12:01:18 PM
It looks like the winds will be favourable for Charlieís Christmas combat tomorrow (Saturday) at Thurnham from 10.30 onwards... get your foamies charged up and see you all there..
Excellent news
I will charge up the Zagi then, hopefully drag uncle Pete along as well
JP
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Nicholls on December 28, 2018, 12:22:04 PM
I would like  to buy the Alula and would be grateful if Eric could collect for me please if he is going up to Thurham? I'd transfer money or pay by Paypal  Thanks Ian   
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Jiggz on December 28, 2018, 13:12:10 PM
LeeBert. . I will take the wild thing if it's still available..
Cheers jeff
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: paul w on December 28, 2018, 13:53:00 PM
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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Leebert on December 28, 2018, 15:20:18 PM
I would like  to buy the Alula and would be grateful if Eric could collect for me please if he is going up to Thurham? I'd transfer money or pay by Paypal  Thanks Ian
Thanks Ian. Iíll send you a PM later this afternoon with my PayPal email etc. No problem going through Eric.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Leebert on December 28, 2018, 15:23:53 PM
LeeBert. . I will take the wild thing if it's still available..
Cheers jeff
Thanks Jeff. It doesnít say in my post but for clarity the Wildy doesnít come with a battery. It does come with a receiver and servos though. Please let me know if youíre still want it.
Thanks
Lee
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Jiggz on December 28, 2018, 20:11:39 PM
Thanks Jeff. It doesnít say in my post but for clarity the Wildy doesnít come with a battery. It does come with a receiver and servos though. Please let me know if youíre still want it.
Thanks
Lee
That's fine Lee .. hopefully see u at thurnham tomorow

I picked up a carbon fibre receiver for my siren last week but haven't had the chance to drill the fuzz for the ant ..that's all that's keeping her on the ground

I am in the process of patching up my zagi scars from the last outing ..

On another note I picked up a couple new models yesterday .. new eflite pitts special and dh dragon rapide
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: swarrans on December 28, 2018, 21:16:52 PM
Blimey those are stunning deals Lee!
Look forward to seeing you tomorrow.  I'd bring them all with you tomorrow if you can because if people don't buy them they are a bit daft!!...

Simon
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Leebert on December 29, 2018, 08:16:43 AM
Blimey those are stunning deals Lee!
Look forward to seeing you tomorrow.  I'd bring them all with you tomorrow if you can because if people don't buy them they are a bit daft!!...

Simon
Hi Simon

Iím looking forward to it too 😊

Iíll bring everything with me in case anyone wants to take a look.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Jiggz on December 29, 2018, 08:23:13 AM
I'm just off out to maiden my pitts. .then will be heading for castle hill
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: mick a on December 29, 2018, 09:20:11 AM
is this the next scale glider  at thurnham [attachimg=1]
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: fpljohn on December 29, 2018, 15:27:17 PM
[attach=1]
Thurnham today
Thanks to you all, great morning foam bashing
JP
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: swarrans on December 29, 2018, 15:41:39 PM
(Attachment Link)
Thurnham today
Thanks to you all, great morning foam bashing
JP

Twenty in the air at one time!  Unfortunately a viscous attack from Pete broke off one of my linkages (never found it!) so that curtailed my foam bashing fun but it was a great day anyway - and and two new members for Invicta Model Flyers!

Simon
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: swarrans on December 29, 2018, 17:41:35 PM
is this the next scale glider  at thurnham (Attachment Link)
Funny how the full size ones look rougher than our models!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Jiggz on December 29, 2018, 18:37:40 PM
Thanks all for bringing there foam and making this an experience ..the most models I have flown amongst .

Unfortunately my footage corrupted when my cam died
However that mass launch is something to be remembered ..
Limbo was good fun .. I managed about 8 unders whilst I noticed there was some real cracking pilots getting under most time and some inverted ..

Hats off to Paul and the launchers for putting themselves well in the firing line ..

Thanks Lee for the great deal today ..I'm made up
704 or 705?? Can't remeber what u said the model was

I enjoyed the remainder of the afternoon floating about with my little e-hawk .. even managed a catch landing

My perspective of john's pic


 
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Leebert on December 29, 2018, 19:00:50 PM
(Attachment Link)
Thurnham today
Thanks to you all, great morning foam bashing
JP
Cracking photo of a cracking day. Great to meet old and new friends. I promise to make the trip more often in 2019.
I hope you all have a great New Year and all the very best for 2019.
Cheers
Leebert
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Leebert on December 29, 2018, 20:05:36 PM
Thanks all for bringing there foam and making this an experience ..the most models I have flown amongst .

Unfortunately my footage corrupted when my cam died
However that mass launch is something to be remembered ..
Limbo was good fun .. I managed about 8 unders whilst I noticed there was some real cracking pilots getting under most time and some inverted ..

Hats off to Paul and the launchers for putting themselves well in the firing line ..

Thanks Lee for the great deal today ..I'm made up
704 or 705?? Can't remeber what u said the model was

I enjoyed the remainder of the afternoon floating about with my little e-hawk .. even managed a catch landing

My perspective of john's pic
Great photo and Great to pass the Tragi 704V onto someone who will make good use of it 😊
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: JohnP on December 29, 2018, 21:07:47 PM
Time to dust off the Wildy and see if the batteries & electronics still work!  Looking at the forecast, possibly this Saturday maybe???

Is that the same Wildthing that you gave me a flight of as my slope debut before I maidened my own slope soarer a few minutes later at Thurnham back in... heck, was it 2009 or 2010?  Or have you got a new one since then?  ;D

Good to see you back in action - maybe see you on Colley Hill one day next year?

OK- prompted by my uncertainty over the date of my first slope flights,  I've just "reviewed the tapes" and reckon it was probably early 2010.  As a confirmed power flyer, I had never actually set foot on Colley Hill - about 10 minutes drive away - until the day I arranged to meet Lee and Gary there one breezy Sunday in November 2009.  Here is the video I shot on the day - look out for Lee's 'skillful' touch-and-go straight off the launch at around 2:55.  He'll try and tell you it was deliberate...  ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_zX_hiMNcg

It was that morning that made me realise there was clearly more to slope soaring than I'd imagined, hence my slope debut some weeks later at Thurnham, and occasional trips to Colley, Ditchling Beacon, Devils Dyke etc. etc. since then.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Jiggz on December 29, 2018, 23:34:50 PM
Well I'm posting this late because kids have just gone to bed and I have had the excitement of checking out the Tragi. .

Over the moon .. "you are a gem lee!"

Good thing the Missus is on a night shift else I think she might 'notice' .. lol

Lookin fwd to progressing on to this soarer

@Swarrens .. I have done some searching and found my 'dinosaur' dx6i's can be programmed for flaps/brakes on the throttle stick .. using mix switch to go from flaps to brake's with the throttle stick fully proportional.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Jiggz on December 30, 2018, 00:28:40 AM
I put my 2018 random video together a few weeks back

If u have 5 ..check it out
https://youtu.be/Ni4f6iX1Z1Y
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: swarrans on December 30, 2018, 07:28:34 AM

@Swarrans .. I have done some searching and found my 'dinosaur' dx6i's can be programmed for flaps/brakes on the throttle stick .. using mix switch to go from flaps to brake's with the throttle stick fully proportional.

That's great Jeff - programme it that way and then we can go for a maiden.  The generally accepted protocol is for the flaps to be retracted in the "full throttle" position and fully deployed when the throttle stick is down.

Simon
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Leebert on December 30, 2018, 09:40:59 AM
Is that the same Wildthing that you gave me a flight of as my slope debut before I maidened my own slope soarer a few minutes later at Thurnham back in... heck, was it 2009 or 2010?  Or have you got a new one since then?  ;D

Good to see you back in action - maybe see you on Colley Hill one day next year?

OK- prompted by my uncertainty over the date of my first slope flights,  I've just "reviewed the tapes" and reckon it was probably early 2010.  As a confirmed power flyer, I had never actually set foot on Colley Hill - about 10 minutes drive away - until the day I arranged to meet Lee and Gary there one breezy Sunday in November 2009.  Here is the video I shot on the day - look out for Lee's 'skillful' touch-and-go straight off the launch at around 2:55.  He'll try and tell you it was deliberate...  ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_zX_hiMNcg

It was that morning that made me realise there was clearly more to slope soaring than I'd imagined, hence my slope debut some weeks later at Thurnham, and occasional trips to Colley, Ditchling Beacon, Devils Dyke etc. etc. since then.

Hi John,
 Itís had a re-cover and the odd clevis and control horn replaced but it is the same one. I canít believe itís getting on for ten years since you made that video. One thing I do clearly remember is how drenched we all got!
I fully intend to do some more flying this year so hopefully see you at Colley Hill when there is a decent southerly.
Cheers
Lee
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: swarrans on December 30, 2018, 21:24:07 PM
I fully intend to do some more flying this year so hopefully see you at Colley Hill when there is a decent southerly.
Cheers
Lee


Forget College Hill come and join us at our private slope at Wrotham - superb landing area and a refined crowd (well, most of us!).  See http://IMF.bmfa.org (http://IMF.bmfa.org) for details!

Simon
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Leebert on December 31, 2018, 07:13:06 AM
Forget College Hill come and join us at our private slope at Wrotham - superb landing area and a refined crowd (well, most of us!).  See [url]http://IMF.bmfa.org[/url] ([url]http://IMF.bmfa.org[/url]) for details!

Simon


Thanks Simon. Iíll look into that as Colley Hill can be a tricky place to land a mouldie gently! I have already renewed my BMFA for 2019 so itís very inexpensive as clubs go. Whatís the parking like at the slope location? My car doesnít have much ground clearance.
Thanks.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: swarrans on December 31, 2018, 10:30:56 AM
Great parking Lee!  The road and the layby where we park has just been resurfaced so your Bugatti Veyron would have no problems!  The parking is a bit limited but as it's a private club the numbers tend to be very low anyway - certainly not even close to Thurman - I think the most we've had at Wrotham is probably 8 flyers?!...

Simon
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: EricF on December 31, 2018, 11:36:44 AM
Thanks Ian. Iíll send you a PM later this afternoon with my PayPal email etc. No problem going through Eric.
Hi Lee,

Good to see you again on Saturday.  What an excellent turnout, I couldn't quite make it in for the start of the bouts, as I was only halfway up the A3 at 10:30am. Luckily there weren't any drones over Southampton Water to delay the Queen Elizabeth's docking! ;-)

I've just been in touch with Ian and thanked him for the unexpected Alula Christmas present that he bought from you for me as a thanks for me helping him at the Interglide meeting at Ashford last summer.  ;D ;D ;D  However, I said that as I already have an Alula, that he could have it to enjoy!

He won't be in on the day that I planned to deliver it, so I'll leave it at my sister's house which is a couple of miles from his and so it will get to him eventually!!

See you next year.

Best wishes

Eric
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Leebert on December 31, 2018, 17:49:41 PM
Hi Lee,

Good to see you again on Saturday.  What an excellent turnout, I couldn't quite make it in for the start of the bouts, as I was only halfway up the A3 at 10:30am. Luckily there weren't any drones over Southampton Water to delay the Queen Elizabeth's docking! ;-)

I've just been in touch with Ian and thanked him for the unexpected Alula Christmas present that he bought from you for me as a thanks for me helping him at the Interglide meeting at Ashford last summer.  ;D ;D ;D  However, I said that as I already have an Alula, that he could have it to enjoy!

He won't be in on the day that I planned to deliver it, so I'll leave it at my sister's house which is a couple of miles from his and so it will get to him eventually!!

See you next year.

Best wishes

Eric

Hi Eric
Great to see you too. Thank you for delivering the Alula on my behalf. Much appreciated 😊 It probably would have been at Christmas Combat 2019 otherwise!!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Jiggz on January 01, 2019, 00:39:46 AM
Happy new year all!!
Thanks to all who have guided me into the slope flying over 2018 ..

Happy landing for 2019
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: mick a on January 01, 2019, 10:55:40 AM
happy new year to all
just found these , think this is the new anti-drone thurnham crew
and maybe result [attach=1][attach=2]
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: EricF on January 08, 2019, 19:44:11 PM
Hi Eric
Great to see you too. Thank you for delivering the Alula on my behalf. Much appreciated 😊 It probably would have been at Christmas Combat 2019 otherwise!!
Hi Lee,
I've had a copy of the note that Ian sent to you to say that he had picked up the Alula from my sister's house and that he is getting it set up..

Ian,
You have a nice place to fly it nearby, i.e. off the promenade opposite the Zetland Arms pub at Kingsdown - it works well there.  : :)
The next time I'm down your way I'll bring my Alula and we can have a brace of them flying over the beach in a smooth easterly breeze.  :af
It would be much like that time a few years ago when we flew off the cliffs together near to Ramsgate Harbour.
Enjoy!!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: mick a on January 17, 2019, 18:36:44 PM
is anyone going to wrotham on saturday ?
 wind looks good at the moment
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Jiggz on January 17, 2019, 23:21:22 PM
I'm considering going to Wrothamon sat Mick

Might be a chance to maiden my siren
Will confirm Fri evening
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: mick a on January 18, 2019, 12:45:31 PM
is wrotham ok for se wind or does it have to be just south ?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: EricF on January 18, 2019, 17:38:43 PM
Unlikely that SE will be any good as the wind has to come over the woods to the left.
If it's south south east it will work, but not that well as it's still affected by the woods.
Cheers, Eric
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Jiggz on January 18, 2019, 19:24:35 PM
Thanks for the heads up with wrotham Eric ..
I will probably take the time tomorrow to set up the Tragi V ..

Dan has made it to Manchester and he is collecting his composite discuss
And he is also collecting my brand new yellow
rcrcm Sunbird .. I am aquiring birds faster then I can maiden them at the moment ..
I still have to slope maiden my 90s T.tail Albatross

Im looking fwd to seeing this new Sunbird!
 
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Jiggz on January 19, 2019, 16:43:47 PM
Hey all I got a chance to catch up with Dan this afternoon  to check out his 2.5 molded baudis discuss
Nice solid model ..
Also grabbed my new yellow sunbird ..
I'm pretty darn happy with the sunbird ..lovely piece of kit .. I can't wait to get building ..
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: paul w on February 06, 2019, 14:20:01 PM
https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/17405196.hang-glider-rescued-from-tree-at-chanctonbury-ring-video/?ref=mr&lp=2&fbclid=IwAR2r1IgHqao7oDmJKyx_nFwuVQ8gwkCiD4DEs1Vh_pWmavr3GiYrrhOfSi0 (https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/17405196.hang-glider-rescued-from-tree-at-chanctonbury-ring-video/?ref=mr&lp=2&fbclid=IwAR2r1IgHqao7oDmJKyx_nFwuVQ8gwkCiD4DEs1Vh_pWmavr3GiYrrhOfSi0)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Weds on February 06, 2019, 18:34:20 PM
https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/17405196.hang-glider-rescued-from-tree-at-chanctonbury-ring-video/?ref=mr&lp=2&fbclid=IwAR2r1IgHqao7oDmJKyx_nFwuVQ8gwkCiD4DEs1Vh_pWmavr3GiYrrhOfSi0 (https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/17405196.hang-glider-rescued-from-tree-at-chanctonbury-ring-video/?ref=mr&lp=2&fbclid=IwAR2r1IgHqao7oDmJKyx_nFwuVQ8gwkCiD4DEs1Vh_pWmavr3GiYrrhOfSi0)

They weren't hanging about when they snatched him out of the glider  :)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: GP on February 08, 2019, 17:49:49 PM
That is uncannily like what happens to our models. But I don't think they're going to be able to knock the glider out of the tree with a fishing pole.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Jiggz on February 08, 2019, 19:15:49 PM
Hi all ..is anyone planning a trip to Thurnham tomorrow ?? I want to maiden my GP Siren ..wondering whether someone can give me a chuck?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Bob Ryan on February 08, 2019, 19:20:24 PM
I took this picture yesterday of Charley sporting his new Cod Piece.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: EricF on February 08, 2019, 21:15:03 PM
Hi all ..is anyone planning a trip to Thurnham tomorrow ?? I want to maiden my GP Siren ..wondering whether someone can give me a chuck?
IMHO not the best of days for a maiden Jeff, 20+mph blow, although it's up to you.

I won't be flying outdoors this weekend, I'll be going to the indoor meeting at Gillingham on Sunday.
Come along and watch Charlie and Pete with their cracking indoor aerobatics. - details from Medway MFC below.
It's only a pound to spectate and it goes to a good cause!
PS - Charlie will be sporting his new cod-piece!


Medway MFC indoor flying on Sunday 10th February 2019
at Medway Park Leisure Center Gillingham Kent ME7 1HF

Meetings through to February are on the second Sunday of the Month and the last one for this winter will be on on March 17th the 3rd Sunday .
Diary Dates for following meetings are as follows.
Feb=10th
March=17th
Sessions run from 10 am to 3 pm
Costs £7.50 to fly for adults (children get a reduced rate). £1 spectators.
BMFA membership/ insurance required to fly. Please bring BMFA cert.

More details at: https://bmfa.org/Contests-Events/Contest-and-Event-Calendar

We will be having a raffle Tickets are £1 a strip of 5.

A small Free Bring and buy table will be available . No fees but if you sell any items then please make a donation to the Air Ambulance Box
ALL profits go to our clubs charity the Kent Surrey and Sussex Air Ambulance trust .
This year Medway MFC raised £2000 for the Air Ambulance Kent Surrey and Sussex .Please come along and support us raise funds for this worthy charity and also have fun doing it .

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Jiggz on February 08, 2019, 22:24:09 PM
Thanks Eric .. I will pop along and bring a few models
I am looking fwd to flying my old carrera in a good blow  so will fly that and see how u feel about maiden
..the sirens pretty heavy .. 1.5kg auw

I still have that old radio gear in my van waiting to see u
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: GP on February 09, 2019, 08:31:20 AM
What's our guess for conditions at Thurnham today, good lift or blown out?

(Forecast says 24mph WSW)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: EricF on February 09, 2019, 09:52:15 AM
Gary, It seems to be dropping off a bit as the TV weather people are suggesting it would.
I'll take a quick trip up there shortly and give you a call on your mobile and also post on here.

Also see - http://www.iossc.org.uk/weather/?sn=live-wind (http://www.iossc.org.uk/weather/?sn=live-wind)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: EricF on February 09, 2019, 11:11:32 AM
Thurnham slope report
25 mph + , sunny, 3 flyers here. Two will be staying til mid afternoon.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: GP on February 09, 2019, 22:01:45 PM
Thanks for the call Eric, I appreciate it.

I didn't manage to get there until 3pm, and I was the only one there by then. But wow the conditions were amazing. My lardy Prismaray shot up vertically as if it was at the South Downs. I don't think I've ever experienced such big lift at Thurnham. I estimated the wind was between SW and WSW and about 35mph. I checked XCWeather and that said Detling was currently 31mph. So Thurnham can obviously work really well if the wind is just below blown-out level and the direction is just right.

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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Jiggz on February 12, 2019, 21:39:10 PM
Gp . We missed you by an hour..
My sat at thurnham was pretty memorable for me! .. to most of u chaps it was just another strong breeze
I took a risk and maidened my siren .. (charlie pointed out an issue with plastic clevises .. i now have metal ones) .. i took a chance as my siren has been in build for months and i actually had it on the slope with the wind in the right direction .. i didnt want to go home till i had flown and landed her ..
Thanks to lloyd for fighting the siren on the edge of the fenceline to get her airborne ..' all or nothing 'and she was off into wind .. tad nose hvy but kept her up for a few mins and kept her in one piece on landing .. i am real happy now shes trimmed and ready to go again
I had a enjoyably flight with my old carrera which stood up to the wind prety well
Thanks for the chuck loyd & charlie..
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: EricF on February 14, 2019, 07:09:23 AM
AN ANNIVERSARY OF NOTE

Today is the tenth anniversary of the day that Simon, aka 'swarrans', solo'd . . . . . and thereby hangs a tale.

Just over 10 years ago Si came up to my desk at the company where we both worked and said that he had heard that I flew radio controlled aircraft and would I teach him to fly. I replied that I hadn't been flying much recently but that I would be very pleased to do so. I asked him if he had a model and he said no, but that he wanted something aerobatic that would roll, (note this for later), something Spitfire-like. I replied that to learn it would be best to start with a powered glider type of aircraft, maybe a Multiplex EasyStar. Simon nodded, not very convincingly, and said that he'd let me know when he had something ready to fly.

A few days later Si invited me round to his house to inspect his 'training aircraft' and I found that he had purchased a tiny electric Cessna Skylane type model and of course it had ailerons and no dihedral - it's gotta roll! It was a very windy day, but we went to a nearby field to try it out. It was one of the smallest r/c models that I had ever flown and after a very short while I deemed it too twitchy to learn to fly with. However, I had another thought and suggested that we visit the Thurnham slope where Simon tried it out and inevitably also found it too twitchy and uncontrollable. It was then he got the message that it would be best to learn to fly on something a bit more stable, rolls would have to come later. So after a number of sessions on the slope and flat field with his EasyStar, the big day finally came - the 14th February 2009 was the day that Simon went solo, ten years ago to this day.

It was only a week or so ago that I found the video of the third of Si's solo flights on the 14th February which prompted me to retell the story of his successful entry into r/c aircraft modelling. From then on there was nothing stopping him building and flying bigger and better gliders and sailplanes, from his 'lardy CMPro Discus', which we all thought was enormous at the time, to his latest lovely 6 metre Purbeck Models 'DG 800'.

Just think, if Si hadn't taken up our pastime/hobby/sport, we wouldn't have had the benefit of of seeing and enjoying the many gliders and sailplanes (all of which would roll, even if they weren't designed to!!), that he has created over the past 10 years - the slopes would have been a lot less interesting and and not such a fun place to be without him.

Many thanks Si for all the enjoyment you have given us over the past ten years . . . . . and for getting me back into slope soaring big-time.

Now readers, if you have a few hours to spare, take a bit of time to enjoy some of Simon's memorable moments from the past 10 years, mainly courtesy of Paul, aka 'Goodwind Soaring', and a few from me  . . . .  and don't forget to view the videos to the end, as Paul often tags on the out-takes.

Enjoy,

Eric


Simon's memorable moments in chronological order.

Simon's Solo Day 14/9/2009 - https://vimeo.com/3247012 (https://vimeo.com/3247012)

Slope soaring f20 tiger shark - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZeVHLLd5js (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZeVHLLd5js)

The whole sad saga of the previous video - https://vimeo.com/8411598 (https://vimeo.com/8411598)

Slope soaring F20 Tiger Shark, take 2 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJzXI0EwL2s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJzXI0EwL2s)

Slope side carnage featuring the Tiger Shark again - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UT-Q2PZdc0U (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UT-Q2PZdc0U)

Slope soaring Lear Jet - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6ji8MribrM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6ji8MribrM)

Simon's Lear Jet at Firle Beacon with Paparazzi at work! - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUv9Lf2VZyI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUv9Lf2VZyI)

Re-maidening of the Lear Jet at Firle Beacon - Take One - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3pxpYK8pEA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3pxpYK8pEA)

Re-maidening of the Lear Jet at Firle Beacon - Take Two - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObA02b7y_nY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObA02b7y_nY)

Si, Paul and Eric practicing hand towing in the rain - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2NYdB6u5OA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2NYdB6u5OA)

Simon's Big ASW 20 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FX2wh_LtdM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FX2wh_LtdM)

Simonís Big Day Out - First Flight of the FOX - https://vimeo.com/13054104 (https://vimeo.com/13054104)

Slope soaring the 5 metre Fox, parts 1 to 6 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luo1MlfDvNM&t (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luo1MlfDvNM&t)

Simon's Big Fox at Firle Beacon 16-10-2010 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xa_Brlu8MHA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xa_Brlu8MHA)

Si and Paul cutting foam wings - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sd0c7Y1XqE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sd0c7Y1XqE)

Composites hot box - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDmlOC5GGX4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDmlOC5GGX4)

Si vacuum bagging - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywPe3eqBofE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywPe3eqBofE)

7 metre ASG 29 maiden flight - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQn9odEEIAI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQn9odEEIAI)

Slope soaring speed gun runs - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb5Xternud8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb5Xternud8)

Slope soaring the ASG 29 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ia8JfGpja3M (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ia8JfGpja3M)

Simon and Eric Slope Soaring their Foxes - (Eric's maiden) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2uEMNWFf8A&t (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2uEMNWFf8A&t)

Purbeck scale slope soaring get together - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrU0cAMOH6I&t (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrU0cAMOH6I&t)

Si and Paul sea wall combat soaring - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sD73ZJkqQFM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sD73ZJkqQFM)

Si's long launching trot for Eric's ASH26 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfs-toSr1Iw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfs-toSr1Iw)

Maiden flight of Si's Purbeck DG 800, his latest creation - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8z9bh9NQ_Ss (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8z9bh9NQ_Ss)







Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: paul w on February 14, 2019, 07:30:46 AM
Well done chaps..... here's to the next ten years!!  :uk:
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: GP on February 14, 2019, 11:09:41 AM
Thanks for the vids Eric, some good laughs there! My god, many PSS jets are turkeys aren't they? That poxy Tigershark and Learjet! I was also trying to fly jet-looking gliders around that time, and there's nothing more disheartening than spending ages building a model and then realising it flies like a syphilitic turkey with bricks strapped to its wings. Good entertainment for the onlookers though! Here's a couple of shots of the hero in action:

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On another subject, wow Jiggz, you were brave to maiden in those winds, well done!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Jiggz on February 14, 2019, 14:17:39 PM
Congrats on ten years swarrens ..and thanks eric for the backstory .. when i first started flying with the help of my late grandfather i wanted something airobatic and went against advice and got a p51 .. (out of the first 5 flight there was 5 rebuilds ..

Cheers GP .. the maiden went fairly smooth considering the wind ..i did land quite far back as my landing ark back around the slope was wide and i was blown back ..

Wrotham.. Dan and I took a trip to wrotham yesterday to find alan stalking the slope with his big mouldie and a rucksack .. we spent a few hours in which time i slope maidened my 2m T.tail albatross .. it felt very smooth and solid and will return to the hill on the next outing ..

Highlight of the trip was Dans molded Discus maiden
He set it up at the hill and he went for it .. the wind had dropped slightly and with a good push into wind the discus was off smoothly .. i flew.my alby alongside for a bit and the 2 looked great sweeping along the slope. dan had it up for about 25mins 10-15 trying to land her .. after about 12 overshoots he managed to get it down safely and looked pretty chuffed with himself .. feedback was elev to twitchy and ailerons to spongy ..

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: swarrans on February 15, 2019, 07:05:15 AM
Thanks Eric for those great (and some not so great!) memories.
Sounds a bit like an obituary - I'm not dying am I?!

Ah yes my doomed PSS phase - the number of hours dedicated to those re-builds all for a few seconds of flight!  On the plus side, I guess if I hadn't done those I wouldn't have attempted the scratch build ASG.

Great memories and buddies along the way, thanks all - and especially Eric for bringing them to life

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: EricF on February 15, 2019, 10:41:25 AM
Si, I'm pleased that you didn't mind me resurrecting those videos as I am sure that a lot of people won't have seen them. My favourite is the Hot Box!
Eric

PS: No you're not dying even though you've soon got a BIG birthday to celebrate!  ;D
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Jiggz on February 15, 2019, 18:59:47 PM
I encountered this on my work day today


If u put your ear against it and listen carefully u can hear a Merlin
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Jiggz on February 17, 2019, 22:12:23 PM
A great relaxing day today at Wrotham .
I planned to go for an hour and stayed for 5

Congratulation to Swarrens on his maiden and follow up flights of his 1/3 ASH26 ..
I did the best I could do with my phone footage .it's not quite up to miniphase (paul) standards

Simon''s  ash26 maiden vid
https://youtu.be/WNOTTwUqgVc

I had a good few flights with my Albatross and flight 2 and 3 with my siren ..
The sky was rather busy on my sirens second flight and I felt i wasnt able to see everyone before I got to them .. my third flight was great ..really enjoyed the model and was well worth the long slow build .

Have a good day at thurnham tomorrow chaps ..
Hope u all feel guilty flying whilst I'm sitting in traffic ..


Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: paul w on February 18, 2019, 09:35:48 AM
Nice one chaps! Sorry I couldn't make it for the maiden, but glad
to see all went well.

What's the verdict Simon? It rolls, so does that alone qualify it as a keeper?
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: swarrans on February 18, 2019, 16:19:02 PM
It's a lovely thing Paul, and as a Reinhard Schueller product a bit of model aircraft aristocracy (IMHO) so yes, it's a keeper.  I'm also hopeful that it will have its own place in my stable as it is quite a bit lighter than my DG800 and has a nice retract so I can use it for aerotowing and lighter wind days on the slope.  It still needs a little tuning I think - I want to check the horizontal dihedral and then perhaps take a bit more weight out of the nose. On the other hand, I don't want it to be super-neutral like most of my others so that it has a bit more self-correcting stability for aerotow.

Shame you couldn't be there but hopefully we'll get another chance soon.  My fence at home is coming on well but it's 50/50 if I will survive it physically!

Simon
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Jiggz on February 18, 2019, 21:28:26 PM
Hi all ..
I got the chance this evening to sort out the footage from Simon's second Ash26 flight

https://youtu.be/pwYkCkDIvPE

Now I have most of my gliders flying and my backlog of builds and maidens up to date I just have the sunbird to build and the tragi to set up.
I'm going to try and set up the tragi for my next outing .. I'm not to sure I will be flying it ..but I'm looking fwd to seeing it being flown.
Thanks also to Charlie for the build advice on Sunday . I'm going to order all the servos for the sunbird next week so I will hopefully have it flying in the next month ..
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: GP on February 23, 2019, 08:14:11 AM
Would be very pleasant at Holly Hill today. (Saturday 23 Feb).

Unfortunately I can't make it, I have to oversee my sons' birthday party.

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: EricF on February 23, 2019, 08:25:24 AM
10mph SSE, couldn't be better for Holly!
I'll be there this morning!
There will be other days,Gary!  :)
Update: 7-8 mph blow, had a couple of good billy-no-mates flights, moved to Wrotham, where the only company was 100 sheep, had a couple of flights in so-so to no-lift conditions, had lunch, snoozed the sunshine and then went come to carry on with jobs for SWSBO! ;D
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: EricF on February 23, 2019, 08:36:56 AM
It's a lovely thing Paul, and as a Reinhard Schueller product a bit of model aircraft aristocracy (IMHO) so yes, it's a keeper.
Simon

I had the chance to fly it a couple of times for a few seconds when Simon launched it, and it felt great.
Watching it fly, it's very much like my 'little' 4 metre Multiplex ASH26, which is also a keeper.
Mine is undergoing some re-furbishment at present, as it has had lots of hours in the air over the past few years, but it will be returning to the slope in the Spring.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Davetronic on April 10, 2019, 10:15:32 AM
Hi, been missing for a while, but just got my mojo back, also looking for a home for a couple of really old soaring books (free).
But there doesnt seem to be any recent posts on here, so this is basically just a test mail!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: swarrans on April 10, 2019, 21:10:54 PM
Hi Dave.  Yes things are a little slow mainly down to the fact the wind has been all over the place! (Having said that I expect today was epic on the South downs - I just wish I had been there!
Looking forward to seeing you at Thurnham if we ever get a SW wind again!

Simon
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: EricF on April 14, 2019, 11:09:46 AM
Good lift at Minster yesterday afternoon, but the wind straight off the North Sea was b-cold.

There was one paraglider there who had just landed as the wind strength was getting too strong.
While chatting with him, it turns out that they have problems with paramotor glider fliers making things difficult for them PR-wise at coastal sites, just as we have problems with the activities of a small minority of drone and FPV flyers who either don't know the rules or deliberately choose to ignore them.

In case you missed it, here's the link to the BBC1 Panorama programme on the Gatwick Christmas Drone Attacks - https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m0003vwg/panorama-the-gatwick-drone-attack (https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m0003vwg/panorama-the-gatwick-drone-attack)
The comments made by the drone racer pilots weren't too helpful but those made by the professional drone operators were worth listening to.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: EricF on April 20, 2019, 22:20:52 PM
Excellent session at the BoPeep Lane site on the South Downs today.

Simon, Paul (+Judith), Mark, Mick (+Mrs Mick), Lloyd and me from Invicta MF, along with fliers from Sussex, Surrey, Hertfordshire and Essex had a great day in perfect conditions.

There were in excess of 15 pilots and nearly double that number of models. Everyone appreciated the warm, sunny conditions and there was plenty of catching up done with flying buddies not seen for quite a few months.

There were only two crashes during this busy day and a couple of no-damage incidents which will most probably be related later on by the pilots involved.

If you weren't there you missed a cracking session, both flying and socialising.

PS - As we arrived in the morning Lloyd informed us that there had been an infestation of ticks in the pits area and he advised us to tuck our trouser bottoms into our socks to prevent them climbing up our legs into our nether regions!  ;D
This was OK for most of us as we didn't mind looking a bit odd, but Simon was wearing shorts so he was having to constantly check his legs for ticks throughout the day.
I did see him disappear into the gorse bushes a couple of times, so maybe he was checking his nether regions as well.   ;) ;D

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: EricF on April 26, 2019, 19:44:09 PM
A cracking session was had by all at Thurnham this afternoon.
Si, Sir Bob, Eric P and Mick reported epic lift from the streets of clouds coming from the south west in the 20mph winds,

Having some jobs to do at home, I didn't arrive until the aforementioned were leaving but Si and Sir Bob acccompanied me over to the slope face so that I didn't have a Billy-No-Mates session with my 37 year old Phase 6 Pro. :af

For those that may not be aware, the Pro Phase 6 has a fully symmetrical wing section meaning that it flys just as well inverted as upright and is great for outside manouvres. The Sportsman version with its semi-symmetrical wing section stays up better in lighter conditions, but isn't as versatile on the aerobatic front.

Unfortunately the layby had a lot of McDonald's litter scattered about, but luckily I had some disposable gloves with me and I managed to fill a carrier bag with the night-time visitors rubbish and the layby looks much tidier now!

Maybe it's naive of me, but I think that if an area is kept tidy and litter-free, then maybe, just maybe, people may think twice about thoughtlessly discarding litter. One can live in hope!  :)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: swarrans on April 26, 2019, 21:23:11 PM
It may have been the best lift I've ever experienced at Thurnham?  Anyway it was a fabulous session with like minded souls.
On a slightly down note, if you haven't seen it already, please respond to the CAA's invite to comment on their proposal to charge us AT LEAST £16.50 a year to register ourselves as "Drone" pilots - see the BMFA website for links etc.  The bit that worries me most is that charge is based on their assumption of spreading the cost over 170,000 pilots and based on the BMFA's membership of 30K and the unlikelihood of the thousands of drone pilots registering the actual cost to law abiding citizens like ourselves could be way more.  I might be over reacting but I think if we comment in large numbers it might help...

Si
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Jiggz on April 28, 2019, 12:51:26 PM
First up "Thank you Eric for cleaning the layby "
My door pockets in my van are full of crisp packs and bottles where I refuse to throw stuff out the window ..I can't believe it sometimes even driving up the motorway and some random driver winds there window down and ejects bags of mc Donald's out the window .. about 15 years ago I took a strawberry milkshake to the face on my motorbike as some careless moron threw it out .. instantly had to lift my visor to see ..

As for the new charges I have noticed xjet has made a video about it ..I still need to watch ..
I will be also giving my thoughts

On a brighter note
Dan and I ..had a nice day on our field testing his new phoenix v2 last sat.. had the pleasure of lots of birds of prey circling .. if anyone knows what the birds are pls chime in ..Im not sure if there red kites or buzzards

Enjoy
https://youtu.be/ARa2Xn9x4wE
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: paul w on April 29, 2019, 08:45:30 AM
Definitely buzzards Jeff.... red kites have a longer, forked tail and a higher aspect ratio.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Jiggz on May 01, 2019, 23:18:34 PM
Hey guys please take a look at this link and sign the bmfa Petition..the petition is to exempt existing bmfa members from the preposed new charge ..
I have signed and donated
https://www.change.org/p/caa-bmfa-members-to-be-exempt-from-the-charge-proposal-for-uk-drone-registration-scheme?cs_tk=&utm_campaign=3321e12d522d4815acbe2ce117981b9d&utm_medium=email&utm_source=petition_signer_confirmation&utm_term=cs (https://www.change.org/p/caa-bmfa-members-to-be-exempt-from-the-charge-proposal-for-uk-drone-registration-scheme?cs_tk=&utm_campaign=3321e12d522d4815acbe2ce117981b9d&utm_medium=email&utm_source=petition_signer_confirmation&utm_term=cs)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: GP on May 04, 2019, 10:56:31 AM
What a perfect day for going to Firle. (Saturday 4 May). I'm booked up unfortunately but I hope some of the guys make it there!

(Here's one of Si's planes at Firle many moons ago)

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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: paul w on May 04, 2019, 15:45:14 PM
Working today, but May the 4th be with you!

Not too long until the annual 'longest day' bash, fingers crossed for good weather  :xx
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: EricF on May 06, 2019, 22:04:47 PM
Working today, but May the 4th be with you!
Very clever Paul, I like it! :)
Not too long until the annual 'longest day' bash, fingers crossed for good weather  :xx
Please don't wish the Spring away too quickly Paul, we haven't had any evening light wind soaring sessions yet!
Before we know it, the evenings will start drawing in again. :'(


Event Report

Simon and I made the trip 'up North', to the BMFA National Model Flying Centre at Buckminster in Lincolnshire yesterday for the first Aerotow meeting of the season.

After an early start we made it just in time for the pilots briefing shortly after 10:00am. Neither of us had planned to fly, Simon had sold his K6 and needed to deliver it to the very happy puchaser, one of the Ghost Squadron Team and I was there to catch up with fliers that we hadn't seen since last Autumn. In the process and as we were further north than normal, we were able to put real faces to names that we had seen on the Scale Soaring UK forum pages, but hadn't previously had the opportunity to meet.

Our local lad Simon Thornton was also there flying his DG600 and here's the link to the photos that he took on the day, which as you know wasn't the warmest of Sundays.
https://scalesoaring.co.uk/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=2432&start=10#p22868

There was an excellent turnout and luckily only a couple of crashes.

If anyone is interested in attending an aerotow meeting, either as a flier or spectator, the next one is in two weeks time at Middle Wallop Airfield in Hampshire. Contact us for further info.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Jiggz on May 08, 2019, 17:59:06 PM
I wouldn't mind attending the aero tow meet ..

I just aquired my first Fox ..it's not massive.
2.3m but I'm very impressed with it ..she deff needs a scale'ish cockpit ..

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: EricF on May 08, 2019, 19:55:23 PM
Hi Jeff, Looks like a nice example of German engineering you have there.

Regarding the next aerotow meeting which will be on the weekend of 18/19 May at the Army Aircorps Airfield, Middle Wallop in Hampshire, here is the link to the posting on Scale Soaring UK site concerning access arrangements to the airfield.
https://scalesoaring.co.uk/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=2603&p=22887#p22887

Unfortunately the Government's Defence Infrastructure Organisation who manage the airfield have increased the airfield access charges, so there will be a  £10 to attend as a spectator payable to the Ghost Squadron team on the airfield. If you are going to fly it costs £10 to have as many aerotows by the Ghost Squadron's fleet of tugs as you can fit in during the day. The tugs will operate all day from 10am to 7pm on Saturday and 5pm on Sunday.

If you want to attend an aerotow meeting at which it is free to spectate, the North London RFC hold their annual Aerotow Meeting at their immaculate close-mown private field just outside Baldock in Hertfordshire on Sunday 4th August, but there will be a charge if you wish to be aerotowed, again by the Ghost Squadron Team.
Here's the link to the event: https://scalesoaring.co.uk/event/baldock-glider-day/

The site is lady-friendly as it does have hot food and drinks . . . . and flushing toilets on site.  :) ;)

Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: GP on May 09, 2019, 20:29:38 PM
Middle Wallop is great, you should go, Jeff. It's a long drive though.

I might go to the Baldock one on 4 Aug, I haven't been there before.

Tomorrow (Friday) is looking good for Thurnham, anyone tempted?   (I'll have to check the weather forecast in the morning to be sure, it might change.)
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: swarrans on May 09, 2019, 21:10:23 PM
I will go to Thurnham tomorrow if the rain holds off...
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: EricF on May 09, 2019, 21:22:35 PM
So will I.  :af
I have to have my annual blood test first thing, so it will most probably a late morning arrival for me.
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: GP on May 10, 2019, 19:07:50 PM
Some phone snaps from today

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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: ofej on May 13, 2019, 21:07:59 PM
June 21st is a Friday. I can probably get the day off (I am having a bit of time off this summer) and it will mark a year since I flew last.

Here's hoping for a 14mph South-Westerly!

Jef
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: paul w on May 14, 2019, 08:07:52 AM
June 21st is a Friday. I can probably get the day off (I am having a bit of time off this summer) and it will mark a year since I flew last.

Here's hoping for a 14mph South-Westerly!

Jef

Sounds like a plan Jef. There's tentative talk of organising a BBQ.... watch this space!
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: GP on May 14, 2019, 18:12:03 PM
Took this old bird out for a fly today. Was driving past Wolstonbury Hill near Brighton, so decided to have a quick session with the Erwin. The first mouldie I ever built, a bit battered now but still flies great.

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Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Jiggz on May 14, 2019, 22:29:46 PM
Hey chaps .. I have had a couple of field flights with me new Fox .. excellent flying model ..I need to stiffen the wings ..
This was flight 2 at Dan and My private field
https://youtu.be/58V8vXAb7AQ
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: Jiggz on May 23, 2019, 17:48:34 PM
Lidl chucky's back in stock ..
Title: Re: The South East Flyers Thread Part 3
Post by: EricF on May 23, 2019, 22:42:36 PM
Warm (at last) session at Thurnham this afternoon and evening with a selection of Mouldies, Scalies and Woodies present. :)
Forecast is not so good for the next couple of days, however Sunday and Monday are looking promising.  :xx